Fender American Deluxe Telecaster

[theguy77]

seriously considering selling both my guitars and my old amp cab for this beauty, preferably the version that comes in sunburst. opinions from people who've played it? im choosing a telecaster cause my new sound is an indie rock sound, so my epi les paul is just too mushy and gainy for those crispy, thin guitar parts and im starting to have issues with my MIM standard tele, but i want to still be able to play my old pop-punk rhythm guitar parts with good tone, and i just want to have a high-caliber guitar.

http://img3.musiciansfriend.com/dbase/pics/products/2/3/1/475231.jpg

[theguy77]

sorry, i should have highlighted the reason i posted a thread about this -- any opinions from people whove played it?

haha i wasnt just trying to brag and say OH IM GETTING THIS BE JEALOUS LOLZ

[TheSkyline]

I played one at guitar center and it sucked. It sounded really thin and had no substance to it. However, I'm not a hundred percent sure it's the same model, and I had no fucking clue how to operate the amp I was playing it on. haha so don't listen to me.

Sweet guitar though!

[theguy77]

haha, did you try playing with the s-1 switching? you can get a mad variety of pickup combinations with it, im not entirely sure its the same on the telecaster but i know on the strat they put this button in the middle of the volume knob and that changes up your pickup combos.

[The Boathouse]

I played an American Standard and was quite pleased with it. The tone is definitely there. The price, though, is what turns me off. I'd be more likely to buy a used Highway1 and get some Fralin pickups put in it....

[screamoutmyname]

i fully support your decision.

telecasters are the best guitars out there, if you ask me

[Siren Silently]

I love Teles, but I have to say. They are kind of a one trick pony. That one trick however is godsend. I have a 62' RI MIJ Tele (which has vintage parts and pickups so it'd sound a little different); the neck pickup's only good for jazz really, the middle sounds like a drier Strat, the bridge however, is where those thin 'indie' guitar parts come from. It is amazing, it's ballsy, gritty, albiet thin and often piercing, it's like that first girl you've ever genuinely had feelings for, she may be lacking in many categories but when you guys have it going, it just feels so right.

One thing though is with pop-punk, using that much gain does not sound too sound too good on the Tele (as far as rhythm goes); it kind of loses the crunch you might be used to with a humbucking guitar.... the treble goes out of control and gives you a very loose, sloppy sounding distortion. This probably could be due to vintage pickups, so you might want to disregard this as the American version has hotter PUs.

The American Deluxe version of the Tele has the backcontour which is really nice, regular teles (like mine) kind of cave into your ribs after playing with them for awhile.

[screamoutmyname]

i was in a pop punk/rock-ish band, a hardcore band and now writing indie-ish stuff... the telecaster sounds awesome in every situation.

i'd say it's definitely a very versatile guitar.

[theguy77]

I love Teles, but I have to say. They are kind of a one trick pony. That one trick however is godsend. I have a 62' RI MIJ Tele (which has vintage parts and pickups so it'd sound a little different); the neck pickup's only good for jazz really, the middle sounds like a drier Strat, the bridge however, is where those thin 'indie' guitar parts come from. It is amazing, it's ballsy, gritty, albiet thin and often piercing, it's like that first girl you've ever genuinely had feelings for, she may be lacking in many categories but when you guys have it going, it just feels so right.

One thing though is with pop-punk, using that much gain does not sound too sound too good on the Tele (as far as rhythm goes); it kind of loses the crunch you might be used to with a humbucking guitar.... the treble goes out of control and gives you a very loose, sloppy sounding distortion. This probably could be due to vintage pickups, so you might want to disregard this as the American version has hotter PUs.

The American Deluxe version of the Tele has the backcontour which is really nice, regular teles (like mine) kind of cave into your ribs after playing with them for awhile.

one trick pony? really? i have a MIM and i find that it's more versatile than my epi les paul, although i changed out the pickups and the neck pickup isnt grounded properly so there is a ridiculous amoutn of buzz, even for a telecaster. but it handles blues on the neck pickup quite nicely, got that raspy grit without the tone like swallowing itself in low frequencies. i do know what you get at when you say the tele gets pretty harsh and isnt as fluid or crunchy when it comes to those pop-punk rhythm sounds, and that it's really lacking in some areas, but i can deal with that -- a lot of bands have. its the deluxe so im hoping S-1 switching provides me with a richer tone for that. but ohhh, im sure a telecaster is indie-rock heaven; nearly every indie-rock band i know of uses one, or two.

