Chipdip rates your tunes

[chipdip18]

I've always wanted to do it, and i am now cause i feel like it.

Give me your top ten favorite artists, and i'll slap a score out of 10.0 on it, and maybe a few comments.

edit: 8/10/09, i stole this idea from mht.

[Burn That Shit]

Top 10 as in objective or top 10 favorites?

[redsoxguy676]

brand new
mewithoutyou
anberlin
four year strong
thrice
bayside
motion city sound track
death cab
say anything
manchester orchestra

[chipdip18]

Top 10 as in objective or top 10 favorites?
favorites

[funkel]

Was it Ben or Mike(mht) who did this first?

Anywho:

1. 65daysofstatic
2. The Beatles
3. Iron & Wine
4. Godspeed You! Black Emperor
5. Sigur Ros
6. Neutral Milk Hotel
7. American Football
8. The Samuel Jackson Five
9. Andrew Jackson Jihad
10. Steve Reich

[shit stroll]

as of late:

propagandhi
young livers
bridge and tunnel
no age
make do and mend
lucero
dillinger four
the get up kids
strike anywhere
smoke or fire

[JunBringer]

Here's my overall top ten from last.fm since August when I signed up:

1 http://static.last.fm/tablestyles/pixel.gif (http://www.last.fm/music/In+Flames?autostart) In Flames (http://www.last.fm/music/In+Flames)
[/URL]162
2 http://static.last.fm/tablestyles/pixel.gif (http://www.last.fm/music/In+Flames) Ben Folds (http://www.last.fm/music/Ben+Folds)
160
3 http://static.last.fm/tablestyles/pixel.gif (http://www.last.fm/music/Ben+Folds) Thrice (http://www.last.fm/music/Thrice)
148
4 http://static.last.fm/tablestyles/pixel.gif (http://www.last.fm/music/Thrice) Counting Crows (http://www.last.fm/music/Counting+Crows)
147
5 http://static.last.fm/tablestyles/pixel.gif (http://www.last.fm/music/Counting+Crows) Misery Signals (http://www.last.fm/music/Misery+Signals)
141
6 http://static.last.fm/tablestyles/pixel.gif (http://www.last.fm/music/Misery+Signals) Norma Jean (http://www.last.fm/music/Norma+Jean)
134
7 http://static.last.fm/tablestyles/pixel.gif (http://www.last.fm/music/Norma+Jean) Underoath (http://www.last.fm/music/Underoath)
133
8 http://static.last.fm/tablestyles/pixel.gif (http://www.last.fm/music/Underoath) Protest the Hero (http://www.last.fm/music/Protest+the+Hero)
130
9 http://static.last.fm/tablestyles/pixel.gif (http://www.last.fm/music/Protest+the+Hero) Architects (http://www.last.fm/music/Architects)
127
10 http://static.last.fm/tablestyles/pixel.gif (http://www.last.fm/music/Architects) See You Next Tuesday (http://www.last.fm/music/See+You+Next+Tuesday)
123
10 http://static.last.fm/tablestyles/pixel.gif (http://www.last.fm/music/See+You+Next+Tuesday) Light This City (http://www.last.fm/music/Light+This+City)
[URL="http://www.last.fm/music/Light+This+City"]123

[chipdip18]

brand new
mewithoutyou
anberlin
four year strong
thrice
bayside
motion city sound track
death cab
say anything
manchester orchestra

Brand New and Thrice are so played out now. I like that you have MCS on there, and Death Cab is okay, but the rest is pretty bleh. 3.2/10.0

Was it Ben or Mike(mht) who did this first?

Anywho:

1. 65daysofstatic
2. The Beatles
3. Iron & Wine
4. Godspeed You! Black Emperor
5. Sigur Ros
6. Neutral Milk Hotel
7. American Football
8. The Samuel Jackson Five
9. Andrew Jackson Jihad
10. Steve Reich

I think they both did it around the same time.

This is a great list. 9.0/10.0 since i'm not a huge fan of AJJ, but it's cool to see everyone else. That and i like you.

[oddwithoutend]

the microphones
brand new
iron and wine
bedouin soundclash
animal collective
neutral milk hotel
battles
elliott smith
mewithoutYou
manchester orchestra

dont know how i forgot nmh

[funkel]

This is a great list. 8.9/10.0 since i'm not a huge fan of AJJ, but it's cool to see everyone else. That and i like you.
:woot:

AJJ is how I get my punk fix. Uppin' it, yo.

[ShimmerAndSpill]

Thrice
Sigur Ros
Bear Vs. Shark
mewithoutYou
Days Away
Saves the Day
Northstar
As Tall As Lions
Owen
As Cities Burn

[Burn That Shit]

You can change your user title to your Chipdip playlist score, haha.

[chipdip18]

as of late:

propagandhi
young livers
bridge and tunnel
no age
make do and mend
lucero
dillinger four
the get up kids
strike anywhere
smoke or fire

The Get Up Kids, Propagandhi, Bridge and Tunell, this is a good list, but to punx for me. I wouldnt' say a huge amount of variety, but enough. 7/10.0

Here's my overall top ten from last.fm since August when I signed up:

1 http://static.last.fm/tablestyles/pixel.gif (http://www.last.fm/music/In+Flames?autostart) In Flames (http://www.last.fm/music/In+Flames)
162
2 http://static.last.fm/tablestyles/pixel.gif (http://www.last.fm/music/Ben+Folds?autostart) Ben Folds (http://www.last.fm/music/Ben+Folds)
160
3 http://static.last.fm/tablestyles/pixel.gif (http://www.last.fm/music/Thrice?autostart) Thrice (http://www.last.fm/music/Thrice)
148
4 http://static.last.fm/tablestyles/pixel.gif (http://www.last.fm/music/Counting+Crows?autostart) Counting Crows (http://www.last.fm/music/Counting+Crows)
147
5 http://static.last.fm/tablestyles/pixel.gif (http://www.last.fm/music/Misery+Signals?autostart) Misery Signals (http://www.last.fm/music/Misery+Signals)
141
6 http://static.last.fm/tablestyles/pixel.gif (http://www.last.fm/music/Norma+Jean?autostart) Norma Jean (http://www.last.fm/music/Norma+Jean)
134
7 http://static.last.fm/tablestyles/pixel.gif (http://www.last.fm/music/Underoath?autostart) Underoath (http://www.last.fm/music/Underoath)
133
8 http://static.last.fm/tablestyles/pixel.gif (http://www.last.fm/music/Protest+the+Hero?autostart) Protest the Hero (http://www.last.fm/music/Protest+the+Hero)
130
9 http://static.last.fm/tablestyles/pixel.gif (http://www.last.fm/music/Architects?autostart) Architects (http://www.last.fm/music/Architects)
127
10 http://static.last.fm/tablestyles/pixel.gif (http://www.last.fm/music/See+You+Next+Tuesday?autostart) See You Next Tuesday (http://www.last.fm/music/See+You+Next+Tuesday)
123
10 http://static.last.fm/tablestyles/pixel.gif (http://www.last.fm/music/Light+This+City?autostart) Light This City (http://www.last.fm/music/Light+This+City)
123

This is a list of bands that i really don't like. Counting Crows had a few good Pop numbers and Thrice is too played out. And Ben Folds on that list? Whaat? 2.7/10.0

[dpetty21]

I get a feeling you will rate mine abour a 2 lol just based on the artists you have in your profile but I rate it a 10 so thats what makes it interesting haha. No specific order.

Saves The Day
New Found Glory
The Early November/Ace Enders
Rancid
Valencia
Sugarcult
Blink 182
Fall Out Boy
Midtown
Jacks Mannequin

I had about 5-6 more that easily could have made my list. I kept it to top 10 in the punk/pop punk/indie/ whatever scene. Nothing like Tom Petty although he might just take my list as #1.

[funkel]

I get a feeling you will rate mine abour a 2 lol just based on the artists you have in your profile but I rate it a 10 so thats what makes it interesting haha. No specific order.

Saves The Day
New Found Glory
The Early November/Ace Enders
Rancid
Valencia
Sugarcult
Blink 182
Fall Out Boy
Midtown
Jacks Mannequin

I had about 5-6 more that easily could have made my list. I kept it to top 10 in the punk/pop punk/indie/ whatever scene. Nothing like Tom Petty although he might just take my list as #1.
Do your actual top 10, dude. Don't limit yourself to a scene.

[bradsonemanband]

Owen
American Football
Blink 182
Mineral
Hyro Da Hero
Park
Armor For Sleep
Jimmy Eat World
New Found Glory
Latterman

[funkel]

Owen
American Football
Blink 182
Mineral
Hyro Da Hero
Park
Armor For Sleep
Paramore
New Found Glory
Latterman
This list is like two different ones...

[JunBringer]

This is a list of bands that i really don't like. Counting Crows had a few good Pop numbers and Thrice is too played out. And Ben Folds on that list? Whaat? 2.7/10.0

Have you listened to a CC or BF album before? I highly recommend it. Brilliant songwriting.

[chipdip18]

the microphones
brand new
iron and wine
bedouin soundclash
animal collective
neutral milk hotel
battles
elliott smith
mewithoutYou
manchester orchestra

dont know how i forgot nmh

Solid, i like Bedouin Soundclash on there, nice but mewithoutYou and Manchester Orchestra are bleh to me. Brand New, played out, nice with The Microphones. 7.4/10.0

:woot:

AJJ is how I get my punk fix. Uppin' it, yo.

Understandable, punx is cool.

Thrice
Sigur Ros
Bear Vs. Shark
mewithoutYou
Days Away
Saves the Day
Northstar
As Tall As Lions
Owen
As Cities Burn

Sigur Ros, Northstar and Owen save you here. the rest.... eh meh 4.6/10.0

You can change your user title to your Chipdip playlist score, haha.

Haha i should.

[oddwithoutend]

Solid, i like Bedouin Soundclash on there, nice but mewithoutYou and Manchester Orchestra are bleh to me. Brand New, played out, nice with The Microphones. 7.4/10.0

lol i agree Manchester Orchestra is bleh. brand IS played out lol



but i have very high expectations for mewithoutYou's next album. I'm happy with 7.4, and you're a good poster by the way.

[Chromefox]

Are you interested in like, the last three months of listening taste, or the whole thing?

Playing with the idea of throwing down, just for fun.

[chipdip18]

I get a feeling you will rate mine abour a 2 lol just based on the artists you have in your profile but I rate it a 10 so thats what makes it interesting haha. No specific order.

Saves The Day
New Found Glory
The Early November/Ace Enders
Rancid
Valencia
Sugarcult
Blink 182
Fall Out Boy
Midtown
Jacks Mannequin

I had about 5-6 more that easily could have made my list. I kept it to top 10 in the punk/pop punk/indie/ whatever scene. Nothing like Tom Petty although he might just take my list as #1.

TEN is solid, good nostalgia pick, Midtown meh, Valenica had some okay tunes on their debut, Jacks the same. And who didn't like TTTYG amirite? I'll give you a 3/10.0. TEN was your strongest pick.

Owen
American Football
Blink 182
Mineral
Hyro Da Hero
Park
Armor For Sleep
Jimmy Eat World
New Found Glory
Latterman

I don't even know where to begin. But Owen, American Football, Mineral are good, Armor For Sleep had some okay ones off WTDWYD, JEW has good tunes. How about a 4.3/10.0

Have you listened to a CC or BF album before? I highly recommend it. Brilliant songwriting.


Yes, but only some of it sticks.

[GuitarR0cker1]

Brand New
Fall Out Boy
Say Anything
Radiohead
Cursive
Death Cab For Cutie
Weezer
Saves The Day
The Get Up Kids
Taking Back Sunday

This has a few bands that don't really deserve to be on it.

[bradsonemanband]

This list is like two different ones...

hahaha dammit. i was hoping i changed it before anyone saw it! i put Paramore cuz i couldn't think of any others, but then i was like "Uhh.... DUH!!! Jimmy!!!!"

[chipdip18]

lol i agree Manchester Orchestra is bleh. brand IS played out lol



but i have very high expectations for mewithoutYou's next album. I'm happy with 7.4, and you're a good poster by the way.

Thank you, and it's good you recognize what's bleh but stick to it, i like that. I'm really not into MWY at all, so there you have it. You had some solid picks there.

Are you interested in like, the last three months of listening taste, or the whole thing?

Playing with the idea of throwing down, just for fun.


Just lay it all down.

[JunBringer]

Yes, but only some of it sticks.

Well it took me awhile to get into them, I was in my mid 20's before I could really appreciate them, so maybe things'll change down the road.

