The Trojans

[AshesAshes]

Can they be beat?

[Fullcollapse3k]

Any team can stumble at any moment. I sincerely hope they do.

[imirish06]

They're not unbeatable.


...but pretty damn close to being that

[AshesAshes]

Any team can stumble at any moment. I sincerely hope they do.
Buckeyes looked good they started the right guy tonight.

[Fullcollapse3k]

Buckeyes looked good they started the right guy tonight.

Yeah, Zwick's found his home on the bench, thankfully. Too bad Tressel didn't think to do this during the Texas game.

Fun stat: They scored 22 points against Texas. 19 came from a Troy Smith led offense, 3 from a Justin Zwick led offense. Good call putting him out there at crunch time.

[AshesAshes]

Haha no kiddin when they put Zwick in I was like bad call and sure enough he blew the game for them.

I like Troy Smith a lot probally because I like watching black qbs run all over the place.

[Drew Beringer]

Notre Dame will beat them.

[Doubleya2002]

Notre Dame will beat them.
If any team beats them this year, it will be them.

[selftitled85]

If any team beats them this year, it will be them.

i think espn summed it best. the only team that will beat usc is usc. when usc is on the offense is unstoppable with reggie bush. the defense is impressive.

they just need to not get too egotistical and they will go all the way i think.

[YearsGoneBy]

Notre Dame will beat them. yes

[still_life]

Is Reggie Bush the next Faulk/LT in the NFL? I haven't seen much of the guy play, but it seems like every time he touches the ball, he can go 70 yards. Though I hear the other RB they have will be better in the NFL, because he can run up the middle and Bush can't.

[AshesAshes]

Is Reggie Bush the next Faulk/LT in the NFL? I haven't seen much of the guy play, but it seems like every time he touches the ball, he can go 70 yards. Though I hear the other RB they have will be better in the NFL, because he can run up the middle and Bush can't.
Bush is lookin that way he had 250+ total yards yesterday.

[imirish06]

Notre Dame can hang with them in a shootout but USC can score at will on Notre Dames defense.


Their secondary is atrocious

[b e L I E v e]

lets just say i hope the niners finish last this year (if they dont go anywhere close to .500)

just so they have a chance in picking up matt L

[YourLatestVicti]

Because it would make sense to draft quaterbacks with your number one pick two years in a row.

[Scott Weber]

USC is ridiculously cocky. If they lose, it'll be because they destroy themselves, and nothing else. It's possible that the first half of the Oregon game could last for a full game once, against a better team, and they'll lose. Talent wise, there's no way they should lose.

I wonder about Reggie Bush, because he's really not a true HB. He's kind of the football version of a "tweener." I just hope he finds a position in the NFL...Remember how amazing Desmond Howard was in college football? He totally bombed in the NFL because he couldn't really do anything at the upper level besides return kicks. Bush is probably the most raw, talented player in the game (there's still a ton he could do better....which is scary) but...who knows.

[Drew Beringer]

Because it would make sense to draft quaterbacks with your number one pick two years in a row.

pwned.

[Fullcollapse3k]

Is Reggie Bush the next Faulk/LT in the NFL? I haven't seen much of the guy play, but it seems like every time he touches the ball, he can go 70 yards. Though I hear the other RB they have will be better in the NFL, because he can run up the middle and Bush can't.

From what i've seen it seems like he has that type of potential. Explosive and a great pass catcher.

[kjehrhart]

Eh .. LSU could beat them anyday. I still think "sharing" the 2003 championship was absolute bullshit.

[masebabi]

if michigan state beat notre dame, notre dame doesnt have a shot against usc...

[Scott Weber]

Eh .. LSU could beat them anyday. I still think "sharing" the 2003 championship was absolute bullshit.
haha, no way man.

[b e L I E v e]

Because it would make sense to draft quaterbacks with your number one pick two years in a row.
have you watched alex smith play?

THATS why

and hell, look at arizona...they've added more WR to their roster in the past 3-4 years than any team probably ever did

[YourLatestVicti]

have you watched alex smith play?

THATS why

and hell, look at arizona...they've added more WR to their roster in the past 3-4 years than any team probably ever did
Wide recievers are completely different than quaterback. I haven't seen Smith play but even if he's that bad you can't justify taking two quaterbacks at number one in consecutive years.

