Story of The Year Article

[Frank Giaramita]

Story Of The Year (www.storyoftheyear.net) admit their debut album was lame (http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1509332/20050912/story_of_the_year.jhtml?headlines=t rue).

Submitted by: invincibleXL

[we are cured]

haha he rips feldmann..

[DroppedUrPocket]

My name is DroppedUrPocket and I approve this message.

[FinchFan11]

i must say, i'm excited about the new cd.

[Mitch]

Reading this really makes me want to hear the new album, plus I do enjoy the 2 new songs they posted on their Myspace or wherever.

[sundaysetsashes]

i dont think all feldman's records sound the same

[clintdaddy]

Atleast he admits to basically being the labels bitch. They got their money, now they get to do what they want. Good for them.

[thecovertcareer]

I'm impressed he was able to speak so honestly. I admire it alot. I tihnk this band will do even better if they did what they wanted to do.

[CLARIFY THIS]

"The last album, we had a lot of songs about dying," Marsala said. "It was a recurring theme, but not on purpose. Drowning, stabbing — dying. There's not a whole lot of that on this record"

Sounds interesting Dan, let's take a look at the track listing then.

"Taste the Poison"

"March of the Dead"

" 'Is This My Fate?' He Asked Them"

"A Silent Murder"

Ah!

(I am actually quite looking forward to this)

[SLADE775]

They should just admit that the new one is lame too. Save themselves the trouble.

[Frank Giaramita]

i dont think all feldman's records sound the same

I do.

[Mitch]

Has the new one leaked yet? I'm at school so I can't check. Oh, and if it hasn't, have you heard it Frank?

[smelltheglove]

i dont think all feldman's records sound the same
you must not pay much attention to production qualities...feldman uses the exact same snare sound, effects, compression, everything for everything he does. listen to mest s/t, either used record and the SOTY debut and you'll notice a striking similarity in the sound of all 3.

i think his style is shit. he uses way too many effects on vocals and adding fucking bells and chimes and orchestral arrangements and it ruins songs. For example, listen to the mest song 'burning bridges'...it had the potential to be one of their coolest songs but feldman adds this totally retarded orchestra part to the first chorus that just sounds so out of place in the song.

he does similar trickery for the used and soty, both bands probably would have a lot more respect if they didn't work w/ a guy who shines every recording he does into a pop song...rumors are the used are fed up w/ him after making their last album (which is actually pretty good and could have been very good w/ a different producer).

[SLADE775]

Has the new one leaked yet? I'm at school so I can't check. Oh, and if it hasn't, have you heard it Frank?

It's not good. So calm down.

[They]

their new shit is lame...and if they think their last shit sucked then cant wait to hear the whole new album :shake:

[smelltheglove]

oh yea, feldman does that same orchestra shit on the soty song 'sidewalks' and a handful of used songs

[sweetfootaction]

I agree that Feldman does suck. I mean he has written for Hilary duff. What else do you expect?

[GAD_guy]

i dont think all feldman's records sound the same
are you fucking deaf?

finally a band comes out and admits what i have been saying for quite a while now. maybe bands will stop going to him and letting him take something that was once good and turn it into utter shit. i cannot think of a single record producer i dislike more than john feldmann. even the guy who ruined straylight run's debut is better.
you do have to kind of wonder why, knowing he was changing their sound for the worse, they didn't just fire him to begin with. and the answer is simple, they needed him behind them to keep the record deal at mavrick and get launched into stardom. they were willing to do whatever it took, even if it meant allowing some hack to tamper with their art. it seems kind of backhanded to diss the guy now that they are famous enough to not have to worry about being dropped. but that's just how shit is in the music industry. the word "integrity" ceases to exist as soon as you walk in the doors of any major label.

[clintdaddy]

are you fucking deaf?

finally a band comes out and admits what i have been saying for quite a while now. maybe bands will stop going to him and letting him take something that was once good and turn it into utter shit. i cannot think of a single record producer i dislike more than john feldmann. even the guy who ruined straylight run's debut is better.
you do have to kind of wonder why, knowing he was changing their sound for the worse, they didn't just fire him to begin with. and the answer is simple, they needed him behind them to keep the record deal at mavrick and get launched into stardom. they were willing to do whatever it took, even if it meant allowing some hack to tamper with their art. it seems kind of backhanded to diss the guy now that they are famous enough to not have to worry about being dropped. but that's just how shit is in the music industry. the word "integrity" ceases to exist as soon as you walk in the doors of any major label.
:thumbsup:

[They]

are you fucking deaf?

finally a band comes out and admits what i have been saying for quite a while now. maybe bands will stop going to him and letting him take something that was once good and turn it into utter shit. i cannot think of a single record producer i dislike more than john feldmann. even the guy who ruined straylight run's debut is better.
you do have to kind of wonder why, knowing he was changing their sound for the worse, they didn't just fire him to begin with. and the answer is simple, they needed him behind them to keep the record deal at mavrick and get launched into stardom. they were willing to do whatever it took, even if it meant allowing some hack to tamper with their art. it seems kind of backhanded to diss the guy now that they are famous enough to not have to worry about being dropped. but that's just how shit is in the music industry. the word "integrity" ceases to exist as soon as you walk in the doors of any major label.
AMEN.

