What If Watchmen Were Directed By...

[Smash Adams]

One of the funniest things I have seen in a while, there were some good ones they missed like Christopher Nolan- Christian Bale is Dr. Manhattan and he spends the whole movie trying to figure out who killed the comedian only for it to turn out that it was his clone with amnesia who got upset when the comedian skipped in front of him during a dramatic moment
http://www.slate.com/id/2212953/

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first.

[c_rob2700]

A mentally handicapped orphan could've directed this movie better than Snyder

[Smash Adams]

A mentally handicapped orphan could've directed this movie better than Snyder
How does having parents make you a better director? I think Uwe Boll has parents

[c_rob2700]

How does having parents make you a better director? I think Uwe Boll has parents
Touche

[TalkShowsOnMute]

How does having parents make you a better director? I think Uwe Boll has parents

Hahaha Uwe Boll has to be one of the most hated men in all of entertainment.

[Rawrr]

I feel bad for Uwe Boll.

[chokeychicken]

i feel bad for anybody that spent money to see this this weekend

[what_ever]

not to mention 3 hours of their life

[64 % chance]

first.

srsly?

[lilRIPsta]

how tight would a David Fincher directed Watchmen be?

[underthetalking]

This movie was such a waste. Glad I saw it for free.

[fake empire]

I can't believe all the hate on this site

[Ailite]

A mentally handicapped orphan could've directed this movie better than Snyder
incorrect

[sdbrown]

David Lynch- pretty much the same except at the end they'd all wake up and discover it was a dream. And Rorshach would really be Nite Owl and the entire thing would be shot with strobe lighting.

[cahrishurr]

great great movie

[The Database]

I liked Watchmen. Then again, I also liked Cloverfield.

[Anton Djamoos]

Why didn't people like this movie?

[The Database]

I'm pretty sure any movie that AP hypes up, generally after the release, the hype train abandons it. See: Spiderman 3, Cloverfield, Watchmen, etc. etc. etc.

[J.C.]

I didn't think it lived up to the hype, but it wasn't as bad as I see some making it out to be. I'm a bit of a comic book/superhero dork though so I usually see these movies through a different lens than some.

p.s. Spidey 3 sucked and I have trouble seeing anything more than a gimmick film in Cloverfield

[DeathCabForCoon]

I liked it :shrug:

It wasn't nearly as good as the book. But it was entertaining and Rorschach was great.

[underthetalking]

I'm pretty sure any movie that AP hypes up, generally after the release, the hype train abandons it. See: Spiderman 3, Cloverfield, Watchmen, etc. etc. etc.

It wasn't so much that the hype train abandons these movies, it was the fact that they failed miserably to live up to even the lowest expectations. I didn't think Watchmen was bad, but I didn't think it was good either. Just meh. The book was WAAAAY better.

[underthetalking]

I liked it :shrug:

It wasn't nearly as good as the book. But it was entertaining and Rorschach was great.

True. Rorschach was easily the best part of the movie.

[J.C.]

True. Rorschach was easily the best part of the movie.

*Malin Akerman getting plowed

[c_rob2700]

I'm pretty sure any movie that AP hypes up, generally after the release, the hype train abandons it. See: Spiderman 3, Cloverfield, Watchmen, etc. etc. etc.
I liked Cloverfield :shrug:

[anthonydarko]

The movie itself wasn't bad, the only thing I saw wrong with it was that they changed the whole ending of the book, which is one of the highlights of the book, and turned it into one of Hollywood's good ole fashioned good guy/bad guy endings. Synder did a decent job, he could of turned down the ultra-violence and softcore porn just a bit, but decent none the less. Also it should be pointed out that superhero movies are a fickle thing to direct. Too much into the source material, you'll allienate the majority of the audience. Too little into the source material, you'll upset the fans. Synder tried his best to please both worlds and I felt he pulled it off the best he could.

[fake empire]

It seems like most of the people bitching about the movie had read the book first

Although I read the book first, and I loved the movie

[anthonydarko]

I did as well. I'm less bitchy about it because I realize that it's Watchmen, no movie can ever live up to that book. I felt it was the closest I was going to get for a movie and while I'm kinda mad certain things got changed or altered, I do know it could've been much worse that the final product, knowing Hollywood and how they most times miss the target with superhero movies.

