Rush Limbaugh, really?

[Nevuk]

Um, is he actually head of the party or not. I can't tell anymore.

(http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0309/19596.html

and if he is, what the fuck is wrong with the republican party?

[TranslateTheNam]

Um, is he actually head of the party or not. I can't tell anymore.

(http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0309/19596.html

and if he is, what the fuck is wrong with the republican party?

Why is Rush such a topic when he is just a radio show host. The guy has no policy voting power. I just find it sad that a party would attack a free speaker with a radio show. He is a citizen with an opinion, his hoping for failure was from an ideological standpoint. Freedom of speech is a wonderful thing. Dems just need a punching bag, a side part of that article.

[captainhampton]

they're just giving him more attention. exactly what he wants. they are playing into his hands.

[StillTrying1288]

Really so more attention that brings him to the forefront and allows him to alienate moderates with his views. Look nobody has taken a stand against Rush in the Republican Party and its complete idiocy. Let him alienate the moderates who you are trying to bring back.

[TranslateTheNam]

Your confusing Rush with a Politician. Whilst he has listeners, he has no voting power on policies. Why would anyone have to stand up to him unless they are competing for ratings? The only people alienating moderates are the leftist dems. Why do you think Lieberman and 15 other dems held a closed conference the other day. They are starting to realize how much 4 trillion dollars really is.

[J.C.]

Why do you think Lieberman and 15 other dems held a closed conference the other day. They are starting to realize how much 4 trillion dollars really is.

They're just now starting to? Perhaps they should've given it a thought before they supported blowing that much in Iraq.

[saysmydoctor]

Why is Rush such a topic when he is just a radio show host. The guy has no policy voting power. I just find it sad that a party would attack a free speaker with a radio show. He is a citizen with an opinion, his hoping for failure was from an ideological standpoint. Freedom of speech is a wonderful thing. Dems just need a punching bag, a side part of that article.
So, wait, Obama has to apologize for his Reverend's incendiary words even though he is an clergyman allowed to use his pulpit to spew his beliefs but the republicans don't--and instead have to apologize to HIM for his incendiary remarks? Now this is the most ass backwards double standard ever.

[x togepi x]

I wish the leftist dems actually existed.

[StillTrying1288]

So, wait, Obama has to apologize for his Reverend's incendiary words even though he is an clergyman allowed to use his pulpit to spew his beliefs but the republicans don't--and instead have to apologize to HIM for his incendiary remarks? Now this is the most ass backwards double standard ever.

Bingo. Couldn't have stated it better.

[TranslateTheNam]

They're just now starting to? Perhaps they should've given it a thought before they blew that much in Iraq.

I see where your going with that point. Although clearly a joke, the fact is the Obama administration has spent more money in the last 2 months than Bush ever did in Iraq. Also to say we "blew" that money is kind of desecration of the hard work and lost lives in Iraq to give them the opportunity to live in a free/safe country.

on a side note....HOW DID YOU FIND ME HERE! Stay in the religious thread.

[StillTrying1288]

I see where your going with that point. Although clearly a joke, the fact is the Obama administration has spent more money in the last 2 months than Bush ever did in Iraq. Also to say we "blew" that money is kind of desecration of the hard work and lost lives in Iraq to give them the opportunity to live in a free/safe country.

on a side note....HOW DID YOU FIND ME HERE! Stay in the religious thread.

We did blow that money. This isn't meant to dishonor the lives that have been lost. The original mission was to protect America because Iraq was a threat. Yet in the end it wasn't. Only until that became evident did it become about giving Iraq the opportunity to be a free/safe country.

How isn't he going to be spending more? Look at the situation we are in, what else are we supposed to do? Do I support the bill 100%, no I don't, but it's glad to see something being done for us.

[saysmydoctor]

You mean we spent billions upon billions of dollars to impose our idea of what kind of freedom another nation's people should have, right?

[J.C.]

I see where your going with that point. Although clearly a joke

Wasn't. You said those members of congress were finally starting to realize how much trillions of dollars is. Perhaps they should've given it a thought when they decided to support the investment of trillions of dollars in Iraq.

the fact is the Obama administration has spent more money in the last 2 months than Bush ever did in Iraq.

Bush's decision to invade/occupy Iraq could cost us something along the lines of 3 trillion by the time is all said and done.

Where the hell are you pulling this 4 trillion number out of?

Also to say we "blew" that money is kind of desecration of the hard work and lost lives in Iraq to give them the opportunity to live in a free/safe country.

