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superichie
02/24/09, 06:03 AM
In your opinion, who are the real kings of pop punk?

Helpless
02/24/09, 06:12 AM
Fight ot the death between Blink-182 and Green Day.
I can't decide.

Jefferson Rank
02/24/09, 06:15 AM
It WAS Blink, but they got lazy. They can still take it back though.

I'm also disapointed in the new Green Day single. It was stupid of me to expect American Idiot.

fadedmemories
02/24/09, 06:17 AM
Tie between FOB and NFG. Though judging by my avatar, it's probably obvious who I voted for.

Cody Nelson
02/24/09, 07:12 AM
How am I supposed to vote We The Kings, if there's no 'other' option? I mean, it is in their name.

fadedmemories
02/24/09, 07:23 AM
How am I supposed to vote We The Kings, if there's no 'other' option? I mean, it is in their name.
:thumbup:

m_rue
02/24/09, 07:50 AM
Homegrown!

superichie
02/24/09, 08:13 AM
How am I supposed to vote We The Kings, if there's no 'other' option? I mean, it is in their name.

You're joking right?

superichie
02/24/09, 08:14 AM
And there's no "Other" option, because in all honesty...these 4 are the only REAL contenders for this.

domotime2
02/24/09, 09:11 AM
the love for blink182 needs to end...

and fall out boy is not the right answer, in the least bit. Descendents should be a choice.

Oddpac87
02/24/09, 09:27 AM
If FOB had stopped making music after TTTYG, it would be them. Its Blink.

Brandon Allin
02/24/09, 10:10 AM
It's between Blink and NFG, but I refuse to choose.

tonyC4L
02/24/09, 12:01 PM
Homegrown!
Haha exactly what I was thinking.

superichie
02/24/09, 12:31 PM
If FOB had stopped making music after TTTYG, it would be them. Its Blink.

While I agree TTTYG is their best, their other albums could still be considered pop punk to an extent.

phoenixinflames
02/24/09, 12:39 PM
NFG. I've been satisfied with every album they've put out, regardless of their change in direction. They've survived life after a major label, and kept their credit. I'll always love them.

I feel like Blink 182 WERE the kings, and FOB have become a full on pop act rather than a pop punk band. Green Day has also moved on to create more "rock" oriented albums than pop punk.

Oddpac87
02/24/09, 12:43 PM
While I agree TTTYG is their best, their other albums could still be considered pop punk to an extent.
Ehh. Evening Out and TTTYG are pure pop punk. I would call the new stuff Pop/Pop-Rock at best.

superichie
02/24/09, 12:47 PM
Ehh. Evening Out and TTTYG are pure pop punk. I would call the new stuff Pop/Pop-Rock at best.

Yeah....except Evening Out is awful. the only thing that might sound worse than that is NFG's It's All About the Girls EP. hahaha!

Chancetobe
02/24/09, 01:17 PM
FOB is the most pop-y, and the most popular. So i'm gonna vote for them.

Cody Nelson
02/24/09, 01:43 PM
You're joking right?

You're joking about asking me if I was joking, right? Haha.

superichie
02/24/09, 02:20 PM
You're joking about asking me if I was joking, right? Haha.


No, I'm dead serious. Cause if you're insinuating that We the Kings deserves to be in this poll, you might just wanna give up on listening to music altogether.

Cody Nelson
02/24/09, 04:03 PM
No, I'm dead serious. Cause if you're insinuating that We the Kings deserves to be in this poll, you might just wanna give up on listening to music altogether.


Nah, dude. Totally kidding. Don't worry.

jay_klinkhammer
02/24/09, 04:13 PM
NFG has made much better albums and didn't take any "breaks". They are easily the winner.

loganmmm
02/24/09, 04:26 PM
Homegrown!

This is also what I was thinking. Kings of Pop is a great pop punk album.

Himynameisjesh
02/24/09, 04:58 PM
i wasnt gonna vote for blink-182 but i have faith that they can take back their crown

billy_yo
02/24/09, 05:17 PM
New Found Glory

Brett3
02/24/09, 07:20 PM
Blink for sure. New Found Glory is still amazing though.

phil19
02/24/09, 08:22 PM
i think nfg are my favs out of all of those so i went with them

dpetty21
02/24/09, 08:55 PM
NFG. I've been satisfied with every album they've put out, regardless of their change in direction. They've survived life after a major label, and kept their credit. I'll always love them.

I feel like Blink 182 WERE the kings, and FOB have become a full on pop act rather than a pop punk band. Green Day has also moved on to create more "rock" oriented albums than pop punk.

I agree.NFG is my favorite out of these and are surely the kings at the moment imo opinion since Blink hasn't put out a new record yet and FOB has gone pop. I disagree whole heartedly with the person who said FOB would be if they stopped after TTTYG. That is an amazing CD but not good enough to make them kings and also to be kings I'd assume you would have to put out moe than one CD(or two if you count the one they don't count). The reason I picked Blink is because they are now back in action and were more on top then NFG has ever been in popularity and ruling the pop punk world. With the craze starting back up it's easy to assume they will rule again. NFG just isn't as big.

ihatecayte
02/24/09, 09:04 PM
Green Day. they were the ones who brought it to the forefront first without selling out in the process. they actually have matured and grown up, musically and otherwise. the catalog is wide and varied. they had good roots in the punk scene and influenced a lot of bands. that's my vote and i am so baffled that they only have 7 votes. amazing.

LongDistanceDrunk
02/24/09, 09:19 PM
NFG. I've been satisfied with every album they've put out, regardless of their change in direction. They've survived life after a major label, and kept their credit. I'll always love them.

I feel like Blink 182 WERE the kings, and FOB have become a full on pop act rather than a pop punk band. Green Day has also moved on to create more "rock" oriented albums than pop punk.
I agree with all of that. Its NFG for me no contest.

LongDistanceDrunk
02/24/09, 09:21 PM
I agree.NFG is my favorite out of these and are surely the kings at the moment imo opinion since Blink hasn't put out a new record yet and FOB has gone pop. I disagree whole heartedly with the person who said FOB would be if they stopped after TTTYG. That is an amazing CD but not good enough to make them kings and also to be kings I'd assume you would have to put out moe than one CD(or two if you count the one they don't count). The reason I picked Blink is because they are now back in action and were more on top then NFG has ever been in popularity and ruling the pop punk world. With the craze starting back up it's easy to assume they will rule again. NFG just isn't as big.
I kind of wish NFG had the success Blink has because they have always been far superior as well as consistent. NFG hasn't released a bad album but I can't say the same for Blink

dpetty21
02/24/09, 10:08 PM
I kind of wish NFG had the success Blink has because they have always been far superior as well as consistent. NFG hasn't released a bad album but I can't say the same for Blink

NFG definitely deserves to have gotten a lot bigger than they have. They're my favorite band for a reason. Not one piece of music they have put out has ever been a let down. I do like them more than Blink but Blink is in my top 5. I love all their albums too but NFG just has a certain feeling for me every time I listen to them regardless of album.

actionpat
02/24/09, 10:47 PM
i guess we the kings would have been too obvious a choice.