[Emelianenko]

Cher
Nickelback
ABBA
The Fix
Lou Bega
GWAR
Randy Travis
Seal
Enrique Iglesias
and of course...Prevent Falls

[steviestare]

Jimmy Eat World
blink-182
Morrissey
Death Cab For Cutie
Minus The Bear
Midtown
Thursday
Elliot Smith
The Cure
Modest Mouse

Probably going to get a shitty rating. Oh well.

[Machu505]

Cursive
Thursday
Radiohead
Gatsby's American Dream
The Mars Volta
Propagandhi
Brand New
Weezer
Punchline
Saves the Day

[dpetty21]

Do your actual top 10, dude. Don't limit yourself to a scene.

I limited it because I had a hard enough time narrowing it down just to these haha. Most of these would be in my actual top ten but so would Tom Petty and other classic rock people. Maybe some rap groups too. Narrowing it down to ten would take a real long time.

[chipdip18]

Brand New
Fall Out Boy
Say Anything
Radiohead
Cursive
Death Cab For Cutie
Weezer
Saves The Day
The Get Up Kids
Taking Back Sunday

This has a few bands that don't really deserve to be on it.

Radiohead is by far your number one, Curisve your number two. A lot of it is very similar, too similar to each other. Those two snag you a 3.2/10.0

Well it took me awhile to get into them, I was in my mid 20's before I could really appreciate them, so maybe things'll change down the road.


We'll see i suppose, but i'm leaning towards no right now.

[TheOtherAndrew]

TheOtherAndrew rates Chipdip's avatar:

:thumbup:

[c_rob2700]

Slayer
Slayer
Slayer
Slayer
Slayer
Slayer
Slayer
Slayer
Slayer
Slayer

[FeynmanWannabe]

1-10) Townes Van Zandt

[chipdip18]

Cher
Nickelback
ABBA
The Fix
Lou Bega
GWAR
Randy Travis
Seal
Enrique Iglesias
and of course...Prevent Falls

What is happening on this list? Dang you listen to straight up Pop. Get some Daft Punk, Hall & Oats or Van Morrison on your ipod. 1.7/10.0 Mostly for Nickelback and Enrique and Cher. And Seal, and well, a lot of it.

Jimmy Eat World
blink-182
Morrissey
Death Cab For Cutie
Minus The Bear
Midtown
Thursday
Elliot Smith
The Cure
Modest Mouse

Probably going to get a shitty rating. Oh well.

blink brings this guy down, but the rest are at least okay. 5.9/10.0

Cursive
Thursday
Radiohead
Gatsby's American Dream
The Mars Volta
Propagandhi
Brand New
Weezer
Punchline
Saves the Day

I like this list, the top six are good, the bottom four are played out (aside from Punchline, just not a large fan). 6.7/10.0

[chipdip18]

TheOtherAndrew rates Chipdip's avatar:

:thumbup:

You list gets a +2 for this.

Slayer
Slayer
Slayer
Slayer
Slayer
Slayer
Slayer
Slayer
Slayer
Slayer

Will not judge.

1-10) Townes Van Zandt

Will not judge.

[Emelianenko]

What is happening on this list? Dang you listen to straight up Pop. Get some Daft Punk, Hall & Oats or Van Morrison on your ipod. 1.7/10.0 Mostly for Nickelback and Enrique and Cher. And Seal, and well, a lot of it.




I like this list, the top six are good, the bottom four are played out (aside from Punchline, just not a large fan). 6.7/10.0
This kinda ruins it, but my list was a joke.

[theguy77]

yo jacob can i do a 20, i dont feel like 10 is giving all my favorites justice.

[c_rob2700]

Bright Eyes
Mogwai
Iron & Wine
Jenny Lewis/Rilo Kiley
Gatsbys American Dream
Cursive
Neutral Milk Hotel
The Format
Israel Kamakawiwo'ole
The National
;-)

[GuitarR0cker1]

Radiohead is by far your number one, Curisve your number two. A lot of it is very similar, too similar to each other. Those two snag you a 3.2/10.0

I listen to a variety of genres, it just I like 2000-2005 pop punk music the most. :shrug:

I guess this list probably makes more sense for my music tastes:
Fall Out Boy
Brand New
Radiohead
Death Cab For Cutie
Cursive
Weezer
Saves The Day
Thursday
Neutral Milk Hotel
Lifetime or Jawbreaker(tossup here)

[Chromefox]

Just lay it all down. Radiohead
Brand New
William Doyle
Jack's Mannequin
Brendan Canning
Feist
Beck
Muse
Oasis
Jimmy Eat World

And a bonus 5 artists, because 10 isn't enough to suffice.

Pedro the Lion
Fiona Apple
Cursive
Spoon
Coldplay

[chipdip18]

This kinda ruins it, but my list was a joke.

I see.

yo jacob can i do a 20, i dont feel like 10 is giving all my favorites justice.

Haha yes.

Bright Eyes (http://www.absolutepunk.net/memberlist.php?do=getall&field5=Bright+Eyes)
Mogwai (http://www.absolutepunk.net/memberlist.php?do=getall&field5=Mogwai)
Iron & Wine (http://www.absolutepunk.net/memberlist.php?do=getall&field5=Iron+%26amp%3B+Wine)
Jenny Lewis/Rilo Kiley (http://www.absolutepunk.net/memberlist.php?do=getall&field5=Jenny+Lewis%2FRilo+Kiley)
Gatsbys American Dream (http://www.absolutepunk.net/memberlist.php?do=getall&field5=Gatsbys+American+Dream)
Cursive (http://www.absolutepunk.net/memberlist.php?do=getall&field5=Cursive)
Neutral Milk Hotel (http://www.absolutepunk.net/memberlist.php?do=getall&field5=Neutral+Milk+Hotel)
The Format (http://www.absolutepunk.net/memberlist.php?do=getall&field5=The+Format)
Israel Kamakawiwo'ole (http://www.absolutepunk.net/memberlist.php?do=getall&field5=Israel+Kamakawiwo%27ole)
The National (http://www.absolutepunk.net/memberlist.php?do=getall&field5=The+National)
;-)

You dog you haha.

[Getup and Dance]

Im lazy so here is my last.fm top 10.

1 2Pac (http://www.last.fm/music/2Pac)
2 KRS-One (http://www.last.fm/music/KRS-One)
3 Redman (http://www.last.fm/music/Redman)
4 The Get Up Kids (http://www.last.fm/music/The+Get+Up+Kids)
5 Ol' Dirty Bastard (http://www.last.fm/music/Ol%27+Dirty+Bastard)
6 Converge (http://www.last.fm/music/Converge)
7 N.W.A (http://www.last.fm/music/N.W.A)
8 Notorious B.I.G. (http://www.last.fm/music/Notorious+B.I.G.)
9 Method Man (http://www.last.fm/music/Method+Man)
10 Wu-Tang Clan (http://www.last.fm/music/Wu-Tang+Clan)

[TheOtherAndrew]

You list gets a +2 for this.
I'll hold you to that when I feel like making a list and not murdering somebody.

[FeynmanWannabe]

You list gets a +2 for this.



Will not judge.



Will not judge.
:thumbdwn:

[chipdip18]

I listen to a variety of genres, it just I like 2000-2005 pop punk music the most. :shrug:

I guess this list probably makes more sense for my music tastes:
Fall Out Boy
Brand New
Radiohead
Death Cab For Cutie
Cursive
Weezer
Saves The Day
Thursday
Neutral Milk Hotel
Lifetime or Jawbreaker(tossup here)

Well at least you were honest. This one would have gotten you a 6.1/10.0 if you kept The Lawrence Arms, but now like 5.8.

Radiohead
Brand New
William Doyle
Jack's Mannequin
Brendan Canning
Feist
Beck
Muse
Oasis
Jimmy Eat World

And a bonus 5 artists, because 10 isn't enough to suffice.

Pedro the Lion
Fiona Apple
Cursive
Spoon
Coldplay
If you put Pedrio the Lion, Cursive and Spoon in for Feist, Brand New, and Oasis, i'll give you a 7/10.0

[chipdip18]

Im lazy so here is my last.fm top 10.

1 2Pac (http://www.last.fm/music/2Pac)
2 KRS-One (http://www.last.fm/music/KRS-One)
3 Redman (http://www.last.fm/music/Redman)
4 The Get Up Kids (http://www.last.fm/music/The+Get+Up+Kids)
5 Ol' Dirty Bastard (http://www.last.fm/music/Ol%27+Dirty+Bastard)
6 Converge (http://www.last.fm/music/Converge)
7 N.W.A (http://www.last.fm/music/N.W.A)
8 Notorious B.I.G. (http://www.last.fm/music/Notorious+B.I.G.)
9 Method Man (http://www.last.fm/music/Method+Man)
10 Wu-Tang Clan (http://www.last.fm/music/Wu-Tang+Clan)

6.9/10.0 TGUK, Biggie, Wu-Tang, NWA are my favorites here.

I'll hold you to that when I feel like making a list and not murdering somebody.

Do it.

:thumbdwn:

I'm sure your list would be good.

[Emelianenko]

I guess i'll get a real one together...

The Shins
Thursday
Coheed and Cambria
The Decemberists
Neutral Milk Hotel
Rancid
Saves The Day (anything up to and including Stay What You Are only...if that counts?)
Alkaline Trio (everything up to and including From Here To the Infirmary)
Further Seems Forever
Hot Rod Circuit (First 3 albums)

[theguy77]

sweet!!!

1. Radiohead
2. Death Cab For Cutie
3. Brand New
4. The Flaming Lips
5. Sufjan Stevens
6. Elliott Smith
7. The Beatles
8. Kevin Devine
9. William Doyle
10. Bright Eyes
11. American Analog Set
12. Bon Iver
13. Brendan Canning
14. Iron And Wine
15. The Decemberists
16. Beck
17. Nick Drake
18. Pedro the Lion
19. The Weakerthans
20. Fleet Foxes

[theguy77]

stop degrading all us brand new fans radiohead is surely more "played out" :-d

[GuitarR0cker1]

Well at least you were honest. This one would have gotten you a 6.1/10.0 if you kept The Lawrence Arms, but now like 5.8.

Yeah I just forgot about Jawbreaker and Lifetime, which is why I changed it haha. I hate doing top 10 lists though because I always feel like I am leaving out all of these important bands that need to be in a list to do my tastes justice.

[Chromefox]

I'll take my hypothetical score and run.

[theguy77]

oh fuck i forgot caribou. meh i need to hear the album more before being definitive.

[chipdip18]

I guess i'll get a real one together...

The Shins
Thursday
Coheed and Cambria
The Decemberists
Neutral Milk Hotel
Rancid
Saves The Day (anything up to and including Stay What You Are only...if that counts?)
Alkaline Trio (everything up to and including From Here To the Infirmary)
Further Seems Forever
Hot Rod Circuit (First 3 albums)

This is a more real list. NMK, The Shins, weird to see FSF pop up. The rest are meh, Coheed had a solid album, Thursday had a few. 5.8/10.0. I can't do Saves The Day or Alk3.

sweet!!!

1. Radiohead-
2. Death Cab For Cutie
3. Brand New
4. The Flaming Lips
5. Sufjan Stevens-
6. Elliott Smith-
7. The Beatles-
8. Kevin Devine
9. William Doyle
10. Bright Eyes-
11. American Analog Set
12. Brendan Canning-
13. Iron And Wine-
14. Beck-
15. Nick Drake-
16. Pedro the Lion
17. The Weakerthans
18. Fleet Foxes-
19. Feist
20. Jimmy Eat World
I'm surprised to see The Flaming Lips so high and Iron and Wine so low. I'm going to say 8 with the ten i'm picking.

[theguy77]

FUCK, THE DECEMBERISTS :facepalm:

EDIT EDIT EDIT

[Pat k]

Alkaline Trio
Lawrence Arms
Saves the Day
Blink 182
American Nightmare
Slowdive
Simon and Garfunkel
Brian Eno
NFG
The National

[funkel]

<-- Best score so far. Bam.

[steviestare]

FUCK, THE DECEMBERISTS :facepalm:

EDIT EDIT EDIT
Buahaha.

[chipdip18]

stop degrading all us brand new fans radiohead is surely more "played out" :-d

Radiohead is far superior to Brand New though, that's the key difference haha. And this all based on my tastes anyway haha.

Yeah I just forgot about Jawbreaker and Lifetime, which is why I changed it haha. I hate doing top 10 lists though because I always feel like I am leaving out all of these important bands that need to be in a list to do my tastes justice. It's a tough one, but i was impressed with your list.