[b e L I E v e]

Wide recievers are completely different than quaterback. I haven't seen Smith play but even if he's that bad you can't justify taking two quaterbacks at number one in consecutive years.
smith proved himself sucky in preseason...and rattay isnt exactly a top of the line quarterback

i say...trade off smtih..pick someone else up

after all, we are in the rebuilding process

might as well hire me as QB...probably going to have the same record

[kjehrhart]

haha, no way man.
As soon as LSU would score on USC they would lose all sense of the game because their egos would be totally knocked down. Obviously, LSU could beat them because LSU are the ones who took the 2003 Championship. And, that was with a team that was all over the place. Theyve had time to come together and work together. They also have an advantage because not only do they get to use their old plays, they have brand new plays and special teams are kicking ass.

[Scott Weber]

As soon as LSU would score on USC they would lose all sense of the game because their egos would be totally knocked down. Obviously, LSU could beat them because LSU are the ones who took the 2003 Championship. And, that was with a team that was all over the place. Theyve had time to come together and work together. They also have an advantage because not only do they get to use their old plays, they have brand new plays and special teams are kicking ass.
Uh.

USC was down 13-0 to Oregon this week, then they rattled off 45 straight points to destroy them. So, the knocked down egos argument is retarded. P.S. - in case you weren't paying attention, LSU won the championship 3 years ago, and USC won it the past 2. The players from 3 years ago should almost all be graduated by now. Your argument doesn't make any sense, man.

[Spicoli hey bud]

I wonder what the spread's going to be this week vs. ASU
and I see no reason why I'm not going to put money down on the Over

[imirish06]

if michigan state beat notre dame, notre dame doesnt have a shot against usc...


Not if you watched the game.


Notre Dame beat themselves. Ridiculous amounts of penalties cost them.


It should've been over several times befor going to OT.


Oh btw, MSU also pretty much destroys USC in offensive production, in every aspect.

[Scott Weber]

You people are ridiculous if you think any team in America can outgun USC.

[AshesAshes]

You people are ridiculous if you think any team in America can outgun USC.
No kiddin.

Usc is putting up 59 points a game plus there defense is top 50 in the nation no one will outgun them they can put up tons of points and than have there defense shut teams out.They average 615.7 yards a game they only give up 341.7 yards a game the only way i see them losing is if they beat themselfs.

Also Michigan State will lose this week to Michigan

Not if you watched the game.


Notre Dame beat themselves. Ridiculous amounts of penalties cost them.


It should've been over several times befor going to OT.


Oh btw, MSU also pretty much destroys USC in offensive production, in every aspect.
They dont destroy them at all look at the stats the only thing I can recall that Msu is better at is they have a better qb rating barely.Usc would crush Msu.

[YourLatestVicti]

Usc is putting up 59 points a game plus there defense is top 50 in the nation no one will outgun them they can put up tons of points and than have there defense shut teams out.They average 615.7 yards a game they only give up 341.7 yards a game the only way i see them losing is if they beat themselfs.

I'm not saying that anyone can outgun USC but you have to remember they played Hawaii who was basicly just excited to be on the same field as them and Arkansas. They weren't playing great teams so the numbers are a little padded.

[AshesAshes]

I'm not saying that anyone can outgun USC but you have to remember they played Hawaii who was basicly just excited to be on the same field as them and Arkansas. They weren't playing great teams so the numbers are a little padded.
They put up 593 yards on a top 25 team they've played a few easy teams so far but who doesnt.

[kjehrhart]

Uh.

USC was down 13-0 to Oregon this week, then they rattled off 45 straight points to destroy them. So, the knocked down egos argument is retarded. P.S. - in case you weren't paying attention, LSU won the championship 3 years ago, and USC won it the past 2. The players from 3 years ago should almost all be graduated by now. Your argument doesn't make any sense, man.
Your point? Just because a football team rattles points away from someone doesnt mean shit. It means the other team was giving up because they thought they were fine, it happend to LSU tonight as a matter of fact. Im well aware when LSU won the championship, a lot of players are 5th year seniors not to mention for the championship game they played through two quarterbacks, one who happens to be the first string quarterback this year. And also, Im not a "man" .. thank you.

[AshesAshes]

Your point? Just because a football team rattles points away from someone doesnt mean shit. It means the other team was giving up because they thought they were fine, it happend to LSU tonight as a matter of fact. Im well aware when LSU won the championship, a lot of players are 5th year seniors not to mention for the championship game they played through two quarterbacks, one who happens to be the first string quarterback this year. And also, Im not a "man" .. thank you.
Oregon didnt give up they just got killed and Usc defense got a big wake the fuck up in the second half.Lsu would of got killed if they played usc in the national championship a couple years ago the secondary wouldnt of contained mike williams.