(yea i realize this was a half ass attempt at being clever):wave:

flyeast
02/24/09, 11:06 PM
New Found Glory may have released consistently good music, but that still doesn't amount to half of what blink-182 is. When you think blink-182, you don't only think about the music, you think about baggy Dickies shorts, tube socks, fart jokes, nudity and just immaturity in general. It's almost like blink-182 stand for a certain identity, while I just don't think New Found Glory have the same huge personality to match them, let alone to be crowned kings of a genre.

phil19
02/24/09, 11:12 PM
i guess we the kings would have been too obvious a choice.

(yea i realize this was a half ass attempt at being clever):wave:

as long as you realize :-p

fadedmemories
02/25/09, 05:32 AM
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fadedmemories
02/25/09, 05:33 AM
I kind of wish NFG had the success Blink has because they have always been far superior as well as consistent. NFG hasn't released a bad album but I can't say the same for Blink
I seem to agree with your views on the whole NFG vs Blink thing.

PenThrive
02/25/09, 06:00 AM
Green Day. they were the ones who brought it to the forefront first without selling out in the process. they actually have matured and grown up, musically and otherwise. the catalog is wide and varied. they had good roots in the punk scene and influenced a lot of bands. that's my vote and i am so baffled that they only have 7 votes. amazing.


Agreed.
Went with GD.

LongDistanceDrunk
02/25/09, 09:24 AM
New Found Glory may have released consistently good music, but that still doesn't amount to half of what blink-182 is. When you think blink-182, you don't only think about the music, you think about baggy Dickies shorts, tube socks, fart jokes, nudity and just immaturity in general. It's almost like blink-182 stand for a certain identity, while I just don't think New Found Glory have the same huge personality to match them, let alone to be crowned kings of a genre.

YOU think off all that silly stuff about Blink but I don't. I compare the music and NFG always beats out Blink in that aspect. Plus NFG ages well and many parts of Blink don't mainly all the humor,dirtiness, and many of their overplayed singles. As for the quality of music Blink's pre- Dude Ranch stuff except for a few songs is fucking garbage. All of NFG's music, including their early material, is just as good as their newer material. Popularity doesn't factor into how good a band is so that argument for Blink plain doesn't matter. Its the music that counts . Even though I still love Blink I wish they didn't reunite because they left at their peak with their best album. They can't top that so likely its all downhill from here. (NFG reference intended)

LongDistanceDrunk
02/25/09, 09:29 AM
Yeah....except Evening Out is awful. the only thing that might sound worse than that is NFG's It's All About the Girls EP. hahaha!

LOL. That is the only thing NFG has released I don't like. Everything else is golden

superichie
02/25/09, 09:36 AM
LOL. That is the only thing NFG has released I don't like. Everything else is golden

yeah its pretty awful. At times Nothing Gold Can Stay gets a little bit like that too. But its not NEARLY as bad as the first EP. hahaha!

dpetty21
02/25/09, 09:42 AM
YOU think off all that silly stuff about Blink but I don't. I compare the music and NFG always beats out Blink in that aspect. Plus NFG ages well and many parts of Blink don't mainly all the humor,dirtiness, and many of their overplayed singles. As for the quality of music Blink's pre- Dude Ranch stuff except for a few songs is fucking garbage. All of NFG's music, including their early material, is just as good as their newer material. Popularity doesn't factor into how good a band is so that argument for Blink plain doesn't matter. Its the music that counts . Even though I still love Blink I wish they didn't reunite because they left at their peak with their best album. They can't top that so likely its all downhill from here. (NFG reference intended)

So I quoted this to ask if that was on purpose. Before sending I see you actually said it was haha. I thought I caught something sneaky lol.

superichie
02/25/09, 09:57 AM
New Found Glory may have released consistently good music, but that still doesn't amount to half of what blink-182 is. When you think blink-182, you don't only think about the music, you think about baggy Dickies shorts, tube socks, fart jokes, nudity and just immaturity in general. It's almost like blink-182 stand for a certain identity, while I just don't think New Found Glory have the same huge personality to match them, let alone to be crowned kings of a genre.


Not the same huge personality? Have you listened to the hidden tracks at the end of their records? Or watched the webisodes they have been releasing to promote Not Without a Fight? Or how about the International Superheroes of Hardcore? Just because their personalities are not covered as much by MTV doesn't mean they aren't there.

NFG have also bridged the gap between hardcore punk and pop punk better than anyone else.

NFG got my vote.

LongDistanceDrunk
02/25/09, 03:45 PM
Not the same huge personality? Have you listened to the hidden tracks at the end of their records? Or watched the webisodes they have been releasing to promote Not Without a Fight? Or how about the International Superheroes of Hardcore? Just because their personalities are not covered as much by MTV doesn't mean they aren't there.

NFG have also bridged the gap between hardcore punk and pop punk better than anyone else.

NFG got my vote.
Exactly. They have a great sense of humor but it just isn't as in your face as Blink. I still find NFG funny but just get annoyed by Blinks shtick. It was funny in 9th grade but now is annoying and also ruins their live stuff . Their DVDs are pretty funny as well and I love ISHC.

Goat01
02/25/09, 03:51 PM
Each band definately has a chance to be winning this.
They've all been influential, they all have had loads of success, and they all have giant fanbases.
They're definately the four best choices, I went with Green Day though.
They've been doing it for a long time, and they've been doing it well for a long time.

AP_Punk
02/25/09, 08:30 PM
the descendents

Burn That Shit
02/25/09, 08:35 PM
the descendents

What are you, a big retarded idiot? The Descendants didn't even wear neon you big stupid moron, how are they going to be the kings of pop punk, fuckin retard.

I love you and your cat avatars.

LongDistanceDrunk
02/25/09, 09:06 PM
Each band definately has a chance to be winning this.
They've all been influential, they all have had loads of success, and they all have giant fanbases.
They're definately the four best choices, I went with Green Day though.
They've been doing it for a long time, and they've been doing it well for a long time.
Please be realistic this is AP home of the Blink 182 fanatics so obviously they will win. They won before the poll was posted and currently have 65% of the votes.

lucky#88
02/26/09, 08:45 AM
green day was first and kinda got the ball rolling...but blink took the rolling ball and kicked it across the fucking room...they redefined the genre...and that effect is still felt today so that is why they are the kings...but all of the band are good and have made thier own significant marks on pop-punk

more heart
02/26/09, 02:36 PM
FOB isn't really pop-punk nowadays.

My vote goes for NFG, no contest.

Burn That Shit
02/26/09, 02:37 PM
How much of the verse needs to be palm muted before it's considered pop punk?

showyourteeth
02/26/09, 03:16 PM
green day
i guess

just.Starla.
02/26/09, 04:34 PM
How am I supposed to vote We The Kings, if there's no 'other' option? I mean, it is in their name.
hahaha

Blink followed really close by Green Day

Ricey1828
02/26/09, 06:55 PM
NFG. Listen to Not Without a Fight and you will agree.

The Personist
02/27/09, 07:49 AM
Green Day. Most talented band on this list.

