Tim Ratay Traded

[AshesAshes]

To tampa bay.

[btbam > you]

the 49ers season is going to be even worse now.

[AshesAshes]

the 49ers season is going to be even worse now.
Alex Smith was gonna be the starter the rest of the way anyway and now he doesnt have to look over his shoulder and worry about rattay taken his spot.Good move by the niners I still think they should of kept smith on the bench the whole season,give him the carson palmer treatment.

[YourLatestVicti]

Alex Smith was gonna be the starter the rest of the way anyway and now he doesnt have to look over his shoulder and worry about rattay taken his spot.Good move by the niners I still think they should of kept smith on the bench the whole season,give him the carson palmer treatment.
Well Kitna was doing fairly well so that made it easier for the Bengals to do that. But with the Niners going nowhere this year it makes sense for them to get him so real game expirience.

[ActorInThisPlay]

To tampa bay.
haha oh shit. so my team got Tim Rattay...I guess that's cool although Griese is doing well right now, so I hope Gruden doesn't make a wrong move starting Rattay while Griese is still doing well.

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haha oh shit. so my team got Tim Rattay...I guess that's cool although Griese is doing well right now, so I hope Gruden doesn't make a wrong move starting Rattay while Griese is still doing well.
Griese is injured.

Chris Simms is your boy now.

[btbam > you]

haha oh shit. so my team got Tim Rattay...I guess that's cool although Griese is doing well right now, so I hope Gruden doesn't make a wrong move starting Rattay while Griese is still doing well.



griese is done for the year

[Clarett'sGreyGoose]

Tampa just keeps stockpiling mediocre QB's from other teams. now they have Griese (even though he's injured), Luke McCown AND Tim Rattay sitting behind Chris Simms, a mid-round draft pick. Hmm. I love the Bucs though,they're my other favorite team (behind the hometown Bills) and I'd love to see Chris Simms do well at the NFL level, he's been waiting for long enough to actually start.

[Vanity__Dearest]

Tim Ratay Traded.....a t in his last name for an undisclosed draft pick.

[YouMadeTheScene]

I think the bigger Trade was AJ Feeley to the Chargers which indefinetly seals the fate of either Phillip Rivers or Drew Brees. One of them will without a doubt not be a Charger after this season, and where do they go?

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not like the niners were going anywhere with him

heres the bright side...

we get to pick up a USC player in the draft

[YouMadeTheScene]

not like the niners were going anywhere with him

heres the bright side...

we get to pick up a USC player in the draft
Or D'Brickshaw Ferguson as your tackle. I played against him here in NY and he is a fucking monster. So strong and so quick.

[still_life]

Rattay will probably start in 2-3 games.

[mat1419]

not like the niners were going anywhere with him

heres the bright side...

we get to pick up a USC player in the draft
throw in smith and peterson and only 19 players to go!

[AshesAshes]

not like the niners were going anywhere with him

heres the bright side...

we get to pick up a USC player in the draft
I hope your not refering to reggie bush or matt leinheart the niners need defense.

[Clarett'sGreyGoose]

I hope your not refering to reggie bush or matt leinheart the niners need defense.
they need an O-line.

[still_life]

Niners need a #1 WR. Reggie Wayne perhaps? Hard to let Edge go after how great he's been for Indy.

[whitelines]

the niners need a miracle.

[Vanity__Dearest]

get rid of edge, it's alot easier to find a running back to run in that team's setup, than find a great up and comer like wayne, who will be around when harrison is gone in 5.

[Clarett'sGreyGoose]

You know what? this might be alot easier if we deal with it this way.

What DON'T the 49ers need?

QB (Alex Smith)
SS (Tony Parrish)
LOLB (Julian Peterson)

....yeah. that leaves 19 pisspoor position players.

[still_life]

Alex Smith is piss poor until proven otherwise.

I can't imagine Reggie Wayne and Harrison being on the same roster for 5 more years. I also have a feeling Harrison doesn't like the emergence of Wayne at all. I really don't care what Indy does this off-season as long as they win the Super Bowl. That way the "Manning = Marino" argument can die for good, and the Manning > Marino one can come out.

[ActorInThisPlay]

griese is done for the year
yeah I was confused there for a while but I didn't hear about it right away, so that sux. Griese was doing good too...hopefully Rattay can actually do something with the Bucs and not completely put them in the shitter.

[Clarett'sGreyGoose]

yeah I was confused there for a while but I didn't hear about it right away, so that sux. Griese was doing good too...hopefully Rattay can actually do something with the Bucs and not completely put them in the shitter.
Rattay's gonna be a back-up in case Chris Simms tanks.

[ActorInThisPlay]

Rattay's gonna be a back-up in case Chris Simms tanks.
which he most likely will...

[IAmNietzche]

Alex Smith is piss poor until proven otherwise.

