Blueskyburning
09/22/05, 08:25 AM
this is a mix i listen to at work. yes.
shai hulud - let us at last praise the colonizers of dreams
set it straight - for you. for me
the hope conspiracy - youth and it's burden
with honor - third generation
modern life is war - self preservation
avo - love is shit
casey jones - hey mildred
give up the ghost - the day music died
kid dynamite - i don't wanna hear it
kung fu rick - culture shock diagnostics
pain the town red - strike anthem
raised fist - illustrations of desperation
the legacy - running on empty
the distance - phase one of the plan suceeds
killing the dream - save our ship
gorilla biscuits - new direction
good riddance - up the affiliates
first blood - unbroken
down to nothing - the normal people
ALI.v.s.FRAZIER
09/22/05, 10:55 AM
holy shit.....you've heard of kung fu rick....
romantic rights
09/24/05, 04:06 PM
thats one crazy mix.
where do you work?
InvisibleNinjas
09/25/05, 12:03 AM
hmm, where the hell do you work? and is this on an ipod or like over a PA?
Blueskyburning
09/26/05, 04:53 AM
i work in a kitchen for a restaurant and it's so stessful, hardcore is the only thing that keeps me going, hahaha.
we have a cd player in the kitchen though so i just play it on there.
ALI.v.s.FRAZIER
09/28/05, 10:23 AM
kung fu rick in the kitchen???
hide the knives
Brandtson Chick
10/02/05, 10:27 PM
http://www.absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=89204 (http://www.absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=89204)
jason tate fired ryan mills from absolutepunk.net. mills was the ONLY decent reviewer on that site. check it out. tate posted his email as to why he fired ryan and the replies from ryan....
The Reason.
Because he took the time to not even read my email, I have to do what I didn't want to do and post my reasoning behind firing Ryan Mills.
Here is the reason I sent Ryan via email, his response, and my response back. This is obviously extremely unprofessional; however, seeing the circumstances, I see no other way.
My email:
There’s a conflict of interest between you and my vision for what I want AbsolutePunk to be, and stand for. I’m sorry, but I no longer have the faith and trust that you can deliver album reviews that are of the nature and quality that I require. I set forth rules and ideals that I thought were mutually understood, but apparently I was wrong. I enjoyed having you work for us over the past few years and thought you brought a new look on music to the website. I also was pleased to see you injecting new bands, new genres, and a new feeling on genres to our community. You’re a bright kid, and a good writer. Unfortunately, at this time, I no longer have faith and trust in you. I’m sorry. I hope you are able to find other places to write your reviews on the internet, because there are places where your kind of writing is better served. However, AbsolutePunk is obviously not that place. We’re too pop-oriented for your outlook on music and I feel in a constant battle of words where I always end up stabbed in the back. It’s either this, or I have to start moderating every single review that’s posted on the website. Seeing as that I don’t have the time to do that … and I can’t trust you at this point in time. Therefore, I must let you go.
I will leave up this email account for the next few days, so you can get whatever email or contacts you need from it. I ask in the future that you not use AP’s name when requesting CDs, and that you are honest with people about your no longer employment with AbsolutePunk.
Thanks again for everything, if you want to discuss this, or talk about it anymore, feel free to write back or IM me – please keep this out of the forums, and as are all my emails, I expect this letter to be kept in confidence.
- Jason
His response
You know Jason I'm not even going to read this e-mail. What's the point? I'm sure you filled it with some self-righteous stancing to make yourself feel justified and firing me, and that's fine. But your vision is very singular, let's not forget that: you want to make money, period. That's a good thing, I don't disagree, but I'm really surprised you have a degree in business (I believe anyways), because you go about it all wrong. Did you get money for that Thrice review? I don't really care, it's not my issue, but the way you handle things makes it seem so, and do you think that's a good thing to look like? Now look, I know you don't like me and you never have (for whatever reason it doesn't matter) because you've never shown an ounce of respect toward me, but you should really stop and try to control your emotions sometimes. I write reviews for stuff your site has never covered and probably never will now, and a lot of people liked that. That's good for business and whatnot; it's good to expand your coverage, because if the one thing you cover starts dying out, so does your site. Now you don't have to listen to me (I know you won't, it's fine), I'm not going to cry and beg for my job back. I had lots of offers to write elsewhere while I was working for AP, and I'll just go to Pitchfork or PNO, but I didn't take them because I wanted to write for AP. It's satisfying to write reviews for more obscure things and expose kids to that, and that's why I stayed. I enjoyed it. Now I'm sure you'll say something like:
"You're not
about exposing people to music and helping the scene" but come on man.
At least
don't lie to me, you owe me that much. I exposed more people to more bands than you ever have, because you just hype stuff people already know about; I review things people don't. So don't tell me I don't expose people to new bands.
That's why I worked there, because I loved doing that. But whatever. You don't like me and have wanted to fire me for a long time, trust me I know...not everyone dislikes me and I hear things.
I'll ask you once to reconsider. Don't fire me because you don't like my opinion. Believe it or not I like to write a review once and a while everyone actually reads, but I review stuff and expose people to a lot more. So reconsider. If you don't I ask you DO ONE THING if you keep me gone:
delete all
my reviews. If you keep me fired, you don't have my permission to keep and display my reviews anymore, so please delete them. I know you know whatever I write is my property and this is my choice, so please do this, and make it simple.
Peace.
Ryan
The following is a also by me, and was sent to inquiring PM's and IM's last night.
1) Because it's a long standing policy not to double-review albums.
2) Because he downloaded the leak 2 days ago, yet wrote the review as if he'd had a long time to listen to it and let it sink in (which he hasn't).
3) It's completely counter-productive to have him write a "negative" review of an album after I've already written a positive review, it undermines everything at a very obvious level. In any professional publication, you'll never see this occur. The only thing I can compare it to, is when Alternative Press writes a horrible review for a CD and then puts that artist on the cover of the magazine. It's something I laugh at every month, and absolutely hate about that magazine.
4) I've let staff know in the past that I don't want to see "negative" reviews on this website (for so many reasons it's not even worth listing here); however, I really don't want to see them (if they must be written for a "moral' reason, or whatever) before the release date of an album. We're here to help people find new bands and new music to check out and listen to ... not get on a soap-box/high-horse and tell people why they shouldn't listen to things. ESPECIALLY, after the webmaster has gushed over the CD previously.
5) He took a very obvious shot at my review with the comment about "hype" - and I take personal offense to my emotions and passion over a CD being referred to as "hype" (especially by a staff member on my website). I don't want to have to pre-screen all of the reviews that come from staff onto the website for content and to make sure they're following my view, vision, and ideals for what we stand for -- and if I have to do that, then I've lost faith in my staff, and my reviewers ... I have completely lost faith in Ryan and his ability to write the reviews he was hired to write (fyi: he wasn't hired to right Thrice and Lorene Drive reviews).
6) I felt stabbed in the back. I felt as though he goes out of his way with no other purpose than to place a knife in the back of the one who hired him to begin with.
7) I don't have time to deal with it right now. I just don't have the desire, time, energy to deal with someone who does not fit my idea of what an album reviewer on this website should be. He's not the right person for the job, and therefore, it's better for everyone's sanity (so I don't continually get pissed off over shit he does here), that he not write for us anymore. He'll have plenty of offers for other places to go .. and that's fine... but (as they all do), in time he'll learn that no one else gave him the voice and audience we did.
This is my decision, I don't ask that you like it, and I don't ask that you understand it, but please respect it.
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