[Scott Weber]

Your point? Just because a football team rattles points away from someone doesnt mean shit. It means the other team was giving up because they thought they were fine, it happend to LSU tonight as a matter of fact. Im well aware when LSU won the championship, a lot of players are 5th year seniors not to mention for the championship game they played through two quarterbacks, one who happens to be the first string quarterback this year. And also, Im not a "man" .. thank you.
Ok. You still don't know anything about football. Oregon surely didn't "give up," I don't think any team thinks they are safe with a 13 point lead with over a full half of football to play...against the most explosive offense in football. I'm going to go ahead and make a bolder statement - if USC wins the championship this year, Leinart goes down in history as the best college football player to ever play the game.

[imirish06]

Notre Dame is going to shred USC's defense.


Write that down.

[Scott Weber]

Notre Dame is going to shred USC's defense.


Write that down.
Mmmm...no.

[imirish06]

Mmmm...no.


Tell me one good reason why they can't.

[Scott Weber]

Tell me one good reason why they can't.
Brady Quinn sucks. USC has the fastest defense in the nation. Even if Norte Dame could put up some points on the defense, there's no way they're outgunning Leinart and Bush. I'll give you TWO good reasons...it's called 2003 and 2004 national championships. it's called 27 straight games won....and this is the best squad out of any of them.

[AshesAshes]

Notre Dame is putting up 475.0 yards a game not bad but usc is putting up 615 and Notre Dame will be exposed by Usc Notre Dame isnt a bad team they just got a couple big wins against a couple teams that werent as good as they where talked up to be they barely moved the ball against Michigan if Michigan offense played to what they are capable of Notre Dame would of been blown out.This week Usc is playing Asu and sam keller Asu's qb leads the nation in total offense just watch him get killed.

[imirish06]

Brady Quinn sucks. USC has the fastest defense in the nation. Even if Norte Dame could put up some points on the defense, there's no way they're outgunning Leinart and Bush. I'll give you TWO good reasons...it's called 2003 and 2004 national championships. it's called 27 straight games won....and this is the best squad out of any of them.

Oh please, I'd expect more of an argument.

1.
Brady Quinn is putting up better numbers than Leinhart in almost every cat. this year. Facing better teams than USC has faced so far and with less talent.

Passing Yards
Quinn - 1181
Leinart - 1028
-
Rusing Yards
Quinn - 56
Leinart - 20
-
Touchdowns
Both have 10
-
INT's
Both have 2
-
QB rating
Leinart - 200.40
Quinn - 144.94

Completions
Quinn - 95
Leinart - 59

Completion %
Leinart - 67.8
Quinn - 61.7


The Defense is the weakest part on USC's team not to mention they're dinged up. Charlie Weis has two weeks to prepare for USC. A Caroll coached defense couldn't do shit against Charlie in the NFL, and it's not going to be any different in college.

[AshesAshes]

Oh please, I'd expect more of an argument.

1.
Brady Quinn is putting up better numbers than Leinhart in almost every cat. this year. Facing better teams than USC has faced so far and with less talent.

Passing Yards
Quinn - 1181
Leinart - 1028
-
Rusing Yards
Quinn - 56
Leinart - 20
-
Touchdowns
Both have 10
-
INT's
Both have 2
-
QB rating
Leinart - 200.40
Quinn - 144.94

Completions
Quinn - 95
Leinart - 59

Completion %
Leinart - 67.8
Quinn - 61.7


The Defense is the weakest part on USC's team not to mention they're dinged up. Charlie Weis has two weeks to prepare for USC. A Caroll coached defense couldn't do shit against Charlie in the NFL, and it's not going to be any different in college.
Leinart has the better qb rating and completion percantage and the same amount of td's I would say leinart is above quinn also how many heismans has quinn won????Notre Dame couldnt beat Michigan State they wont beat Usc.

[imirish06]

Notre Dame is putting up 475.0 yards a game not bad but usc is putting up 615 and Notre Dame will be exposed by Usc Notre Dame isnt a bad team they just got a couple big wins against a couple teams that werent as good as they where talked up to be they barely moved the ball against Michigan if Michigan offense played to what they are capable of Notre Dame would of been blown out.This week Usc is playing Asu and sam keller Asu's qb leads the nation in total offense just watch him get killed.