[TheOtherAndrew]

I'm pretty sure any movie that AP hypes up, generally after the release, the hype train abandons it. See: Spiderman 3, Cloverfield, Watchmen, etc. etc. etc.
Yeah, but Cloverfield actually did suck, all hype aside.

[fake empire]

I liked Cloverfield

[Adeniz19]

Why didn't people like this movie?because the majority of people who never read the book were bored/confused half way through it, and it seems like the people who have read the book don't feel like this film did it any justice. it just didn't translate well and snyders style was probably the wrong choice. it wasn't a horrible movie, it just had way too high of expectations.

[anthonydarko]

I'd rather have Snyder's style over a lot of other director's styles. While it's over the top, it does capture that comic book feel in a way.

[c_rob2700]

Which is good in some cases. The comic book style worked well for 300, but not at all for Watchmen

[fluke182]

I actually liked Watchmen. I don't hate it like a lot of others do on here, but I do recognize the significant flaws on it, and the fact that Snyder did nothing but confirm the fact that he was the wrong director for the film.

Watchmen - as directed by Wes Anderson.

Entire soundtrack is British Invasion, Owen Wilson as Ozymandias, Bill Murray as Hollis Mason, Jason Schwartzmann as Rorshach, Luke Wilson as Nite Owl II, Gwyneth Paltrow as Silk Spectre, Andrew Wilson as Dr. Manhattan, Kumar Pallana as the Comedian. Ending features the Watchmen performing an elaborate play that makes the world think Aliens are attacking and the world is going to end, but the Watchmen save it. Play directed by Silk Spectre I, played by Angelica Huston.

[Adrian Villagomez]

It seems like most of the people bitching about the movie had read the book first

Although I read the book first, and I loved the movieThe comments you've made in the Watchmen thread null your opinion.

because the majority of people who never read the book were bored/confused half way through it, and it seems like the people who have read the book don't feel like this film did it any justice. it just didn't translate well and snyders style was probably the wrong choice. it wasn't a horrible movie, it just had way too high of expectations.Well said.

[anthonydarko]

As I said before, Snyder tried his best. His style may not of been the best choice but I prefer his style over the styles of directors like Joel Schumacher, Tim Burton, Mark Steven Johnson, and Bryan Singer, who in my eyes have made terrible superhero movies. Besides I couldn't see the movie being shot in other style, even if Watchmen is an adult graphic novel, it is still a comic book.

[Adrian Villagomez]

As I said before, Snyder tried his best. His style may not of been the best choice but I prefer his style over the styles of directors like Joel Schumacher, Tim Burton, Mark Steven Johnson, and Bryan Singer, who in my eyes have made terrible superhero movies. Besides I couldn't see the movie being shot in other style, even if Watchmen is an adult graphic novel, it is still a comic book.Snyder gets in the way of the source material too often; the most annoying examples resemble scenes from The Matrix.

[Smash Adams]

I actually liked Watchmen. I don't hate it like a lot of others do on here, but I do recognize the significant flaws on it, and the fact that Snyder did nothing but confirm the fact that he was the wrong director for the film.

Watchmen - as directed by Wes Anderson.

Entire soundtrack is British Invasion, Owen Wilson as Ozymandias, Bill Murray as Hollis Mason, Jason Schwartzmann as Rorshach, Luke Wilson as Nite Owl II, Gwyneth Paltrow as Silk Spectre, Andrew Wilson as Dr. Manhattan, Kumar Pallana as the Comedian. Ending features the Watchmen performing an elaborate play that makes the world think Aliens are attacking and the world is going to end, but the Watchmen save it. Play directed by Silk Spectre I, played by Angelica Huston.
I was thinking more after the death of the Comedian, played by Bill Murray, his estranged sons- played by Jason Schwartzmann and Owen Wilson have to go to India to settle his affairs and meet with Silk Spectre
but that's just what I thought. I also kind of stole that from

10. Duck Hunt


Director: Wes Anderson
The pitch: An aging paterfamilias (Bill Murray, probably) seeks to reconnect with his adult sons (Owen Wilson and Jason Schwartzman, definitely) on a duck-hunting expedition through Europe in this meticulously constructed dramedy. The family bickers while pursuing increasingly speedy waterfowl and are occasionally mocked by an unnaturally critical cocker spaniel. Schwartzman's character is hit and killed with an errant clay pigeon, and at his funeral, Murray and Wilson embrace for the first time as the Kinks' song "Ducks on the Wall" plays.

http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2007/11/the_10_video_games_that_should.html

[c_rob2700]

Snyder gets in the way of the source material too often; the most annoying examples resemble scenes from The Matrix.
He took the whole aspect of being able to relate to all the characters because they don't have powers and tuned it into an oversaturated sci-fi like fighting style that completely raped one of the biggest themes of the novel

[Brandon Allin]

This movie ruled.