I'll take my hypothetical score and run.
I forgot what yours was already.

oh fuck i forgot caribou. meh i need to hear the album more before being definitive.
Fair enough. You should get the Milk of Human Kindess or whatever, not as good though.

[Pat k]

The Decemberists should only appear on worst-of lists

[chipdip18]

FUCK, THE DECEMBERISTS :facepalm:

EDIT EDIT EDIT

Haha you got a great score, be content.

Alkaline Trio
Lawrence Arms-
Saves the Day
Blink 182
American Nightmare
Slowdive
Simon and Garfunkel-
Brian Eno
NFG
The National-

Yeah, you are super hit or miss. The ones with dashes are spot on. But come on man, you have potential. 4.5/10.0

<-- Best score so far. Bam.

Your list was bomb. I wanted to give it a 9, but couldn't.

[theguy77]

I'm surprised to see The Flaming Lips so high and Iron and Wine so low. I'm going to say 8 with the ten i'm picking.

haha well, I&W writes the best lyircs on that list, and seeing as i only moderately enjoyed his full band sound, i see him mostly as an acoustic/vocal guy. factor in the idea that music that is intricate and plays with several different styles is something that i value, its hard for a guy like that to REALLY compete with my top favorites. but i have loads of respect for the man.

but dude you're surprised to see flaming lips that high? have you heard my avatar? that shit is some incredible and wildly creative songwriting and production too, im surprised more people dont think so.

[c_rob2700]

My like Top 4 are the only ones that don't constantly change. I know Sufjan Stevens and Manchester Orchestra would be in my Top 10 as of now.

[chipdip18]

haha well, I&W writes the best lyircs on that list, and seeing as i only moderately enjoyed his full band sound, i see him mostly as an acoustic/vocal guy. factor in the idea that music that is intricate and plays with several different styles is something that i value, its hard for a guy like that to REALLY compete with my top favorites. but i have loads of respect for the man.

but dude you're surprised to see flaming lips that high? have you heard my avatar? that shit is some incredible and wildly creative songwriting and production too, im surprised more people dont think so.

Never could get into The Flaming Lips like everyone else could. hahaha Have you heard my avatar?

[funkel]

Your list was bomb. I wanted to give it a 9, but couldn't.
I feel slighted now.

[chipdip18]

I feel slighted now.

You want the nine? Read my AOTW draft.

[FeynmanWannabe]

6.9/10.0 TGUK, Biggie, Wu-Tang, NWA are my favorites here.



Do it.



I'm sure your list would be good.
It already is good.

[Pat k]

Yeah, you are super hit or miss. The ones with dashes are spot on. But come on man, you have potential. 4.5/10.0



You don't like Eno or Slowdive, but you like the National and Simon and Garfunkel. You are weird.

[theguy77]

Radiohead is far superior to Brand New though, that's the key difference haha. And this all based on my tastes anyway haha.

haha its true but im afraid you may be in the minority by thinking northstar > brand new. maybe they were comparable in deja days as both wrote top-notch pop-punk albums but brand new made TDAG and just left other scene bands in the dust.

Fair enough. You should get the Milk of Human Kindess or whatever, not as good though.

yeahh im looking into it. idk its hard to rank someone as a favorite based off of one album although i did that for quite a few. if one album just gets you, it GETS you. thats why favorite album's lists are more accurate for people's tastes cause every album is different.

[funkel]

haha well, I&W writes the best lyircs on that list, and seeing as i only moderately enjoyed his full band sound, i see him mostly as an acoustic/vocal guy. factor in the idea that music that is intricate and plays with several different styles is something that i value, its hard for a guy like that to REALLY compete with my top favorites. but i have loads of respect for the man.

but dude you're surprised to see flaming lips that high? have you heard my avatar? that shit is some incredible and wildly creative songwriting and production too, im surprised more people dont think so.
A lot of people love it. Most of what are deemed the "music forum elitists" are big fans.
I think it's just that you haven't been listening that long to that album, right? So it's odd to see it so high on your list.

[theguy77]

My like Top 4 are the only ones that don't constantly change. I know Sufjan Stevens and Manchester Orchestra would be in my Top 10 as of now.

SUFJAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[chipdip18]

It already is good.

Then you don't need a rating.

You don't like Eno or Slowdive, but you like the National and Simon and Garfunkel. You are weird.

Hey, they're good, but the latter two are better.

haha its true but im afraid you may be in the minority by thinking northstar > brand new. maybe they were comparable in deja days as both wrote top-notch pop-punk albums but brand new made TDAG and just left other scene bands in the dust.

Haha Brand New is still played out. And i stand by my judgement.

yeahh im looking into it. idk its hard to rank someone as a favorite based off of one album although i did that for quite a few. if one album just gets you, it GETS you. thats why favorite album's lists are more accurate for people's tastes cause every album is different.
Yeah, look at NMH on lists.

[theguy77]

A lot of people love it. Most of what are deemed the "music forum elitists" are big fans.
I think it's just that you haven't been listening that long to that album, right? So it's odd to see it so high on your list.

oh yeah well any time i make a favorites list its all about what is imapcting me the most RIGHT THAT MOMENT, i dont like being historical cause then that would put a lot of pop-punk on my list, which still holds a nostalgic place in my heart because of how important it was to my teenage years, but thats not accurate since i dont listen to it and respect it and enjoy it now like i used to. thats kind of what drives my inclination to get into discussions about pop-punk bands that i havent listened to regualrly in nearly a year now.

but i can also tell by how ridiculously well-written and innovative and how deep i perceived that flaming lips album to be, that its for sure one of my top notch favorites. to be clear i havent been listening to radiohead long at all either but, i just KNOW.

[theguy77]

<-- Best score so far. Bam.

<-- second best. *proud*

[GuitarR0cker1]

Holy fuck, I forgot about Iron & Wine. I was listening to them right now too.

[Tead42]

No particular order sorry lol ill do alphabetical :P

Blue October
Dashboard (I know lol)
Eminem
Four Year Strong
John Mayer
Mae
The Rocket Summer
Say Anything (Mainly Is a Real Boy)
SoCo
Sufjan Stevens

[versus_god]

Descendents
Dead Kennedys
The Replacements
Tom Waits
Elvis Costello
Hot Water Music
Dillinger Four
The Lawrence Arms
The Ergs!
The Weakerthans

[theguy77]

Descendents
Dead Kennedys
The Replacements
Tom Waits
Elvis Costello
Hot Water Music
Dillinger Four
The Lawrence Arms
The Ergs!
The Weakerthans

PONX P0NX

[ThisIsNotDan]

Foo Fighters
Cave In
Gatsbys American Dream
Rage Against The Machine
Death Cab For Cutie
The Junior Varsity
Fall Out Boy
The Beatles
Kings Of Leon
The Get Up Kids

[versus_god]

PONX P0NX
MY WAR

[chipdip18]

Holy fuck, I forgot about Iron & Wine. I was listening to them right now too. It would have boosted your score.

No particular order sorry lol ill do alphabetical :P

Blue October
Dashboard (I know lol)
Eminem
Four Year Strong
John Mayer
Mae
The Rocket Summer
Say Anything (Mainly Is a Real Boy)
SoCo
Sufjan Stevens

The only good two here are the last two, and Sufjan saves you much more than SoCo does. 2.0/10.0

Descendents
Dead Kennedys
The Replacements
Tom Waits
Elvis Costello
Hot Water Music
Dillinger Four
The Lawrence Arms
The Ergs!
The Weakerthans

So punx. Your list rarely changes, and seeing Tom Waits and Elvis Costello in there throws me off. I'm not a huge punk fan but you listen to the ones i like. 7.6/10.0

[nfgrox312]

this is what i've been listening to most lately.

Gasoline Heart
Chasing Victory
New Found Glory
Neutral Milk Hotel
The Wedding
We Are The Union
The Wonder Years
Kevin Devine
No Trigger
The Early November

[theguy77]

No particular order sorry lol ill do alphabetical :P

Blue October
Dashboard (I know lol)
Eminem
Four Year Strong
John Mayer
Mae
The Rocket Summer
Say Anything (Mainly Is a Real Boy)
SoCo
Sufjan Stevens

hahaha this list is gonna get trashed

nice edit though, sufjan easily pwns everything on here. given that you said "mainly IARB" say anything comes in as a not-so-close second place.

[TheOtherAndrew]

PONX P0NX
Authority status: defied.

[chipdip18]

Foo Fighters
Cave In
Gatsbys American Dream
Rage Against The Machine
Death Cab For Cutie
The Junior Varsity
Fall Out Boy
The Beatles
Kings Of Leon
The Get Up Kids

Neat seeing Rage on a list. 6.5/10.0

this is what i've been listening to most lately.

Gasoline Heart
Chasing Victory
New Found Glory
Neutral Milk Hotel
The Wedding
We Are The Union
The Wonder Years
Kevin Devine
No Trigger
The Early November

6.7/10.0

[theguy77]

It would have boosted your score.

The only good two here are the last two, and Sufjan saves you much more than SoCo does. 2.0/10.0

So punx. Your list rarely changes, and seeing Tom Waits and Elvis Costello in there throws me off. I'm not a huge punk fan but you listen to the ones i like. 7.6/10.0

hey this is irrelevant to the quote, just trying to get your attention but i was wondering why you arent big on death cab anymore? did it happen suddenly? i somehow perceived that you were almost as big a fan as me.

[c_rob2700]

SUFJAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:nod:

[GuitarR0cker1]

It would have boosted your score.

haha I figured so but I&W is pretty odd for because I always forget to listen to him regularly but when I do I love it.

[chipdip18]

hey this is irrelevant to the quote, just trying to get your attention but i was wondering why you arent big on death cab anymore? did it happen suddenly? i somehow perceived that you were almost as big a fan as me.

Eh, not really, i'm gettin really selective on my Death Cab recently, which is weird since i'm seeing them next month. I don't know, it sort of is all of a sudden. But it's not getting enough points on these ratings, but it's helping.

[Pat k]

does anyone on this board listen to neutral milk hotel?

[ThisIsNotDan]

one thing I guess I'm sort of confused about is a band being "played out" on a list affecting the score. I mean yes, it seems that everyone and their mother puts a band like The Beatles on a list, but thats not something you should put someone at fault for if those certain bands really are close to them. not a complaint, just a point I thought I'd bring up

[theguy77]

haha I figured so but I&W is pretty odd for because I always forget to listen to him regularly but when I do I love it.

yeah its generally the same for me cause on a regular basis i tend to prefer music that's more developed. but he is quite refreshing as is nick drake.

Eh, not really, i'm gettin really selective on my Death Cab recently, which is weird since i'm seeing them next month. I don't know, it sort of is all of a sudden. But it's not getting enough points on these ratings, but it's helping.

yeah thats kind of disappointing for me, but its cool tastes change. idk i got all 6 of death cab's albums, i absolutely LOVE five of those six (the other is just okay and barely worthwhile because of the atmosphere it produces), and while i love them for a comPLETELY different reason than i love radiohead they still deserve that #2 spot easily.

[chipdip18]

one thing I guess I'm sort of confused about is a band being "played out" on a list affecting the score. I mean yes, it seems that everyone and their mother puts a band like The Beatles on a list, but thats not something you should put someone at fault for if those certain bands really are close to them. not a complaint, just a point I thought I'd bring up

What it ultimate comes down to is that these lists are all solely based on my likes and dislikes, so being "played out" is all subjective. Brand New is played out to me, and i judge according to me. These ratings are completely unfair, hopefully people know that when they post their lists.

[chipdip18]

yeah its generally the same for me cause on a regular basis i tend to prefer music that's more developed. but he is quite refreshing as is nick drake.



yeah thats kind of disappointing for me, but its cool tastes change. idk i got all 6 of death cab's albums, i absolutely LOVE five of those six (the other is just okay and barely worthwhile because of the atmosphere it produces), and while i love them for a comPLETELY different reason than i love radiohead they still deserve that #2 spot easily.

Haha yeah, two of their albums get some play from time to time. Still a solid band.

[ThisIsNotDan]

What it ultimate comes down to is that these lists are all solely based on my likes and dislikes, so being "played out" is all subjective. Brand New is played out to me, and i judge according to me. These ratings are completely unfair, hopefully people know that when they post their lists.

oh word gotcha. haha I'd hope no one thinks these are gonna be unbiased rankings haha

[theguy77]

Haha yeah, two of their albums get some play from time to time. Still a solid band.

im surprised you picked out brendan canning on my list, i had no idea you were a fan. ive been bumping his thread to no avail, just cant get attention on this forum. which is surprising too since craig made that thread as a recommendation haha. i find that his solo work is actually better than broken social scene together.

