Fantasy Baseball 2009

[xbrokendownx]

Yahoo leagues are open so i figured id start this up

Justin sent out the invites for his keeper

[startBBtoday]

if there's a pay league or free league, i'm in

dougkyed@gmail.com

[J.C.]

Gonna check out their rankings in a bit.

[kshtoinks12]

I want in any league. About time I got involved and showed you fools what's what.

[CubbyNick42]

I did four leagues last year, and that was too many. Hopefully I can keep it to three.

[xbrokendownx]

i was in seven last year i believe haha

[livethesounds]

holy fuck that's a lot. no way i'd be able to manage that many.

i can barely keep track of two (which i've done for every sport the past couple years).

[StandMyBrothers]

someone get the essential free league started...

[livethesounds]

i'm already in the two leagues i'm going to be in. Justin's keeper and one with my friends. i don't think i could do more than that.

[pand75]

I'll join absolutely every league for any amount. I'm fed up of winning every year with my friends. If there's room anywhere, I'd like to join, including keeper leagues and all.

[StandMyBrothers]

man which starting pitchers do I keep out of Edison Volquez, Clayton Kershaw, Max Scherzer, Scott Kazmir, and Francisco Liriano.

[pand75]

I'd go Kershaw, but I'm sure someone would say otherwise with their stats and such.

[aloneatlastnj]

i assume scott or someone will start up the leagues, but in any case - would you guys be opposed to jetstolehome matt being involved?

and as i PMed scott a few weeks ago - i'm down for free and pay leagues as usual.

[StandMyBrothers]

I'd go Kershaw, but I'm sure someone would say otherwise with their stats and such.
well in that league, Pujols, Braun, and Rollins are my 3 set in stone keepers. On the fence about keeping Nick Markakis or opting for two pitchers.

[J.C.]

I'm up for a free league if there's an open spot.

[RyanFTW]

I'd join a free league: ftwryan@gmail.com

[ForlrnPerplxity]

I'll do a pay league again, as long as another douchebag doesn't handle the money.

[aloneatlastnj]

I'll do a pay league again, as long as another douchebag doesn't handle the money.

lol....

[xbrokendownx]

im up for any league, free or pay pretty much

[Vanilla Bear]

i'm up for a free league.

[pand75]

What type of scoring do you guys usually do?

[Scott Weber]

i was in seven last year i believe haha
yeah I was in 8. heh.

i'm down for all leagues except head to head categories. I'll do roto leagues or points. I'll run a pay league again if you guys can decide on the format - CBS Sportsline was fun but a little flawed, I would do it again because it was a fun format but it's not my first choice.

[Clarett'sGreyGoose]

I'll do an AP league if there is one. Usually I suck at fantasy baseball, but I'll do it anyways.

[xbrokendownx]

id be down for that pay league on CBS...but whatever everyone wants

only thing is i dont really like weekly lineups, but i think we said thats the only option there is?

[J.C.]

Never liked weekly lineups. Way too easy to lose interest.

[CubbyNick42]

well in that league, Pujols, Braun, and Rollins are my 3 set in stone keepers. On the fence about keeping Nick Markakis or opting for two pitchers.
Markakis is a monster, and pitching is much easier to find in FA than hitting.

[xbrokendownx]

im thinking my keepers for that league will be Holliday, B. Phillips, Chipper, Johan, and Cliff Lee

[Scott Weber]

id be down for that pay league on CBS...but whatever everyone wants

only thing is i dont really like weekly lineups, but i think we said thats the only option there is?
yeah, they don't do it any other way and I can't find another fair way to do weekly lineups.

what needs to be fixed on CBS is they need to cap the amount of starts you can have in a week.

[Scott Weber]

god damn my keeper team was so fucking good. I don't know who to keep. Can we do trades with our keepers?

[Chris M.]

god damn my keeper team was so fucking good. I don't know who to keep. Can we do trades with our keepers?

We did in football so I assume so.

I'm down for any league this year. I can run the free or AL/NL this year if we decide to go that route.

[Scott Weber]

I kind of liked the AL/NL leagues being a midseason/2nd half thing personally. I'm not as stoked on them if I have to do them from the beginning.

[Chris M.]

I think we need to set up a better scoring system though...the one I used for the AL league was wacky and the NL one made it extremely easy to rack up points depending on how many pitchers you had.

[xbrokendownx]

yea weber cheated in those leagues!

[Scott Weber]

Um...yes, I read the rules and make the best scoring team possible out of it! Not my fault nobody else paid attention to the rules and and scoring!

[StandMyBrothers]

so somebody create the official yahoo FREE league

[Scott Weber]

so somebody create the official yahoo FREE league
how about we wait until this thread gets some more visibility and we decide on rules?

[kshtoinks12]

I'd be down for trying an auction league.

[ForlrnPerplxity]

I'm up for doing another pay league for CBS. I really thought that style was fun, despite some of the flaws.

[aloneatlastnj]

I'm up for doing another pay league for CBS. I really thought that style was fun, despite some of the flaws.

i really didn't have a problem with it, minus only being able to set your rosters up for a week rather than day to day. that reallyyyyyy fucked me up (as did trading away bj upton and jose reyes....) hahaha

[Scott Weber]

I'd be down for trying an auction league.
Yeah, I've always wanted to do that as well.

[ForlrnPerplxity]

i really didn't have a problem with it, minus only being able to set your rosters up for a week rather than day to day. that reallyyyyyy fucked me up (as did trading away bj upton and jose reyes....) hahaha
haha, there were def. some bad trades last year. Who was it who sent Weber the Markakis and Santana for Todd Jones and Ichiro deal or whatever it was?

[aloneatlastnj]

haha, there were def. some bad trades last year. Who was it who sent Weber the Markakis and Santana for Todd Jones and Ichiro deal or whatever it was?

hahahha i have no idea. i still can't believe i gave up reyes - that league was definitely a learning experience lol

[livethesounds]

god damn my keeper team was so fucking good. I don't know who to keep. Can we do trades with our keepers?

who do you have, my keepers outside of berkman and webb are pretty weak. I think i finished pretty low last year, so doesn't that mean i get a high pick this year?