Hard.

[fluke182]

As I said before, Snyder tried his best. His style may not of been the best choice but I prefer his style over the styles of directors like Joel Schumacher, Tim Burton, Mark Steven Johnson, and Bryan Singer, who in my eyes have made terrible superhero movies. Besides I couldn't see the movie being shot in other style, even if Watchmen is an adult graphic novel, it is still a comic book.
Did you just say Bryan Singer is a bad comic movie director? Since when did that happen? Honestly, he really started the modern era of comic movies, as after the shit that is Batman & Robin nearly killed the genre, Singer brought it back to life with X-Men. X-Men 2 was even better, and Superman Returns was a well made (and flawed) film as well. Do not lump him in with those martians please.
I was thinking more after the death of the Comedian, played by Bill Murray, his estranged sons- played by Jason Schwartzmann and Owen Wilson have to go to India to settle his affairs and meet with Silk Spectre
but that's just what I thought. I also kind of stole that from

http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2007/11/the_10_video_games_that_should.html
That is damn entertaining. There's was way more thought out than mine, as I took approximately 3 minutes to think of mine. I'm envious of their creativity.

[anthonydarko]

Snyder gets in the way of the source material too often; the most annoying examples resemble scenes from The Matrix.
That he did, and that did bother me when I watched it. However, I do feel that if he didn't, the majority of people going to see the movie, who haven't read the book, would probably not get into the movie, as foolish as that sounds. Most people who go see superhero movies don't go for the story, they go for superheroes kicking criminal ass sadly. I view the over the top style of the violence in the film as Snyder's way to sell tickets.

[anthonydarko]

Did you just say Bryan Singer is a bad comic movie director? Since when did that happen? Honestly, he really started the modern era of comic movies, as after the shit that is Batman & Robin nearly killed the genre, Singer brought it back to life with X-Men. X-Men 2 was even better, and Superman Returns was a well made (and flawed) film as well. Do not lump him in with those martians please.

I can't knock X-Men or X-Men II, they were great movies. However I felt Superman Returns wasn't as great as I hoped it to be, it was really a letdown for me. Also now that I think about it, I forgot to mention Brett Ratner, how could I forget him?

[batmannj]

*Malin Akerman getting plowed
agreed.

[fake empire]

The comments you've made in the Watchmen thread null your opinion

Why, because I didn't mind the stylized fight scenes and thought they were very well choreographed? Or because I thought the use of "Hallelujah" was fine because it was funny and tongue in cheek? God forbid people have differing opinions on this site.

[batmannj]

because the majority of people who never read the book were bored/confused half way through it, and it seems like the people who have read the book don't feel like this film did it any justice. it just didn't translate well and snyders style was probably the wrong choice. it wasn't a horrible movie, it just had way too high of expectations.
I will agree with you for the most part. I liked it more than expected, but I went in with low expectations. Snyder didn't really do it justice, and the change in the ending bugged the heck out of me.

[Adrian Villagomez]

He took the whole aspect of being able to relate to all the characters because they don't have powers and tuned it into an oversaturated sci-fi like fighting style that completely raped one of the biggest themes of the novelI'm not sure if "relate" is the right word, but I see what you mean.

That he did, and that did bother me when I watched it. However, I do feel that if he didn't, the majority of people going to see the movie, who haven't read the book, would probably not get into the movie, as foolish as that sounds. Most people who go see superhero movies don't go for the story, they go for superheroes kicking criminal ass sadly. I view the over the top style of the violence in the film as Snyder's way to sell tickets.If the film were to establish a grimy realism as seen early on in the graphic novel (the violent Comedian flashbacks have an immediate and sobering effect), straightforward and legitimate brutality during subsequent fight scenes would fall right into place. Snyder shows us one hero attempting rape and another kicking an enemy 15 feet away - it's not a combination that works.

