How much has Coheed sold such far?

[LilRyan732]

Wondering if anybody knew?

[WakingTheMisery]

whats in a number?

[Salomonbz90]

This CD is awesome, "Welcome Home" is the best track on the album

[when 4ever ends]

i think they dont get counted till snday

[Greg]

who cares?? :lolbang:

sorry... i'll stay out of coheed threads from now on

[when 4ever ends]

im more intrested in how chroma is goinng to do.

[Alex Djaferis]

3.

[morte]

3.I was going to say 4, but whatever...

[Alex Djaferis]

I was going to say 4, but whatever...

hmm. 4 is being generous

[duffe]

5 because I ordered a copie.

[pinkerton]

5 because i didn't order a copy.

[Andy]

None, cause people only pretend to like this band.

[Saves The Night]

I dont know about your local record stores but circuit city was sold out on Tuesday, as well as Target in my area. I had to sell my arm to buy it at FYE. I'm going to guess the number are high for it.

[HolyCrapola]

I'm predicting 70k, we'll find out Wednesday.

[pinkerton]

I'm predicting 70k, we'll find out Wednesday.
i call 110. if i win, i get a special dessert.

[HolyCrapola]

i call 110. if i win, i get a special dessert.
Fall out Boy scanned 80k+ first week, and in my humble opinion Coheed And Cambria aren't nearly as large, marketable or mainstream as Fall Out Boy by any means, considering FOB was one of the most hyped records of the year in this "scene". Besides the fact, 'Welcome Home" TOTALLY flopped as a single.

[Talib Scottie]

Besides the fact, 'Welcome Home" TOTALLY flopped as a single.

All my friends who dig 80s metal loved Welcome Home and absolutely dispised Coheed before. Rumor has it this album will push anywhere from 70k-100k

[HolyCrapola]

All my friends who dig 80s metal loved Welcome Home and absolutely dispised Coheed before. Rumor has it this album will push anywhere from 70k-100k Yeah, but singles on major labels aren't meant to pull in kids who love 80 metal, they're meant to pull in the massive amount of kids who watch TRL and the 12 year old girls who could easily be suckered into buying the album and/or attending the shows. We shall see I guess.

[A picasso blue]

This CD is awesome, "Welcome Home" is the best track on the album
really? mine has to be "The Final Cut" because it's just so perfect as the ending track on the album (and believe me some albums can mess that up) and my favorite 'part' of the whole album is the end of "From Fear Through the eyes of Madness" when Claudio sings "No one runs faster than you can" over and over. makes me wanna dance




by the way..anyone else think that "Once upon your dead body" sounds way too much like a Motion City song? even the way he sings in the pre-chorus

[Talib Scottie]

Yeah, but singles on major labels aren't meant to pull in kids who love 80 metal, they're meant to pull in the massive amount of kids who watch TRL and the 12 year old girls who could easily be suckered into buying the album and/or attending the shows. We shall see I guess.

But you add that with the established fan base, the kids who loved Favor House, and the kids who will buy anything put on the 10 spot drop as they call it. The Suffering will do the rest. Maybe It would have been better as a second single, who knows, but Coheed is expanding their audience.

[Drew Beringer]

I heard that they're gonna be close to 100k and probably debuting in the top 5 on the charts.

[HolyCrapola]

But you add that with the established fan base and the kids who will buy anything put on the 10 spot drop as they call it. The suffering will do the rest. I disagree. If Fall out Boy didn't have a successful first single like they did, they wouldn't be 1/3 as big as they are, and they wouldn't be playing to mainstream crowds like they are right now. Coheed And Cambria are not a mainstream band and "Welcome Home" doesn't even have a powerful chorus. The cheap attempt that Columbia made to make that song into a single, is just that, a cheap attempt and it failed on a major label level...badly. You can't make a song into single, no matter how much shit you trim off of it. Youc an make a song into a BETTER single, but you can't turn one that wasn't one, into one. If "Welcome Home" didn't flop, Columbia would still be pushing it (just like Island pushed FOB's for 5 months), but instead, they moved onto "The Suffering", which is a much better single, but won't get a second of playing time because the video is so horrendous. This band is not mainstream and they never will be. They will never be as large as a My Chemical Romance or a Fall out Boy, strictly because every one of their singles has been missing something and always has. In my opinion, Fall Out Boy, combined with the fans who liked their previous releases and their hugely succussful first single, scanned 80k first week and maintain a steady 50k per week scan rate... I just can't imagine Coheed doing the same because both of their singles are lacking something huge...Welcome Home--A Huge Catchy Chorus, The Suffering-A Presentable Video. Unless their old fan base is bigger than Fall out Boy's old fan base was, I dcan't imagine them scanning more than 70k, but I don't have #'s on that.