I can't imagine Reggie Wayne and Harrison being on the same roster for 5 more years. I also have a feeling Harrison doesn't like the emergence of Wayne at all. I really don't care what Indy does this off-season as long as they win the Super Bowl. That way the "Manning = Marino" argument can die for good, and the Manning > Marino one can come out.hahaha never in a million years

[Spicoli hey bud]

Alex Smith is piss poor until proven otherwise.

I can't imagine Reggie Wayne and Harrison being on the same roster for 5 more years. I also have a feeling Harrison doesn't like the emergence of Wayne at all. I really don't care what Indy does this off-season as long as they win the Super Bowl. That way the "Manning = Marino" argument can die for good, and the Manning > Marino one can come out.HOLY SHIT
THAT IS ONE OF THE WORST THINGS I'VE EVER HEARD
EVEN IF YOU DON'T CONSIDER MARINO THE GREATES QB OF ALL TIME, THERE IS NO SINGLE ACTIVE PLAYER THAT CAN EVEN BE COMPARED TO HIS GREATNESS. THE ONLY SEMI-DECENT ARGUMENT YOU CAN MAKE RIGHT NOW IS FOR FAVRE, AND I DON'T EVEN AGREE WITH THAT. MANNING HAS BEEN GREAT THUS FAR, AND YES, HE BROKE ONE OF MARINO'S MANY RECORDS, BUT A LASTING CAREER IS A DIFFERENT STORY. I'M NOT SAYING MANNING DOESN'T HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO BE A GREAT, BUT NOT QUITE YET. HIS IS ONE OF THE GREAT QB'S OF NOW, NOT ALL TIME.

[still_life]

Manning is on pace to break any record Marino ever had. What more could you say?

[NetNerdsRevenge]

HOLY SHIT
THAT IS ONE OF THE WORST THINGS I'VE EVER HEARD
EVEN IF YOU DON'T CONSIDER MARINO THE GREATES QB OF ALL TIME, THERE IS NO SINGLE ACTIVE PLAYER THAT CAN EVEN BE COMPARED TO HIS GREATNESS. THE ONLY SEMI-DECENT ARGUMENT YOU CAN MAKE RIGHT NOW IS FOR FAVRE, AND I DON'T EVEN AGREE WITH THAT. MANNING HAS BEEN GREAT THUS FAR, AND YES, HE BROKE ONE OF MARINO'S MANY RECORDS, BUT A LASTING CAREER IS A DIFFERENT STORY. I'M NOT SAYING MANNING DOESN'T HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO BE A GREAT, BUT NOT QUITE YET. HIS IS ONE OF THE GREAT QB'S OF NOW, NOT ALL TIME.
Your caps lock button is on...

[Spicoli hey bud]

Manning is on pace to break any record Marino ever had. What more could you say?In football, "on pace" is meaningless
do you realize how difficult it is to have a long lasting career?
and a successful one?

and it's very hard to be "on pace" to break any of the other SINGLE season records that Marino holds

[still_life]

In football, "on pace" is meaningless
do you realize how difficult it is to have a long lasting career?
and a successful one?

and it's very hard to be "on pace" to break any of the other SINGLE season records that Marino holds

If Favre plays 2-3 more seasons, he'll also go ahead of Marino in attempts, completions, TDs, yards to be #1 all time statistically.

You do realize I'm talking about Peyton Manning, not a young QB like Eli or Palmer? You know, Peyton Manning, the guy with 2 straight league MVPs, 6 straight 4000 yard seasons, 7 straight 25+ TD pass seasons, 118 consecutive starts (only trailing Favre)? He's been the model of consistency in the NFL for QB's.

Marino's running out of single season records. Passer rating and comp. % by a rookie was taken by Roethlisberger. Manning took the TD passes record, the most consecutive 4+ TD games record, and tied Dan for most 4+ TD games in a season. Culpepper took the total yardage record last year.

From nfl.com, I see Dan is left with his 5084 yards passing, and his 4 400 yard passing games in a season. Those are the only single season records he has left on the official site. There may be some other records that you'd have to tinker with the numbers to get, but probably nothing major. And I think those two records will go down with each other. Some guy will just lob it up all year and have some 400 yard games and break the 5100 mark.

[Trainsaw]

Alex Smith is piss poor until proven otherwise.
I can't imagine Reggie Wayne and Harrison being on the same roster for 5 more years. I also have a feeling Harrison doesn't like the emergence of Wayne at all. I really don't care what Indy does this off-season as long as they win the Super Bowl. That way the "Manning = Marino" argument can die for good, and the Manning > Marino one can come out.
So True.

[b e L I E v e]

Farve > Manning > Marino

period

[Clarett'sGreyGoose]

So True.
i never said he was good. i just meant that in the draft, you know one thing they will NOT address is QB. not yet at least.

[merv the perv]

Farve > Manning > Marino

period
You've got that backwards.

[Spicoli hey bud]

If Favre plays 2-3 more seasons, he'll also go ahead of Marino in attempts, completions, TDs, yards to be #1 all time statistically.