[Scott Weber]

who do you have, my keepers outside of berkman and webb are pretty weak. I think i finished pretty low last year, so doesn't that mean i get a high pick this year?
kinsler, morneau, mccann, milton bradley, hanley, aramis ramirez, lincecum, burnett, CC Sabathia, Verlander, Ricky Nolasco.

[CubbyNick42]

Wow. How many can you keep?

[livethesounds]

kinsler, morneau, mccann, milton bradley, hanley, aramis ramirez, lincecum, burnett, CC Sabathia, Verlander, Ricky Nolasco.

shit. well i'm pretty sure we can only keep 5 at the most. maybe less, i forget.
If you're interested in Micheal Young, Joe Nathan, Berkman, Webb or Ryan Dempters (which are my 5 keepers) let me know. I'm getting tired of looking at them.

[Scott Weber]

i think we're keeping 5. i'm interested in brandon webb and berkman. maybe a bat and an arm for webb?

[pand75]

I set up a public draft today for 9 AM and it's still not loaded. This is the first problem I've seen with Yahoo Sports.

[kshtoinks12]

I'm going to start a free auction league on ESPN, let's get 12 AP'ers, who's down? PM me your email.

EDIT: and I'm pretty sure this league is going to use Quality Starts over wins.

[Scott Weber]

I'm going to start a free auction league on ESPN, let's get 12 AP'ers, who's down? PM me your email.

EDIT: and I'm pretty sure this league is going to use Quality Starts over wins.
i'm in. scottweber@gmail.com.

[pand75]

pand75@hotmail.com

Count me in

[kshtoinks12]

avengedTBS Jason is in too, we need 8 more. Any takers?

[Scott Weber]

weekly head to head categories? nevermind, i'm out.

[kshtoinks12]

What did you want to do? All of the rules are negotiable.

EDIT: Nevermind, it won't let me change that. What's wrong with head to head categories?

[Scott Weber]

What did you want to do? All of the rules are negotiable.

EDIT: Nevermind, it won't let me change that. What's wrong with head to head categories?
There's so much luck involved. Just hate the format. Only like points or roto.

[kshtoinks12]

I'd be down for points, I've never tried it before and I'm curious. I'll remake the league.

I'm going to need help assigning point totals for everything though. Should I just use what ESPN uses and change the value for a win to 0 and use that value for QS?

[kshtoinks12]

Made, Any feedback on the settings would help, and I guess it doesn't let me choose how much auction money we start with.

[Scott Weber]

I'd be down for points, I've never tried it before and I'm curious. I'll remake the league.

I'm going to need help assigning point totals for everything though. Should I just use what ESPN uses and change the value for a win to 0 and use that value for QS?
Pitchers would probably be too valuable then. You'd want to make QS something like 5-7 points instead. Look up the ratio of SP wins to SP QS and then reduce the win point value according to the ratio.

[Scott Weber]

I'm gonna look a little more into this, but ESPN may be better than CBS sportsline for our H2H points pay league.

[pand75]

Well I got the invites. Let me know which one to join.

[aloneatlastnj]

once we get the free league and the pay league rules straightened out let me know. i assume you'll be handling the money this time, scott?

[Scott Weber]

once we get the free league and the pay league rules straightened out let me know. i assume you'll be handling the money this time, scott?
yeah. haha.

[aloneatlastnj]

yeah. haha.

hahaha. it only makes sense -- a lot more accountability on your part if shit goes wrong.

[IcedOpethBlind]

if anyone has a free league spot open hit me up

about a 7 year fantasy baseball vet...

howardbg86@yahoo.com

[kshtoinks12]

Well I got the invites. Let me know which one to join.
The newer one.

[kshtoinks12]

if anyone has a free league spot open hit me up

about a 7 year fantasy baseball vet...

howardbg86@yahoo.com
Down for a free auction league?

[IcedOpethBlind]

sure, ESPN?

[pand75]

The newer one.
K I'm in.

[kshtoinks12]

Sent. Where's Floyd, I know he wants in on this.

[IcedOpethBlind]

in.

[GiggsOho]

I'll be in one, but only if there is interest from one that isn't hardcore. I'm a fantasy baseball n00b and am looking to get into it for real this year. I have done it in years past only to lose interest by June. Not going to pull that weak shit this year, if I'm in, Im in till the end of the September.

PM me if anything pops up out there.

[J.C.]

vbphenomenon@hotmail.com - for once things shake out with the free league

[pand75]

http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r263/pand75/Picture1-7.png

I did a draft today to get a feel for all the sleepers and such. This is my team in a public 12-team league. I'm pretty happy with it. Brad Penny is also on my team, but i wasn't able to get it all in the screen shot.

[StandMyBrothers]

nice no catcher points for 1-2 months.

[Scott Weber]

nice no catcher points for 1-2 months.
Matt Weiters + somebody like Kenji Johjima for a month will likely be worth an entire season of somebody like Geovany Soto.

[pand75]

I was going to get Kelly Shoppach in a late round, but some guy took him. Like Scott said, I'll get like Chris Snyder or Ramon Hernandez or Jarrod Salt. or Yadier as a short term replacement.

[Chris M.]

I really don't see the point in even having a draft this early when pitchers and catchers only started reporting two days ago

[IcedOpethBlind]

http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r263/pand75/Picture1-7.png

I did a draft today to get a feel for all the sleepers and such. This is my team in a public 12-team league. I'm pretty happy with it. Brad Penny is also on my team, but i wasn't able to get it all in the screen shot.

ditto...

http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/6540/51343061tr1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/51343061tr1.jpg/1/w1280.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img253/51343061tr1.jpg/1/)

[Flags of Dawn]

if anyone needs someone (with minimal knowledge, but an interest in learning) for a league that doesnt require real money, let me know.

