Zen Sleek (20gig) Vs. Ipod (20 gig)

[allelish]

I'm gonna be getting one of these two soon hopefully. I wanted to know which one you reckon i should go for. I'm leaning toward the Zen at the moment (there is the zen one http://www.play.com/play247.asp?pa=search&searchtype=allproducts&searchstring=zen+sleek&page=search ), but i'd appreciate your input.

[WakingTheMisery]

i have an older zen that i live by.

[punkpixie]

Hmmm I don't know Fran, I looove my ipod to death and I don't know where I would be without it, but that Zen thing looks pretty good too. Whats the price difference though?

[allelish]

I think the zen is a good £20 cheaper, but it isn't just that. I've heard alot of stories of peoples fucked up ipod's...and i can just put all my music on my WMP onto the zen like that (clicks fingers)

[Speyside]

I think the zen is a good £20 cheaper, but it isn't just that. I've heard alot of stories of peoples fucked up ipod's...and i can just put all my music on my WMP onto the zen like that (clicks fingers)
It sounds like you've already made up your mind.

[punkpixie]

Yeah I suppose. I've never had any problems with my ipod though I've got to say. Don't forget that all Ipods come with colour screens now though, if thats something you care about?

[allelish]

It sounds like you've already made up your mind.Almost, but i just wanna see if anyone has had any problems with their zen or anything, and what the general concensus is.

Yeah I suppose. I've never had any problems with my ipod though I've got to say. Don't forget that all Ipods come with colour screens now though, if thats something you care about?not at all haha.

[Slurps]

i love my 20 gig photo/color and i would never change my decission on what mp3 player i should have gotten

[punkpixie]

i love my 20 gig photo/color and i would never change my decission on what mp3 player i should have gotten
Me neither.

[Speyside]

I just broke my 30GB iPod by slamming into a table with it in my pocket, but I just ordered a 60GB to replace it. Be on the lookout though, everyone expects apple to be releasing new iPods (probably video ones) this Wednesday, the 12th.

[HolyCrapola]

I don't know a Zen Sleek is, however, I do know that iPods totally suck and delete songs whenever they feel like doing so. The battery life on iPods sucks as well too. I would strongly advise you to buy anything other than the iPod.

[notetoxself]

both I like but I prefer my 40Gig Ipod that I got for 250 from a friend with a remote and also a docking station for charging and for transfering music and a remote.

[Slurps]

I don't know a Zen Sleek is, however, I do know that iPods totally suck and delete songs whenever they feel like doing so. The battery life on iPods sucks as well too. I would strongly advise you to buy anything other than the iPod.
im gunnna have to disagree with you all around..... has that ever happened to you if so what kind

[MLLMillenium]

I wont go near Zen's after all the trouble my friends and GF have had with them. I stick to apple.

[HolyCrapola]

im gunnna have to disagree with you all around..... has that ever happened to you if so what kind Well, you'd have to disagree with my sister, my cousin, my friend John and my friend Jodie as well. Because all of us have had our songs deleted on more then one occasion and I actually threw mine through my bedroom wall because I was so frustrated with it. The battery life on iPods is absolutely horrible as well, and getting a new one costs a ridiculous amount.

I worked my ass off to get the money to buy that thing, and it was a total and utter dissapointment and I regret ever stepping foot in the Apple store.

[punkpixie]

I've never had a problem with mine and i've had it since December.

[Slurps]

ive only had mine since august

Well, you'd have to disagree with my sister, my cousin, my friend John and my friend Jodie as well. Because all of us have had our songs deleted on more then one occasion and I actually threw mine through my bedroom wall because I was so frustrated with it. The battery life on iPods is absolutely horrible as well, and getting a new one costs a ridiculous amount.

I worked my ass off to get the money to buy that thing, and it was a total and utter dissapointment and I regret ever stepping foot in the Apple store.

well maybe you shouldnt throw it against your wall and try to figure whats wrong with it.... and you never said what kind you have

[Talib Scottie]

As long as you don't use itunes. If you get the iPod, use winamp, my roomate has had so much trouble with itunes. Zen doesn't have as much support but I love my Nomad, plus it's cheaper.

[MLLMillenium]

Well, you'd have to disagree with my sister, my cousin, my friend John and my friend Jodie as well. Because all of us have had our songs deleted on more then one occasion and I actually threw mine through my bedroom wall because I was so frustrated with it. The battery life on iPods is absolutely horrible as well, and getting a new one costs a ridiculous amount.