[chipdip18]

oh word gotcha. haha I'd hope no one thinks these are gonna be unbiased rankings haha

Haha yeah, these are all totally biased haha.

im surprised you picked out brendan canning on my list, i had no idea you were a fan. ive been bumping his thread to no avail, just cant get attention on this forum. which is surprising too since craig made that thread as a recommendation haha. i find that his solo work is actually better than broken social scene together.

Yeah, Brendan Canning had a good album. Yeah, i liked it better than Broken Social Scene as well, i should post in there haha.

[theguy77]

Yeah, Brendan Canning had a good album. Yeah, i liked it better than Broken Social Scene as well, i should post in there haha.

word. i feel i'd rate your taste quite highly haha ive always admired the way you look at music and what you value in it. the resident IZ fan -- i have heard that album actually, my dad has it, it is BEAUTIFUL

[GuitarR0cker1]

yeah its generally the same for me cause on a regular basis i tend to prefer music that's more developed. but he is quite refreshing as is nick drake.



yeah thats kind of disappointing for me, but its cool tastes change. idk i got all 6 of death cab's albums, i absolutely LOVE five of those six (the other is just okay and barely worthwhile because of the atmosphere it produces), and while i love them for a comPLETELY different reason than i love radiohead they still deserve that #2 spot easily.
Yeah he still gets tons of love from me but I generally want something more complex or something that seems like it is more complex musically.

I had no idea you loved death cab so much. It is good to see another huge fan on here. I am so excited to seem them live, even my Dad is stoked for it(he just bought Narrow Stairs lol). What is your favorite album of their's?

[chipdip18]

word. i feel i'd rate your taste quite highly haha ive always admired the way you look at music and what you value in it. the resident IZ fan -- i have heard that album actually, my dad has it, it is BEAUTIFUL

Facing Future is excellent, and E Ala E is great, those are his best two by far haha. Love them.

[Use me!]

brand new
mewithoutyou
anberlin
four year strong
thrice
bayside
motion city sound track
death cab
say anything
manchester orchestra
This is the most stereotypical list of bands ever. Not saying that I dislike most of these bands, but I laugh out louded.

[Pat k]

Facing Future is excellent, and E Ala E is great, those are his best two by far haha. Love them.

Noticed you dudes were talking about Hawaiian music. http://www.amazon.com/Olomana/dp/B000005U26/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1236227424&sr=8-5

That is my favorite Hawaiian record. And this is my favorite song off that record, and my favorite Hawaiian song period. An absolutely classic Hawaiian jam you might get into.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHP-7VBgZBU

[theguy77]

Blink-182, Yellowcard, Jack's Mannequin, Say Anything, Jimmy Eat World, Manchester Orchestra, Bon Iver, Sufjan Stevens, Thrice, The Get Up Kids. This is more of a Top 10 lately. I'm open for rec's as well.

you seem to have an inclination for indie-folk sounds in between your fast-paced pop-rock tastes. vinh's probably got plenty of proper recs for you if you asked. you ever hear the decemberists? i think you might like their album picaresque.

[chipdip18]

Blink-182, Yellowcard, Jack's Mannequin, Say Anything, Jimmy Eat World, Manchester Orchestra, Bon Iver, Sufjan Stevens, Thrice, The Get Up Kids. This is more of a Top 10 lately. I'm open for rec's as well.

3.8/10.0. You got Bon Iver, Sufjan Stevens there. And where did this sudden flare for TGUK come from? They're good.

[theguy77]

Yeah he still gets tons of love from me but I generally want something more complex or something that seems like it is more complex musically.

I had no idea you loved death cab so much. It is good to see another huge fan on here. I am so excited to seem them live, even my Dad is stoked for it(he just bought Narrow Stairs lol). What is your favorite album of their's?

TRANSATLANTICISM none of the other records come close but then the next four, in order: plans, something about airplanes, photo album, narrow stairs. those four are really relaly close together though.

[theguy77]

OH fucking bon iver. *kicks self* i LOVE his music hahaha i might have gotten the 8.5 if i had him in

[chipdip18]

Hahaha Ryan.

[theguy77]

haha yeah he deserves to be in, but after that i dont know who else i could fit in, feist is the last artist that i'd be okay with just pushing out of my top 20. im gonna edit him just to make myself feel better.

[chipdip18]

hahah go for it.

[theguy77]

done. so since you rated, we have the decemberists at #15, and bon iver at #12, and jimmy eat world and feist out. i probably have another 10 honorable mentions even after my top 20.

[chipdip18]

Haha that improves the list noticeably.

[c_rob2700]

you seem to have an inclination for indie-folk sounds in between your fast-paced pop-rock tastes. vinh's probably got plenty of proper recs for you if you asked. you ever hear the decemberists? i think you might like their album picaresque.
I'm at that stage where I still love pop-punk but I also want to broaden my musical tastes into something more fleshed out and deeper which is why i've been listening to a ton of Vernon, Hull, and Stevens. Heard of them,never listened

[Robototron]

Lately:

Les Savy Fav
Do Make Say Think
Mono (both the British & Japanese bands)
Rufus Wainwright
The Smiths
Spoon
Kraftwerk
The Rapture
Phoenix
Hot Cross

Judge me.

[donwagenblast]

Circa Survive
Underoath
Brand New
Coheed and Cambria
The Receiving End of Sirens
New Found Glory
Bayside
Dance Gavin Dance (Downtown Battle Mountain-era, if it makes a difference)
A Day To Remember
Kanye West


take it easy on a fellow Pokemon enthusiast?

[c_rob2700]

3.8/10.0. You got Bon Iver, Sufjan Stevens there. And where did this sudden flare for TGUK come from? They're good.

STWHA has been playing in my car for a couple weeks now, ha ha

[theguy77]

Haha that improves the list noticeably.

hahah yeah i feel like pushing out jimmy eat world and adding in bon iver makes me look pretentious but its the truth! haha, jimmy eat world's still a fucking great pop-rock band though.

I'm at that stage where I still love pop-punk but I also want to broaden my musical tastes into something more fleshed out and deeper which is why i've been listening to a ton of Vernon, Hull, and Stevens. Heard of them,never listened

yeah its a key stage really, i was taking it slowly for awhile cause i wanted to get all the enjoyment i could out of pop-punk, but once it started to really get old i just pushed this transition into overdrive and its been so rewarding, found so many different ways that i can enjoy and perceive music. as far as manchester orchestra, i feel that they are a very watered down example of that sound and really just a transitional band but hey that may just be me.

[Burn That Shit]

01. At the Drive-In
02. Q and Not U
03. Refused
04. Hot Water Music
05. Kidcrash
06. Cursive
07. Velvet Underground
08. The Pixies
09. Neutral Milk Hotel
10. Sonic Youth

Not in any specific order, left numbers in from the album thread.

[theguy77]

Haha that improves the list noticeably.

how much? you rated me an 8 at first :-d

[chipdip18]

Lately:

Les Savy Fav
Do Make Say Think
Mono (both the British & Japanese bands)
Rufus Wainwright
The Smiths
Spoon
Kraftwerk
The Rapture
Phoenix
Hot Cross

Judge me.

Mono, Spoon, Rufus, are all good. The Smiths just gives you cred haha. I'll give you like a 6.8/10.0

Circa Survive
Underoath
Brand New
Coheed and Cambria
The Receiving End of Sirens
New Found Glory
Bayside
Dance Gavin Dance (Downtown Battle Mountain-era, if it makes a difference)
A Day To Remember
Kanye West


take it easy on a fellow Pokemon enthusiast?

Hahah Well. The only two i really listen to at all any more in any regularly fashion are Brand New, The Receiving End of Sirens and Circa Survive. The last two pretty infrequently. I can't give you much more than like a 3.7 haha, but at least you didn't list of 100% cliche bands thus far. I've seen far too much Manchester Orchestra for example haha.

01. At the Drive-In
02. Q and Not U
03. Refused
04. Hot Water Music
05. Kidcrash
06. Cursive
07. Velvet Underground
08. The Pixies
09. Neutral Milk Hotel
10. Sonic Youth

Not in any specific order, left numbers in from the album thread.

Oooo you cleaned really nicely with 6-10, and At the Drive-In is good, although i was never a big fan. Let's go with a 7 even.

how much? you rated me an 8 at first :-d

I'll give you .4 more.

[theguy77]

8.4, YES! BEAT THAT, ANYONE WHO ISNT A POST-ROCK FANATIC

hahaha /exclusive exception

[viva la cymche!]

1. Algernon Cadwallader
2. Saves The Day
3. Envy
4. Animal Collective
5. Candiria
6. Tokyo Police Club
7. Maps & Atlases
8. Minus The Bear
9. No Knife
10. The Blood Brothers
11. Poison The Well
12. Tera Melos

[porttheman]

1. Sigur Ros
2. The Cardigans
3. Portugal,The Man
4. Godspeed You! Black Emperor
5. Mew
6. Tool(yea,thats right)
7. Mono
8. God Is An Astronaut
9.Nada Surf
10.Radiohead

[chipdip18]

1. Algernon Cadwallader
2. Saves The Day
3. Envy
4. Animal Collective
5. Candiria
6. Tokyo Police Club
7. Maps & Atlases
8. Minus The Bear
9. No Knife
10. The Blood Brothers
11. Poison The Well
12. Tera Melos

Algernon and Animal Collective carry this list, there are some okay ones in there. The Blood Brothers was a solid choice. 4.4/10.0

1. Sigur Ros
2. The Cardigans
3. Portugal,The Man
4. Godspeed You! Black Emperor
5. Mew
6. Tool(yea,thats right)
7. Mono
8. God Is An Astronaut
9.Nada Surf
10.Radiohead

I really dislike Tool but i really love GY!BE. Nice seeing Nada Surf. 6.2/10.0

[theguy77]

I really dislike Tool but i really love GY!BE. Nice seeing Nada Surf. 6.2/10.0

man tool must have really turned you off haha i thought his list was pretty impressive actually.

[chipdip18]

I'm not an enormous fan of God Is An Astronaut and Mew and The Cardigans. And i really do hate Tool haha.

[Troggy]

Whoa Chippindippin this thread came out of nowhere...good idea, but I must say, I'm not sure if you are enough of a douchebag to pull it off. You are handing out some pretty low scores I see, so perhaps this works.

And you know what: I kinda like Tool. Their last two albums are both good.

[chipdip18]

Whoa Chippindippin this thread came out of nowhere...good idea, but I must say, I'm not sure if you are enough of a douchebag to pull it off. You are handing out some pretty low scores I see, so perhaps this works.

And you know what: I kinda like Tool. Their last two albums are both good.

Haha i'm not enough of a douchebag, this is true. That and i can't think of witty responses to lists.

I can't do Tool. Just can't do it.

[theguy77]

haha i just dont think im aware of enough music to do it correctly, some people post lists and im like what the fuck ARE those bands?!

[thespearkid]

Haha sounds like fun.

Neutral Milk Hotel
Cloud Cult
mewithoutYou
Elliott Smith
Iron & Wine
Eminem
Weatherbox
The Dear Hunter
Kanye West
Weezer

[chipdip18]

Haha sounds like fun.

Neutral Milk Hotel
Cloud Cult
mewithoutYou
Elliott Smith
Iron & Wine
Eminem
Weatherbox
The Dear Hunter
Kanye West
Weezer

Shoooooooot. You are hit or miss as well. NMH, ES, IW, are your best. Kanye and Eminem turn me off here, if you had some 90s Hip Hop you'd be getting a better score. The others are a bit too wishy-washy for my taste. Although Weatherbox isn't. Eh, 4.7/10.0

[Troggy]

Haha i'm not enough of a douchebag, this is true. That and i can't think of witty responses to lists.

Oh well, this thread is really moving along despite all this.

I can't do Tool. Just can't do it.

haha, you know what, I just laugh off all their "complexity" and "deepness" and all that, they write some really good alternative rock style riffs and they are actually getting pretty decent at instrumental/atmospherics too...I love "disposition" off Lateralus...also their songs are pretty fun to play on guitar hero world tour. we love playing parabola.

what i don't like are tool fans. you know what i'm talking about. when they write songs about aliens it makes me laugh, i don't take the band srsly at all, except maybe the songs about Maynard's mother from the last record, those have some decent lyrics to them.

haha i just dont think im aware of enough music to do it correctly, some people post lists and im like what the fuck ARE those bands?!

for srs...i recognize these names but heck if i have ever checked out any of them.