[kshtoinks12]

We could use your services Dan, head to head points league auction style.

[Scott Weber]

i'm gonna pass on your league kshtoinks, considering there will be a official free Yahoo league and a pay league, and I'm already in the keeper league and a league with my friends. if possible I like to restrict my leagues to Yahoo.

[kshtoinks12]

fair enough. Personally, between CBS, ESPN, and Yahoo, I think ESPN is by far the best and Yahoo is by far the worst. I can't deal without live stats.

[Chris M.]

It's not like it costs a fortune or anything to get Yahoo's stat tracker

Live stats are really only necessary in fantasy football

[kshtoinks12]

Yeah, but I would never buy something for a free league.

And besides that ESPN is much better with the news, a better draft screen, and I love beat the streak. Not to mention I'm always on ESPN anyways, so its just more convenient.

[Scott Weber]

it's 10 dollars and since their stattracker is about 10,000 times better than ESPN and CBS, it's not a big deal to pay 10 bucks for live scoring for 4 leagues.

and yahoo has updated their draft rooms, far better than espn now.

[Flags of Dawn]

We could use your services Dan, head to head points league auction style.
im down.

[kshtoinks12]

it's 10 dollars and since their stattracker is about 10,000 times better than ESPN and CBS, it's not a big deal to pay 10 bucks for live scoring for 4 leagues.

and yahoo has updated their draft rooms, far better than espn now.
Well, if you're doing a pay league on Yahoo, it makes sense, but I can't see myself paying for anything in a pay league, unless it was actually competitive.

[kshtoinks12]

im down.
email?

[Flags of Dawn]

dschwalbach at gmail

[Scott Weber]

Well, if you're doing a pay league on Yahoo, it makes sense, but I can't see myself paying for anything in a pay league, unless it was actually competitive.
Haha how cheap are you? It's $10! I'd pay $10 for a better stattracker anyways even if I wasn't playing fantasy.

[kshtoinks12]

Don't have a job while enrolled at Syracuse University cheap. That 10$ is a meal + leftovers, hahaha.

[CubbyNick42]

I wish I'd gone to Syracuse. Their broadcast program is amazing.

[kshtoinks12]

Sometimes I wish I didn't. I'm gonna have a lot of loans for a very very large portion of my life.

[SgtSmegma]

I would like in if there are spots available.

[AshesAshes]

If you guys do a pay league and need someone ill jump in

[xbrokendownx]

have we decided on who will be the commish of the free league? i think LWO was last year but im not sure we can count on that again since he hasnt been back

[Scott Weber]

I'll do it, that's fine. I can start it today or tomorrow.

[aloneatlastnj]

i assumed scott would be the commissioner for both the free and pay leagues. from the responses in this thread, the free league looks to be quite deep..could get interesting.

also - have we decided where we're going to host the pay league?

[Scott Weber]

i assumed scott would be the commissioner for both the free and pay leagues. from the responses in this thread, the free league looks to be quite deep..could get interesting.

also - have we decided where we're going to host the pay league?
I think we should just go with CBS again if you guys want to do head to head again. It was flawed, but we all know it now and know how it works.

[aloneatlastnj]

I think we should just go with CBS again if you guys want to do head to head again. It was flawed, but we all know it now and know how it works.

yeah i think CBS should be the way to go. 20 dollar buy in like last year? or should we gauge interest first?

[Scott Weber]

yeah that's fine.

[xbrokendownx]

CBS is fine w me..i just wish they didnt only have weekly lineups

im good for $20

[Scott Weber]

weekly lineups are fine, they just need to max the amount of pitcher starts.

[pand75]

Never done CBS before, but I'm good for it.

[kshtoinks12]

I would like in if there are spots available.
email?

[ForlrnPerplxity]

Don't you all think people who were in the CBS Pay League last year should get first dibs?

[SgtSmegma]

email?

PM'd it to you. Thanks

[xbrokendownx]

Don't you all think people who were in the CBS Pay League last year should get first dibs?




definitely, at least the ones who paid attention to it all year

[Scott Weber]

I agree. There will only be a few open spots.

[SgtSmegma]

Sometimes I wish I didn't. I'm gonna have a lot of loans for a very very large portion of my life.

I was looking at the league settings and I noticed that K's are negative points for pitchers. Is that an error, or am I just an idiot?

[heyxnightmarex]

I'm down for a pay league, but I will do the free one too if you need people. my email is nymfan12@yahoo.com

[aloneatlastnj]

so how are we going to decide who and who doesn't get in the leagues?

[CloseToShore]

man which starting pitchers do I keep out of Edison Volquez, Clayton Kershaw, Max Scherzer, Scott Kazmir, and Francisco Liriano.

I'd go with Volquez.

On a side note, it's between Evan Longoria and Lance Berkman for a keeper. I'm picking 8th (whoever will be my keeper), and will get the 13th pick as well. Some of the guys in my league only pick guys from their favorite teams, so I MIGHT be able to get the other guy at #13.

I'm open for a league also - keeper or not, but no pay leagues. - r.croskey13@gmail.com

[kshtoinks12]

I was looking at the league settings and I noticed that K's are negative points for pitchers. Is that an error, or am I just an idiot?

You're misreading that. Its negative points for a batter.

[Scott Weber]

so how are we going to decide who and who doesn't get in the leagues?
pay league will be first dibs to whoever was in last year. I can create that today or tomorrow. I'll create free as well once we decide on a format.

[xbrokendownx]

yea from what ive seen i think everyone that was in the pay league last year is back for this year (minus the thief of course)

[Scott Weber]

What format do you guys like for the free league? CBS h2h like pay? Yahoo total points? Yahoo roto? I'd really rather not do weekly categories h2h.

[xbrokendownx]

i vote for yahoo roto

[J.C.]

Definitely Yahoo. Format doesn't matter as much to me.