I worked my ass off to get the money to buy that thing, and it was a total and utter dissapointment and I regret ever stepping foot in the Apple store. That's because people are too retarded not to change their iTunes setteing or keep Auto update off. That's they they lose their songs. Or they don't manually eject their iPod from the USB plug and play location. It happened to me once. Then I fgured out why.

[allelish]

As long as you don't use itunes. If you get the iPod, use winamp, my roomate has had so much trouble with itunes. Zen doesn't have as much support but I love my Nomad, plus it's cheaper.what is this nomad you speak of?

[Tanooki Suit]

i love my nomad (i have a nomad zen xtra, 60 gigs). the only thing making me mad right now is this foreign power fucked up my charger, so i had to buy a new charger (however, this new one charges from my notebook, so that kicks ass)

[believethehyph]

I'll have to say the Zen, simply from my own expierience of iPod's battery life being shorter than Wee Man.

[InvisibleNinjas]

well i'm getting my nano today. so i'm gonna go with nano

[richter915]

with the Zen or the nomad...do you have to click constantly to go from one album/song to another? or is it similar to the iPod touchpad thing...cause that's a big reason why I would prefer an iPod cause the touch pad is easy to navigate. I don't wanna have to click a million times for one or two songs ya know? Also, how does the relative size of the two compare...and if there was a Zen/Nomad and an iPod around the same price...which would hold more music? Also, which is larger in size? thanks

[MLLMillenium]

Honestly, I would only buy one MP3 Player beside the iPod. That's the Dell Jukebox. It's much better than the other brands beside apple. Plus the scrollwheel in the middle it easy to use. Great interface. No battery problems and Very affordable.

[when 4ever ends]

Well, you'd have to disagree with my sister, my cousin, my friend John and my friend Jodie as well. Because all of us have had our songs deleted on more then one occasion and I actually threw mine through my bedroom wall because I was so frustrated with it. The battery life on iPods is absolutely horrible as well, and getting a new one costs a ridiculous amount.

I worked my ass off to get the money to buy that thing, and it was a total and utter dissapointment and I regret ever stepping foot in the Apple store.
yeah it will do that if you have it on automatic update. you can just press a button and it wont do that..


ipod. but if your going to buy one, wait till october 12th

Honestly, I would only buy one MP3 Player beside the iPod. That's the Dell Jukebox. It's much better than the other brands beside apple. Plus the scrollwheel in the middle it easy to use. Great interface. No battery problems and Very affordable.
agreed if i were going to buy a different mp3 player it would be a dell. but i have never had a problem with my ipod. and ive had it for about a year now.

[mondeoman]

I think the zen is a good £20 cheaper, but it isn't just that. I've heard alot of stories of peoples fucked up ipod's...and i can just put all my music on my WMP onto the zen like that (clicks fingers)
WMP=Winamp?
Because you can transfer stuff from WinAmp to an iPod too. But my computer messed that up so I wouldn't recommend doing that.

[richter915]

Honestly, I would only buy one MP3 Player beside the iPod. That's the Dell Jukebox. It's much better than the other brands beside apple. Plus the scrollwheel in the middle it easy to use. Great interface. No battery problems and Very affordable.
hmm, interesting...

[Talib Scottie]

with the Zen or the nomad...do you have to click constantly to go from one album/song to another? or is it similar to the iPod touchpad thing...cause that's a big reason why I would prefer an iPod cause the touch pad is easy to navigate. I don't wanna have to click a million times for one or two songs ya know? Also, how does the relative size of the two compare...and if there was a Zen/Nomad and an iPod around the same price...which would hold more music? Also, which is larger in size? thanks
You have to click a bunch of times just for one song, but you can make playlists on the go with the Nomad. The Zen has a touch scroll thing, the Nomad as a click wheel, so there's a difference in that as well.

See I weedeat for hours at a time where I work, and isince it's easy to make playlists on the go with the Nomad, I can choose like 4 albums and random songs and easier skip the songs I don't want to hear and adjust the volume and all that, without even taking it out of my pocket (i can feel where the buttons are.)

Honestly, I would only buy one MP3 Player beside the iPod. That's the Dell Jukebox. It's much better than the other brands beside apple. Plus the scrollwheel in the middle it easy to use. Great interface. No battery problems and Very affordable.
My Nomad has better battery life then my roomate's Ipod, I dropped the shit out of it one time and it broke but I took it back and got a new one, that's the only problem I've had and it's much cheaper (40gig for $209.99)

[when 4ever ends]

i still think the ipod is by far the easiest to use.