[Talib Scottie]

The song "Stereo" has a really poppy / catchy chorus and a killer breakdown at the end. I didn't think the song would have been too far out of place on Page Avenue, but the song was sick. Ah well, I enjoyed the first disc.

[marbury1414]

their sound isn't too much terribly different from the new songs i've heard, but i have to admit...i find it catchy, haha

[Spicoli hey bud]

If they know it
and I know it
how come millions of people don't?

[invincibleXL]

I can't wait for this album. I actually don't mind John's production too much, but I agree he over-produces everything. Anyways, has this leaked...??

[SLADE775]

I can't wait for this album. I actually don't mind John's production too much, but I agree he over-produces everything. Anyways, has this leaked...??

okay there teeny-bopper. You gonna head over hawt topic next!! ;) OMG!

If they know it
and I know it
how come millions of people don't?

hahaha yes.

[I.O]

iagree

[onlyinmovies]

Feldman isn't a bad producer. If you want to look at over produced look at half the victory CD's that have come out in the past 6 months. These are major label bands, no indie bands. the shit is supposed to sound produced. The only thing i have agains feldman is the new Used cd is auto tuned to ungodly levels.

[splitsecond]

I hope people arent buying this. I am sure that they are saying this shit now to try and gain cred since everyone and their mom talk shit about them. However, he is right about Feldmann.

[HoboAdam]

explain to me how the songs on their myspace page are different from any of those singles they had

[loserkid0003]

im glad story of the year agrees with everyone else.....

[tommyhaych]

They're just saying that to bulk up the upcoming record. If they would've said that to someone besides MTV, I would've believed they meant it.

And whats this about blaming their producer for the old album being shit? Thats like me blaming my mother for me being an asshole.

Fucking idiots.

[xxnotetoselfxx]

First of all whether or not SOTY is happy with the way Feldman produced their cd, they should have so much admiration and respect for a guy who literally got them their break! Feldman took them from nothing, got them signed, took them on tour when they were called BIG BLUE MONKEY, and produced their cd that is now pretty close to platinum. And it seems this guy dosen't even fucking appreciate what that guy did for him!


yea maybe feldman's sound is overproduced, but don't deny the fact that he has alot of fucking talent and creativity in his producing that has spawned countless hits.

But I'm not really here to defend Feldman's production. It just really pisses me off when i read about these asshole rockstars who so quickly forget their roots (like finch's trashing of drive thru) and just completely forget that they wouldn't be where they are with out those people. Respect and loyalty go along way, and i have completely lost any respect for SOTY and will not purchase this new album.

[SLADE775]

explain to me how the songs on their myspace page are different from any of those singles they had
they're honestly worse.

[knifewound]

First of all whether or not SOTY is happy with the way Feldman produced their cd, they should have so much admiration and respect for a guy who literally got them their break! Feldman took them from nothing, got them signed, took them on tour when they were called BIG BLUE MONKEY, and produced their cd that is now pretty close to platinum. And it seems this guy dosen't even fucking appreciate what that guy did for him!


yea maybe feldman's sound is overproduced, but don't deny the fact that he has alot of fucking talent and creativity in his producing that has spawned countless hits.

But I'm not really here to defend Feldman's production. It just really pisses me off when i read about these asshole rockstars who so quickly forget their roots (like finch's trashing of drive thru) and just completely forget that they wouldn't be where they are with out those people. Respect and loyalty go along way, and i have completely lost any respect for SOTY and will not purchase this new album.
Hahaha I have a funny feeling you wont be the only one who doesnt purchase their new album, I however wont buy it because I just plain out dont think they're good.

[CalebAndrew]

This is kind of like the Federal Government releasing sensitive information after years of conspiracy theory. Next they will admit that Feldman wrote their songs like everyone says lol.

[xearlynovemberx]

They're just saying that to bulk up the upcoming record. If they would've said that to someone besides MTV, I would've believed they meant it.