And Texas Tech is destroying them both in YPG, it doesn't mean Texas Tech is better.

Notre Dame also didn't have the luxory of opening up with Hawaii, Arkansas, and Oregon.

[AshesAshes]

Usc has a top 50 defense in the nation I wouldnt call that weak.

[imirish06]

Leinart has the better qb rating and completion percantage and the same amount of td's I would say leinart is above quinn also how many heismans has quinn won????Notre Dame couldnt beat Michigan State they wont beat Usc.

The point of the stats post wasn't to point out that Quinn is better than Leinart. It was to point out that Brady obviously doesn't suck.

Quinn was held back by Willingham.

[AshesAshes]

And Texas Tech is destroying them both in YPG, it doesn't mean Texas Tech is better.

Notre Dame also didn't have the luxory of opening up with Hawaii, Arkansas, and Oregon.
Notre Dame would lose to oregon,Notre Dame hasnt played anybody they played a overrated michigan team than they beat pittsburgh and lost to michigan state than they beat washington at least Usc has played one decent team.Your just a delusional fanboy.

[Scott Weber]

Oh please, I'd expect more of an argument.

1.
Brady Quinn is putting up better numbers than Leinhart in almost every cat. this year. Facing better teams than USC has faced so far and with less talent.

Passing Yards
Quinn - 1181
Leinart - 1028
-
Rusing Yards
Quinn - 56
Leinart - 20
-
Touchdowns
Both have 10
-
INT's
Both have 2
-
QB rating
Leinart - 200.40
Quinn - 144.94

Completions
Quinn - 95
Leinart - 59

Completion %
Leinart - 67.8
Quinn - 61.7


The Defense is the weakest part on USC's team not to mention they're dinged up. Charlie Weis has two weeks to prepare for USC. A Caroll coached defense couldn't do shit against Charlie in the NFL, and it's not going to be any different in college.
Yeah dude, those stats CLEARLY show that Quinn is inferior to Leinart, especially since USC has been pwning teams so hard Leinart would sit out the 2nd half.

You still have no argument on how USC can possibly lose to ND.

[imirish06]

Notre Dame would lose to oregon,Notre Dame hasnt played anybody they played a overrated michigan team than they beat pittsburgh and lost to michigan state than they beat washington at least Usc has played one decent team.Your just a delusional fanboy.

Dude, really.... now you're just talking retarded.


Notre Dame has the #1 ranked schedule in all of college football. Check the Sargin ratings, they still have it despite Pitt and Michigan losing.


Oregon blows, they opened up with two cake teams and could barely beat Fresno State. Any team Notre Dame has played so far with the exception of Washington could beat them. Michigan State would kill them.

I'm done arguing with you, or anyone else about this. We'll see come October 15th.

Yeah dude, those stats CLEARLY show that Quinn is inferior to Leinart, especially since USC has been pwning teams so hard Leinart would sit out the 2nd half.

You still have no argument on how USC can possibly lose to ND.

Read my post.


I said Notre Dame is going to shred their defense, I didn't say anything about them winning.

[AshesAshes]

Dude, really.... now you're just talking retarded.


Notre Dame has the #1 ranked schedule in all of college football. Check the Sargin ratings, they still have it despite Pitt and Michigan losing.


Oregon blows, they opened up with two cake teams and could barely beat Fresno State. Any team Notre Dame has played so far with the exception of Washington could beat them. Michigan State would kill them.

I'm done arguing with you, or anyone else about this. We'll see come October 15th.
Are you kidding me?Pitt lost to ohio they are god awful Oregon would kill Pitt.I dont care if they have the toughest schedule the season isnt over yet im saying they havent played anybody decent yet the only decent team they played they lost to them.Your just a delusional fanboy just wait till october 15th after Usc routes them you can come back in here and make up your excuses.

[Scott Weber]

Dude, really.... now you're just talking retarded.


Notre Dame has the #1 ranked schedule in all of college football. Check the Sargin ratings, they still have it despite Pitt and Michigan losing.


Oregon blows, they opened up with two cake teams and could barely beat Fresno State. Any team Notre Dame has played so far with the exception of Washington could beat them. Michigan State would kill them.

I'm done arguing with you, or anyone else about this. We'll see come October 15th.