The Personist
02/27/09, 07:50 AM
How much of the verse needs to be palm muted before it's considered pop punk?

I loled.

pennie
02/27/09, 10:10 AM
nfg for me

kolby182
02/27/09, 01:27 PM
slightly appalled that FOB is beating Green Day. silly kids.

Poe-tryGirl
02/27/09, 02:07 PM
Blink-182

mapster
02/27/09, 03:17 PM
BINK 182! .i luv i miss you<3

shortone1320
02/27/09, 08:08 PM
its gotta be Blink, even though Green Day is pretty good too.

fadedmemories
02/28/09, 01:48 AM
This thread is missing Metro Station

showstopper
02/28/09, 01:45 PM
Fight ot the death between Blink-182 and Green Day.
I can't decide.I also had the same dilemma because i absolutely love both of them.Without those two bands i would have never listened to music.

showstopper
02/28/09, 01:47 PM
What's FOB doing here with the other great bands?lol.

4riddance
02/28/09, 02:04 PM
Agree....they're all great...but Green Day is the obvious choice...the word KING implies some sort of longevity.

Angel Jin
02/28/09, 09:12 PM
Green Day. While I loathe American Idiot, they've been doing this for a loooooooooooong time and I gotta respect that.

fadedmemories
03/01/09, 12:39 AM
What's FOB doing here with the other great bands?lol.
Have you been living under a rock the past 5 years?
Green Day. While I loathe American Idiot, they've been doing this for a loooooooooooong time and I gotta respect that.
Longevity does not always equal good music.

LongDistanceDrunk
03/01/09, 01:49 AM
Have you been living under a rock the past 5 years?

Longevity does not always equal good music.
Exactly. It is more prevlant it mainstream music for an artist to stay around longer than necessary. For example Vanilla Ice still puts out music and than motherfucker hasn't had a hid since '91. I had no knowledge of this until I read his Wikipedia entry.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vanilla_Ice_Is_Back!

showstopper
03/01/09, 03:13 AM
Have you been living under a rock the past 5 years?

Longevity does not always equal good music.Your brain is a rock because FOB cannot stand before the other 3 bands.

fadedmemories
03/01/09, 04:50 AM
Exactly. It is more prevlant it mainstream music for an artist to stay around longer than necessary. For example Vanilla Ice still puts out music and than motherfucker hasn't had a hid since '91. I had no knowledge of this until I read his Wikipedia entry.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vanilla_Ice_Is_Back!
:appl:
Your brain is a rock because FOB cannot stand before the other 3 bands.
And can you give a decent explanation on why?

Angel Jin
03/01/09, 11:48 AM
Longevity does not always equal good music.

as is the reason i mentioned i didn't like American Idiot.

Fall Out Boy are where they are because From Under The Cork Tree was an incredible record no matter how you spin it. Nearly everyone on this site has heard it, and hate it or love it, we've all got our favorite tracks. They don't even sound like that anymore much like that of Green Day. They manage to stay where they are in the limelight because of how publicly their bassist lives his life. Not that that's a problem, but this conversation could be taken a lot of different ways: who is the "king" in terms of livelihood in the music industry or who has the highest amount of publicity? either way, I still think that Green Day is on top with New Found Glory in a damn close second. I adore Blink-182, but NFG is the fucking shit. lol. i wouldn't even consider FOB to be in the Pop Punk hierarchy.

spansen
03/01/09, 02:44 PM
to all who voted fall out boy?.. what the fuck.

Loch_Doun
03/01/09, 03:29 PM
Park.

alexiamaria
03/01/09, 05:00 PM
though TTTYG is by far the best pop punk record of all time, i really couldnt vote for FOB on this because none of their other albums would be considered 'punk'.

showstopper
03/01/09, 11:12 PM
:appl:

And can you give a decent explanation on why?I think you do not know what pop punk is.If you want explanation it's already given by "angel jin" after your comment and i think it's useless explaining to you about pop punk.

showstopper
03/01/09, 11:26 PM
to all who voted fall out boy?.. what the fuck.Agreed.

fadedmemories
03/02/09, 02:36 AM
as is the reason i mentioned i didn't like American Idiot.

Fall Out Boy are where they are because From Under The Cork Tree was an incredible record no matter how you spin it. Nearly everyone on this site has heard it, and hate it or love it, we've all got our favorite tracks. They don't even sound like that anymore much like that of Green Day. They manage to stay where they are in the limelight because of how publicly their bassist lives his life. Not that that's a problem, but this conversation could be taken a lot of different ways: who is the "king" in terms of livelihood in the music industry or who has the highest amount of publicity? either way, I still think that Green Day is on top with New Found Glory in a damn close second. I adore Blink-182, but NFG is the fucking shit. lol. i wouldn't even consider FOB to be in the Pop Punk hierarchy.
Do you think they would have even been signed by Island in the first place if they didn't write fun, catchy, easy to relate to pop punk?

Fall Out Boy, obviously

That's because you can't accept the fact that it's no longer 2000.
I think you do not know what pop punk is.If you want explanation it's already given by "angel jin" after your comment and i think it's useless explaining to you about pop punk.
lol at your "I don't agree with you, therefore you don't know what pop punk is" post

I love how this thread is basically, me vs everyone who hates Fall Out Boy

showstopper
03/02/09, 08:51 AM
Do you think they would have even been signed by Island in the first place if they didn't write fun, catchy, easy to relate to pop punk?

Fall Out Boy, obviously

That's because you can't accept the fact that it's no longer 2000.

lol at your "I don't agree with you, therefore you don't know what pop punk is" post

I love how this thread is basically, me vs everyone who hates Fall Out BoyThe truth is when it comes to pop punk FOB does not stand a chance against the other 3 great bands.If you think you are the only one living beyond 2000 you are having schizophrenia.

blinkme
03/02/09, 11:36 AM
the love for blink182 needs to end...

and fall out boy is not the right answer, in the least bit. Descendents should be a choice.

don't be crazy.

Alex DiVincenzo
03/02/09, 08:41 PM
Love them all, but for me Blink > NFG > GD > FOB

The Personist
03/02/09, 08:54 PM
Do you think they would have even been signed by Island in the first place if they didn't write fun, catchy, easy to relate to pop punk?

Fall Out Boy, obviously

That's because you can't accept the fact that it's no longer 2000.

lol at your "I don't agree with you, therefore you don't know what pop punk is" post

I love how this thread is basically, me vs everyone who hates Fall Out Boy

I love FOB, but I chose Green Day because they're the most consistently good band of any up there.

Blink is dramatically overrated.

dpetty21
03/02/09, 09:01 PM
Do you think they would have even been signed by Island in the first place if they didn't write fun, catchy, easy to relate to pop punk?