[aloneatlastnj]

5x5 rotiserrie style with AVG, HR, RBI, R, SB, ERA, WHIP, W, K, and SV. 12 teams. 14 hitters, 9 pitchers (2 SP and 2 RP required), 3 bench spots, 2 DL spots?

[Chris M.]

Roto but it doesn't matter much to me

[Scott Weber]

I'm leaning towards Roto for sure. I might use OPS as a category.

[Scott Weber]

Invites for the free league sent out. If you didn't get one, it's because I gave priority to those who played in the league last year and then those who are most active in the forum. In 3-4 days if the league isn't full I will send out first come first serve invites to fill it up. 12 teams, roto - standard categories except OPS instead of batting average.

[xbrokendownx]

in.

team name = Yuri Sucart

[aloneatlastnj]

team name = BALCOholics

[SgtSmegma]

You're misreading that. Its negative points for a batter.

Oh, okay cool.

[kshtoinks12]

I'm in as kshtoinks12 for now, but I will be using a different moniker in no time.

[StandMyBrothers]

Redhawks, as always

[pand75]

PandSox. Unoriginal, but that's how I am

Is there any room for the pay league?

[Scott Weber]

i'm gonna create a seperate pay league thread. this one is cluttered.

[CubbyNick42]

Doing my keeper draft now. I missed this.

[pand75]

Some guy in my public league just offered me this:

Soriano, Beltran, Jose Lopez and McLouth for Aviles, Youkilis, Hamilton and Bradley.

No idea how to start looking at this.

[CubbyNick42]

Oof. What a dumbass.

[pand75]

I'm leaning towards yes because of Bradley's injuries but it's too big of an offer to be completely okay with accepting it

[pand75]

Just pulled the trigger on it.

[pand75]

The league vetoed the trade. I don't understand why they get involved, especially before the season starts. Fuck.

[Scott Weber]

I hate league votes.

[pand75]

It's stupid. If the guy was dumb enough to offer me that, why shouldn't I have the right to take advantage?

[nateisawesome]

any leagues still open?

If so I am in

[Scott Weber]

First come first serve to fill out the rest of the free league (it's been 3/4 days since I sent out the original 12 invites)

League ID#: 116319 League Name: AP Official Free League Password: baseball

[heyxnightmarex]

First come first serve to fill out the rest of the free league (it's been 3/4 days since I sent out the original 12 invites)

League ID#: 116319 League Name: AP Official Free League Password: baseball

Im in, as Fernando Tatis.

[pand75]

And you are?

[xbrokendownx]

scott make the pay league!

[Scott Weber]

alright just keep reminding me. been busy.

[nateisawesome]

First come first serve to fill out the rest of the free league (it's been 3/4 days since I sent out the original 12 invites)

League ID#: 116319 League Name: AP Official Free League Password: baseball

I'm in

[pand75]

Should I accept this?

I give Josh Hamilton and Milton Bradley for Beltran and McLouth

For my OF, I still have Quentin, Victorino, David Murphy and Rick Ankiel.

[CubbyNick42]

No. Hamilton's the best player in the deal. If you want to move him, get deeper somewhere else instead of continuing to stockpile OFs.

[pand75]

Exactly what I was thinking, just I doubt myself. Thanks Nick.

[aloneatlastnj]

a friend showed this site to me last night --

https://www.leaguesafe.com/home.aspx

kind of a paypal for fantasy leagues. the guys over at rotoauthority use it. i'm sure we can trust scott since he has a ton more accountability and responsibility regarding this stuff, but it was just something i wanted to throw out there.

[xbrokendownx]

scott- pay league.

[Scott Weber]

blahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[live.]

Had my first draft of the year last night for a league with guys from school that I've never played with before. It's a free league so I decided on taking a bunch of young risks:

C- Russell Martin
1B- Chris Davis
2B- Howie Kendrick
3B- Miguel Cabrera
SS- Stephen Drew
IF- Troy Tulowitzki
OF- Carlos Quentin
OF- Carlos Lee
OF- Matt Kemp
OF- Jay Bruce
Util- Chipper Jones
Bench: Andre Ethier, Nelson Cruz, Alex Gordon, Pablo Sandoval, Milton Bradley, Adam LaRoche, Adam Lind

Starters: Webb, Peavy, Liriano, Wainwright, Josh Johnson
Relievers: Joakim Soria, Capps, Wheeler, Reyes, Frank Francisco.

[CubbyNick42]

Ethier should start over Bruce, at least at the start.

[CubbyNick42]

Exactly what I was thinking, just I doubt myself. Thanks Nick.
No problem, man.

[live.]

Ethier should start over Bruce, at least at the start.

Yeah I was thinking the same thing. I really have no idea what I'm gonna get out of Bruce but he was available pretty late.

[Chris M.]

Had my first fantasy draft of the year today. 12 team H2H which means I'm really not going to care about it that much. I'll still keep track of it though.

C - Matt Wieters
1B - Carlos Pena
2B - Ian Kinsler
3B - Evan Longoria
SS - Troy Tulowitzki
OF - Jason Bay
OF - Jay Bruce
OF - Brad Hawpe
Util - Conor Jackson
BN - Denard Span
BN - Jarrod Saltalamacchia
BN - Elijah Dukes
BN - Ian Stewart

SP - Roy Halladay
SP - Dan Haren
RP - Matt Lindstrom
RP - Brandon Morrow
P - Edinson Volquez
P - Zack Greinke
P - Johnny Cueto
BN - Jair Jurrjens
BN - Wandy Rodriguez
BN - Chris Perez

Satisfied with the team I put together. Only guy I missed out on that I really really wanted was Nick Markakis because of the value I thought I could have gotten from the pick and round I would have got him at...but I missed him by one pick.