[The Boathouse]

This is bound to be a hot debate. I'm going to say that I think the neck is GREAT for a wide range of things. The cleans have got that classic Fender character. They're beautiful, dynamic, harmonically rich.. Nomnomnom. And the bridge pickup's HOT! I think it's fairly versatile. There's a church of players who would argue it's the only guitar you'd ever need!

[theguy77]

This is bound to be a hot debate. I'm going to say that I think the neck is GREAT for a wide range of things. The cleans have got that classic Fender character. They're beautiful, dynamic, harmonically rich.. Nomnomnom. And the bridge pickup's HOT! I think it's fairly versatile. There's a church of players who would argue it's the only guitar you'd ever need!

yeah now see thats what id be banking on if i got it. i dont want to spend over 1,000 dollars on something that's not going to be usable for a mass variety of styles -- this is looking to be my first actual pro-grade guitar and due to the price, the only one i'll own for a good while.

[The Boathouse]

It'll definitely be usable in a large amount of settings.

It's my opinion, however, that what quacks like a duck is a duck, and you'll never get a Tele to sound like an SG, or a Strat like a Les Paul, and that's what you have to keep in mind. Yes, the Tele will cover vast sonic ground. But the subtleties that make a Tele a Tele will make sure that your Tele sounds like what it is, more than another guitar. Can you play pop punk, classic rock, blues, jazz, and anything else on a Tele? Yes. You could probably play anything on any guitar. But if you want that riff to sound like you hit it on an SG, well, then hit it on an SG.

I heard a story of a guy who went and saw SRV during his early days. The guy brought his guitar backstage to have SRV sign it, and Stevie played it through a little practice amp. With 9 gauge strings on an average Strat, the guy claims it still sounded just like Stevie, while Stevie was playing his #1 Strat with 13's on it that night through a hell of an amp set up. More of how you sound is in your hands than anything else. Or so some of us claim.

[theguy77]

It'll definitely be usable in a large amount of settings.

It's my opinion, however, that what quacks like a duck is a duck, and you'll never get a Tele to sound like an SG, or a Strat like a Les Paul, and that's what you have to keep in mind. Yes, the Tele will cover vast sonic ground. But the subtleties that make a Tele a Tele will make sure that your Tele sounds like what it is, more than another guitar. Can you play pop punk, classic rock, blues, jazz, and anything else on a Tele? Yes. You could probably play anything on any guitar. But if you want that riff to sound like you hit it on an SG, well, then hit it on an SG.

I heard a story of a guy who went and saw SRV during his early days. The guy brought his guitar backstage to have SRV sign it, and Stevie played it through a little practice amp. With 9 gauge strings on an average Strat, the guy claims it still sounded just like Stevie, while Stevie was playing his #1 Strat with 13's on it that night through a hell of an amp set up. More of how you sound is in your hands than anything else. Or so some of us claim.

hahaha, well you see as a self-trained guitarist who's only good for playing specific styles of music but lacks the ability to do, say, blues or jazz improv, i dont think i can play with the expression to make a guitar express itself any different way. so ultimately my tele will be a tele in my hands. but yeah having played a MIM tele although it doesnt do the upper level teles justice i still do know what to expect as far as the "tele twang" and what styles it just cant cover.

[johnh5304]

I have this guitar and I'm completely satisfied with it. It's more versatile than some people give it credit for but don't expect massive crunch ability from this thing. That is what humbuckers are for but the samarian cobalt pickups are amazing in their own right. I was interested in this guitar for the indie music and I can say it works great for what I'm trying to do.

I got mine off ebay a few years ago for $900 and it was basically brand new. All the paperwork and stickers were on it so I don't even think anyone really played it.

[theguy77]

oh SICK good deal, i actually could get very close to that amount of money by selling an MIM tele, an epi les paul, and an old marshall AVT412A cab.

[Burn That Shit]

I play a tele and I like it A LOT, works wonderful for your leads and I think I would get skinned alive if I brought a Les Paul to my honors ensemble anyway, haha. I would keep that Les Paul on hand though, especially since you play some pop punk and I'm assuming that you'd be playing rythmn live if you were singing.(You have to let me know when you're done with that album, by the way).