Fall Out Boy, obviously

That's because you can't accept the fact that it's no longer 2000.

lol at your "I don't agree with you, therefore you don't know what pop punk is" post

I love how this thread is basically, me vs everyone who hates Fall Out Boy

I absolutely love Fall Out Boy but I def. wouldn't consider them the kings of pop punk. They are def. more on the pop side of the spectrum now with the punk side being tossed by the wayside. They create very great songs and I will always support them but with every new album the further they get from being kings of pop punk. I

I will agree that there are certain people out there that live in the past and refuse to like or admit to liking FOB because they want a TTTYG 2. I'd love it too but I appreciate them for what they are now.I would love to be able to see FOB in a small as club but I realize that is not gonna happen. Pete does put some people off with his limelight-ness(yep, just made that up) and I get that. It put me off for a little while there too but after reading articles on them and interviews I just can't help but love them. They are very down to earth dudes it seems and regardless of the spotlight cast upon them I will continue to listen to them.

TreyForest
03/02/09, 09:46 PM
i voted Green Day for 1 reason and 1 reason only and thats because Dookie changed everything in popular music
once that record came out is kinda when pop punk just took over the airwaves and no record has been able to cause a shift like that in popular music since then

plus its great and every record theyve realeaed is fucking good

blink was a close second but cause Dude Ranch (a killer descendents style pop punk record ) came 3 years after dookie, i gotta say green day

showstopper
03/02/09, 10:45 PM
I love FOB, but I chose Green Day because they're the most consistently good band of any up there.

Blink is dramatically overrated.I agree with you that green day is a great band but no way blink is over rated.First listen to their albums , then you will realise what a great band they are.

showstopper
03/02/09, 10:50 PM
I absolutely love Fall Out Boy but I def. wouldn't consider them the kings of pop punk. They are def. more on the pop side of the spectrum now with the punk side being tossed by the wayside. They create very great songs and I will always support them but with every new album the further they get from being kings of pop punk. I

I will agree that there are certain people out there that live in the past and refuse to like or admit to liking FOB because they want a TTTYG 2. I'd love it too but I appreciate them for what they are now.I would love to be able to see FOB in a small as club but I realize that is not gonna happen. Pete does put some people off with his limelight-ness(yep, just made that up) and I get that. It put me off for a little while there too but after reading articles on them and interviews I just can't help but love them. They are very down to earth dudes it seems and regardless of the spotlight cast upon them I will continue to listen to them.What you said about FOB is correct.FOB are too much poppy these days so only i am saying they can't be kings of pop punk.But many guys don't agree with that and they forget that this thread is about kings of pop punk and not about kings of pop.

The Personist
03/02/09, 10:50 PM
I agree with you that green day is a great band but no way blink is over rated.First listen to their albums , then you will realise what a great band they are.

I've listened, and I don't understand what's so incredibly amazing. They're good, yes, but they're not as godly as everyone presumes. I think Green Day write better songs, better lyrics, and--with the exception of Tre, who could never drum like Travis--are better instrumentalists. Green Day also grew as a band over their career, while Blink sort of dithered about until TOYPAJ and S/T, in my opinion. Green Day also still has an appeal as you grow older, while Blink is more of a "moment in time" band, for me. I can identify more with Billy Joe's angsty, uncertain lyrics than I can the blow job jokes of Blink.

showstopper
03/02/09, 10:57 PM
I've listened, and I don't understand what's so incredibly amazing. They're good, yes, but they're not as godly as everyone presumes. I think Green Day write better songs, better lyrics, and--with the exception of Tre, who could never drum like Travis--are better instrumentalists. Green Day also grew as a band over their career, while Blink sort of dithered about until TOYPAJ and S/T, in my opinion. Green Day also still has an appeal as you grow older, while Blink is more of a "moment in time" band, for me. I can identify more with Billy Joe's angsty, uncertain lyrics than I can the blow job jokes of Blink.It's right dude that green day have been giving their fans quality pop punk over the years and they brought the genre it's glory days.I am also a die hard fan of green day but blink are kings in their own way because they made good funny pop punk and i always had both the bands in number one position.But blink is no way over rated.

phil19
03/02/09, 11:02 PM
ive never really gotten into green day, i was always more of a blink fan. until i heard new found glory. to me, they're the best pop punk band on that list. they keep churning out quality pop punk with each new album. just check out their latest if you have any doubts

fadedmemories
03/03/09, 01:13 AM
The truth is when it comes to pop punk FOB does not stand a chance against the other 3 great bands.If you think you are the only one living beyond 2000 you are having schizophrenia.
You completely missed the point of my post.
I love FOB, but I chose Green Day because they're the most consistently good band of any up there.
Fair enough. I respect your opinion.

Blink is dramatically overrated.
Indeed
I agree with you that green day is a great band but no way blink is over rated.First listen to their albums , then you will realise what a great band they are.
Overrated at best.
ive never really gotten into green day, i was always more of a blink fan. until i heard new found glory. to me, they're the best pop punk band on that list. they keep churning out quality pop punk with each new album. just check out their latest if you have any doubts
You've only recently found out about NFG? How could this be?

theguy77
03/03/09, 01:19 AM
hahaha fucking none of those

phil19
03/03/09, 01:22 AM
You've only recently found out about NFG? How could this be?

haha no man. i meant that blink were better to me until i got into nfg years ago. many years ago. i was just into blink first. but once i got into nfg i liked them better

showstopper
03/03/09, 01:22 AM
You completely missed the point of my post.
Fair enough. I respect your opinion.

Indeed

Overrated at best.

You've only recently found out about NFG? How could this be?There you go again,do you think people will accept as the kings of pop punk?They might be kings of pop but not pop punk.TTTYG had punk in it but nowadays they are too much poppy.

fadedmemories
03/03/09, 01:29 AM
hahaha fucking none of those
Then who?

fadedmemories
03/03/09, 01:30 AM
haha no man. i meant that blink were better to me until i got into nfg years ago. many years ago. i was just into blink first. but once i got into nfg i liked them better
Oh I see. Fair enough.
There you go again,do you think people will accept as the kings of pop punk?They might be kings of pop but not pop punk.TTTYG had punk in it but nowadays they are too much poppy.
No I do not think they will be accepted as "kings" of pop punk. To be quite honest, the band probably doesn't give a damn where the are in the pop punk hierarchy. What I can't stand are posts like "What's FOB doing here with the other great bands?lol." and "FOB cannot stand before the other 3 bands".

showstopper
03/03/09, 01:39 AM
Oh I see. Fair enough.

No I do not think they will be accepted as "kings" of pop punk. To be quite honest, the band probably doesn't give a damn where the are in the pop punk hierarchy. What I can't stand are posts like "What's FOB doing here with the other great bands?lol." and "FOB cannot stand before the other 3 bands".Whatever hierachy the band cares,i don't care about.What point you missed from the start is that this thread is about kings of pop punk and so FOB cannot stand against the other 3 bands which play pop punk.I can't explain clearly than this.

flyeast
03/03/09, 01:50 AM
YOU think off all that silly stuff about Blink but I don't. I compare the music and NFG always beats out Blink in that aspect. Plus NFG ages well and many parts of Blink don't mainly all the humor,dirtiness, and many of their overplayed singles. As for the quality of music Blink's pre- Dude Ranch stuff except for a few songs is fucking garbage. All of NFG's music, including their early material, is just as good as their newer material. Popularity doesn't factor into how good a band is so that argument for Blink plain doesn't matter. Its the music that counts . Even though I still love Blink I wish they didn't reunite because they left at their peak with their best album. They can't top that so likely its all downhill from here. (NFG reference intended)
Um, I really don't know if there is anything in this paragraph that I can reply to constructively - all I can say is, I disagree, I like blink-182 better than New Found Glory. I really can't say anything else without providing as bone-dry an argument as you did just here. I said nothing about popularity, so I have no idea where you pulled that argument out from, and you can't state that a band "can't top" their previous album with no evidence whatsoever.

