Is it ok to compare the President to a monkey?

[ACA]

It was OK (or was it not OK?) to do it for George Bush. (http://www.google.com/search?q=bush+monkey)

Is it OK to do it for Barack Obama? (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7898845.stm)

[love_american_style]

no. thats racist.

[youareallfreaks]

no. thats racist.


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[Shellular]

yikes.

[Roboman]

no. thats racist.

http://rightvoices.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/thats_racist.gif

[Simulcast]

Sure, why not. We all descended from apes.

[ACA]

Does what could be seen as silly humor if President George W Bush were in the White House have to be seen through the lens of America's racist past (and present?)?

[chokeychicken]

but GW actually looks like a monkey

[diehtc0ke]

Does what could be seen as silly humor if President George W Bush were in the White House have to be seen through the lens of America's racist past (and present?)?
Especially considering that particular racial lens, the lens of the antagonistic relationship between white New York City cops and black males, and that the monkey is shot and killed, I'd say yes.

[love_american_style]

http://rightvoices.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/thats_racist.gif

el. oh. el. i love that kid.

[Buried A Lie]

The word monkey is known to be used as a racist slur, the Bush comparisons don't really draw on anything racially suggestive.

[jtsnazzy]

Just use a different animal that's dumb and ugly. Problem solved.

[J.C.]

I have a hard time believing the artist actually intended the monkey to be a racial symbol. Nobody can be braindead enough to think that would go unnoticed. The artist was completely tone-deaf though in not recognizing how his dumb cartoon could be taken another way.

[KillMeTheKing26]

The whole thing is stupid.

The story about how the police had to shoot the monkey was hilarious, but I don't see how the stimulus package tied into the joke. I don't personally see it as racist, but it was a poor decision by the newspaper to let that run.

[loveisdead]

I have a hard time believing the artist actually intended the monkey to be a racial symbol. Nobody can be braindead enough to think that would go unnoticed. The artist was completely tone-deaf though in not recognizing how his dumb cartoon could be taken another way.
whether or not he intended it to be that way is really beside the point. If he didn't realize that it would be taken racially the guy is a total moron.

[J.C.]

There is no logical connection between the stories, it was just the conservative New York Post with a bad attempt at mocking the stimulus bill.

[J.C.]

whether or not he intended it to be that way is really beside the point. If he didn't realize that it would be taken racially the guy is a total moron.

Indubitably, Ry-diggity. :tophat:

[Jason Tate]

The whole thing is stupid.

The story about how the police had to shoot the monkey was hilarious, but I don't see how the stimulus package tied into the joke. I don't personally see it as racist, but it was a poor decision by the newspaper to let that run.
They're the Fox News of newspapers -- it's not really surprising.

[diehtc0ke]

They're the Fox News of newspapers -- it's not really surprising.
I'd go as far as to say that's a compliment. I refused to even pay 25 cents for the Post when they lowered their price. I preferred having conversations with homeless people on the subway. At least they had some sense.

[Justin_stacy]

It probably shouldn't have made it past the editors desk, although since there's nothing inherently racist within the cartoon its understandable that noone found it objectionable given the relation it had to recent event (http://www.nypost.com/seven/02162009/news/regionalnews/bizarre_animal_attack_in_stamford_1 55493.htm). Condi Rice regularly faced more obvious racist attacks in editorial cartoons.

[Machu505]

Whether the comic is intentionally racist or not, somebody at the New York Post should have stopped and thought about which way people might take the comic.

[loveisdead]

Whether the comic is intentionally racist or not, somebody at the New York Post should have stopped and thought about which way people might take the comic.
This.

[boykosaurus]

What's wrong is that CNN is wasting chunks of time talking about this.

[Fallinto_rhythm]

HAHAHAHAHAHH it absolutely is okay!

you're sick

[boykosaurus]

HAHAHAHAHAHH it absolutely is okay!

huh?

[anamericangod]

HAHAHAHAHAHH it absolutely is okay!

No.

[J.C.]

lol why delete it after it's already been quoted 3 times?

[Justin_stacy]

lol why delete it after it's already been quoted 3 times?

:missing:

[SLOWPOKE LOPEZ]

it isn't racist. they aren't using a monkey in that way. despite everybody here mostly being in favor of the bill, a lot of people think a monkey could have come up with a better plan. hence the joke. it has nothing to do with the presidents race. people need to stop being so sensitive towards any criticism of obama.

[TK]

Was the intention of the cartoonist to be racist?

[xshady121]

While anyone should be able to grasp the connection between the stimulus bill and the "crazy" monkey, (monkeys often are associated with crazy, things being "bananas", etc...) it's something an editor should have caught.

You know he wasn't trying to be racist, because not even Fox News, certainly not a cartoonist, would have the balls to be that openly racist.

[walking_by91]

http://rightvoices.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/thats_racist.gif

Hahaha I can't stop watching that hahah.

[walking_by91]

But no, it ain't right

[WakingTheMisery]

I was listening to the radio and heard the good reverend preaching about how the NY Post should be shut down as well as Fox News. Clearly he is over reacting in saying Fox News should be shut down. What do you guys think?

http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2009/02/20/amd_ny_post_cartoon_2.jpg

Please leave inappropriate comments at the door.

[KarolaBloch]

http://www.photoshoptalent.com/images/contests/wine%20in%20box/fullsize/wine%20in%20box_47c35eda516f8.jpg

[DeathCabForCoon]

http://www.photoshoptalent.com/images/contests/wine%20in%20box/fullsize/wine%20in%20box_47c35eda516f8.jpg


lol

But seriously if the cartoonist feigns ignorance with the obvious connotations of the comic he's pretty dumb. That being said it's a stupid cartoon and yet another thing distracting the country from the real issues at hand.

[WakingTheMisery]

I can understand that they would try and play on the monkey thing that took place in Central Park, but what does this have to do with Obama or the stimulus plan?

[DeathCabForCoon]

Yeah, it's just a shitty cartoon even if you didn't tie it to Obama.

[steviestare]

They are either
A: Really stupid to think people wouldn't go there.
B: Meant to go there and are again, stupid.

[Un'Aria Ancora]

I think that for all of the bush cartoons and even movies, it's time to suck it up and take 1.
It's a fucking cartoon...

[Praetor]

It's a dumb cartoon but I don't find it offensive.

[WakingTheMisery]

I don't see why this was merged.

[xshady121]

I think that for all of the bush cartoons and even movies, it's time to suck it up and take 1.
It's a fucking cartoon...

Is this the sick movie you're referring to?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StYMJxDDwcc

[J.C.]

I can understand that they would try and play on the monkey thing that took place in Central Park, but what does this have to do with Obama or the stimulus plan?

Wasn't Central Park, it was out in the boonies in Connecticut.

There was no logical connection between the stories, just a poor attempt at humor.

[Ben09]

Nothing's off limits.

[thatwasamoment]

Obama did not write the stimulus bill. There is no comparison between Obama and a monkey.