Read my post.


I said Notre Dame is going to shred their defense, I didn't say anything about them winning.
If Washington didn't make such stupid mistakes, they would have been winning at half...INT in the endzone, fumble at the 1, another turnover deep in ND territory, those were all unforced husky errors. Sorry dude, you're going to get pwned by USC. You might score 25, but USC will score so fast the offense will be rattled (don't forget what happened to you against MSU...ouch)

[imirish06]

Are you kidding me?Pitt lost to ohio they are god awful Oregon would kill Pitt.I dont care if they have the toughest schedule the season isnt over yet im saying they havent played anybody decent yet the only decent team they played they lost to them.Your just a delusional fanboy just wait till october 15th after Usc routes them you can come back in here and make up your excuses.

Okay, so you're trying to tell me that Notre Dame hasn't played anyone yet, even though they played 3 ranked teams right now(or were ranked at the time).


But try to use the argument of USC putting up shitloads of yards against the only ranked team they played, who now isn't ranked.

Makes no sense at all.

If Washington didn't make such stupid mistakes, they would have been winning at half...INT in the endzone, fumble at the 1, another turnover deep in ND territory, those were all unforced husky errors. Sorry dude, you're going to get pwned by USC. You might score 25, but USC will score so fast the offense will be rattled (don't forget what happened to you against MSU...ouch)


And if Notre Dame didn't make a few mistakes they would've had 3 more touchdowns.


Coulda, Woulda, Shoulda.

I remember quite well what happened against MSU.

Notre Dame put up 41 points and 594 yards against them. Doesn't seem like the Offense was that rattled to me

[AshesAshes]

Okay, so you're trying to tell me that Notre Dame hasn't played anyone yet, even though they played 3 ranked teams right now(or were ranked at the time).


But try to use the argument of USC putting up shitloads of yards against the only ranked team they played, who now isn't ranked.

Makes no sense at all.




And if Notre Dame didn't make a few mistakes they would've had 3 more touchdowns.


Coulda, Woulda, Shoulda.

I remember quite well what happened against MSU.

Notre Dame put up 41 points and 594 yards against them. Doesn't seem like the Offense was that rattled to me
The ranked teams notre dame played werent very good is my argument Usc played a decent ranked team and the only reason oregon isnt ranked anymore is because Usc beat them.

[YourLatestVicti]

The ranked teams notre dame played werent very good is my argument Usc played a decent ranked team and the only reason oregon isnt ranked anymore is because Usc beat them.
If Michigan had beaten Notre Dame they'd still be ranked.

[AshesAshes]

If Michigan had beaten Notre Dame they'd still be ranked.
You dont know that cause Michigan just lost Notre Dame isnt the only team that beat them.

[imirish06]

The ranked teams notre dame played werent very good is my argument Usc played a decent ranked team and the only reason oregon isnt ranked anymore is because Usc beat them.

They're unranked because the first time they actually played a team with talent they got the shit beat out of them.

Oregon is probably better than Pitt, but they sure as hell aren't better than Michigan or Michigan State

[AshesAshes]

Oregon did beat Fresno State they arent bad at all.They arent better than the Michigan teams that's true but Notre Dame still doesnt match up to Usc Notre Dames offense will score on Usc but they wont win the game.

[imirish06]

Thank you, that's all I've been trying to say since I posted.

I doubt Notre Dame will beat USC. But I know they're going to score on them more than any team has.

[selftitled85]

even if usc rattles off points...nd i dont think will be afraid. charlie weis is a coaching guru. nd had an awful first half against msu and was behind 37-17 before tying the game and losing in ot...BUT...this is no way means that nd can beat usc. if you remember, last yr quinn torched usc for over 300 yds and usc still pwned them. i see the game being closer to 42-31 or something of the sort.

i see nd coming into the game prepared and ready for anything and for a time holding its own. but once usc is on cruise control, its all over.

[Scott Weber]

even if usc rattles off points...nd i dont think will be afraid. charlie weis is a coaching guru. nd had an awful first half against msu and was behind 37-17 before tying the game and losing in ot...BUT...this is no way means that nd can beat usc. if you remember, last yr quinn torched usc for over 300 yds and usc still pwned them. i see the game being closer to 42-31 or something of the sort.

i see nd coming into the game prepared and ready for anything and for a time holding its own. but once usc is on cruise control, its all over.
I call 45-27 USC.