I missed when the United States became the World Police. What country do you have your eye on next? How many trillions you want to set aside for overthrowing and rebuilding it?

[TranslateTheNam]

So, wait, Obama has to apologize for his Reverend's incendiary words even though he is an clergyman allowed to use his pulpit to spew his beliefs but the republicans don't--and instead have to apologize to HIM for his incendiary remarks? Now this is the most ass backwards double standard ever.

I dont remember If Obama ever apologized, I do know he denounced the remarks and said something like he didnt know his reverend had those views after spending 20+ yrs in the parish and having him conduct his wedding ceremony. Funny to see a democrate pointing out double standards after 8yrs of bush bashing. For comedy sake at 3 oclock in the morning, Obama's first day in office, he walked into a window heading to the oval office thinking it was a door. It was played once on fox news, I can only imagine if that was Bush.

[saysmydoctor]

I dont remember If Obama ever apologized, I do know he denounced the remarks and said something like he didnt know his reverend had those views after spending 20+ yrs in the parish and having him conduct his wedding ceremony. Funny to see a democrate pointing out double standards after 8yrs of bush bashing. For comedy sake at 3 oclock in the morning, Obama's first day in office, he walked into a window heading to the oval office thinking it was a door. It was played once on fox news, I can only imagine if that was Bush.
Serious? This is your response. Ok.

[TranslateTheNam]

Serious? This is your response. Ok.

your never worth responding to.

[saysmydoctor]

your never worth responding to.
I lol'd, because everything you said in here has been some of the more worthless dribble presented here. Even shady is better than you. Please share with us the source of $4 trillion number and I'll try taking you more seriously.

Oh and because I'm incredibly petty: you're*.

When you can address the double standard without utilizing some off topic red herring, come back to me.

[Duexy]

I lol'd, because everything you said in here has been some of the more worthless dribble presented here. Even shady is better than you. Please share with us the source of $4 trillion number and I'll try taking you more seriously.

Oh and because I'm incredibly petty: you're*.

When you can address the double standard without utilizing some off topic red herring, come back to me.



i think i love you

[TranslateTheNam]

Wasn't. You said those members of congress were finally starting to realize how much trillions of dollars is. Perhaps they should've given it a thought when they decided to support the investment of trillions of dollars in Iraq.

The Iraq war has not reached even 1 trillion dollars as of now. Its somewhere around 600 Billion.


Bush's decision to invade/occupy/liberate Iraq is probably going to cost us something along the lines of 3 trillion by the time is all said and done.

3 trillion seems ballooned. Although the war was underestimated in time and cost, I dont assume it will ever approach that actual cost.

Where the hell are you pulling this 4 trillion number out of?

upon further review I was wrong...I must of gotten money and promised jobs confused. I have to use the estimate of the 800 billion spending bill combined with 350 billion in interest. Plus budget spending of course.

I missed when the United States became the World Police. What country do you have your eye on next? How many trillions you want to set aside for overthrowing and rebuilding it?

I dont like the term world police. How bout protectors of basic freedom. Id keep an eye on Mexico and Iran though.


3:30...time for bed. I hate you all now.

[Jason Tate]

Shock jock. Nothing more.

[TranslateTheNam]

I lol'd, because everything you said in here has been some of the more worthless dribble presented here. Even shady is better than you. Please share with us the source of $4 trillion number and I'll try taking you more seriously.

Oh and because I'm incredibly petty: you're*.

When you can address the double standard without utilizing some off topic red herring, come back to me.

There is no double standard between a radio show host and a hateful preacher that our president spent 20 yrs listening to, then denies knowing what was said. I just puked in my mouth knowing my tax dollars are funding part of your education.

[Duexy]

:popcorn:

[Jason Tate]

http://i40.tinypic.com/efgi9g.jpg

[saysmydoctor]

There is no double standard between a radio show host and a hateful preacher that our president spent 20 yrs listening to, then denies knowing what was said. I just puked in my mouth knowing my tax dollars are funding part of your education.
0o6yrdInw6s

The incendiary remarks start 1:04. Come back to me.

Also, I pay taxes.

[J.C.]

I dont like the term world police. How bout protectors of basic freedom.

I can't believe you really think it's our job to police the World.

Id keep an eye on Mexico and Iran though.

You are certifiably nuts. It's unbelievable how willing you are to invest money rebuilding other countries while displaying outrage at the idea of spending it domestically. Just unreal.


3:30...time for bed. I hate you all now.