[theguy77]

A+ thread man

but i would probably think it was a C- thread if you gave me a low score hahaha

[donwagenblast]

I can't do Tool. Just can't do it.


clearly you don't watch Tool Academy

[thespearkid]

Shoooooooot. You are hit or miss as well. NMH, ES, IW, are your best. Kanye and Eminem turn me off here, if you had some 90s Hip Hop you'd be getting a better score. The others are a bit too wishy-washy for my taste. Although Weatherbox isn't. Eh, 4.7/10.0
You mean to say Weatherbox isn't wishy-washy in a good way or bad way? And 90's hip-hop is definitely not my thing. I prefer the modern production in hip-hop.

[chipdip18]

Oh well, this thread is really moving along despite all this.



haha, you know what, I just laugh off all their "complexity" and "deepness" and all that, they write some really good alternative rock style riffs and they are actually getting pretty decent at instrumental/atmospherics too...I love "disposition" off Lateralus...also their songs are pretty fun to play on guitar hero world tour. we love playing parabola.

what i don't like are tool fans. you know what i'm talking about. when they write songs about aliens it makes me laugh, i don't take the band srsly at all, except maybe the songs about Maynard's mother from the last record, those have some decent lyrics to them.



for srs...i recognize these names but heck if i have ever checked out any of them.

Well thank you sir.

Yeah, Tool fans = junkies. And i didn't like Tool on guitar hero haha, i just can't listen to those guys. I'm too caught up in my pop-folk i guess haha.

A+ thread man

but i would probably think it was a C- thread if you gave me a low score hahaha

Haha very possibly.

clearly you don't watch Tool Academy
I have not even heard of it.

[chipdip18]

You mean to say Weatherbox isn't wishy-washy in a good way or bad way? And 90's hip-hop is definitely not my thing. I prefer the modern production in hip-hop.

In a good way, and to each his own on Hip-hop. There's some good modern stuff i like, Blue Scholars, Common Market.

[Troggy]

1. Converge
2. Incubus
3. The Black Keys
4. Opeth
5. David Crowder Band
6. Iron and Wine
7. Agalloch
8. New Found Glory
9. Nickel Creek
10. Hanson / Radiohead

Just a note: I do love all the cool kids stuff like NMH and Refused and everything, but bands can't qualify for my list unless they release at least 3 albums I really like/love, so I will never consider NMH my favorite band, although Aeroplane is one of my favorite albums.

[donwagenblast]

I have not even heard of it.

It's a ridiculous reality show on VH1, and wildly entertaining.

[Troggy]

Yeah, Tool fans = junkies.

Yeah that's the part about Tool that sucks. I mean honestly, their music doesn't sound like it is on drugs, how much more straightforward rocking can you be than some of their singles? Parabola, The Pot, stuff like that, it's not like I'm trippin out here. I don't understand the whole deal, the band is great at holding my attention for 7-10 minutes, but it's not because they are exceedingly strange.

[erinfxs]

I'd expect my list to get like a 1.0
When I can think of it properly, like pick ten bands who I really enjoy, like properly then I'll post it. Maybe later, I'm bad at decisions and lists haha.

[kemichels]

A list from the top of my head:

Brand New (never really got into YFW...moreso a strict Devil and God and (I'm assuming) onward fan. Deja was pretty good, though as you've mentioned...played out.
Doomtree
Wu Tang Clan (Can this just encompass all of the members? Especially Raewkown, Ghost, and ODB)
Thrice
Pedro the Lion
Engine Down
Mew
Manchester Orchestra
As Cities Burn
Tom Waits

[kemichels]

In a good way, and to each his own on Hip-hop. There's some good modern stuff i like, Blue Scholars, Common Market.

Blue Scholars and Common Market are so, so good.

[chipdip18]

1. Converge
2. Incubus
3. The Black Keys
4. Opeth
5. David Crowder Band
6. Iron and Wine
7. Agalloch
8. New Found Glory
9. Nickel Creek
10. Hanson / Radiohead

Just a note: I do love all the cool kids stuff like NMH and Refused and everything, but bands can't qualify for my list unless they release at least 3 albums I really like/love, so I will never consider NMH my favorite band, although Aeroplane is one of my favorite albums. You've got an interesting list here. Hanson and Converge on the same list haha. Eh, but i'm turned off by NFG and am not a fan of Opeth. 5.4/10.0

It's a ridiculous reality show on VH1, and wildly entertaining.

Haha i can only imagine.

Yeah that's the part about Tool that sucks. I mean honestly, their music doesn't sound like it is on drugs, how much more straightforward rocking can you be than some of their singles? Parabola, The Pot, stuff like that, it's not like I'm trippin out here. I don't understand the whole deal, the band is great at holding my attention for 7-10 minutes, but it's not because they are exceedingly strange.

It really doesn't sound too druggy, but i can see why people think that. They just need to hear real psychedlic rock haha.

[chipdip18]

Brand New
Doomtree
Wu Tang Clan (Can this just encompass all of the members?)
Thrice
Pedro the Lion
Engine Down
Mew
Manchester Orchestra
As Cities Burn
Tom Waits

I'm glad i'm seeing Pedro The Lion show up on lists. The Progess EP is incredible. One of the greatest things to come out of 2000. Obvious Radiohead exceptions though. Engine Down is a poor man's Gatsbys though. 4.9/10.0

[Troggy]

You've got an interesting list here. Hanson and Converge on the same list haha. Eh, but i'm turned off by NFG and am not a fan of Opeth. 5.4/10.0

haha, Opeth is sick. You're not a metal guy though so I understand. NFG snuck on there since Not Without a Fight being good qualified them for the list (+NGCS and S/T).

It really doesn't sound too druggy, but i can see why people think that. They just need to hear real psychedlic rock haha.

yeah for sure...I mean I guess to the Slipknot crowd, Tool is pretty out there and deep or something...I don't know, I just really like progressive type music and what can I say, they write solid songs.

[kemichels]

I'm glad i'm seeing Pedro The Lion show up on lists. The Progess EP is incredible. One of the greatest things to come out of 2000. Obvious Radiohead exceptions though. Engine Down is a poor man's Gatsbys though. 4.9/10.0

I've just been listening to Engine Down a lot lately and miss them somewhat, so I threw them on. Plus I'm in love with Denali and I'm stoked about their reunion.

David Bazan is probably one of the best songwriters of our generation. and yeah, idk about Radiohead, I loved OK Computer and another one of their cds (I forgot the name offhand), but I can't for the fucking life of me get into Radiohead's newer stuff.

[AllenLee]

What it ultimate comes down to is that these lists are all solely based on my likes and dislikes, so being "played out" is all subjective. Brand New is played out to me, and i judge according to me. These ratings are completely unfair, hopefully people know that when they post their lists.

lol atleast the man is being honest

[wtfmates]

Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds
Cursive
Brand New
Bright Eyes
The Blood Brothers
Sage Francis
Okkervil River
Stars
Modest Mouse
M83

[chipdip18]

I've just been listening to Engine Down a lot lately and miss them somewhat, so I threw them on. Plus I'm in love with Denali and I'm stoked about their reunion.

David Bazan is probably one of the best songwriters of our generation. and yeah, idk about Radiohead, I loved OK Computer and another one of their cds (I forgot the name offhand), but I can't for the fucking life of me get into Radiohead's newer stuff.

Yeah, i only have two Radiohead albums in the regular rotation, Ok Computer and Kid A, but Hail to the Theif and In Rainbows are worth listening to still in my opinion.

lol atleast the man is being honest

Haha thanks.

Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds
Cursive
Brand New
Bright Eyes
The Blood Brothers
Sage Francis
Okkervil River
Stars
Modest Mouse
M83

This is a good list. Brand New and M83 makes it sag a bit, but every artist here is at least solid. 7.8/10.0

[Foosimoo]

Eh, a few could probably be switched out, but whatever.

Death Cab for Cutie
DeVotchKa
Final Fantasy
Islands
Los Campesinos!
Man Man
Mew
Ra Ra Riot
The Shins
Wolf Parade

[kemichels]

Thank you for some Mew love.

[wtfmates]

Yay, chipdip likes my music.

[Jumpoff]

Propagandhi
Tom Waits
Neutral Milk Hotel
Andrew Jackson Jihad
The Wailers
The Slackers
Against Me!
Off with their Heads
Descendents
Dead Kennedys

[AllenLee]

I've just been listening to Engine Down a lot lately and miss them somewhat, so I threw them on. Plus I'm in love with Denali and I'm stoked about their reunion.

David Bazan is probably one of the best songwriters of our generation. and yeah, idk about Radiohead, I loved OK Computer and another one of their cds (I forgot the name offhand), but I can't for the fucking life of me get into Radiohead's newer stuff.

I own all 7 records and I'm a huge Radiohead fan and I agree, their first 4 albums(Pablo Honey, The Bends, OK Compluter and Kid A) are amazing and their last 3(Amnesiac, Hail to the Thief and In Rainbows) for some reason I can't get into.

[secretsociety92]

Aerosmith
Ozzy Osbourne
Blondie
Def Leppard
Muse
Duran Duran
Ultravox
Manic Street Preachers
T. Rex
INXS

[chipdip18]

Eh, a few could probably be switched out, but whatever.

Death Cab for Cutie
DeVotchKa
Final Fantasy
Islands
Los Campesinos!
Man Man
Mew
Ra Ra Riot
The Shins
Wolf Parade
It's cool seeing Ra Ra Riot make a list. Not bad overall, but not overtly impressive. 6.5/10.0

Propagandhi
Tom Waits
Neutral Milk Hotel
Andrew Jackson Jihad
The Wailers
The Slackers
Against Me!
Off with their Heads
Descendents
Dead Kennedys

This is a sweet list. Not a fan of the Dead Kennedys though. Way to be reppin' some more solid pop-punk/punk. 7.4/10.0

Aerosmith
Ozzy Osbourne
Blondie
Def Leppard
Muse
Duran Duran
Ultravox
Manic Street Preachers
T. Rex
INXS

Eh, really not a fan of anyone, save a few Muse tunes (Absolution mostly) and Manic Street Preachers good. 2.1/10.0

[kearn1tm]

[luminary folk artist circa 1960s-mid '70s]
[Avant-garde minimalist composer from the 1960s]
[Pre-Jazz Fusion artist]
[Protopunk artist]
[Post-Rock pioneer]
[contemporary singer-songwriter]
[obligatory hip-hop artist...but not recent]
[artist that falls somewhere within the evolution of Musique concrète to No Wave/Industrial/Ambient to Electronic to IDM]
[Country artist to create illusion of diversity...but it must be Alt Country, minus Twang]
[trendy contemporary Indie artist of any genre]Sock it to me.

[kearn1tm]

I've always wanted to do it, and i am now cause i feel like it.

Give me your top ten favorite artists, and i'll slap a score out of 10.0 on it, and maybe a few comments.

How about you post yours and all critique it for some much needed levity (and balance)?

I love this idea.

Everyone does.

They told me.

I need to make one of these threads.

[chipdip18]

[luminary folk artist circa 1960s-mid '70s]
[Avant-garde minimalist composer from the 1960s]
[Pre-Jazz Fusion artist]
[Protopunk artist]
[Post-Rock pioneer]
[contemporary singer-songwriter]
[obligatory hip-hop artist...but not recent]
[artist that falls somewhere within the evolution of Musique concrète to No Wave/Industrial/Ambient to Electronic to IDM]
[Country artist to create illusion of diversity...but it must be Alt Country, minus Twang]
[trendy contemporary Indie artist of any genre]Sock it to me.

9.2/10.0

[chipdip18]

How about you post yours and all critique it for some much needed levity (and balance)?

I love this idea.

Everyone does.

They told me.

I need to make one of these threads.

You make your judging thread and you can bash my list until your heart's desires are satisfied sir.

[kearn1tm]

sweet!!!

1. Radiohead
2. Death Cab For Cutie
3. Brand New
4. The Flaming Lips
5. Sufjan Stevens
6. Elliott Smith
7. The Beatles
8. Kevin Devine
9. William Doyle
10. Bright Eyes
11. American Analog Set
12. Bon Iver
13. Brendan Canning
14. Iron And Wine
15. The Decemberists
16. Beck
17. Nick Drake
18. Pedro the Lion
19. The Weakerthans
20. Fleet Foxes

My First 'Indie Top 20': for when you've reached a point in life where cred is important.

[kearn1tm]

9.2/10.0

So, your dyslexia has ruined the score. Go back and change the mistyped 9.2 into your intended 26.