[Talib Scottie]

It's not a failure until the album scans come out ;)

[HolyCrapola]

It's not a failure until the album scans come out ;)
Not true. Because we have nothing to compare it to. If I could somehow compare CoCa's upcoming scans to how big their scans WOULD BE if they had a succesful first single (and not one that was pushed for a month and given up on), then yes, we could see that it was a failure, but we don't have that luxury now do we.

[Talib Scottie]

Not true. Because we have nothing to compare it to. If I could somehow compare CoCa's upcoming scans to how big their scans WOULD BE if they had a succesful first single (and not one that was pushed for a month and given up on), then yes, we could see that it was a failure, but we don't have that luxury now do we.

The thing is though, there is not song like "Devil in Jersey City" or "Favor House Atlantic." The best songs on the album are 7 minutes long. I mean what single would you have picked? I probably would have picked Ten Speed but that's just me. Everytime I walk in best buy though Welcome Home is playing in the background. I just think calling it a failure is a little extreme.

Coheed and Fall Out Boy are not targetting the same fanbase. Fall Out Boy is marketed to teen-somethings that watch TRL everyday. Coheed's lyrical content and the maturity of their sound is more driven towards the 18-22 range. Coheed was never a pop band, regardless of how poppy AFHA was.

In you explanation you state that we have nothing to compare Welcome Home to. How can you call Sugar We're Going Down a success? We have nothing to compare it to. Maybe if they released Dance Dance first they would have pushed 125k. If Coheed pushes 85k, then something is successful. If the single were in fact a failure, Coheed wouldn't be close to 70k first week sales. Maybe it is a disappointing single, but not a failure.

[HolyCrapola]

The thing is though, there is not song like "Devil in Jersey City" or "Favor House Atlantic." The best songs on the album are 7 minutes long. I mean what single would you have picked? I probably would have picked Ten Speed but that's just me. Everytime I walk in best buy though Welcome Home is playing in the background. I just think calling it a failure is a little extreme.

Coheed and Fall Out Boy are not targetting the same fanbase. Fall Out Boy is marketed to teen-somethings that watch TRL everyday. Coheed's lyrical content and the maturity of their sound is more driven towards the 18-22 range. Coheed was never a pop band, regardless of how poppy AFHA was.

In you explanation you state that we have nothing to compare Welcome Home to. How can you call Sugar We're Going Down a success? We have nothing to compare it to. Maybe if they released Dance Dance first they would have pushed 125k. If Coheed pushes 85k, then something is successful. If the single were in fact a failure, Coheed wouldn't be close to 70k first week sales. Maybe it is a disappointing single, but not a failure. I think, in my humble opinion, becoming #1 on TRL and winning a VMA is about as successful as a single can be, in Fall out Boy's case. I think Dance, Dance can be just as succesful, but not more succesful because to be more succesful you'd have to be Coldplay or Green Day. Personally, I would've picked "The Suffering" as a first single, but I wouldn't have had the band create a video that will never see the light of day on mainstream television. Also, I understand that CoCa is marketed to an older audience, but in all honesty, there's no music channels that suit that age range at all. And even if CoCa were to scan more than Fall out Boy first week, they'd never maintain a steady 50k per week (or even close to that) for 4 months+ straight. I'm not saying CoCa's single choice was bad, given what Columbia had to work with (which wasn't much, in a major label sense) but they didn't work it as well as i thougt they would've. I'm not calling the band, or their album a failure, just calling the single a faulre because I don't think it did what it was originally intended to do... which was to stick around for more than a month. I mean, the point of a single isn't to make the old fans go, "Wow, that song is cool, I like the video too", it's to appeal to new fans and pull in new ears who have never heard of the band prior to the single's release... I just think it failed to do that.

[elemenohpe]

by the way..anyone else think that "Once upon your dead body" sounds way too much like a Motion City song?

no way does it sound like MCS.

...it actually sounds good.