[IcedOpethBlind]

need opinions on if i should make this offer:

Granderson, Abreu for Manny

guy has Manny, needs SB help..

my current lineup:

C Iannetta
1B Fielder
2B Aviles
3B Davis
SS H. Ramirez
OF Granderson
OF Abreu
OF Damon
UTIL Ortiz

BENCH K. Johnson, Span, Thome, Snider

thoughts?

[CubbyNick42]

Johnson should start over Aviles.

[IcedOpethBlind]

lol, i took Johnson before Aviles initially but im abit worried after reading news of him hitting in the 6th spot.

thoughts on the trade offer?

[SilenceBrokenTT]

If there's any other leagues open I'm down...

[SgtSmegma]

What do you guys think about some sleepers/breakout players for this upcoming season?

[Chris M.]

Elijah Dukes

[Scott Weber]

i never share my sleepers because I'm playing against most people here. heh.

[pand75]

same haha

[IcedOpethBlind]

What do you guys think about some sleepers/breakout players for this upcoming season?

Denard Span
Travis Snider
Shin-Soo Choo
Jeremy Hermida
Pablo Sandoval

a few that come to mind...not deep sleepers by any means though.

[SgtSmegma]

i never share my sleepers because I'm playing against most people here. heh.

Yeah, I didn't think about that. Good point.

Elijah Dukes

I think he's got boundless potential, I'm just not sure he can put it all together.

Denard Span
Travis Snider
Shin-Soo Choo
Jeremy Hermida
Pablo Sandoval

a few that come to mind...not deep sleepers by any means though.

Definitely agreed on Shin-Soo Choo, he was nasty in the second half of last season. Who is Pablo Sandoval?

[bigmike]

Yeah, I didn't think about that. Good point.



I think he's got boundless potential, I'm just not sure he can put it all together.



Definitely agreed on Shin-Soo Choo, he was nasty in the second half of last season. Who is Pablo Sandoval?
Dukes hit .291/.415/.550 from June 12th onward -- spanning 51 games and 229 PA's in 2008.

[SgtSmegma]

Dukes hit .291/.415/.550 from June 12th onward -- spanning 51 games and 229 PA's in 2008.

That's decent. Nothing mindblowing. Certainly if he could do that for an entire season, he'd be worth a late pick but I'm just not sure he could.

[bigmike]

That's decent. Nothing mindblowing. Certainly if he could do that for an entire season, he'd be worth a late pick but I'm just not sure he could.
That's a .965 OPS (he also had 12 homers and 36 RBI's in that time frame, as well, just pointing it out since it's a fantasy thread and I'm not a fantasy player).

Players last year with at least 250 plate appearances and a .965 OPS is exactly 8 (http://www.baseball-reference.com/pi/shareit/wzdr):

Pujols, Chipper, Manny, Milton Bradley, Lance Berkman, Ryan Ludwick, Carlos Quentin and A-Rod.

I don't think Dukes will OPS that over the course of a full season, however, I'm comfortable in saying he'll out perform his .864 OPS from last year and post something in the .885-.900 range.

[SgtSmegma]

That's a .965 OPS (he also had 12 homers and 36 RBI's in that time frame, as well, just pointing it out since it's a fantasy thread and I'm not a fantasy player).

Players last year with at least 250 plate appearances and a .965 OPS is exactly 8 (http://www.baseball-reference.com/pi/shareit/wzdr):

Pujols, Chipper, Manny, Milton Bradley, Lance Berkman, Ryan Ludwick, Carlos Quentin and A-Rod.

I don't think Dukes will OPS that over the course of a full season, however, I'm comfortable in saying he'll out perform his .864 OPS from last year and post something in the .885-.900 range.

That website appears to be a valuable tool

[SeanEBoy2686]

What do you guys think about some sleepers/breakout players for this upcoming season?

Shin Soo Choo, Clint Barmes, Elijah Dukes (if he's healthy), & Ricky Nolasco


But I think the real key is just being able to stay a little bit ahead of the curve when it comes to free agency. Aside from the first few draft picks, early season free agency is often what makes or breaks a team. I won my league last year and I only had one pitcher that I had originally drafted (of 10). DeRosa, Dempster, Volquez, McLouth, and Lidge were all found through free agency. Obvoiusly if the league is deep this is much harder to do... same with being involved with some keeper leagues.

[Clarett'sGreyGoose]

so apparently i cant read. anyway....

H2H, 12 teams. I don't know what slot I drafted in, but here's what I ended up with

C - Matt Wieters
1B - James Loney, Paul Konerko
2B - Robinson Cano, Kaz Matsui
3B - Carlos Guillen (1b/3b), Aubrey Huff (1b/3b)
SS - Rafael Furcal
OF - Josh Hamilton, BJ Upton, Vlad Guerrero, Nick Markakis, Jeremy Hermida
Util - Cameron Maybin

SP - Jake Peavy, Chad Billingsley, Justin Verlander, Josh Johnson, Adam Wainwright
RP - Chad Qualls, Matt Lindstrom

As far as I can tell I need to deal from my OF to get some saves. Anyone else want to point out weaknesses?

[xbrokendownx]

isnt Wieters not going to start the year in the bigs? youll probably need another catcher, at least for a few weeks

[SilenceBrokenTT]

Got two teams... this is the better of the two (I think...)

C - AJ Pierzynski (CWS)
1B - Adam Dunn (WAS)
2B - Howie Kendrick (LAA)
3B - Melvin Mora (BAL)
SS - Jose Reyes (NYM)
OF - Vlad Guerrero (LAA)
OF - Ryan Ludwick (STL)
OF - Torii Hunter (LAA)

SP's
Dan Haren (ARI)
Cliff Lee (CLE)
Joe Saunders (LAA)
Gavin FLoyd (CWS)
Aaron Cook (COL)
Jamie Moyer (PHI)

RP's
Kevin Gregg (ChC)
Matt Lindstrom (FLA)
Jose Arredondo (LAA)

Bench
1B, 3B - Jorge Cantu (FLA)
2B, 3B, SS - Marco Scutaro (TOR)
1B, 3B - Casey Blake (LAD)
OF - Randy Winn (SF)
OF - Juan Rivera (LAA)
OF - Kendry Morales (LAA)
OF - Gary Matthews Jr. (LAA)
Util - Jim Thome
SP - Armando Galarraga (DET)
SP - Kelvim Escobar (LAA)
SP - Jon Garland (ARI)
RP - Brandon Lyon (DET)

[Clarett'sGreyGoose]

isnt Wieters not going to start the year in the bigs? youll probably need another catcher, at least for a few weeks
this is what i get for missing my draft. fuckin work.