And whats this about blaming their producer for the old album being shit? Thats like me blaming my mother for me being an asshole.

Fucking idiots.
hgahahahahhahaha tht was a good:thumbsup:

[duffe]

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[DroppedUrPocket]

I approve this.

And I approve thee, duffester.

[avitabully]

i had to listen to the songs on myspace so i could see if there was any difference. then i got embarrassed because i realized my roommate could hear my music in the other room and had to open the nightmare of you album stream so i didnt look like a mindless tool who listens to garbage

[Johnny_G]

i had to listen to the songs on myspace so i could see if there was any difference. then i got embarrassed because i realized my roommate could hear my music in the other room and had to open the nightmare of you album stream so i didnt look like a mindless tool who listens to garbage
god forbid you lose your cred... nice job on the switch man!

[knifewound]

they're honestly worse.
I agree with most of your posts, but when I read this I didnt think it could be true...I asked myself how is it possible that these could actually be worse? So I took a listen and you are in fact correct again...these songs are horrible. It looks like if they want to sell alot of records they should have considered being Feldmans bitches again.

[albatross]

he does similar trickery for the used and soty, both bands probably would have a lot more respect if they didn't work w/ a guy who shines every recording he does into a pop song...rumors are the used are fed up w/ him after making their last album (which is actually pretty good and could have been very good w/ a different producer).

Mark my words. SOTY's new album will not sell more than their last. You can bitch about mixes all you want, but songs sell. Its an unwritten law in the industry that if a producer breaks you, you owe him your next album... they obviously dont know that. Everyone knows Feldmans got the coke mix, but he makes sure every song is a potential hit. When a band stops listening to producers, especially a producer that made them, you can count on career suicide. If this new album goes gold, I'll be shocked.

[lameXcore]

Well gosh I could've told you that. It's like saying, "Hey we sound the same as everyone else."

[Nate_RAWKS]

They should just admit that the new one is lame too. Save themselves the trouble.


HAHA!!!

This news thread made me laugh.

Quality.....

[Adeniz19]

i thought they said they were going more hardcore... those new songs on their myspace suck

[plainoldbrent]

i'd like to say i'm excited for the new cd, but any of the new stuff from them has been boring.

[duffe]

And I approve thee, duffester.
I approve that you approve this.

[Throwback]

Finally someone blames Feldmann. Don't get me wrong, Goldfinger was a decent/sometimes awesome ska band, but he really is only out to make the records he produces mass-marketable.

[DroppedUrPocket]

I approve that you approve this.

Haha you are a clever one!

[A picasso blue]

i'm sorry but how can someone blame the way their music sounds on a producer? for christ's sake you guys wrote the songs! or did they..

[xxnotetoselfxx]

Finally someone blames Feldmann. Don't get me wrong, Goldfinger was a decent/sometimes awesome ska band, but he really is only out to make the records he produces mass-marketable.

he produced major label albums, thats exactly what he is supposed to do, and he does a damn good job

[joelmole]

this album makes me question what i ever saw in them. this new shits terrible.

[TheRunAround]

I can't wait for this album. I actually don't mind John's production too much, but I agree he over-produces everything. Anyways, has this leaked...??
he definitely does overproduce

but id be lying if i said i didnt LOVE his style
feldmann records drums with the best of them...his recordings have pop and drive to them...they have this natural energy
plus any word of dissing feldmann should be stopped by the used's latest cd...AMAZING

[Seans9]

I agree that Feldman does suck. I mean he has written for Hilary duff. What else do you expect?

so your saying that feldman sucks because he writes for hilary duff? if im not mistaken...that usually means your good at what you do...you know...writting songs for a super star.

the man has talent. a lot of it. look at what he did for the used. to say that he sucks would just be ignorant.

[ThisIsSoBrandNw]

I dont know, I think its stupid to call something you did for three years lame. And the new shit isnt a TON different/better

[thedeucemoose]

i thought they said they were going more hardcore... those new songs on their myspace suck
That's two out of 13 songs. And another one that isn't on their myspace anymore is pretty heavy, but I hear there's going to be heavier.

[duffe]

Haha you are a clever one!
Yes I am :)

[ProjectMayhem33]

I just gained more respect for SOTY, new album should be good

[thedeucemoose]

They put a new song on their myspace today called Is this my fate he asked them. It kicks the shit out of anything on Page Avenue.

[HollywoodAbalze]

i still like feldmen, and soty and everyone on here, spread love not hate.... ok i suckat life

[Gleebo]

i still like feldmen, and soty and everyone on here, spread love not hate.... ok i suckat life
Agreed on all accounts. I haven't been overly impressed with what I have heard so far from the new album but I did like "Page Avenue" and could care less what anyone thinks of me for doing so...it was my 7 bucks and my ears that listened to my copy.