You make your judging thread and you can bash my list until your heart's desires are satisfied sir.

...but I enjoy you, so I'd more than likely be gentle.

[chipdip18]

So, your dyslexia has ruined the score. Go back and change the mistyped 9.2 into your intended 26.



...but I enjoy you, so I'd more than likely be gentle.

Oh, my mistake. My dyslexia has gotten the better of me before. Here is your real score: 10.1/10.0

Well thank you kindly, and i think at least having GY!BE on my list has got to get me some real credit.

[kearn1tm]

Oh, my mistake. My dyslexia has gotten the better of me before. Here is your real score: 10.1/10.0

Well thank you kindly, and i think at least having GY!BE on my list has got to get me some real credit.

It's about the equivalent of having Neutral on your list. It's hard to tell if it's about trendiness or actual enjoyment (though, I imagine with you, it's sincere).

[chipdip18]

It's about the equivalent of having Neutral on your list. It's hard to tell if it's about trendiness or actual enjoyment (though, I imagine with you, it's sincere).

I can only express anything about In the Aeroplane Over the Sea, or Neutral Milk Hotel in general with sincerety. I think a deciding factor for people would be whether or not they have heard the song Engine.

[TheOtherAndrew]

1 http://cdn.last.fm/flatness/global/icon_play.png (http://www.last.fm/music/Bomb+the+Music+Industry%21?autostar t) Bomb the Music Industry! (http://www.last.fm/music/Bomb+the+Music+Industry%21)

1,018
2 http://cdn.last.fm/flatness/global/icon_play.png (http://www.last.fm/music/The+Lawrence+Arms?autostart) The Lawrence Arms (http://www.last.fm/music/The+Lawrence+Arms)

836
3 http://cdn.last.fm/flatness/global/icon_play.png (http://www.last.fm/music/The+Weakerthans?autostart) The Weakerthans (http://www.last.fm/music/The+Weakerthans)

556
4 http://cdn.last.fm/flatness/global/icon_play.png (http://www.last.fm/music/Bright+Eyes?autostart) Bright Eyes (http://www.last.fm/music/Bright+Eyes)

348
5 http://cdn.last.fm/flatness/global/icon_play.png (http://www.last.fm/music/The+Beatles?autostart) The Beatles (http://www.last.fm/music/The+Beatles)

321
6 http://cdn.last.fm/flatness/global/icon_play.png (http://www.last.fm/music/The+Clash?autostart) The Clash (http://www.last.fm/music/The+Clash)

304
7 http://cdn.last.fm/flatness/global/icon_play.png (http://www.last.fm/music/The+Gaslight+Anthem?autostart) The Gaslight Anthem (http://www.last.fm/music/The+Gaslight+Anthem)

295
8 http://cdn.last.fm/flatness/global/icon_play.png (http://www.last.fm/music/The+Ergs%21?autostart) The Ergs! (http://www.last.fm/music/The+Ergs%21)

266
9 http://cdn.last.fm/flatness/global/icon_play.png (http://www.last.fm/music/Andrew+Jackson+Jihad?autostart) Andrew Jackson Jihad (http://www.last.fm/music/Andrew+Jackson+Jihad)

256
10 http://cdn.last.fm/flatness/global/icon_play.png (http://www.last.fm/music/Against+Me%21?autostart) Against Me! (http://www.last.fm/music/Against+Me%21)

252
11 http://cdn.last.fm/flatness/global/icon_play.png (http://www.last.fm/music/Sundowner?autostart) Sundowner (http://www.last.fm/music/Sundowner)

237
12 http://cdn.last.fm/flatness/global/icon_play.png (http://www.last.fm/music/Jimmy+Eat+World?autostart) Jimmy Eat World (http://www.last.fm/music/Jimmy+Eat+World)

233
13 http://cdn.last.fm/flatness/global/icon_play.png (http://www.last.fm/music/NOFX?autostart) NOFX (http://www.last.fm/music/NOFX)

223
14 http://cdn.last.fm/flatness/global/icon_play.png (http://www.last.fm/music/Less+Than+Jake?autostart) Less Than Jake (http://www.last.fm/music/Less+Than+Jake)

221
15 http://cdn.last.fm/flatness/global/icon_play.png (http://www.last.fm/music/Bruce+Springsteen?autostart) Bruce Springsteen (http://www.last.fm/music/Bruce+Springsteen)

203
15 http://cdn.last.fm/flatness/global/icon_play.png (http://www.last.fm/music/Tom+Waits?autostart) Tom Waits (http://www.last.fm/music/Tom+Waits)

203
17 http://cdn.last.fm/flatness/global/icon_play.png (http://www.last.fm/music/Bad+Astronaut?autostart) Bad Astronaut (http://www.last.fm/music/Bad+Astronaut)

202
BAM!

[TheOtherAndrew]

p.s. I'm not used to pasting shit from last.fm. hah.

[kearn1tm]

I can only express anything about In the Aeroplane Over the Sea, or Neutral Milk Hotel in general with sincerety. I think a deciding factor for people would be whether or not they have heard the song Engine.

Completely tangential rant: It would be nice if people realized there was Post-Rock beyond Godspeed You! and Battles.

[oddwithoutend]

Completely tangential rant: It would be nice if people realized there was Post-Rock beyond Godspeed You! and Battles.

What do you reccommend?

[kearn1tm]

What do you reccommend?

Slint -- Spiderland
Bark Psychosis -- Hex
Talk Talk -- Laughing Stock
Mono -- One More Step and You Die

[c_rob2700]

yeah its a key stage really, i was taking it slowly for awhile cause i wanted to get all the enjoyment i could out of pop-punk, but once it started to really get old i just pushed this transition into overdrive and its been so rewarding, found so many different ways that i can enjoy and perceive music. as far as manchester orchestra, i feel that they are a very watered down example of that sound and really just a transitional band but hey that may just be me.

I don't want to make a full transition because some of those albums hold a special memory/time in my life. But I am getting more and more interested in everything outside of the "scene". I figure it would be ignorant to just listen to one type of music when there's 1000's out there. Just, a chance to broaden my musical horizons, ya know?

[Troggy]

It's about the equivalent of having Neutral on your list. It's hard to tell if it's about trendiness or actual enjoyment (though, I imagine with you, it's sincere).

I know what you mean. I like some stuff that might build my AP.net cred, but honestly, they aren't my favorite bands and they're not necessarily my favorite albums either. Like I said, I just can't let Neutral Milk Hotel be on my favorite bands list since I only have one album of theirs, and although it is quite wonderful, that just doesn't work. Same with other artists like Nick Drake, I love Pink Moon, but I am not really that interested in his other records so I wouldn't say he is one of my favorite artists.

[chipdip18]

1 http://cdn.last.fm/flatness/global/icon_play.png (http://www.last.fm/music/Bomb+the+Music+Industry%21?autostar t) Bomb the Music Industry! (http://www.last.fm/music/Bomb+the+Music+Industry%21)

1,018
2 http://cdn.last.fm/flatness/global/icon_play.png (http://www.last.fm/music/The+Lawrence+Arms?autostart) The Lawrence Arms (http://www.last.fm/music/The+Lawrence+Arms)

836
3 http://cdn.last.fm/flatness/global/icon_play.png (http://www.last.fm/music/The+Weakerthans?autostart) The Weakerthans (http://www.last.fm/music/The+Weakerthans)

556
4 http://cdn.last.fm/flatness/global/icon_play.png (http://www.last.fm/music/Bright+Eyes?autostart) Bright Eyes (http://www.last.fm/music/Bright+Eyes)

348
5 http://cdn.last.fm/flatness/global/icon_play.png (http://www.last.fm/music/The+Beatles?autostart) The Beatles (http://www.last.fm/music/The+Beatles)

321
6 http://cdn.last.fm/flatness/global/icon_play.png (http://www.last.fm/music/The+Clash?autostart) The Clash (http://www.last.fm/music/The+Clash)

304
7 http://cdn.last.fm/flatness/global/icon_play.png (http://www.last.fm/music/The+Gaslight+Anthem?autostart) The Gaslight Anthem (http://www.last.fm/music/The+Gaslight+Anthem)

295
8 http://cdn.last.fm/flatness/global/icon_play.png (http://www.last.fm/music/The+Ergs%21?autostart) The Ergs! (http://www.last.fm/music/The+Ergs%21)

266
9 http://cdn.last.fm/flatness/global/icon_play.png (http://www.last.fm/music/Andrew+Jackson+Jihad?autostart) Andrew Jackson Jihad (http://www.last.fm/music/Andrew+Jackson+Jihad)

256
10 http://cdn.last.fm/flatness/global/icon_play.png (http://www.last.fm/music/Against+Me%21?autostart) Against Me! (http://www.last.fm/music/Against+Me%21)

252
11 http://cdn.last.fm/flatness/global/icon_play.png (http://www.last.fm/music/Sundowner?autostart) Sundowner (http://www.last.fm/music/Sundowner)

237
12 http://cdn.last.fm/flatness/global/icon_play.png (http://www.last.fm/music/Jimmy+Eat+World?autostart) Jimmy Eat World (http://www.last.fm/music/Jimmy+Eat+World)

233
13 http://cdn.last.fm/flatness/global/icon_play.png (http://www.last.fm/music/NOFX?autostart) NOFX (http://www.last.fm/music/NOFX)

223
14 http://cdn.last.fm/flatness/global/icon_play.png (http://www.last.fm/music/Less+Than+Jake?autostart) Less Than Jake (http://www.last.fm/music/Less+Than+Jake)

221
15 http://cdn.last.fm/flatness/global/icon_play.png (http://www.last.fm/music/Bruce+Springsteen?autostart) Bruce Springsteen (http://www.last.fm/music/Bruce+Springsteen)

203
15 http://cdn.last.fm/flatness/global/icon_play.png (http://www.last.fm/music/Tom+Waits?autostart) Tom Waits (http://www.last.fm/music/Tom+Waits)

203
17 http://cdn.last.fm/flatness/global/icon_play.png (http://www.last.fm/music/Bad+Astronaut?autostart) Bad Astronaut (http://www.last.fm/music/Bad+Astronaut)

202
BAM!

You snag a 7.9/10.0 Plus your bonus two.

Completely tangential rant: It would be nice if people realized there was Post-Rock beyond Godspeed You! and Battles.

Haha there are, the Post-Rock thread is a great place to discuss that. You should join in that thread.

Slint -- Spiderland
Bark Psychosis -- Hex
Talk Talk -- Laughing Stock
Mono -- One More Step and You Die

All good recs.

[oddwithoutend]

Slint -- Spiderland
Bark Psychosis -- Hex
Talk Talk -- Laughing Stock
Mono -- One More Step and You Die

Thanks man. I'm liking slint and mono a lot.

[theguy77]

I don't want to make a full transition because some of those albums hold a special memory/time in my life. But I am getting more and more interested in everything outside of the "scene". I figure it would be ignorant to just listen to one type of music when there's 1000's out there. Just, a chance to broaden my musical horizons, ya know?

yeah thats good, and just because you're broadening your horizons doesnt mean you have to hate all scene music afterwards, even though a loss of interest in it and a condescending attitude towards the scene in general happens naturally. for me two things happened:

1) i thought some scene music was "deep" until i heard music that is ACTUALLY "deep" songwriting/production/experimentation-wise (and also lyrics-wise in a few cases), and while my appreciation for certain scene albums didnt vanish, i realized how one dimensional it was and that it generally had one simple form of appeal. meanwhile, a band like radiohead has multifaceted appeal on most of their records. i found that a lot of those scene bands really only had a myopic variant of pop appeal (i.e. raw teenage emotion and/or angst), and a lot of the bands ive been getting into lately retain a pop sound (albeit a much different one) to some extent, but theres something bigger and more profound underneath that accessibility that i couldnt find the words to explain to you.