Exactly. They have a great sense of humor but it just isn't as in your face as Blink. I still find NFG funny but just get annoyed by Blinks shtick. It was funny in 9th grade but now is annoying and also ruins their live stuff . Their DVDs are pretty funny as well and I love ISHC.
You pretty much just proved my point right there. I never denied New Found Glory's possession of a sense of humour, but there's a difference between being funny and having a big personality. To be right in everyone's face is the definition of big personality.

fadedmemories
03/03/09, 01:55 AM
Whatever hierachy the band cares,i don't care about.What point you missed from the start is that this thread is about kings of pop punk and so FOB cannot stand against the other 3 bands which play pop punk.I can't explain clearly than this.
and can you please give me a decent explanation, not another "they haven't been pop punk since TTYG" post

showstopper
03/03/09, 03:53 AM
and can you please give me a decent explanation, not another "they haven't been pop punk since TTYG" postIt's like speaking to a deaf person and i am not ready to further answer your useless questions.Good bye.

fadedmemories
03/03/09, 01:14 PM
It's like speaking to a deaf person and i am not ready to further answer your useless questions.Good bye.
:hitself:

showstopper
03/04/09, 02:14 AM
:hitself:lol

fadedmemories
03/04/09, 04:31 AM
lol
Whatever

SmileOfHavok
03/04/09, 09:46 AM
Green Day no question about it. Dookie was certified diamond (10x platinum), Insomniac 3x platinum, Nimrod 2x, Warning platinum, and American Idiot 6x (thanks billboard.com!). They've been around for 20+ years and are still relevant in today's music scene! A few years ago I would have said Blink-182, but their popularity faded away sadly because of the hiatus. As for NFG, I love em to death but no way were they ever the top pop-punk band around (and sadly won't ever get to be. The general public doesn't keep up with them. Why? I'll never figure it out). Blink's got a chance to make a huge comeback though. Fingers crossed for these three bands to stay awesome.

Can anyone really say that Fall Out Boy were really "at the top of the pop-punk scene"? They're definitely more of a pop band ever since Cork Tree and have only gotten poppier since. When you've got Lil Wayne on your album, you know something's up. Even so, when Cork Tree was out...I always felt they were overshadowed by American Idiot.

hf57
03/04/09, 12:49 PM
blink for sure

CarouselBoy
03/04/09, 12:53 PM
i voted for blink, but it's really between them and green day and to vote otherwise is just ignorant IMO

smelltheglove
03/04/09, 01:44 PM
NFG. I've been satisfied with every album they've put out, regardless of their change in direction. They've survived life after a major label, and kept their credit. I'll always love them.

I feel like Blink 182 WERE the kings, and FOB have become a full on pop act rather than a pop punk band. Green Day has also moved on to create more "rock" oriented albums than pop punk.

yea, i'll second this. Sure, Green Day deserve their credit, they influenced a whole generation of kids to start bands and 1992's "kerplunk!" and 1994's "dookie" are absolutely essential pop-punk albums. But they moved further away from pop-punk with each album since "dookie" and really, calling them a "pop-punk" band after the year 2000 just doens't make sense. But they certainly sealed their importance to the sub-genre with "dookie"

Blink182 only made 4 pop-punk albums, their 5th self-titled album was clearly not pop-punk and they haven't put out a pop-punk album in 8 years and obviuosly didn't do shit for the past 4 years. So no, they are not the kings of pop-punk, but they deserve their credit as well. Like Green Day before them, Blink's 1999 album "enema of the state" is completely essential pop-punk and influenced a new generation of high-school kids to start like-minded bands.

Fall Out Boy. Please. They made 2 pop-punk albums. Then they went more of an overproduced pop-emo sound on "infinity on high" and their new album went even further away from pop-punk. out of these 4 choices, i'd put them last. of course "TTTYG" is a completely essential pop-punk album.

NFG are the kings. They've made 6 excellent albums, all of which could be categorized as pop-punk with the exception of "coming home". They are clearly the biggest influence on today's pop-punk scene, look no further than set your goals, the wonder years, four year strong, hit the lights and all time low to hear their influence. These bands ape NFG to a "t". These bands clearly worshipped "sticks and stones".

NFG may never have reached the main-stream appeal of Green Day, Blink or FOB, but they are the most influential on today's pop-punk scene and they are the only band out of that 4 that have remained true to their roots for their career adn are the only one that has made a viable pop-punk album in the past 5 or 6 years. "not without a fight" in my opinion, puts them right back on top.

blaze7755
03/04/09, 02:46 PM
Green Day are the elder statesmen of pop punk, as one site rightly put it. I voted for Green Day.

blaze7755
03/04/09, 02:47 PM
nfg is not mainstream at all. how did they influence pop punk bands? pop punk is almost all mainstream.

ManicanParty49
03/04/09, 03:45 PM
Blink 182 > New Found Glory > Fall Out Boy > Greenday

Just my opinion of what order I believe they should be in.

SeanEBoy2686
03/04/09, 03:48 PM
if it's based on who I like then it'd be blink or NFG, depending on the day. if it's based on position in the genre it's blink or green day.

phil19
03/04/09, 04:11 PM
yea, i'll second this. Sure, Green Day deserve their credit, they influenced a whole generation of kids to start bands and 1992's "kerplunk!" and 1994's "dookie" are absolutely essential pop-punk albums. But they moved further away from pop-punk with each album since "dookie" and really, calling them a "pop-punk" band after the year 2000 just doens't make sense. But they certainly sealed their importance to the sub-genre with "dookie"

Blink182 only made 4 pop-punk albums, their 5th self-titled album was clearly not pop-punk and they haven't put out a pop-punk album in 8 years and obviuosly didn't do shit for the past 4 years. So no, they are not the kings of pop-punk, but they deserve their credit as well. Like Green Day before them, Blink's 1999 album "enema of the state" is completely essential pop-punk and influenced a new generation of high-school kids to start like-minded bands.

Fall Out Boy. Please. They made 2 pop-punk albums. Then they went more of an overproduced pop-emo sound on "infinity on high" and their new album went even further away from pop-punk. out of these 4 choices, i'd put them last. of course "TTTYG" is a completely essential pop-punk album.

NFG are the kings. They've made 6 excellent albums, all of which could be categorized as pop-punk with the exception of "coming home". They are clearly the biggest influence on today's pop-punk scene, look no further than set your goals, the wonder years, four year strong, hit the lights and all time low to hear their influence. These bands ape NFG to a "t". These bands clearly worshipped "sticks and stones".