[punkerx99]

How is Sick Of It All a positive band?

[JacksColdSweat]

all i have to say is "until the day i die, i spill my heart for you"

[March_Faster!!]

They admit the album was lame? I could've told you that shit. I don't hear they pissin' and moanin' about the money they made off of it though. They suck, the new songs super sucks and I can't wait for album 3 when he says "Yeah, the 2nd album just wasn't us. It had no feeling."

[invincibleXL]

okay there teeny-bopper. You gonna head over hawt topic next!! ;) OMG!

dude, get a life

[ishotthepilot]

oh well. i've never heard their first album, and not really planning on listening to this one... however, they are pretty awesome live and i'll go see them and be happily clueless to the lyrics he's singing :)

[Sam Kaufman]

theyre blaming feldman for their old sound
lol i find that kinda hard to believe considering theese guys were a rap rock band before they were screamo

[JHallow]

oh well. i've never heard their first album, and not really planning on listening to this one... however, they are pretty awesome live and i'll go see them and be happily clueless to the lyrics he's singing :)
Are they good live? Ive never seen them so i cant comment, but in the article it did state that they didnt sound the best live. although from what i have seen on tv and what people have said they are pretty Choreographed.

[two_days_slow]

Are they good live? Ive never seen them so i cant comment, but in the article it did state that they didnt sound the best live. although from what i have seen on tv and what people have said they are pretty Choreographed.
They are an absolute blast live. One of the best shows to watch live. Check out the new song "'Is This My Fate?' He Asked Them" on their myspace account, it seriously shreds off babies faces as they said it would.

[JHallow]

They are an absolute blast live. One of the best shows to watch live. Check out the new song "'Is This My Fate?' He Asked Them" on their myspace account, it seriously shreds off babies faces as they said it would.
I wish i could check out, see what everyone is talking about, im at work and myspace is on the list of banned websites. so i cant get to it. ill defintly do it when i get home

[fsasatticus]

it was fair, like the contrasts in each song

[omegaX]

you must not pay much attention to production qualities...feldman uses the exact same snare sound, effects, compression, everything for everything he does. listen to mest s/t, either used record and the SOTY debut and you'll notice a striking similarity in the sound of all 3.

i think his style is shit. he uses way too many effects on vocals and adding fucking bells and chimes and orchestral arrangements and it ruins songs. For example, listen to the mest song 'burning bridges'...it had the potential to be one of their coolest songs but feldman adds this totally retarded orchestra part to the first chorus that just sounds so out of place in the song.

he does similar trickery for the used and soty, both bands probably would have a lot more respect if they didn't work w/ a guy who shines every recording he does into a pop song...rumors are the used are fed up w/ him after making their last album (which is actually pretty good and could have been very good w/ a different producer).

Well said. Personally, he seems like a dick, but even producing-wise everything he touches turns to shit.

The used should be fed up with him. He killed that album, the best part about the s/t was its raw sound.

[notetoxself]

I am just hoping this cd is an improvement from the last one since Page Avenue was okay but not great

[GAD_guy]

the best part about the s/t was its raw sound.

HA!

[oldwirehands]

I liked their EP or demo before Page Ave. came out. I don't think Feldman produced that EP. "Until The Day I Die" 's song arrangement was much better the first time around.

This band can go places. They're cool guys. I met them a few times. Although, I do admit the last time I saw them, they seemed to have a rockstar attitude. Bummer. Phil can play guitar.

[thesewalls]

It's not good. So calm down.
what are you talking about? apparently you haven't heard it, jackass.

[LifeIsDudes]

I liked the last record, but I feel this new one really will make it feel sort of lame.

[omegaX]

HA!

Do you disagree, or just not like the band?

Because it did have a rawer sound than anything else that was popular then. I really dont think there's any denying that.

[GAD_guy]

Do you disagree, or just not like the band?

Because it did have a rawer sound than anything else that was popular then. I really dont think there's any denying that.

the production on that record was crystal clear and poppy as hell. finch, glassjaw, senses fail, taking back sunday, and thursday are all bands tfrom aroud the same time that would be classified in the same genre and whose albums were way less produced than the used's self-titled. even when it was first released, i was wondering how somebody could justify taking a band like that and over-producing them so blatentently. feldmann seems to think everything is capable of being pop music. even a song like "a box full of sharp objects."

[llwin]

posting just to say i also think all feldman's records sound pretty much the same.. lol

[NationalProduct]

I do.

i second that one frank