2) i thought the scene had a fair amount of "diversity" and that the bands sounded different, but then i ventured outside the scene and found that a lot of the more worthwhile bands REALLY stand on their own and are just not comparable to any music i know of at least -- that isnt to say that any of them are doing what hasnt been done but they tend to have their own unique BLEND of established styles, some of which come from half a century ago while others may come from other countries. and again when you go back and make the comparison to the scene you realize that in context the scene bands really arent that different from each other either. a few albums might stand out for making the sound better and more complex than everybody else but its generally done in an almost identical format -- all the ones i was into mostly started with the same framework nirvana used to write their songs, then for style they blended watered down versions of melodic hardcore/pop-punk with lite-rock/midwestmo from the 90s, and occassionally added in a technique cheaply derived from electronica/ambient music as a vain gimmick attempt to set them apart from the other bands, and that was their sound. its amazing how many pre-2005 pop-punk bands followed that exact formula verbatim, and the only difference between them really is the vocals and lyrics (but even then they all started making their voices more nasal and thin than they really are, and using the same metaphors and the same tongue-in-cheek one-liner lyrical styles). nowadays they even get the same exact audio engineering jobs done on their albums and the voices/lyrics/musical arrangements are almost indistinguishable.

so with all that realized i kind of figured i dont give a fuck about the scene as a whole anymore hahaha. in its defense, it does have that nostalgic teenage emotional appeal that can hardly be found anywhere else but that does little to salvage a band like something corporate when there are bands like the flaming lips and animal collective out there who are doing a million things at once in each of their albums, while STILL retaining a heavy focus on pop and accessibility. but hey i do still enjoy an occassional listen of the scene bands i consider to be the best, and dont let my personal experience spiel detract from your own personal enjoyment of that kind of music. when you're ready to move on, you will.

[theguy77]

[luminary folk artist circa 1960s-mid '70s]
[Avant-garde minimalist composer from the 1960s]
[Pre-Jazz Fusion artist]
[Protopunk artist]
[Post-Rock pioneer]
[contemporary singer-songwriter]
[obligatory hip-hop artist...but not recent]
[artist that falls somewhere within the evolution of Musique concrète to No Wave/Industrial/Ambient to Electronic to IDM]
[Country artist to create illusion of diversity...but it must be Alt Country, minus Twang]
[trendy contemporary Indie artist of any genre]Sock it to me.

#9 is almost ALWAYS bright eyes for "scene kids" and wilco for "hipsters"

[porttheman]

I really dislike Tool but i really love GY!BE. Nice seeing Nada Surf. 6.2/10.0

Yea, I figured i wasnt gonna get a high score with Tool.but its all good. Im alil suprised youre not a fan of GIAA or Mew.

[Dr. Acula]

sweet!!!

1. Radiohead
2. Death Cab For Cutie
3. Brand New
4. The Flaming Lips
5. Sufjan Stevens
6. Elliott Smith
7. The Beatles
8. Kevin Devine
9. William Doyle
10. Bright Eyes
11. American Analog Set
12. Bon Iver
13. Brendan Canning
14. Iron And Wine
15. The Decemberists
16. Beck
17. Nick Drake
18. Pedro the Lion
19. The Weakerthans
20. Fleet Foxes

The Flaming Lips are #4? Interesting. I thought you had just discovered them recently. I know, who am I to judge, asshole!

Anyway, seeing this list reminds me how weird it is to watch kids who were listening to "scene" oriented shit, jump ship for what is deemed cooler around here. I can never tell if it's actually genuine evolution or an insecure kid wanting to impress a different set of people. Interesting thing to watch over the years.

[Klatzke]

I've always wanted to do it, and i am now cause i feel like it.

Give me your top ten favorite artists, and i'll slap a score out of 10.0 on it, and maybe a few comments.
I'm preparing to get torn apart:

Castledoor
Chasing Victory
Blindside
Astronautalis
Lovedrug
Death Cab
Minus the Bear
From Autumn to Ashes
Miniature Tigers
And recently.. Grammatics

[thesafeword]

Who the fuck are you to judge my music? Just kidding.

Cap'n Jazz
At the Drive-In
Brand New
Throw Me the Statue
Bear vs. Shark
The Promise Ring
Sufjan Stevens
Hot Cross
Jets to Brazil
Saves the Day

[theguy77]

The Flaming Lips are #4? Interesting. I thought you had just discovered them recently. I know, who am I to judge, asshole!

Anyway, seeing this list reminds me how weird it is to watch kids who were listening to "scene" oriented shit, jump ship for what is deemed cooler around here. I can never tell if it's actually genuine evolution or an insecure kid wanting to impress a different set of people. Interesting thing to watch over the years.

hahaha if you read my posts in the radiohead threads (if ben's was still here) you'd know it was totally genuine, i really really held off on the expansion too, i was insecure about the idea of leaving the old stuff behind because of how much of my energy i'd spent defending it and writing it and how important it was to my teenagehood. i didnt have the motivation to move on from it for the longest time until one day it kind of clicked that for the overwhelming majority it had gotten old to me and lost its charm after 5 years of listening to it.

[MyWorldEntire]

1. Radiohead
2. The Beatles
3. Brand New
4. Bruce Springsteen
5. Wilco
6. Arcade Fire
7. Built To Spill
8. Neutral Milk Hotel
9. Explosions In The Sky
10. Death Cab For Cutie

[theguy77]

rate this guy's list highly plz, even given that it consists entirely of artists that are heavily discussed on here

[porttheman]

hahahaha

[chipdip18]

I'm preparing to get torn apart:

Castledoor
Chasing Victory
Blindside
Astronautalis
Lovedrug
Death Cab
Minus the Bear
From Autumn to Ashes
Miniature Tigers
And recently.. Grammatics

I don't want to be rude, but were you trying to be cool by adding lesser known artist? If so, then Spoon, Gatsbys and The Mars Volta would have sufficed for Grammatics, Chasing Victory and Castledoor (not in that door mind you). 6.2/10.0

Who the fuck are you to judge my music? Just kidding.

Cap'n Jazz
At the Drive-In
Brand New
Throw Me the Statue
Bear vs. Shark
The Promise Ring
Sufjan Stevens
Hot Cross
Jets to Brazil
Saves the DayI like it a lot a lot. You are sitting on like some 7.7/10.0 junk here.

Ooooo i like this list. I love seeing Cap'n Jazz and The Promise Ring.

1. Radiohead
2. The Beatles
3. Brand New
4. Bruce Springsteen
5. Wilco
6. Arcade Fire
7. Built To Spill
8. Neutral Milk Hotel
9. Explosions In The Sky
10. Death Cab For Cutie

8.1/10.0. Listen to GY!BE instead of Explosions and upgrade your indie Death Cab to a Iron & Wine and i'll see your Brand New and raise you a Bright Eyes. But some sweet names here,

[Klatzke]

I don't want to be rude, but were you trying to be cool by adding lesser known artist? If so, then Spoon, Gatsbys and The Mars Volta would have sufficed for Grammatics, Chasing Victory and Castledoor (not in that door mind you). 6.2/10.0


Uh, or, that was my most played on Zune. Take your pick. Seeing as each of the eleven Castledoor songs I own have been played upwards of 40 times, Chasing Victory I've listened to for years, and Grammatics has already worked its way onto the most played artists of mine in the short time I've been aware of them -- I'd say it's much more likely that.

I think if I'd been trying to add lesser known artists, I'd have snuck in something a little more "trendy" than those. Don't believe my opinions on those artists? Plenty of proof scattered throughout AP to hold them up.

[chipdip18]

Uh, or, that was my most played on Zune. Take your pick. Seeing as each of the eleven Castledoor songs I own have been played upwards of 40 times, Chasing Victory I've listened to for years, and Grammatics has already worked its way onto the most played artists of mine in the short time I've been aware of them -- I'd say it's much more likely that.

I think if I'd been trying to add lesser known artists, I'd have snuck in something a little more "trendy" than those. Don't believe my opinions on those artists? Plenty of proof scattered throughout AP to hold them up.

Oh no sorry if it came as an attack, i was just curious. But they aren't bad less known bands, which makes me think you weren't listing those to sound cool.

[Klatzke]

Oh no sorry if it came as an attack, i was just curious. But they aren't bad less known bands, which makes me think you weren't listing those to sound cool.
ohh, ok. I thought that was like, direct confrontation ;-) there goes my internet comprehension. By the way.. how is Chasing Victory "not well known?" I would have actually figured they were one of the better known ones, compared to say, Astro/MT

[chipdip18]

ohh, ok. I thought that was like, direct confrontation ;-) there goes my internet comprehension. By the way.. how is Chasing Victory "not well known?" I would have actually figured they were one of the better known ones, compared to say, Astro/MT
I don't think they're well known, and i know Astronautalis. Maybe i'm wrong though.

[Klatzke]

I don't think they're well known, and i know Astronautalis. Maybe i'm wrong though.
I thought they were, like, signed to Mono vs Stereo at one point, released a cliche metalcore album.. hah

[chipdip18]

I thought they were, like, signed to Mono vs Stereo at one point, released a cliche metalcore album.. hah

Hahaha i had no idea they were signed to Mono vs Stereo, interesting. Well i missed that one.

[Klatzke]

Hahaha i had no idea they were signed to Mono vs Stereo, interesting. Well i missed that one.
Before MvS went under. They broke up in.. 2k7? I believe and I think MvS went under pretty quickly after that.

[chipdip18]

Hmm i see, haha i'm glad you've got all sorts of facts on it haha.

[Klatzke]

Hmm i see, haha i'm glad you've got all sorts of facts on it haha.
they're up there in my favorite bands, and there's only so much to learn after they've broken up.

[chipdip18]

Hahaha good point, good point.

[phil19]

alkaline trio
coheed and cambria
rise against
bayside
pennywise
nfg
brand new
afi
cat stevens
skid row

[chipdip18]

alkaline trio
coheed and cambria
rise against
bayside
pennywise
nfg
brand new
afi
cat stevens
skid row

3.9/10.0 I don't really like any of these bands, Brand New and Rise Against are your best picks probably. I'm not a fan of Alkaline Trio, and barely a fan of Coheed.

[tfar06]

recently:
Baroness
Adai
Mew
Faraquet
Constants
Title Fight
Transit
The Reptilian
Irepress
New Found Glory

All Time:
RHCP
Incubus
Deftones
Fear Before
Alexisonfire
Daitro
Raein
La Quiete
Pelican
Converge

(all in no order)

[chipdip18]

recently:
Baroness
Adai
Mew
Faraquet
Constants
Title Fight
Transit
The Reptilian
Irepress
New Found Glory

All Time:
RHCP
Incubus
Deftones
Fear Before
Alexisonfire
Daitro
Raein
La Quiete
Pelican
Converge

(all in no order)


Not a huge fan of most of these bands, but you get a 4.2/10.0 Title Fight, Pelican are my favorites listed.

[phil19]

3.9/10.0 I don't really like any of these bands, Brand New and Rise Against are your best picks probably. I'm not a fan of Alkaline Trio, and barely a fan of Coheed.

thanks mate.
awesome thread btw

[tfar06]

Not a huge fan of most of these bands, but you get a 4.2/10.0 Title Fight, Pelican are my favorites listed.
i looked at your profile and we do have very different tastes. but thanks for your input, i like threads like this.

[chipdip18]

thanks mate.
awesome thread btw

i looked at your profile and we do have very different tastes. but thanks for your input, i like threads like this.

You guys are awesome. Way to be content with your artists and not mind a low score. Admirable.

[chipdip18]

C'mon who else wants it?

[kwsqd]

I want itttttt badly

edit:
Pearl Jam
Radiohead
The Beatles
Cursive
Thursday
Sigur Ros
Mogwai
The Dave Brubeck Quartet
Talib Kweli
The Appleseed Cast

[just.Starla.]

Bright Eyes
She and Him
Lady GaGa
Say Anything
Death Cab for Cutie
Blink 182
Frou Frou
Weezer
Lily Allen
The Postal Service

[bard]

posted from the top 10 albums thread:

impossible for me to do a top ten cause there are so many genres, but here are some of my favorites in no particular order:

mewithoutYou - Catch For Us The Foxes (this is absolutely my number one of all time)
mewithoutYou - Brother, Sister
mewithoutYou - [A->B] Life
zao - where blood and fire brings rest (their best)
zao - (self-titled)
the elected - me first
grandaddy - the sophtware slump
grandaddy - sumday (their best)
m83 - dead cities, lost ghosts, and red seas
m83 - before the dawn heals us
norma jean - bless the marty, kiss the child (their best)
dillinger escape plan - miss machine (their best)
the locust - safety second, body last ep
the locust - new erections
between the buried and me - colors (recorded and live versions)
every time i die - the big dirty (their best)
training for utopia - throwing a wrench into the american music machine
pAperchAse - now you are one of us
pAperchAse - ctrl-alt-del-u ep



lol, that's all i'm going to list. so many more

[trindaddy]

I'll go with my current favorites I've been listening to the most recently, in no order really.
The Heligoats
Neutral Milk Hotel
Alkaline Trio
Owen
Brand New
Thursday
The Dear Hunter
mos def
Talib Kweli
Thrice

[chipdip18]

I want itttttt badly

edit:
Pearl Jam
Radiohead
The Beatles
Cursive
Thursday
Sigur Ros
Mogwai
The Dave Brubeck Quartet
Talib Kweli
The Appleseed Cast

Oh man, if you didn't have Pearl Jam i would be stoked. Although not a huge fan of Thursday and Talib Kweli, so munch on a tastey 7.8/10.0

Bright Eyes
She and Him
Lady GaGa
Say Anything
Death Cab for Cutie
Blink 182
Frou Frou
Weezer
Lily Allen
The Postal Service

You started off with a bang of a Bright Eyes, and hit rock bottom at blink. Shoot uh..... like a 3.4/10.0

I'll go with my current favorites I've been listening to the most recently, in no order really.
The Heligoats
Neutral Milk Hotel
Alkaline Trio
Owen
Brand New
Thursday
The Dear Hunter
mos def
Talib Kweli
Thrice

Alright, alright, workable, but still holding back. 5.4/10.0

posted from the top 10 albums thread:

Probably like 2.0/10.0 not my stuff really at all.