[apoemtothedead]

no way does it sound like the new MCS.

...it actually sounds good.

better.

[elemenohpe]

better.

eh, i only liked 3 or 4 songs from I Am The Movie.

[Talib Scottie]

no way does it sound like MCS.

...it actually sounds good.

Awww... MCS is my shit, but yeah, I don't get the connection really either.

[MrChainsaw389]

Well, earlier this week Tate mentioned that it looked as though IV was going to sell at least 100k, if that's true, I'd say 110, if not, I'd say 60 to 70k is a realistic possibility.

[A picasso blue]

Awww... MCS is my shit, but yeah, I don't get the connection really either.i think it's the synth line. and also Claudio's vocals when he sings "Do you remember why you..." in the verse breakdown (is that even a term?)

[elemenohpe]

i think it's the synth line. and also Claudio's vocals when he sings "Do you remember why you..." in the verse breakdown (is that even a term?)

pre-chorus?

[A picasso blue]

pre-chorus?
yeah..except after that he back to another verse before the chorus.i dunno sure

[ghostyouare]

Star wars and coheed in the same year... nerds had a fantastic year.

[LilRyan732]

I was hoping it would go platinum in the long run but...
maybe you could just laugh at me for saying that.

[ghostyouare]

I was hoping it would go platinum in the long run but...
maybe you could just laugh at me for saying that.
It will definitely go Gold and depending on how well the singles do it could go platinium

[Drew Beringer]

Yeah, IKSOSE:3 went gold, so this album should pass up gold and make a serious run at platinum, especially if it does sell 100k in its first week.

[kg00d]

The live version of Welcome Home is where its at.

[Saves The Night]

I think holycrapola is just retarded and obviously is sleeping with fall out boy to referrence them that many times. Welcome Home was the best thing to happen to my college campus. MTV U played it like every hour. If you can say Welcome Home is a terrible song and argue that the album is horrible, I think there is something wrong with you. Like herpees wrong.

[sweethypocrisy]

I Unless their old fan base is bigger than Fall out Boy's old fan base was, I dcan't imagine them scanning more than 70k, but I don't have #'s on that.
in keeping secrets of silent earth 3 has sold over half a million copies.

welcome home has been on near constant rotation on fuse.

and if ten speed of gods blood and burial and wake up are released as singles, im predicting platinum by sometime next year.

[MrChainsaw389]

in keeping secrets of silent earth 3 has sold over half a million copies.

welcome home has been on near constant rotation on fuse.

and if ten speed of gods blood and burial and wake up are released as singles, im predicting platinum by sometime next year.
I think they need to wait until they've already become famous(er) to release Wake Up as a single. If they release one or two more singles that do well and then release Wake Up, they'll become international mega-superstars.

[Tony Pascarella]

Ten Speed fucking pwns me. It was actually the first song by them I'd heard that I hadn't hated. That said, I kinda enjoy the new one. It's not as much obnoxious Claudio vocals (which was why I didn't like them previously)

[LiLxb0yxbLuE]

i can't believe three evils wasn't ever a single. that song just fucking rocks my buttox

[A picasso blue]

Ten Speed fucking pwns me. It was actually the first song by them I'd heard that I hadn't hated. That said, I kinda enjoy the new one. It's not as much obnoxious Claudio vocals (which was why I didn't like them previously)are you serious?? if you think his more "out-there" vocals are sucky how could you like this? like when he sings: "Ten Speed ...if I must, then I must!!" in that song with his wicked high pitch, that's what i think you might be referring to as "obnoxious"



PS- if anyone here hasn't got a look at the novel yet...Ten Speed is kickass. it's a bike but it's like..demonic almost

[AshesAshes]

who cares?? :lolbang:

sorry... i'll stay out of coheed threads from now on
Stick to food threads.

[Fullcollapse3k]

Stick to food threads.

Brutal tonight huh? I love it.

[Saves The Night]

are you serious?? if you think his more "out-there" vocals are sucky how could you like this? like when he sings: "Ten Speed ...if I must, then I must!!" in that song with his wicked high pitch, that's what i think you might be referring to as "obnoxious"



PS- if anyone here hasn't got a look at the novel yet...Ten Speed is kickass. it's a bike but it's like..demonic almost
Once again A picasso blue proves that he is the only one making sense in this world. And as for that comic...why must he make more questions than answers!!!!?