And a "visionary" does not create based on what an audience expects, he creates to make the best movie he can. I don't think many people thought of greatness when they first heard DC was releasing more Batman movies, but take a look at Begins and The Dark Knight and see how realism can sell.

[J.C.]

He took the whole aspect of being able to relate to all the characters because they don't have powers and tuned it into an oversaturated sci-fi like fighting style that completely raped one of the biggest themes of the novel

This is one of my bigger complaints. They weren't superheroes, but they might as well have been given the portrayal.

[Adrian Villagomez]

Why, because I didn't mind the stylized fight scenes and thought they were very well choreographed? Or because I thought the use of "Hallelujah" was fine because it was funny and tongue in cheek? God forbid people have differing opinions on this site.Because of this:

The fight scenes were better choreographed than those of The Dark Knight:hitself:

Also it's debatable which film had the better script:hitself:

The fights were basically the same as in the comic:hitself:

The slow motion wasn't even excessive at all. Who cares? It looked cool.:hitself:

Basically I didn't feel that the fight scenes took away from the realism of the movie. Obviously, they affected your experiences differently.:hitself:

[anthonydarko]

I'm not sure if "relate" is the right word, but I see what you mean.

If the film were to establish a grimy realism as seen early on in the graphic novel (the violent Comedian flashbacks have an immediate and sobering effect), straightforward and legitimate brutality during subsequent fight scenes would fall right into place. Snyder shows us one hero attempting rape and another kicking an enemy 15 feet away - it's not a combination that works.

And a "visionary" does not create based on what an audience expects, he creates to make the best movie he can. I don't think many people thought of greatness when they first heard DC was releasing more Batman movies, but take a look at Begins and The Dark Knight and see how realism can sell.
Agreed, that wasn't a good choice.

[batmannj]

I'm not sure if "relate" is the right word, but I see what you mean.

If the film were to establish a grimy realism as seen early on in the graphic novel (the violent Comedian flashbacks have an immediate and sobering effect), straightforward and legitimate brutality during subsequent fight scenes would fall right into place. Snyder shows us one hero attempting rape and another kicking an enemy 15 feet away - it's not a combination that works.

And a "visionary" does not create based on what an audience expects, he creates to make the best movie he can. I don't think many people thought of greatness when they first heard DC was releasing more Batman movies, but take a look at Begins and The Dark Knight and see how realism can sell.
Very well said. This movie was "good" by the standards of other comic to film adaptions, but like you say, if Snyder was a true visionary, he would have made a movie that would have made a quality of movie like a Dark Knight. It would have been the movie talked about as the one that made comic to film movies not just crowd pleasers, but something that could be taken seriously.

And while we are on the subject of not being taken seriously, I thought the guy who played Nixon was terrible and that using some of the music in the film (specifically Hallejuah) was a bad choice.

[fake empire]

I still don't see how anyone can say Nolan films a better action scene than Snyder

[anthonydarko]

I still don't see how anyone can say Nolan films a better action scene than Snyder
http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/facepalm.jpg

[fluke182]

I still don't see how anyone can say Nolan films a better action scene than Snyder
Because Batman never kicked someone so hard they did backflips like they were villains in a cheesy Hong Kong kung fu flick.

[c_rob2700]

I still don't see how anyone can say Nolan films a better action scene than Snyder

I got this one for you Adrian: :hitself:

[Bloodsucker II]

Because of this:

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:lol:

[Adrian Villagomez]

Very well said. This movie was "good" by the standards of other comic to film adaptions, but like you say, if Snyder was a true visionary, he would have made a movie that would have made a quality of movie like a Dark Knight. It would have been the movie talked about as the one that made comic to film movies not just crowd pleasers, but something that could be taken seriously.

And while we are on the subject of not being taken seriously, I thought the guy who played Nixon was terrible and that using some of the music in the film (specifically Hallejuah) was a bad choice.The ultimate kick in the groin - The Dark Knight set a new standard for adult oriented comic book movies. Watchmen could have swooped in and floored audiences by reinventing what a costumed hero can be (psychotic, disturbed, sadistic, insane... impotent). Instead it has one foot in the graphic novel and the other in mediocrity.

I still don't see how anyone can say Nolan films a better action scene than SnyderI don't go to the movies to watch action scenes, I go to watch good (hopefully great) movies. If I wanted nothing but over-the-top action I'd watch 300 or those terrible looking TransportCrank movies.