You do realize I'm talking about Peyton Manning, not a young QB like Eli or Palmer? You know, Peyton Manning, the guy with 2 straight league MVPs, 6 straight 4000 yard seasons, 7 straight 25+ TD pass seasons, 118 consecutive starts (only trailing Favre)? He's been the model of consistency in the NFL for QB's.

Marino's running out of single season records. Passer rating and comp. % by a rookie was taken by Roethlisberger. Manning took the TD passes record, the most consecutive 4+ TD games record, and tied Dan for most 4+ TD games in a season. Culpepper took the total yardage record last year.

From nfl.com, I see Dan is left with his 5084 yards passing, and his 4 400 yard passing games in a season. Those are the only single season records he has left on the official site. There may be some other records that you'd have to tinker with the numbers to get, but probably nothing major. And I think those two records will go down with each other. Some guy will just lob it up all year and have some 400 yard games and break the 5100 mark.Favre barely made it into this season. 2-3 more seasons seems very unlikely. He's also about 12,000 yards behind Marino right now, which makes him very unlikely to catch him.

CULPEPPER TOOK THE TOTAL YARDAGE RECORD LAST YEAR? NO
5084 > 4717 (I'm talking about passing records)

I'm not denying Manning's consistancy as of now. But if there was one man that Manning has resembled thus far, it's Marino. Peyton has a long way to go, but he has the potential and the pure passer talent (dispite his crazy footwork in the pocket) to be the next marino (especially if he continues to be the best QB without a superbowl. The TD record last year was the first of Marino's major records to be surpassed in a long time.

[still_life]

Passing and Rushing, aka total yardage. And yes, Culpepper had more. I didn't think much of it when someone said it on a forum, but then I heard it during some pre-season games this year for Minnesota. It's a pretty impressive record.

Manning's already been better than Marino in a lot of efficiency areas. He has a much better completion percentage and passer rating than Dan ever did.

[splitsecond]

I fucking hate Manning.




Anyhow, this was a smart deal by the niners. Really all they need to do is pick up a back with their likely #1 pick, retool their O-line a bit and maybe shuffle some defense, and they will be competitive again. And when they are, I shall rejoice.

[Spicoli hey bud]

Still have to say...

Marino >>>>>>> MANNING

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Still have to say...

Marino >>>>>>> MANNING
watch manning win this super bowl, then come back to me

[Spicoli hey bud]

watch manning win this super bowl, then come back to meI would still put Marino above Manning if he won it this year

[Clarett'sGreyGoose]

I would still put Marino above Manning if he won it this year
If Manning continues putting up numbers like he has (or even slightly smaller numbers) for the rest of his career, and he wins a Super Bowl (which I think he can this year), eventually, he will be considered better than Marino.

[Spicoli hey bud]

If Manning continues putting up numbers like he has (or even slightly smaller numbers) for the rest of his career, and he wins a Super Bowl (which I think he can this year), eventually, he will be considered better than Marino.like I've said before
I'll believe it when I see it
Careers are unpredictable

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like I've said before
I'll believe it when I see it
Careers are unpredictable
i highly doubt manning will become the next marino (team with no defence, awesome offence...no super bowl)

[ActorInThisPlay]

Farve > Manning > Marino

period
agreed...although the people do have a point, careers are unpredictable so I would just as far to say that Favre > Marino...its all about the ring guys. You aren't great unless you have one.

[b e L I E v e]

agreed...although the people do have a point, careers are unpredictable so I would just as far to say that Favre > Marino...its all about the ring guys. You aren't great unless you have one.
**stands up and claps**

[Spicoli hey bud]

agreed...although the people do have a point, careers are unpredictable so I would just as far to say that Favre > Marino...its all about the ring guys. You aren't great unless you have one.So basically what you're saying is Marino wasn't great
that is an obvious lie

[ActorInThisPlay]

So basically what you're saying is Marino wasn't great
that is an obvious lie
I'm saying he was very good but until you have that ring, you are not great. Great QB's lead their teams to Super Bowls and then to Super Bowl victories and over the years Marino had to have had some potential on his team but he failed to come through when it counted the most. That to me is not a "great" QB.

[Spicoli hey bud]

I'm saying he was very good but until you have that ring, you are not great. Great QB's lead their teams to Super Bowls and then to Super Bowl victories and over the years Marino had to have had some potential on his team but he failed to come through when it counted the most. That to me is not a "great" QB.Marino took his team to the superbowl his 2nd year as a pro. Other than that, he never even had the opportunity to "fail to come through." If you don't consider Marino elite, that's horrible, but to not even call him great? You're insane.

[ActorInThisPlay]

Marino took his team to the superbowl his 2nd year as a pro. Other than that, he never even had the opportunity to "fail to come through." If you don't consider Marino elite, that's horrible, but to not even call him great? You're insane.
don't get me wrong, he was a very good QB, one of the best but he still never made it to that extra plateau of Super Bowl winners. Favre has a ring, amazing stats, and record for most consecutive starts which is why Favre is better in my opinion and that makes him "great."