NFG may never have reached the main-stream appeal of Green Day, Blink or FOB, but they are the most influential on today's pop-punk scene and they are the only band out of that 4 that have remained true to their roots for their career adn are the only one that has made a viable pop-punk album in the past 5 or 6 years. "not without a fight" in my opinion, puts them right back on top.

i would agree with everything youve just said.

S9Dallasoz
03/04/09, 06:46 PM
It WAS Blink, but they got lazy. They can still take it back though.

I'm also disapointed in the new Green Day single. It was stupid of me to expect American Idiot.

If you mean "21st century breakdown" the song, it's not the single..."Know your enemy" may be floating around soon though.

sainttw
03/04/09, 08:58 PM
..and out come the bias. There legit is NO argument whatsoever that blink or nfg(are you fuckin serious?!) are kings of pop punk. Green Day brought it to the mainstream where it stayed. They constantly are revolutionizing the genre and have more times then blink. Not to mention there longevity. This poll is bunk because of the ignorant bias on this site

blaze7755
03/04/09, 10:15 PM
^That.

mattTLTT
03/04/09, 11:30 PM
I think MxPx and Saves the day should be getting more play in this thread.

pennie
03/05/09, 06:58 AM
..and out come the bias. There legit is NO argument whatsoever that blink or nfg(are you fuckin serious?!) are kings of pop punk. Green Day brought it to the mainstream where it stayed. They constantly are revolutionizing the genre and have more times then blink. Not to mention there longevity. This poll is bunk because of the ignorant bias on this site

*than



I liked the rancid zing.After that,you jusut rambled. Sounds like you aren't happy with the views of people on this site? Maybe it's not for you?

batmannj
03/05/09, 07:14 AM
My favorite is by far NFG followed by Fall Out Boy, but look at the reaction that Blink got when they reunited. While they are not my fave, they are most definitely kings of the genre who have come back to claim their throne.

smelltheglove
03/05/09, 07:32 AM
I think MxPx and Saves the day should be getting more play in this thread.

well..saves the day haven't been a pop-punk band since 2000. Their first 2 albums were pop-punk but from "stay what you are" to today, I would not describe their sound as pop-punk. But "through being cool" is easily one of the 5 best pop-punk albums ever IMHO.

MxPx..yea, they probably deserve to be in this thread moreso than FOB does. they certainly are a career pop-punk band and have been at it for 15 years now.

But most MxPx albums are pretty inconsistent, that's always been my biggest complaint with them, I love them, but they haven't made a strong album from start to finish in over 10 years. there's always like 3 or 4 great songs on an MxPx album and then 4 or 5 that just suck or are fliller.

I love songs from all their albums, including 'secret weapon', but they haven't made an album that blew me away in a long, long time. i got into them in 1997 ("life in general") and I still think it's probably their best album and only album that is strong all the way through.

smelltheglove
03/05/09, 07:33 AM
attn teenagers: stfu

showstopper
03/05/09, 08:04 AM
yea, i'll second this. Sure, Green Day deserve their credit, they influenced a whole generation of kids to start bands and 1992's "kerplunk!" and 1994's "dookie" are absolutely essential pop-punk albums. But they moved further away from pop-punk with each album since "dookie" and really, calling them a "pop-punk" band after the year 2000 just doens't make sense. But they certainly sealed their importance to the sub-genre with "dookie"

Blink182 only made 4 pop-punk albums, their 5th self-titled album was clearly not pop-punk and they haven't put out a pop-punk album in 8 years and obviuosly didn't do shit for the past 4 years. So no, they are not the kings of pop-punk, but they deserve their credit as well. Like Green Day before them, Blink's 1999 album "enema of the state" is completely essential pop-punk and influenced a new generation of high-school kids to start like-minded bands.

Fall Out Boy. Please. They made 2 pop-punk albums. Then they went more of an overproduced pop-emo sound on "infinity on high" and their new album went even further away from pop-punk. out of these 4 choices, i'd put them last. of course "TTTYG" is a completely essential pop-punk album.

NFG are the kings. They've made 6 excellent albums, all of which could be categorized as pop-punk with the exception of "coming home". They are clearly the biggest influence on today's pop-punk scene, look no further than set your goals, the wonder years, four year strong, hit the lights and all time low to hear their influence. These bands ape NFG to a "t". These bands clearly worshipped "sticks and stones".

NFG may never have reached the main-stream appeal of Green Day, Blink or FOB, but they are the most influential on today's pop-punk scene and they are the only band out of that 4 that have remained true to their roots for their career adn are the only one that has made a viable pop-punk album in the past 5 or 6 years. "not without a fight" in my opinion, puts them right back on top.I agree with your comment because it's clearly the best comment on this thread but still blink's album are better than NFG and have seen many bands saying as their influence than NFG.Even ATL have said that without blink they would have never been a band.NFG played pure pop punk in all their albums but blink with the exception of their self titled had made pop punk in all their albums which are definitely better than NFG.So blink are definitely kings of pop punk.

showstopper
03/05/09, 08:05 AM
My favorite is by far NFG followed by Fall Out Boy, but look at the reaction that Blink got when they reunited. While they are not my fave, they are most definitely kings of the genre who have come back to claim their throne.Well said and this poll results shows blink far ahead than the other bands.

smelltheglove
03/05/09, 08:28 AM
I agree with your comment because it's clearly the best comment on this thread but still blink's album are better than NFG and have seen many bands saying as their influence than NFG.Even ATL have said that without blink they would have never been a band.NFG played pure pop punk in all their albums but blink with the exception of their self titled had made pop punk in all their albums which are definitely better than NFG.So blink are definitely kings of pop punk.

...but just to play devils advocate, ATL named thier band after the NFG song "head on collision", specifically, the lyric "and it feeeels like...i'm at an all time low..."

but yea, i've also heard ATL say Blink was why they started their band in 9th grade, 1999 or whatever

and Blink took NFG on tour with them Summer 2001, which was probably NFG's biggest break of their career, playing to 10,000 people a night, opening for Blink at the height of their popularity.

really, i think an argument could be made for NFG, Blink or Green Day.

As long as non one tries to argue FOB, i'm open to other opinions.

but i must disagree on one point, while I do enjoy "enema of the state" quite a bit, I think NFG "sticks and stones" is better than any Blink album.

showstopper
03/05/09, 08:36 AM
...but just to play devils advocate, ATL named thier band after the NFG song "head on collision", specifically, the lyric "and it feeeels like...i'm at an all time low..."

but yea, i've also heard ATL say Blink was why they started their band in 9th grade, 1999 or whatever

and Blink took NFG on tour with them Summer 2001, which was probably NFG's biggest break of their career, playing to 10,000 people a night, opening for Blink at the height of their popularity.

really, i think an argument could be made for NFG, Blink or Green Day.

As long as non one tries to argue FOB, i'm open to other opinions.

but i must disagree on one point, while I do enjoy "enema of the state" quite a bit, I think NFG "sticks and stones" is better than any Blink album.Yes your argument is reasonable and "sticks and stones" is such a wonderful album,i like every song in it.But i feel overall blink albums are better than NFG.As for FOB i am one of those guys who said they should not be on this thread and had an extensive argument with another user against FOB.