[elemenohpe]

WMP=Winamp?
Because you can transfer stuff from WinAmp to an iPod too. But my computer messed that up so I wouldn't recommend doing that.

wmp=windows media player.

[when 4ever ends]

wmp=windows media player.
god i hate that program

[elemenohpe]

god i hate that program

as do i.

winamp 4 lyfe

[mondeoman]

god i hate that program
Oh alright. Me too.

[MLLMillenium]

Dell Dj. Comes in many diffrent Sizes. Here's the 20Gig. 199.99.

http://img.dell.com/images/global/products/dj/dj_20_80x100.jpghttp://www1.us.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/dj_20_new?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs

See in the middle it has a scroll wheel which funticons just like the touch panel. very clever if you ask me.

[richter915]

Dell Dj. Comes in many diffrent Sizes. Here's the 20Gig. 199.99.

http://img.dell.com/images/global/products/dj/dj_20_80x100.jpghttp://www1.us.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/dj_20_new?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs

See in the middle it has a scroll wheel which funticons just like the touch panel. very clever if you ask me.
ya my gf is trying to convince me that the DJ is better. It comes down to either the DJ, Nomad, or iPod for me...I just have no idea what to do since I've never seen or used a DJ or Nomad before.

[MLLMillenium]

DJ > Nomad. The iPod and Dj are both really good. If I never got an iPod it would have been a DJ. It's actually what I almost did. Although I elected to go with the iPod.

[Tanooki Suit]

the jog dial on the nomad zen xtra rocks... just hold it until you get there, don't have to keep moving your fingers and shit (a-la ipod and dell dj)

[Talib Scottie]

DJ > Nomad. The iPod and Dj are both really good. If I never got an iPod it would have been a DJ. It's actually what I almost did. Although I elected to go with the iPod.
That's a matter of opinion. I'll take the Nomad over my friend's Ipod any day. But I've never used a DJ so I don't know about that. I just love my Nomad.

[when 4ever ends]

ipod>DJ>Nomad

[richter915]

well, in regards to price or dollar/gig...the DJ wins out, right? (in other words, i'm cheap and I want what's cheap)

[Talib Scottie]

ipod>DJ>Nomad
All I know is my roomate has lost his songs twice, has had to send it off twice for battery problems and once for some sort of hard disk problem.

I've taken mine back once. See hte flaw to a Nomad is that it works better when not dropped on concrete.

Basically this all comes down to preference though. I'm 100% satisfied with my Nomad.

[Tanooki Suit]

I've used all three (though only bought one). From my experience, the interface for the Nomad is the best. I would rank the DJ right behind it just because they are so similar. However, I rank the iPod last because its on-the-go playlisting qualities are sorely lacking. Plus I just love that the buttons are all on the sides on the Nomad Xtra with none on the front, meaning I can grip it and navigate uber-easily.

[MLLMillenium]

Every product has it's probelms. I don't actually know a single person with iPod probelms. Zens though holy crap. Then you hear of people with vise versa. Everything has it's glitches.

[richter915]

Every product has it's probelms. I don't actually know a single person with iPod probelms. Zens though holy crap. Then you hear of people with vise versa. Everything has it's glitches.
ya that's what it seems like. Plus the battery problems with the iPod...I'm really leaning towards the DJ...how does the screen look on the DJ? The one I was looking at online reminded me of my HS graphing calculator. (that's bad)

[Talib Scottie]

ya that's what it seems like. Plus the battery problems with the iPod...I'm really leaning towards the DJ...how does the screen look on the DJ? The one I was looking at online reminded me of my HS graphing calculator. (that's bad)
It doesn't appear to be any worse then the nomad or ipod. it has a blue backlight. that's about all I could tell you

[richter915]

It doesn't appear to be any worse then the nomad or ipod. it has a blue backlight. that's about all I could tell you
well ipods are now all color right? so then a bluebacklight puts the DJ and Nomad behind the iPod

[Talib Scottie]

well ipods are now all color right? so then a bluebacklight puts the DJ and Nomad behind the iPod
You know what I meant.

[MLLMillenium]

Haha, it has blue backlighting. That's all no real diffrence, except the screen size it actually fairly large. The resolution is fine it's not one of those Ti-83x Plus

[Brownpants06]

i have a zen touch 20gig, much better than ipod (wma files and 24 hour battery life <3). Had it since may and not a single scratch on screen (being in my pocket almost every day with coins and sometimes keys).

only downside is its a bit bulkier than an ipod