[bard]

lol

[chipdip18]

Sorry, but yeah haha.

[kwsqd]

Oh man, if you didn't have Pearl Jam i would be stoked. Although not a huge fan of Thursday and Talib Kweli, so munch on a tastey 7.8/10.0
Thanks!

I know most people on here don't like Pearl Jam, so I shouldn't have included it. What if I replaced PJ with the Mars Volta? Or just took them off the list? What would that do for my score?

[chipdip18]

Thanks!

I know most people on here don't like Pearl Jam, so I shouldn't have included it. What if I replaced PJ with the Mars Volta? Or just took them off the list? What would that do for my score?

It probably would have gone up haha.

[kwsqd]

well, I'm asking how much!

[chipdip18]

I don't know, it depends on the artist, i don't think The Mars Volta would give you much more, maybe like .3 or so.

[kwsqd]

well, at least I'd crack the 8.0 barrier

[chipdip18]

True, and not many people are doing that. The highest rating given out was a 8.9, and it probably should have been a 9.

[kwsqd]

I'm fairly certain that if I gave you my list two years ago, it would have been a 4 or 5, so hopefully by next year I'll have a ten.

[bard]

chipdip, i had a 2.0 but you said that it "wasn't your stuff really..."

why a 2.0 then? what DID you lkie?

[bard]

also, why are you "qualified" to rate our music taste?

[kearn1tm]

hahaha if you read my posts in the radiohead threads (if ben's was still here) you'd know it was totally genuine, i really really held off on the expansion too, i was insecure about the idea of leaving the old stuff behind because of how much of my energy i'd spent defending it and writing it and how important it was to my teenagehood. i didnt have the motivation to move on from it for the longest time until one day it kind of clicked that for the overwhelming majority it had gotten old to me and lost its charm after 5 years of listening to it.

"If you'd read my posts in which I tell everyone I'm sincere, you'd know I was being sincere because I told everyone I am."

You're too easy, Ryan. Ha.

#9 is almost ALWAYS bright eyes for "scene kids" and wilco for "hipsters"

Other than parts of Cassadaga, Oberst hasn't really done anything "alt country." Those kids are silly. Give them some Mekons.

[kearn1tm]

also, why are you "qualified" to rate our music taste?

He never claimed he was. It's purely out of fun, and you indulged him by posting your list. Where's the problem?

[Troggy]

chipdip, i had a 2.0 but you said that it "wasn't your stuff really..."

why a 2.0 then? what DID you lkie?

also, why are you "qualified" to rate our music taste?

LOL, because he started the thread obv. I know the bands you are talking about, so I will rate your music instead.

mewithoutYou - Catch For Us The Foxes (this is absolutely my number one of all time)
mewithoutYou - Brother, Sister
mewithoutYou - [A->B] Life
zao - where blood and fire brings rest (their best)
zao - (self-titled)
the elected - me first
grandaddy - the sophtware slump
grandaddy - sumday (their best)
m83 - dead cities, lost ghosts, and red seas
m83 - before the dawn heals us
norma jean - bless the marty, kiss the child (their best)
dillinger escape plan - miss machine (their best)
the locust - safety second, body last ep
the locust - new erections
between the buried and me - colors (recorded and live versions)
every time i die - the big dirty (their best)
training for utopia - throwing a wrench into the american music machine
pAperchAse - now you are one of us
pAperchAse - ctrl-alt-del-u ep

I would give this way too big list a 4.1/10. You get some points for having Catch for Us the Foxes as your favorite mwY album, since it is also my favorite. Zao is a decent choice, but Self-Titled is definitely not their second best by any means. Norma Jean, ETID, BTBAM, ugh...those lose points. Dillinger Escape Plan is always nice, but Calculating Infinity earns more Troggy points. Also there is not much variety here, so that does not earn you much favor.

[kearn1tm]

Those acting petulant as a result of their list being granted a low score by a fellow poster is hilarious.

Try your luck here: http://absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=922152

I'm qualified to do such a thread...I own a Dylan vinyl!

[bard]

lol, i wasn't criticizing the guy, just curiosity.

and self-titled is an amazing album.

also, old dillinger is trying to hard to be chaotic

and why not btbam, norma jean, and etid?

and kearn, i'm not being serious. just discussing music bro

[AllenLee]

why do you people care so much about chipdip's opinion?

[TheOtherAndrew]

I'm qualified to do such a thread...I own a Dylan vinyl!
I OWN THE BASEMENT TAPES ON WAX CYLINDER, WHAT.

[AllenLee]

Those acting petulant as a result of their list being granted a low score by a fellow poster is hilarious.

Try your luck here: http://absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=922152

I'm qualified to do such a thread...I own a Dylan vinyl!

I own a britney spears cd, does that count for anything?

[Troggy]

why do you people care so much about chipdip's opinion?

HIS FAVOR VALIDATES OUR EXISTANCE! ALL HAIL CHIPDIP!

x

[TheOtherAndrew]

why do you people care so much about chipdip's opinion?
Yeah, why is this guy actively promoting discussion on a message board? FUCKING ASBSURDITY!!!!!

[Divinehand]

Sigur Ros
The Smiths
Bright Eyes
Explosions in the Sky
Elliott Smith
Radiohead
American Nightmare
Ringworm
Converge
Between the Buried and Me

[kwsqd]

HIS FAVOR VALIDATES OUR EXISTANCE! ALL HAIL CHIPDIP!

x
EXISTENCE

x

[WhitestKidUKnow]

what I'm listening to a lot right now is...

brand new
the mars volta
the sound of animals fighting
circle takes the square
midtown
the receiving end of sirens
she & him

[kearn1tm]

and kearn, i'm not being serious. just discussing music bro

It's all good, sis.

...what?

[kearn1tm]

I own a britney spears cd, does that count for anything?

You appreciate pop-culture kitsch. I give you six Andy Warhol pop art portraits/10

[TheOtherAndrew]

You appreciate pop-culture kitsch. I give you six Andy Warhol pop art portraits/10
hahaha

[kearn1tm]

I OWN THE BASEMENT TAPES ON WAX CYLINDER, WHAT.

I make my own music from the recorded sounds of my neighbor's mentally challenged dog making love to the toaster while plugged in and translate it to musical brain thought waves powered by will and love.

Yeah. I wear blazers with ironic t-shirts too!

[TheOtherAndrew]

I make my own music from the recorded sounds of my neighbor's mentally challenged dog making love to the toaster while plugged in and translate it to musical brain thought waves powered by will and love.

Yeah. I wear blazers with ironic t-shirts too!
That's so hip that I have no choice but to assume you were friends with Jack White pre-White Blood Cells.

[kwsqd]

I make my own music from the recorded sounds of my neighbor's mentally challenged dog making love to the toaster while plugged in and translate it to musical brain thought waves powered by will and love.

Yeah. I wear blazers with ironic t-shirts too!
oh shit, he just shot the moon.

[kearn1tm]

what I'm listening to a lot right now is...

brand new
the mars volta
the sound of animals fighting
circle takes the square
midtown
the receiving end of sirens
she & him

Brand New means you're clearly a iconoclast, defying the norms of scene culture and proudly proclaiming "I'm a unique music listener with individualistic ideals and thoughts and opinions of merit and substance."

CTtS implies you like useless merch.

She & Him would suggest you're straight.

A Chiodos dude's project is indicative of your proclivity to wear a form-fitting v-neck swearer with black skinny jeans because "you don't conform to a particular style, man!"

Volta? So...you like bombastic and pompous noise that attempts to be Experimental but really just sounds like Mahavishnu Orchestra?.

If this were 2001, your enjoyment of Midtown would make you "underground."

Clearly, you're a man with a taste for the finer musaks! Teach me the ways. 89 thermal nitted American Apparel v-neck sweaters/10

[TheOtherAndrew]

Brand New means you're clearly a iconoclast, defying the norms of scene culture and proudly proclaiming "I'm a unique music listener with individualistic ideals and thoughts and opinions of merit and substance."
*goes to change away message to "DIE YOUNG AND SAVE YOURSELLFFFFFFF"*

[theguy77]

"If you'd read my posts in which I tell everyone I'm sincere, you'd know I was being sincere because I told everyone I am."

You're too easy, Ryan. Ha.

hahahaha you're hard.

....

Other than parts of Cassadaga, Oberst hasn't really done anything "alt country." Those kids are silly. Give them some Mekons.

yeah cassadaga is what i was aiming at really. im like the only person who thinks thats some of his best work.

[TheOtherAndrew]

Ryan, Cassadaga is sex for the ears.

[kearn1tm]

That's so hip that I have no choice but to assume you were friends with Jack White pre-White Blood Cells.

I'll never when he called me up talking about Warner Brothers and I'm like "look Jack, remember how we struggled in Detroit like it was 'Nam to get our music out?! I was about the sound, brother. It was about the fucking thunder. I lost a lot of good groupies out there...What, man, what? You want moneys? Honeys? What, man?1 I'll suck your dick when you need it. I'll buy you White Castle. Don't sell your soul."

It was the weirdest thing, because the voice on the other end kept saying "Todd, I have no idea who Jack White is, but as your parole officer, I must insist you stop calling me by that name...and I'd like a White Castle."

[kearn1tm]

*goes to change away message to "DIE YOUNG AND SAVE YOURSELLFFFFFFF"*

OMGushers! I can RELATE to that! Who sangs it?

hahahaha you're hard.

....

How...how did you know? There isn't even windows in here.



yeah cassadaga is what i was aiming at really. im like the only person who thinks thats some of his best work.

I thought it was Oberst's best work since LIFTED, but then, I'm one of the few who thinks most of his work post-LIFTED was pedestrian.

[theguy77]

Ryan, Cassadaga is sex for the ears.

more like ears for the sex. bringing a new fetish to the table of the monotonous intercourse with similar genres of music.

[TheOtherAndrew]

OMGushers! I can RELATE to that! Who sangs it?
I dunno man but they're the next fucking Incubus with lyrics like that

[theguy77]

How...how did you know? There isn't even windows in here.

you forgot windows vista. and people say it's useless...

I thought it was Oberst's best work since LIFTED, but then, I'm one of the few who thinks most of his work post-LIFTED was pedestrian.

haha i totally learned the adjective meaning of this word from you, and i used it in real life and the people i was with told me it made me sound like a snob. LOL

[kearn1tm]

more like ears for the sex. bringing a new fetish to the table of the monotonous intercourse with similar genres of music.

Uh, copulating is 'in' again, Ryan. They remastered sex and now the reissues are bringing it back. It's as if you don't read blogs!

I dunno man but they're the next fucking Incubus with lyrics like that

Love them. That Buddy Holly song was rad.



haha i totally learned the adjective meaning of this word from you, and i used it in real life and the people i was with told me it made me sound like a snob. LOL

You must shoehorn it a Northbrook lyric. Don't try to make it sound natural. Make it incredibly ostentatious and gaudy. Then, give me co-writing credits.

Oh, and I'm still waiting on those liner notes, ass. It's been three days since I've got some. Need some liner notes.

[TheOtherAndrew]

Love them. That Buddy Holly song was rad.
So glad they returned to form with C I V I L W A R

[theguy77]

Uh, copulating is 'in' again, Ryan. They remastered sex and now the reissues are bringing it back. It's as if you don't read blogs!

fuck you i'm post-modern, telepathy is the new media

You must shoehorn it a Northbrook lyric. Don't try to make it sound natural. Make it incredibly ostentatious and gaudy. Then, give me co-writing credits.

Oh, and I'm still waiting on those liner notes, ass. It's been three days since I've got some. Need some liner notes.

CDs come with electronic news tickers now, havent you heard?