UnderMyDreams
03/05/09, 08:47 AM
It WAS Blink, but they got lazy. They can still take it back though.

I'm also disapointed in the new Green Day single. It was stupid of me to expect American Idiot.

they got... lazy?

You mean they broke up? I mean really... What about them became lazy... Ever?

hcky0819
03/08/09, 08:36 AM
It has to be FOB. I mean, it used to be Blink, and before that Green Day. Blink has to reclaim it for they have been away to long and Green Day have crossed over to modern rock. FOB is the current Kings of Pop Punk.

harley7733
03/08/09, 01:04 PM
there would be know blink without green day, i like blink more but lets not be silly kids, green day is the answer.

harley7733
03/08/09, 01:07 PM
honestly this is how it should go, in order of who did it first...

green day
blink
NFG
FOB

Nick Le
03/08/09, 02:02 PM
How am I supposed to vote We The Kings, if there's no 'other' option? I mean, it is in their name.

Hahaha.

fadedmemories
03/09/09, 12:21 AM
I think MxPx and Saves the day should be getting more play in this thread.
This.
My favorite is by far NFG followed by Fall Out Boy, but look at the reaction that Blink got when they reunited. While they are not my fave, they are most definitely kings of the genre who have come back to claim their throne.
In my opinion, it's been all downhill for them since Dude Ranch.

Fall Out Boy. Please. They made 2 pop-punk albums. Then they went more of an overproduced pop-emo sound on "infinity on high" and their new album went even further away from pop-punk. out of these 4 choices, i'd put them last. of course "TTTYG" is a completely essential pop-punk album.
Blink's S/T was farther away from pop punk than IOH and just as far as FAD

NFG are the kings. They've made 6 excellent albums, all of which could be categorized as pop-punk with the exception of "coming home". They are clearly the biggest influence on today's pop-punk scene, look no further than set your goals, the wonder years, four year strong, hit the lights and all time low to hear their influence. These bands ape NFG to a "t". These bands clearly worshipped "sticks and stones".

NFG may never have reached the main-stream appeal of Green Day, Blink or FOB, but they are the most influential on today's pop-punk scene and they are the only band out of that 4 that have remained true to their roots for their career adn are the only one that has made a viable pop-punk album in the past 5 or 6 years. "not without a fight" in my opinion, puts them right back on top.
I do agree with this though.

Can anyone really say that Fall Out Boy were really "at the top of the pop-punk scene"? They're definitely more of a pop band ever since Cork Tree and have only gotten poppier since. When you've got Lil Wayne on your album, you know something's up. Even so, when Cork Tree was out...I always felt they were overshadowed by American Idiot.
FOB's popularity has soared since FUCT, no pop punk band has been as consistent in producing hit like they have been the past 4 years (Sugar We're Going Down, Dance Dance, Thnks Fr Th Mmrs, The Takeover The Break's Over and Beat It)

Green Day's peak is still Dookie

mestupkid9889
03/09/09, 07:57 AM
NFG are the kings. They've made 6 excellent albums, all of which could be categorized as pop-punk with the exception of "coming home". They are clearly the biggest influence on today's pop-punk scene, look no further than set your goals, the wonder years, four year strong, hit the lights and all time low to hear their influence. These bands ape NFG to a "t". These bands clearly worshipped "sticks and stones".

This

Homegrown close second just because their cd "Kings of Pop"

NewFoundAndrew
03/09/09, 10:14 AM
My all time fav bands...it's hard for me to choose

jawstheme
03/09/09, 11:33 AM
Was there a point to this poll? Were you not expecting Blink to win?

PopPunkKid
03/09/09, 01:02 PM
Hard to say, because:

1994-1998: Green Day (Dookie, Insomniac, Nimrod)
1999-2004: blink-182 (Enema, TOYPAJ, self titled)
2005-2008: Fall Out Boy (FUCT, IoH, FAD)


And NFG is a band that's kinda always been there. Their popularity obviously peaked in 2002-2004 during the "Good Charlotte era" of pop-punk, but they've managed to stay at least somewhat relevant for pretty much their entire existence as a band, which says alot.

Some people predict the next "kings" of pop-punk will be All Time Low... god I hope not.

PopPunkKid
03/09/09, 01:13 PM
I love FOB, but I chose Green Day because they're the most consistently good band of any up there.

Blink is dramatically overrated.


Very true. I do love blink, but they most definetly get more attention than they deserve. When I listen to their albums now, I don't think any of them (except for self-titled) hold up against FOB. FOB really know how to craft great songs, make each track sound UNIQUE, and not make the listener say "wait didn't I just hear this"? I can't really say the same about the other 3 bands on this poll, no matter how much I enjoy them all, and that's why I voted for FOB.

MontanaFromNY
03/09/09, 02:47 PM
Id say the movielife would be a better choice then all of these, based on This Time Next Year

MontanaFromNY
03/09/09, 02:50 PM
i also agree that blink is on the over rated side and the other bands on this poll have no chance against them on this site

MyNameIsRoss
03/09/09, 09:02 PM
none of these bands are the "kings of pop punk".

fadedmemories
03/09/09, 09:05 PM
Some people predict the next "kings" of pop-punk will be All Time Low... god I hope not.
I have a feeling they'll be more like NFG (meaning they won't completely cross over to the mainstream) than Blink or FOB.

PopPunkKid
03/09/09, 09:59 PM
I have a feeling they'll be more like NFG (meaning they won't completely cross over to the mainstream) than Blink or FOB.


I really hope so.

fadedmemories
03/09/09, 10:10 PM
I really hope so.
:ok:

Gumbyjag
03/10/09, 12:31 AM
Green Day

SmileOfHavok
03/11/09, 07:38 PM
This.

In my opinion, it's been all downhill for them since Dude Ranch.

Blink's S/T was farther away from pop punk than IOH and just as far as FAD

I do agree with this though.

FOB's popularity has soared since FUCT, no pop punk band has been as consistent in producing hit like they have been the past 4 years (Sugar We're Going Down, Dance Dance, Thnks Fr Th Mmrs, The Takeover The Break's Over and Beat It)

Green Day's peak is still Dookie

Well, thats your opinion on Blink. Enema and ToYPAJ, I thought were musically superior to Dude Ranch, plus their sales compared to Dude Ranch speak about Blink's success. Sure, FOB's popularity HAS risen, but their peak was FUCT...which was still overshadowed by American Idiot, which like you pointed out...was NOT Green Day's peak even! AI sold a lot more copies, plus won the grammy awards to prove the success. Its cool if you wanna disagree, its just your opinion. The awards, the sales, and the fans (look @ the Milton Keynes show) support and prove my point.

fadedmemories
03/11/09, 11:28 PM
Well, thats your opinion on Blink. Enema and ToYPAJ, I thought were musically superior to Dude Ranch, plus their sales compared to Dude Ranch speak about Blink's success.