3 trillion.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/07/AR2008030702846_pf.html

[saysmydoctor]

I dont like the term world police. How bout protectors of basic freedom. Id keep an eye on Mexico and Iran though.


3:30...time for bed. I hate you all now.
:rotfl:

[StillTrying1288]

As much as it pains me to say it, I agree with the Mexico sentiment to some degree, but not before we get out of our mess.

[x togepi x]

how exactly is mexico a threat to the United States?

[StillTrying1288]

Not Mexico in itself. The drug cartel in Mexico is. Violence that should be contained in Mexico as their private matter does make it over the border. The Mexican government isn't a threat, but the drug cartel situation is especially when it's neighboring our country.

I'd just hope we could help a country that actually want's help if it can't get the situation under control. The amount of beheaded individuals is sickening. I'm not saying lets invade Mexico.

[xshady121]

Search. Function.

This is being talked about in atleast two other threads.

[Duexy]

so what

[Nevuk]

Search. Function.

This is being talked about in atleast two other threads.
I knew it would be, but it's a topic at least large enough for it's own thread. I'm just confused because is Rush actually in charge, or is that just something democrats felt like making up?

[igetmikey]

On a better note, he does pretty much have the most badass name around.

[xshady121]

I knew it would be, but it's a topic at least large enough for it's own thread. I'm just confused because is Rush actually in charge, or is that just something democrats felt like making up?

If you were just curious as to that, you would have checked the other threads, where it has been brought up and addressed.

[boykosaurus]

I see where your going with that point. Although clearly a joke, the fact is the Obama administration has spent more money in the last 2 months than Bush ever did in Iraq. Also to say we "blew" that money is kind of desecration of the hard work and lost lives in Iraq to give them the opportunity to live in a free/safe country.

on a side note....HOW DID YOU FIND ME HERE! Stay in the religious thread.

This is the tragically funny (sad) part of your post.

[Nevuk]

If you were just curious as to that, you would have checked the other threads, where it has been brought up and addressed.
Fuck off.

[Adeniz19]

rush limbaugh being the face of the republican party is fine by me.

[J.C.]

how exactly is mexico a threat to the United States?

http://www.timewarpmemories.com/speedy.jpg

[StillTrying1288]

http://www.timewarpmemories.com/speedy.jpg

Hahaha.

But like I said the issue isn't the Mexican government.

[a speedo model]

For comedy sake at 3 oclock in the morning, Obama's first day in office, he walked into a window heading to the oval office thinking it was a door. It was played once on fox news, I can only imagine if that was Bush.
I find this funny, because I haven't heard much of anything about this. If it was Bush, this would be everywhere, just think how many avatars would be related to it. People are pretty quick to say to support and respect Obama because he's our president and so on, Bush on the other hand...

[more heart]

I see where your going with that point. Although clearly a joke, the fact is the Obama administration has spent more money in the last 2 months than Bush ever did in Iraq. Also to say we "blew" that money is kind of desecration of the hard work and lost lives in Iraq to give them the opportunity to live in a free/safe country.

on a side note....HOW DID YOU FIND ME HERE! Stay in the religious thread.
I find it hard to believe that in 2 months, Obama has spent more than Bush did in 5 years in Iraq.

[CarryOn09]

I find it hard to believe that in 2 months, Obama has spent more than Bush did in 5 years in Iraq.
I find it hard to believe that people are bitching about the fact that Obama is trying to fix the epic fucking mess Bush created.

[Tead42]

3 trillion.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/07/AR2008030702846_pf.html
Before you start throwing out articles from the Washington Post, why don't you examine them just a little bit further. For one, this was posted March 9th, 2008. That is one year ago, and oh I bet its very accurate seeing as how nothing drastically changed in this past year dealing with money. Secondly, look who wrote it, an adviser under Bill Clinton. Case and point.

[saysmydoctor]

I really would like a response from that dumbass on my Limbaugh video.

[J.C.]

Before you start throwing out articles from the Washington Post, why don't you examine them just a little bit further. For one, this was posted March 9th, 2008. That is one year ago, and oh I bet its very accurate seeing as how nothing drastically changed in this past year dealing with money. Secondly, look who wrote it, an adviser under Bill Clinton. Case and point.

Any more ad hominems you want to toss out there before I proceed to work your shit?

http://money.cnn.com/2008/06/11/news/economy/iraq_war_hearing/index.htm?cnn=yes

[Tead42]

Any more ad hominems you want to toss out there before I proceed to work your shit?

http://money.cnn.com/2008/06/11/news/economy/iraq_war_hearing/index.htm?cnn=yes

Ooh you think your all cool because you learned some objections! And yes I have one, this was published June 12 2008; Before the economy turned south and before Obama came to office.