[nateisawesome]

someone offered me Beckett, Beltran, and Derek Lee for Yovani Gallardo, Teixeira, and Carlos Lee. Should I take it?

[Scott Weber]

someone offered me Beckett, Beltran, and Derek Lee for Yovani Gallardo, Teixeira, and Carlos Lee. Should I take it?
i wouldn't.

[CubbyNick42]

Me neither.

[blebbio]

I've never done fantasy baseball before but would like to try it. Any tips?

[xbrokendownx]

christ, youre almost young enough to be weber's son

[startBBtoday]

I've never done fantasy baseball before but would like to try it. Any tips?

this year, draft OF early, catcher late, pitching late, don't draft any of the top closers, do what you can to get a top SS.

[mht]

can anyone give me some tips/maybe if there is a weak spot give me some names of sleepers in the FA pool (hopefully). I am really awful at fantasy baseball so:

C-Russell Martin
1B-Carlos Pena
2B-Kazuo Matsui
3B-David Wright
SS-JJ Hardy
OF-Carlos Quentin
OF-Ichiro Suzuki
OF-Jacoby Ellsbury
Util-Andre Ethier
BN-Adam Jones
BN-Clint Barnes

SP-Cliff Lee
SP-Daisuke Matsuzaka
RP-Jose Arredondo
RP-Takashi Saito
P-Scott Kazmir
P-Zack Greinke
P-Andy Sonnanstine
BN-Brandon Morrow
BN-Kyle Lohse
BN-Hideki Okajima

[J.C.]

How many teams in your league?

Relying on Kaz at 2nd would worry me the most. He doesn't stay healthy and his most useful asset is probably steals, which you've already got pretty well covered with the rest of your team. If guys with more upside like Mike Fontenot or Ian Stewart aren't available in FA, I'd see if I could swing a trade with someone who's got an extra mid-tier 2B.

[xbrokendownx]

some dude just offered me Danks for Moyer in one of my random leagues im in...its a DEEP league, but am i crazy thinking its a steal for me?

[CubbyNick42]

Huge steal. Accept accept accept.

[pand75]

K I got trade proposal from the same idiot as a couple weeks back

I trade:
Josh Hamilton
Carlos Quentin
Kevin Youkilis

I get:
Carlos Beltran
Alfonso Soriano
Derrick Lee
Nate McLouth

This seems like too much of a steal to be true.

[Scott Weber]

your opponent must not care for steals.

[Scott Weber]

anyone else interested in doing one more league? maybe an AL or NL only league? Or a big super deep league?

[xbrokendownx]

id be down..what about an auction league?

[Scott Weber]

i want to do it on yahoo.

[Chris M.]

I'm down. I'm only in 3 leagues right now and while that may seem like a lot, I had 6 last year and kept up with all of them.

[pand75]

Yeah I'm down too. I only have 4

[Rodeo]

I would like to get in on some action. I'm not in any other leagues at all.

[CubbyNick42]

I'm already in an NL-only, but an AL-only would be cool.

[A7XBlink]

I'd be down..I haven't even drafted yet..and I'm looking for a league with people that will actually stay active

[StandMyBrothers]

I'm already in an NL-only, but an AL-only would be cool.
we agreed those were mid-year fantasy baseball leagues.

[aloneatlastnj]

i'm the commish in a yahoo league with my friends -- we're going to be doing a live draft with random order but they want to know what position they're drafting in previous to the draft itself. any way to do this?

[Scott Weber]

i'm the commish in a yahoo league with my friends -- we're going to be doing a live draft with random order but they want to know what position they're drafting in previous to the draft itself. any way to do this?
no.

[Chris M.]

I've got to work till 11 on Monday and Wednesday - the nights of the keeper and free league drafts, would you guys be willing to push the times back an hour? I'll post the same this on the keeper league main page for Justin to see.

[Scott Weber]

it's probably a stretch to have the drafts start at 11pm for east coast people.

[J.C.]

Got my first draft of the year tonight. Just hoping I don't forget.

[Chris M.]

it's probably a stretch to have the drafts start at 11pm for east coast people.

Yeah I'm just throwing it out there because I'd like to be able to make the draft, but if it's inconvenient for others I'll just try to pre-rank well and pick well in the later rounds when I get there.

Anyway, drafted this team a few hours ago in an 8 team points league.

C - Russell Martin
1B - Mark Teixeira
2B - Brandon Phillips
3B - Aramis Ramirez
SS - Hanley Ramirez
OF - Nick Markakis
OF - Matt Kemp
OF - Alex Rios
Util - Troy Tulowitzki
BN - Jacoby Ellsbury
BN - Adrian Gonzalez

SP - Dan Haren
SP - Carlos Zambrano
SP - Edinson Volquez
RP - Mariano Rivera
RP - Chad Qualls
P - Scott Downs - for holds
P - Zack Greinke
BN - Clayton Kershaw
BN - Scott Baker

I began to feel pretty confident I could win this league in Round 10 when someone drafted Ivan Rodriguez when guys like Wieters, Iannetta and Doumit were still available, and then told me he's a top five catcher in the league when I told him it was an awful pick. Someone else also told me that Raul Ibanez is a better all-around player than Jay Bruce.

[CubbyNick42]

Adrian Gonzalez on your bench, holy shit.

[Chris M.]