1. Musically superior? What the fuck have you been smoking?

2. Just because Enema and TOYPAJ sold way more than Dude Ranch doesn't mean it's any better.

Sure, FOB's popularity HAS risen, but their peak was FUCT...which was still overshadowed by American Idiot, which like you pointed out...was NOT Green Day's peak even! 3. American Idiot was released late 2004. FUCT came out mid 2005. Sugar We're Going Down was far bigger than any of the 5 singles released from AI.

AI sold a lot more copies, plus won the grammy awards to prove the success. Its cool if you wanna disagree, its just your opinion.

4. Even Nickelback and Britney Spears have won Grammys.

The awards, the sales, and the fans (look @ the Milton Keynes show) support and prove my point.
5. See nos. 3 and 4.

mutualaddiction
03/12/09, 09:24 AM
Park.

ha, awesome.

I wouldn't necessarily say kings of pop punk, more like the kings of music in general.

SmileOfHavok
03/12/09, 10:27 AM
1. Musically superior? What the fuck have you been smoking?

I haven't been smoking anything. They ARE musically superior. Barker's drum beats > Raynor's any day. (blah blah blah, Travis Barker is overrated. cry cry, bitch bitch. If thats your response, its your own fucking opinion kid. A pretty unpopular opinion too if it is)


2. Just because Enema and TOYPAJ sold way more than Dude Ranch doesn't mean it's any better.

Its called an opinion you little fuck. Ask most of the people on this site, most will agree with me that Barker is better than Raynor. Mark and Tom didn't change too much as musicians. There's another poll somewhere on ap.net on favorite blink albums. Enema,ToYPAJ, AND Blink-182 are beating Dude Ranch in that poll. The general public supports my thesis because the singles were HUGE off of those three albums. Everyone had them. AP.net is a reliable source too, I've never seen so many Blink fans in one site post-hiatus. They're hardcore about Mark, Tom, and Travis and I think their opinions on which Blink album rocks most really counts for something. So again, I'm supporting my opinion rather than talking out of my ass.


3. American Idiot was released late 2004. FUCT came out mid 2005. Sugar We're Going Down was far bigger than any of the 5 singles released from AI.

Again you're talking out of your ass. Sugar We're Going Down was "not far bigger than any of the singles released from AI", in fact it didn't beat Boulevard of Broken Dreams OR Wake Me Up When September Ends. Whether or not you liked those songs doesn't build you a valid argument. The fact that they charted higher on the Billboard 100 than Sugar We're Going Down proves your argument wrong (thanks billboard.com!).


4. Even Nickelback and Britney Spears have won Grammys.

We're discussing strictly rock music. Nickelback has never won a grammy in their career (god you just love making shit up). As far Britney Spears goes, she is a heavy weight in pop music whether we like her or not. I'm not a fan.


5. See nos. 3 and 4.

I do see no. 3 and 4, and I still don't see how you can stick to your argument when I have concrete proof and logic behind why Green Day walks all over Fall Out Boy any day. Dude, if you love Fall Out Boy, thats fine. It really doesn't affect my life. I'm just not a fan. But...If you're gonna argue with someone, at least be able to back it up and not make stuff up.

Say Nothing
03/12/09, 11:10 AM
...haha wonder who wins this

fadedmemories
03/12/09, 02:50 PM
I haven't been smoking anything. They ARE musically superior. Barker's drum beats > Raynor's any day. (blah blah blah, Travis Barker is overrated. cry cry, bitch bitch. If thats your response, its your own fucking opinion kid. A pretty unpopular opinion too if it is)
Barker is good, but extremely overrated. I was talking more about song structures and guitarplaying. They did the same thing for three albums.

And given up trying to defend Green Day?

Its called an opinion you little fuck. Ask most of the people on this site, most will agree with me that Barker is better than Raynor. Mark and Tom didn't change too much as musicians. There's another poll somewhere on ap.net on favorite blink albums. Enema,ToYPAJ, AND Blink-182 are beating Dude Ranch in that poll. The general public supports my thesis because the singles were HUGE off of those three albums. Everyone had them. AP.net is a reliable source too, I've never seen so many Blink fans in one site post-hiatus. They're hardcore about Mark, Tom, and Travis and I think their opinions on which Blink album rocks most really counts for something. So again, I'm supporting my opinion rather than talking out of my ass.
This coming from someone who doesn't respect any other opinion contradicting his own.

I agree with the fact that Barker is better than Raynor, but does that make the Enema and TOYPAJ era blink better than Dude Ranch? Nope

Ever wondered why most of those "hardcore fans" are aged 16-19? Are you seriously telling me most of those "hardcore fans" have been listening to Blink since they were 7? Fuck off.
Enema, TOYPAJ and S/T were released after Dude Ranch, therefore it is much more accesible to the younger generation (those like me who started listening to music around the early 2000's)

Again you're talking out of your ass. Sugar We're Going Down was "not far bigger than any of the singles released from AI", in fact it didn't beat Boulevard of Broken Dreams OR Wake Me Up When September Ends. Whether or not you liked those songs doesn't build you a valid argument. The fact that they charted higher on the Billboard 100 than Sugar We're Going Down proves your argument wrong (thanks billboard.com!).
I'm not sure where Billboard gets their shit, but Sugar had more airtime on MTV, radio and internet radio.

We're discussing strictly rock music. Nickelback has never won a grammy in their career (god you just love making shit up). As far Britney Spears goes, she is a heavy weight in pop music whether we like her or not. I'm not a fan.
I was being sarcastic with Nickelback, but you can't be serious about Britney deserving a Grammy (or any other award). If they gave her a Grammy, might as well give Katy Perry and the cast of High School Musical a Grammy as well.

I do see no. 3 and 4, and I still don't see how you can stick to your argument when I have concrete proof and logic behind why Green Day walks all over Fall Out Boy any day. Dude, if you love Fall Out Boy, thats fine. It really doesn't affect my life. I'm just not a fan. But...If you're gonna argue with someone, at least be able to back it up and not make stuff up.
I love Fall Out Boy, what I can't stand is stupid statements like " I have concrete proof and logic behind why Green Day walks all over Fall Out Boy any day." Seriously, how can you still like a band that last released a good album 15 years ago and who totally changed their sound and image to sell records?

nashiscash1324
03/12/09, 04:28 PM
NFG>blink>GD>FOB

em91011
03/25/09, 01:51 PM
It would be blink-182 if they were still together, then Green Day if they had released an album recently, but currently Fall Out Boy. It'll probably change soon.

nickthehick2
03/26/09, 08:34 AM
Motion City Soundtrack, where is it!?

DaveZeroZero
03/26/09, 09:27 AM
I vote blink. That wasn't really very hard.

xjulianx89
03/26/09, 10:15 AM
Whenever I think of Pop-Punk, I think of blink-182. They haven't made an album that I haven't liked. Their s/t is better than anything I've heard from Green Day, Fall Out Boy, or New Found Glory (am I going to get flamed for that?).

flks511
04/01/09, 04:44 PM
Green Day.....................obviously

KoRnholio198
05/30/10, 07:39 AM
You should of included Homegrown in the options