[Bloodsucker II]

Very well said. This movie was "good" by the standards of other comic to film adaptions, but like you say, if Snyder was a true visionary, he would have made a movie that would have made a quality of movie like a Dark Knight. It would have been the movie talked about as the one that made comic to film movies not just crowd pleasers, but something that could be taken seriously.

And while we are on the subject of not being taken seriously, I thought the guy who played Nixon was terrible and that using some of the music in the film (specifically Hallejuah) was a bad choice. Agreed. When Hallejuah played I was like "wtf!?!" I think if it was the Jeff Buckley version it wouldn't have been so....out of place. Overall I enjoyed the movie though.

[drudo182]

I didn't hate Watchman and I don't think Snyder is a hack but maybe the two weren't meant to be together. I agree that action was too over the top, slo-mo got repetitive, sex scene was unnecessary, music severely hurt a number of scenes, ect.

I just can't think of anyone who could do a great job at it. I never really thought they would be able to pull it off as a film to begin with so maybe that's why.

Not a bad movie, just not great. B-

And all this Nolan vs. Snyder stuff is getting out of hand. The two had completely different fight scenes in their films. Snyder used his vision to take the material in the direction he wanted it to. Like bodies flying all over the place. Yeah, it looks cool but it's not how it's supposed to be. I'll take Nolan's vision on ANYTHING over anybody else's.

[drudo182]

Agreed. When Hallejuah played I was like "wtf!?!" I think if it was the Jeff Buckley version it wouldn't have been so....out of place. Overall I enjoyed the movie though.

No, it would have been as bad... Ha.

[Bloodsucker II]

No, it would have been as bad... Ha.

ha, maybe. The music in the entire movie kind of threw me off, but i don't hate the movie because of that.

[drudo182]

ha, maybe. The music in the entire movie kind of threw me off, but i don't hate the movie because of that.

For me, some worked and some didn't. I loved the credits with Bob Dylan. That was so well done.

[anthonydarko]

For me, some worked and some didn't. I loved the credits with Bob Dylan. That was so well done.
That was one of the best parts of the whole movie for me. I liked how it visualized(probably not the right word for it) the fate of the Minutemen, which really wasn't shown in the book.

[anthonydarko]

I wonder if the movie would've been better if it was done like this:YDDHHrt6l4w

[drudo182]

That was one of the best parts of the whole movie for me. I liked how it visualized(probably not the right word for it) the fate of the Minutemen, which really wasn't shown in the book.

Yeah, thought it was beautiful. There are a lot of really well done things in the movie.

[Adrian Villagomez]

I wonder if the movie would've been better if it was done like this:YDDHHrt6l4wSo funny. My favorite parts:

Rorschach petting the two dogs.

Jon using cancer as one of his super powers.

Ozy lending a helping hand to Blake when he's about to fall out the window.

[katiebaima]

i felt the movie was as split as the reception at this point; it had its highs and its lows. it opened beautifully with that sequence but the end... come on, laurie, that was dr. manhattan's line to say

[batmannj]

Yeah, thought it was beautiful. There are a lot of really well done things in the movie.

I will be honest, I think that is leagues better than anything Zach Snyder has done in the past, I just think that Watchmen could have been so much better.

When I was watching the movie, I thought about how someone once called it unfilmable, and in a lot of ways, I think it could be true. You can never say never, but I think that as a stand alone film, it was alright.

I thought Rorschach and The Comedian were done very well. I was very impressed with Jackie Earle Haley in this, he made me believe the gruff voice, and there were moments that were done well, such as Rorschach's final moments and the jail break scene.

[MADSTA]

I liked Watchmen. Then again, I also liked Cloverfield.
I liked Cloverfield.
Why didn't people like this movie?
Personally, I just really didn't like the plot. That and the fact that it didn't explain why they were heroes in the first place.

[hailthewarrior]

I loved the novel. I loved the movie. Considering the expectations the novel alone exerts, any director would have complaints held against him.

[Adeniz19]

Personally, I just really didn't like the plot. That and the fact that it didn't explain why they were heroes in the first place.This is one thing that seemed to bug someone I know who watched it. They thought all these people were supposed to have powers (which snyder didn't help by giving everyone super strength), and didn't know why they introduced all the minutemen at the credits to not give anymore further detail as to why they were there to begin with. I tried to explain to them why they were important and such but they just seemed frustrated with the whole thing.