[Siren Silently]

one trick pony? really? i have a MIM and i find that it's more versatile than my epi les paul, although i changed out the pickups and the neck pickup isnt grounded properly so there is a ridiculous amoutn of buzz, even for a telecaster. but it handles blues on the neck pickup quite nicely, got that raspy grit without the tone like swallowing itself in low frequencies. i do know what you get at when you say the tele gets pretty harsh and isnt as fluid or crunchy when it comes to those pop-punk rhythm sounds, and that it's really lacking in some areas, but i can deal with that -- a lot of bands have. its the deluxe so im hoping S-1 switching provides me with a richer tone for that. but ohhh, im sure a telecaster is indie-rock heaven; nearly every indie-rock band i know of uses one, or two.

One trick pony not in that it's not versatile. It is. It can play anything. Fenders can do just about any genre; it's a one trick pony because it has one distinct sound, that regardless of the genre you play, you will know its a Tele. You can play metal with it... country, hard rock, anything... and the Tele will lend it's trebley characteristic. Even if you put the tone almost at minimum you will get that trebly bite, in just about any amp you play in, at just about any (reasonable) setting.

In comparison to the other great Fender guitar, Tele covers more ground but the Strat has a much bigger tonal range .

And holy shit, I just saw that they bumped up the prices of Fenders in response to inflation.... From 1274->1650 or something.

[theguy77]

One trick pony not in that it's not versatile. It is. It can play anything. Fenders can do just about any genre; it's a one trick pony because it has one distinct sound, that regardless of the genre you play, you will know its a Tele. You can play metal with it... country, hard rock, anything... and the Tele will lend it's trebley characteristic. Even if you put the tone almost at minimum you will get that trebly bite, in just about any amp you play in, at just about any (reasonable) setting.

In comparison to the other great Fender guitar, Tele covers more ground but the Strat has a much bigger tonal range .

And holy shit, I just saw that they bumped up the prices of Fenders in response to inflation.... From 1274->1650 or something.

ahhh yeah that makes sense you can tell a tele from a mile away. but ive been picking out tele's in all sorts of music and im always quite fond of that tone, i dont know why it just strikes a cord with me, i LOVE how much character they have. i dont mind the fact that it has a trebley shape to the sound, i would just need to mess with my amp settings and the S-1 switching to make it less harsh but im sure i can do that.

[theguy77]

I play a tele and I like it A LOT, works wonderful for your leads and I think I would get skinned alive if I brought a Les Paul to my honors ensemble anyway, haha. I would keep that Les Paul on hand though, especially since you play some pop punk and I'm assuming that you'd be playing rythmn live if you were singing.(You have to let me know when you're done with that album, by the way).

yeah, meh, i just dont think i'll need the les paul i mean ace enders and jesse lacey both played tele's for rhythm in their pop-punk days. i think it should be fine with the right amp settings even if the sound isnt as buttery smooth and rich as that of the les paul. besides my LP needs the strings changed quite often or else they sound really muffled when picked by themselves and i cant stand that.

but yeah im gonna make sure that everyone who's interested knows about it when its done haha. but i really cant wait to progress to new music styles, being honest.

[johnh5304]

That's awesome man.

I forgot to mention that I've never seen another one in this color. Ever.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v222/johnh5304/7d_12.jpg

[drag_in_d_flat]

'69 fender thinline telecaster reissue is one of the most beautiful guitars to ever grace the earth.

[patrickhowell]

but yeah im gonna make sure that everyone who's interested knows about it when its done haha. but i really cant wait to progress to new music styles, being honest.

What does this mean ?

[theguy77]

What does this mean ?

im kind of outgrowing my pop-punk phase and my writing has started to evolve with my tastes, so ive been writing in different styles lately and i cant wait to pursue them, cause ive been working on this album since i just turned 16 and at this point im almost completely burned out. i'll play it live obviously but as far as the actual creative process of developing the songs im totally weary from this pop-punk album. this album for me will be similar to what YFW was for brand new, although based on what im writing i have a feeling my next album will be more of a departure from that sound than deja was.

fortunately this album's finally going to be done by the end of this month.