[imirish06]

It's ashame Notre Dame doesn't have a defense.

[YourLatestVicti]

I call 45-27 USC.
I think it's going to be a little closer just because ND will be coming of a by week.

It's ashame Notre Dame doesn't have a defense.
And to think the last few years it's been "it's a shame Notre Dame doesn't have an offense."

[imirish06]

I think it's going to be a little closer just because ND will be coming of a by week.


And to think the last few years it's been "it's a shame Notre Dame doesn't have an offense."


Hahah I know! Could you imagine how good Notre Dame would be if they had this years offense and the defense of 2002?

[sundaysetsashes]

ill make a joe namath guarantee that ND upsets USC

[Paul Tao]

Scott, you're my hero in this thread.

[Scott Weber]

Scott, you're my hero in this thread.
Yeah, yeah, fight on, blah blah :)

At least I'm not coming on here and proclaiming that my school is going to beat you...haha...we are so bad this year....I'll save the trash talk for basketball season, in the mean time, GO USC!

[selftitled85]

ill make a joe namath guarantee that ND upsets USC


joe namath is prob one of the most overrated players ever. he had one season of greatness and one of the largest egos ever.


my belief is if any team will upset usc this yr it will come from cal...since they did it before. they gave usc their last loss.

[sundaysetsashes]

yeah but i just say that in cases when im sure something will happen. being that he guaranteed a SB win and it happened, everthing to me that is certain is a joe namath guarantee

[merv the perv]

Notre Dame will beat them.
Hahahaha good one. They couldn't even beat Michigan State, let alone perhaps the best offensive team in NCAA history.

Eh .. LSU could beat them anyday. I still think "sharing" the 2003 championship was absolute bullshit.
LSU could barely beat Arizona State and just got embarassed by Tennessee.

Not if you watched the game.


Notre Dame beat themselves. Ridiculous amounts of penalties cost them.


It should've been over several times befor going to OT.


Oh btw, MSU also pretty much destroys USC in offensive production, in every aspect.
It doesn't matter who beat who....a great team doesn't let that happen. Also, those stats might be different if USC didn't put in their second and third string players with a bunch of time left. Even USC's third string quarterback threw a touchdown pass in their win over Arkansas. SC could have put up 90 in that game if they wanted. Easy. If you think the Irish are even close to being on the same level as SC, you are sadly mistaken.

Your point? Just because a football team rattles points away from someone doesnt mean shit. It means the other team was giving up because they thought they were fine, it happend to LSU tonight as a matter of fact. Im well aware when LSU won the championship, a lot of players are 5th year seniors not to mention for the championship game they played through two quarterbacks, one who happens to be the first string quarterback this year. And also, Im not a "man" .. thank you.
Ooooh, that's why you have no idea what you're talking about.

Yeah, I said it.

Notre Dame is going to shred USC's defense.


Write that down.
No man. No. But I love the fact that you stick up for your team. That's why sports are awesome.


I'm still gonna laugh at you when USC beats them by three TDs.

[imirish06]

Hahahaha good one. They couldn't even beat Michigan State, let alone perhaps the best offensive team in NCAA history.


LSU could barely beat Arizona State and just got embarassed by Tennessee.


It doesn't matter who beat who....a great team doesn't let that happen. Also, those stats might be different if USC didn't put in their second and third string players with a bunch of time left. Even USC's third string quarterback threw a touchdown pass in their win over Arkansas. SC could have put up 90 in that game if they wanted. Easy. If you think the Irish are even close to being on the same level as SC, you are sadly mistaken.


Ooooh, that's why you have no idea what you're talking about.

Yeah, I said it.


No man. No. But I love the fact that you stick up for your team. That's why sports are awesome.


I'm still gonna laugh at you when USC beats them by three TDs.


1. Michigan State is underrated, big time. They're in a very good position to win the big ten if their defense can hold it's own.

2. Do you read what I post? I have never, ever said that Notre Dame is in the same league as USC (Yet). I have never said that Notre Dame will beat USC this year.(Give them 2-3 years and they will be back to regularly owning them).


I simply said

Notre
Dame
Will
Score
More
on
them
than
any
other
team
has
this
year

[merv the perv]

1. Michigan State is underrated, big time. They're in a very good position to win the big ten if their defense can hold it's own.

2. Do you read what I post? I have never, ever said that Notre Dame is in the same league as USC (Yet). I have never said that Notre Dame will beat USC this year.(Give them 2-3 years and they will be back to regularly owning them).