Yeah, this league is full of morons. In a league like this, there's no need to be drafting guys like John Smoltz or Ben Sheets hoping they'll make a contribution later in the season, yet that's what these people were doing in the later round - while I was grabbing studs like Gonzalez and Zack Greinke.

[CubbyNick42]

Adrian > Tulo for Util, by the way.

[xbrokendownx]

4 drafts in the span of the next 3 days...so pumped

[J.C.]

Just finished a 10 teamer. Had the first pick:

C - Matt Wieters, Mike Napoli
1B - Joey Votto
2B - Howie Kendrick, Mike Fontenot
3B - Alex Rodriguez, Jorge Cantu
SS - Hanley Ramirez
OF - Carlos Beltran, Nate McLouth, Jayson Werth, Milton Bradley

SP - Cole Hamels, Brandon Webb, Francisco Liriano, Josh Beckett, Chris Carpenter, Chris Volstad
RP - Carlos Marmol, BJ Ryan, Mike Gonzalez

[Scott Weber]

you couldn't pay me to take nate mclouth this year.

[IcedOpethBlind]

trade some SP for offense, yeesh

[pand75]

you couldn't pay me to take nate mclouth this year.
why? I just got him in a trade. I'd like to know what's wrong other than of course playing for the Pirates

[ForlrnPerplxity]

Where is Chris Carpenter going in drafts so far?

[J.C.]

I got him in the 18th round(181 overall).

[StandMyBrothers]

went in the 16th round in my recent draft.

[xbrokendownx]

dont forget- keeper league draft tonight everyone

[pand75]

scott, what's wrong with Nate McLouth this year?

EDIT: I read this, and they seem to think that he can maintain
http://www.fangraphs.com/fantasy/index.php/will-nate-remain-great

[kshtoinks12]

People don't have him as a legitimate 20-20 threat ever again. I know bigmike was telling me in the beginning of last year how anomalous his season was.

[livethesounds]

i think this will be the first time i'm actually available for our keeper league draft. Maybe i'll finally finish better than 6th this time.

[Scott Weber]

scott, what's wrong with Nate McLouth this year?
Flash in the pan. .781 OPS and 7 HR after the AS break. I won't touch him this year.



Reminder to all, 3 drafts the next 3 days - Keeper today, pay tomorrow, free wed.

[pand75]

Flash in the pan. .781 OPS and 7 HR after the AS break. I won't touch him this year.



Reminder to all, 3 drafts the next 3 days - Keeper today, pay tomorrow, free wed.
Did you check out the fangraphs link I posted with my edited post?

[Scott Weber]

Did you check out the fangraphs link I posted with my edited post?
Yeah, I read it. I still disagree and don't think their half-season 2007 ISO data is substantial enough, and they don't really even take into consideration the drop off in power when his ISO went away in the 2nd half. Essentially he's had 2 half hot seasons against an entire career of mediocre power - and at age 27, I'm inclined to believe the larger sample.

[pand75]

Ok, good to know. I still acquired him in a trade. I have him, Ryan Zimmerman, and Milton Bradley platooning the UTIL spot.

Should I start Ryan Zimmerman or keep Garrett Atkins starting? I think both these teams will hit better this year.

[CubbyNick42]

I like Zimmerman slightly more than Atkins, but that's damn close to a toss-up.

[pand75]

I also have Tulowitski starting for me at short, so I think that Adkins and Tulo will be a nice complement together. There's also more pressure on these 2 to produce runs without Matt Holliday gone.

[Chris M.]

You also have to figure Atkins may lose some at-bats in that crowded Colorado infield.

This is absolutely the worst week to be swamped with work. 2 drafts - both of which I may end up missing.

[pand75]

That's true.

Also weebs, what's the story with the M's closing situation? Is it Cordero, Morrow, Batista, or someone else?

[DaveFeelsRight]

i forgot i was in a league and my entire team was auto drafted, though it isnt bad:

C Bengie Molina (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/6026)
1B Prince Fielder (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/7290)
2B Alexei Ramírez (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/8169)
3B Chris Davis (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/8285)
SS Orlando Cabrera (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/5900)
OF Ryan Braun (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/8034)
OF Josh Hamilton (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/6679)
OF Carlos Quentin (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/7485)
Util Matt Kemp (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/7780)


bench:
BN Chone Figgins (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/6986)
BN Jayson Werth (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/6423)
BN Justin Upton (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/8080)
BN Rickie Weeks (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/7213)
BN Billy Butler (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/7634)


pitching:

SP Rich Harden (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/7180)
SP Justin Verlander (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/7590)
RP Joakim Soria (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/7964)
RP Carlos Mármol (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/7789)
P Scott Baker (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/7533)
P Max Scherzer (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/8193)

im iffy on my pitching. ben sheets was drafted for me but i dropped him. might drop bengie molina and rickie weeks

[xbrokendownx]

pretty beastly OF

[DaveFeelsRight]

yeah im surprised i got all 3 of them. i don't even know what position i had in the draft

[avengedtbs]

I just got back to my computer and saw one of my friend's away messages was: "working on fantasy baseball stuff." Then I remembered that I have a money league draft in 2 hours lol. Thank God I saw that.

[crit]

I went to a draft party last night, 8 out of the 12 of us got together and had some pizza and beer and sat around and drafted. It was the first time I did that, definitely the most fun draft I ever had. I wish every draft could be that like.

yeah im surprised i got all 3 of them. i don't even know what position i had in the draft
You had the 10th pick.

[avengedtbs]

I went to a draft party last night, 8 out of the 12 of us got together and had some pizza and beer and sat around and drafted. It was the first time I did that, definitely the most fun draft I ever had. I wish every draft could be that like.


You had the 10th pick.
It'd be sweet if we could somehow teleport and do that for the AP money league draft tomorrow night.

[StandMyBrothers]

I went to a draft party last night, 8 out of the 12 of us got together and had some pizza and beer and sat around and drafted. It was the first time I did that, definitely the most fun draft I ever had. I wish every draft could be that like.

like Knocked Up?