[J.C.]

Neither of those have anything to do with the discussion we were having, Isaac Newton.

[Tead42]

Except for the fact that its about money and the way we perceive and give out money has drastically changed in the past 8 months, Socrates.

[CarryOn09]

i think what everyone's trying to get at here (in a roundabout way), is this:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/170/390783029_b1f3768bbd_o.jpg

[J.C.]

Except for the fact that its about money and the way we perceive and give out money has drastically changed in the past 8 months, Socrates.

1. Between TARP and the stimulus, we've handed out more money in the past 8 months than we were spending on a regular basis prior.

2. This has absolutely squat to do with the argument that was being had, which was discussing the ramifications(which were part hypothetical since he's no longer in office) of Bush's actions. Just because our economy has changed, in large part due to him, doesn't alter the relevance of the predicted consequences. The fact is he entered us into a war with no clue about how much money it'd cost, how long it'd take, and how many lives we'd lose as a result. And a lot of the same people who defended that investment are the most vocal critics of the investment the Obama administration wants to make.

[LoginBanned]

Why is Rush such a topic when he is just a radio show host. The guy has no policy voting power. I just find it sad that a party would attack a free speaker with a radio show. He is a citizen with an opinion, his hoping for failure was from an ideological standpoint. Freedom of speech is a wonderful thing. Dems just need a punching bag, a side part of that article.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

[LoginBanned]

Just curious on what everyone thinks about the fairness doctrine?

[saysmydoctor]

Couldn't have said it better myself.
:wallbash:

[StillTrying1288]

Couldn't have said it better myself.

I'm sure this was discussed earlier in the thread.

[saysmydoctor]

Just curious on what everyone thinks about the fairness doctrine?
Granted, the media should it regardless, it is not the job of the Courts to tell companies how and how not to present the news. At that point, it comes down to the populace to establish who is truly fair and balanced.

[StillTrying1288]

Did anyone catch Thursday's Colbert Report? It had something on this subject.

[Tead42]

1. Between TARP and the stimulus, we've handed out more money in the past 8 months than we were spending on a regular basis prior.

2. This has absolutely squat to do with the argument that was being had, which was discussing the ramifications(which were part hypothetical since he's no longer in office) of Bush's actions. Just because our economy has changed, in large part due to him, doesn't alter the relevance of the predicted consequences. The fact is he entered us into a war with no clue about how much money it'd cost, how long it'd take, and how many lives we'd lose as a result. And a lot of the same people who defended that investment are the most vocal critics of the investment the Obama administration wants to make.

Could you please, please give me some factual evidence as to why the economy went down due to Bush. That's saying the same as it's Hoover's fault the Great Depression happened or for that matter it's Franklin Delano Roosevelt's fault we got into WWII, by the way you describe it.

[boykosaurus]

Granted, the media should it regardless, it is not the job of the Courts to tell companies how and how not to present the news. At that point, it comes down to the populace to establish who is truly fair and balanced.

I refuse to give that power to our populace.

[xshady121]

I refuse to give that power to our populace.
are you really arguing for the patriot act?

[HashHolly]

Could you please, please give me some factual evidence as to why the economy went down due to Bush. That's saying the same as it's Hoover's fault the Great Depression happened or for that matter it's Franklin Delano Roosevelt's fault we got into WWII, by the way you describe it.

humor me, if you don't think bush is at least a little responsible for the economy going to shit, who instead would you point that blame towards? Obama? Lollll

[LoginBanned]

Granted, the media should it regardless, it is not the job of the Courts to tell companies how and how not to present the news. At that point, it comes down to the populace to establish who is truly fair and balanced.

I agree. People also make the mistake of thinking that talk radio is news, it's not news it's commentary. Most talk radio stations are News/Talk, which means there about 5-10 minutes of news at the top or bottom of the hour and the rest of the time it's discussion and editorial.

Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity and anyone else are not journalists, they are pundits giving their opinion for entertainment purposes only. Would I like to see more balance? Sure. But progressive talk has proven to be highly unprofitable (see air america.)

Radio is an industry on life support and to mess with one of the only profitable format would be devasting. Radio already has something called "equal time" which means that a radio show isn't required to seek out multiple viewpoints, but if someone calls up with an opposing viewpoint the producer or host is legally required to put that viewpoint on the air.