I simply said

Notre
Dame
Will
Score
More
on
them
than
any
other
team
has
this
year
Okay.... but I doubt Notre Dame is back to "owning" USC anytime as soon as you hope. Everyone wants to go to USC. A lot more kids will be wanting to go to ND than in the past few years, but USC will still be the top draw. I think that Jimmy Clausen kid, the high school junior quarterback-prodigy who has already received full scholarship offers from a ton of schools, was leaning towards USC last time I heard.

[imirish06]

Okay.... but I doubt Notre Dame is back to "owning" USC anytime as soon as you hope. Everyone wants to go to USC. A lot more kids will be wanting to go to ND than in the past few years, but USC will still be the top draw. I think that Jimmy Clausen kid, the high school junior quarterback-prodigy who has already received full scholarship offers from a ton of schools, was leaning towards USC last time I heard.

He also received that scholarship before it was legal to be offered. There was a big story on ESPN about it.


Notre Dame is also in the running for him.


Notre Dame has one of it's best classes in the history of the program right now and the season isn't even halfway over. Charlie Weis has produced an offensive machine with two of the arguably worst classes in ND history.

2-3 years.

[merv the perv]

He also received that scholarship before it was legal to be offered. There was a big story on ESPN about it.


Notre Dame is also in the running for him.


Notre Dame has one of it's best classes in the history of the program right now and the season isn't even halfway over. Charlie Weis has produced an offensive machine with two of the arguably worst classes in ND history.

2-3 years.
I saw the same story, and I'm pretty sure that only one school got in trouble for it and it wasn't USC. USC and some of the other schools didn't break any rules because they never actually said in their letters, "We will give you a scholarship if you come play for us." But now he's a junior and he's allowed to receive offers, so he's received a legal offer from SC, among many others. Even if I'm wrong (which I'll admit if you can find an article or something) and USC was the school to get in trouble, it's not like they aren't allowed to recruit him anymore.

Don't get me wrong, I'm rooting for the Irish. It sucks that they lost to MSU because I wanted them to win every game except one and maybe play in a big bowl game at the end of the season. I'm sure you can guess the one game I'd want them to lose.

[sundaysetsashes]

if they play the way they do, i still think they can get in on a major bowl game

[Paul Tao]

That was an intense game. 5 interceptions is crazy.

[Drew Beringer]

Go Badgers. ;)

[justinevans]

If FSU gets to play USC, defensively they match up the best speed wise. FSU will be the next USC over the next 2 years. They are young, fast, and talented.

Penn State has some nice Freshman right now too.

[still_life]

Wow, down 18 points on the road and they still win by 10. Looking at the numbers, the game shouldn't even have been that close. USC had 381 yards rushing.

Anyone think White is going to be a better NFL RB than Bush?

[Paul Tao]

Wow, down 18 points on the road and they still win by 10. Looking at the numbers, the game shouldn't even have been that close. USC had 381 yards rushing.

Anyone think White is going to be a better NFL RB than Bush?
Will Bush even be a RB in the NFL?

[merv the perv]

Wow, down 18 points on the road and they still win by 10. Looking at the numbers, the game shouldn't even have been that close. USC had 381 yards rushing.

Anyone think White is going to be a better NFL RB than Bush?
Yeah, he probably will be because of his size.

[selftitled85]

bush will be a beast in the nfl. lt proved that you can be a receiving back and do really well. i see bush making it big in the nfl

[still_life]

Bush seems more like Westbrook than a LT/Faulk. And I don't think Westbrook is even close to being a top 5 RB in the league right now. Those kind of guys haven't proven they can carry a team's rushing load for a season.

[imirish06]

two tapes showing chinks in the armor
and two weeks to prepare


watch for it.

[still_life]

Charlie Weis doesn't know defense, he can't stop them, only keep pace.

[Scott Weber]

Will Bush even be a RB in the NFL?
I don't know...I am not convinced he'll be big in the NFL yet, he's a tweener. He could be the next Desmond Howard...phenomenal college player, but never found a posistion in the NFL and ended up a return specialist.

[imirish06]

he'll try to do the same thing against USC as he did against the colts when the patriots defense was dinged up, and the same thing he did against Purdue




36:03 - 23:57

[still_life]

USC doesn't need TOP to score points. They take huge chunks at a time.