[xbrokendownx]

SMB...draft now

[xbrokendownx]

keeper league team-

C- Soto
1B- Huff
2B- B. Phillips
3B- Chipper Jones
SS- Jeter
OF- Holliday
OF- Dye
OF- Ludwick
UTIL- Loney
BN- Choo, Glaus, Garko

SP- Johan Santana
SP- Peavy
SP- Beckett
RP- Kerry Wood
RP- Huston Street
P- Frank Francisco
P- Wang
BN- Duchscherer, Guthrie, Smoltz


love my SP, like my offense, not a fan of my closers

[Dirty Ernie]

keeper league team-

C- Napoli
1B- Fielder
2B- Hudson
3B- Cabrera
SS- Furcal
OF- Sizemore
OF- Crawford
OF- Ordonez
UTIL- Ibanez
BN- Theriot, Wiggington, Cameron

SP- Halladay
SP- Dice K
SP- Gallardo
RP- Fuentes
RP- Devine
P- Brett Myers
P- Wainwright
BN- Carmona, Chris Perez, Brandon Lyon


Love my offense, pitching is eh.

[livethesounds]

Keeper team

C - R. Martin
1B - L. Berkman
2B - D. Uggla
3B - J. Cantu
SS - M. Young
OF - T. Hunter, C. Young, C. Jackson
UTL - C. Guillen
SP - B. Webb
SP - F. Liriano
SP - S. Kazmir
SP - AJ. Burnett
SP - T. Lilly
SP - J. Jurrjens
RP - B. Lidge
RP - J. Nathan

Bench - N. Swisher, H. Matsui, P. Polanco, D. Murphy, M. Scutaro

I have some weak spots, but this team's 10x better than the one i've had in the two previous seasons.

[StandMyBrothers]

Keeper League

C-Victor Martinez
1B-Albert Pujols
2B-Howie Kendrick
3B-Alex Gordon
SS-Jimmy Rollins
OF-Ryan Braun
OF-Nick Markakis
OF-Ichiro Suzuki
Util-Vernon Wells

SP-Felix Hernandez
SP-Javier Vasquez
SP-Josh Johnson
RP-Francisco Rodriguez
RP-Anthony Reyes
P-Kevin Slowey
P-Johnny Cueto

BN-Carlos Delgado, Mark Reynolds, Elvis Andrus, Chris Volstad, Ubaldo Jimenez, and Tommy Hanson!

[avengedtbs]

Just got done drafting in Slade's 10 team $25 entry league (Holds are a stat)
C - Bengie Molina
1B - Mark Teixeira
2B - Ian Kinsler
SS - Alexei Ramirez
3B - Ryan Zimmerman
OF - Carlos Quentin
OF - Nick Markakis
OF - Magglio Ordonez
Util - Vernon Wells

SP - Jake Peavy
SP - Chad Billingsley
RP - Bobby Jenks
RP - Dan Wheeler
P - Ervin Santana
P - Ricky Nolasco
P - Scott Baker
P - Matt Garza

BN - James Loney, Huston Street, Justin Duchscherer, Mike Pelfrey, Joey Devine

[Chris M.]

Keeper league team

C - Ryan Doumit
1B - Ryan Howard (K)
2B - Mike Aviles
3B - Aramis Ramirez
SS - Troy Tulowitzki
OF - Carlos Quentin (K)
OF - Carlos Lee (K)
OF - Lastings Milledge
Util - Denard Span
BN - Elijah Dukes
BN - Hank Blalock
BN - Orlando Cabrera
BN - Dallas McPherson

SP - David Price (K)
SP - Cliff Lee
SP - Clayton Kershaw
RP - Joakim Soria
RP - Chad Qualls
P - Scott Baker
P - Trevor Hoffman
BN - Gavin Floyd
BN - Kenshin Kawakami

I thought my draft went well. My offense is well rounded and while my pitching may not be the strongest, there's tons of upside in those players. I fully expect to improve upon my 10th place finish last year.

[livethesounds]

if anyone has a surplus of good OF, let me know. I think my OF is probably the weakest on my team and i have a good amount of quality starting pitching.

[livethesounds]

ok, i was just offered Derrick Lowe and Paul Maholm for Scott Kazmir. I'm leaning twoards no, but i'd just like to get some thoughts.

[crit]

like Knocked Up?
Never seen it :shrug:

[Chris M.]

I've done that with my friends for fantasy hockey, but there's only 6 of us in the league, so I don't really think it's as fun as it would be with 10 or 12. I wish more of my friends were interested in fantasy sports to get legit keeper and pay leagues going - pay leagues aren't as fun when the most you can win is 65 dollars.

[Badgers08]

Hey, anyone wanna join another league on ESPN? I've got 4 slots I need to fill (that's what she said), so send me a PM with your e-mail address if you would like to join. 10 team head-to-head league, FYI.

[bigmike]

I think this was the thread where Weebs was voicing his distaste of Nate McLouth and the Hardball Times has an article up about McLouth (http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/fantasy/article/smoke-and-mirrors-nate-mclouth/).

[livethesounds]

ok, i was just offered Derrick Lowe and Paul Maholm for Scott Kazmir. I'm leaning twoards no, but i'd just like to get some thoughts.

someone answer this


also, free league draft tonight at 10 eastern

[IcedOpethBlind]

i would not deal Kazmir for those two, though Maholm has been lights out so far in spring training..

p.s. love the avy :thumbup:

[aloneatlastnj]

also, free league draft tonight at 10 eastern

yep.


also - there was talk of getting together an auction league last night in the pay league draft. seemed like a lot of interest, maybe we can get it together?

[livethesounds]

i would not deal Kazmir for those two, though Maholm has been lights out so far in spring training..

p.s. love the avy :thumbup:

yea, that's what i'm thinking.

and thanks, when did you move to ATX?

[IcedOpethBlind]

recently...im actually in Houston atm though.