[Meenaghey Aym]

hahaha libby dems freakin out over a radio talk show host. having a political view does not make you a politician. and government and economical politics are very different from ethical politics. while we all deal with ethical "politics" in everyday life including and most commonly the workplace. state governing ISSUES are not the same politics. and while the way someone does something that can be construed as unethical, it has nothing to do with whether there position on a policy issue is right or wrong. now it is true that if presented better, maybe it would be more clearly heard. but on both side of the wing these devices are used to detract from verifiable points that are simply presented in a way that can be construed as unethical. thus discounting the entire position...

[Meenaghey Aym]

humor me, if you don't think bush is at least a little responsible for the economy going to shit, who instead would you point that blame towards? Obama? Lollll

sure why not lmao!

[more heart]

Any more ad hominems you want to toss out there before I proceed to work your shit?

http://money.cnn.com/2008/06/11/news/economy/iraq_war_hearing/index.htm?cnn=yes

This

I just had a literary elements quiz today and ad hominems was on it..

[J.C.]

Did anyone catch Thursday's Colbert Report? It had something on this subject.

obsequious crack-licking

[musiclovr89]

he's absolutely ridiculous. haha.

[boykosaurus]

are you really arguing for the patriot act?

ha, no not at all, just making a jab at the American populace.

[Meenaghey Aym]

oh snapple! more heart followed me from here!!!! hahaha people are so funny. they are wonderful toys to play with haha!

[CarryOn09]

oh snapple! more heart followed me from here!!!! hahaha people are so funny. they are wonderful toys to play with haha!
:-|

[saysmydoctor]

hahaha libby dems freakin out over a radio talk show host. having a political view does not make you a politician. and government and economical politics are very different from ethical politics. while we all deal with ethical "politics" in everyday life including and most commonly the workplace. state governing ISSUES are not the same politics. and while the way someone does something that can be construed as unethical, it has nothing to do with whether there position on a policy issue is right or wrong. now it is true that if presented better, maybe it would be more clearly heard. but on both side of the wing these devices are used to detract from verifiable points that are simply presented in a way that can be construed as unethical. thus discounting the entire position...
:lol:

[x togepi x]

hardly anyone on this forum is actually liberal. just because there are real moderates that don't shit out right wing talking points disguised as moderate, doesn't mean anything you guys are saying makes sense.

[saysmydoctor]

http://www.politico.com/blogs/glennthrush/0309/Rush_Kennedy_wont_live_to_see_healt h_reform.html

[StillTrying1288]

http://www.politico.com/blogs/glennthrush/0309/Rush_Kennedy_wont_live_to_see_healt h_reform.html

Jeez Rush sure is a nice guy...

[xshady121]

http://www.politico.com/blogs/glennthrush/0309/Rush_Kennedy_wont_live_to_see_healt h_reform.html


Stop spamming the forums. Puttng this in one thread is plenty enough. I understand you have a "thing" for rush but it's starting to get out of hand now.

[zion the lion]

The guy is a complete asshole and the reason people even talk about him is because his asshole remarks are heard by millions of far right people who then listen to what he says and take it seriously. Like when he told people to go to and vote for Clinton in the primaries just to make sure the democratic party fell apart, and then a whole bunch of people did that and admitted they were doing that. If he wasnt heard by as many people who were so easily influenced then I wouldnt really care about how much he's trying to destroy everything.

[saysmydoctor]

Jeez Rush sure is a nice guy...
Yup.
Stop spamming the forums. Puttng this in one thread is plenty enough. I understand you have a "thing" for rush but it's starting to get out of hand now.
In all honesty, shut the fuck up. I forgot about this thread, so I reposted it here--a topic about Rush.

[CarryOn09]

http://www.politico.com/blogs/glennthrush/0309/Rush_Kennedy_wont_live_to_see_healt h_reform.html
rush limbaugh is such a fucking douchenugget.

and hes ugly.

[xshady121]

An article from a conservative, on how Rush is wrong.
http://www.newsweek.com/id/188279/page/1

excerpt.
I'm a pretty conservative guy. On most issues, I doubt Limbaugh and I even disagree very much. But the issues on which we do disagree are maybe the most important to the future of the conservative movement and the Republican Party: Should conservatives be trying to provoke or persuade? To narrow our coalition or enlarge it? To enflame or govern? And finally (and above all): to profit—or to serve?

[windmillninja]

Please, PLEASE continue to label him the face of the party. Demonize him at every turn. Continue to focus on who the man is, what he says, and what he does.

You know, the important stuff.