Saw II

[FstFtsVsFences]

I'm gonna go see it right now and then report back, lolz.

[jeremyfromva]

It was good....the twist was more of a build up twist....better landing...filled the holes of the first


first one was just (what the fuck just happened)

[xearlynovemberx]

seeing it tonight i really liked the first 1

[EnderDove]

Im seeing it tomorrow night. Shall be a blast.

[she cant swim!]

im just leaving to see it now :)

[Spicoli hey bud]

got horrible reviews
seeing it anyway

[trustmeimokay]

Wanna see it.

[WakingTheMisery]

i have to wait until tuesday like i did with doom.

[marbury1414]

I'm seeing it on Halloween.

[Talib Scottie]

It was good....the twist was more of a build up twist....better landing...filled the holes of the first


first one was just (what the fuck just happened)
Yeah, i was disappointed in the ending. The plot was slowly unraveling the entire movie and then suddenly *bam* 8 things happen and it's over.

[jeremyfromva]

Yeah, i was disappointed in the ending. The plot was slowly unraveling the entire movie and then suddenly *bam* 8 things happen and it's over.
well see the 2nd one u shouldn't be disappointed by it

[btbam > you]

im seeing it at 3 with tyler. so excited.

[Brownpants06]

did the idea of the trapped house work well? It looked like a lame sequel where he's just trying to kill them all instead of teach them life lessons and whatever.

I'll probably see it anyway. I loved the ending of the first one though.

[xgloryxfadesx27]

Hopefully I'll see it this weekend. Too bad the majority of my friends thought the first one was "gross", "nasty", or "disgusting" and they don't want to see the second one.

[FstFtsVsFences]

Well that was interesting to say the least.

[Clarett'sGreyGoose]

Well that was interesting to say the least.
you shat yourself, didn't you?

[FstFtsVsFences]

you shat yourself, didn't you?
At times yes. I like where they went with it, but I wish they woulda played more of the peoples' tapes in the house. Call me a sick fuck, but I love seeing all those different contraptions. Great ending though and about halfway home, it all clicked and I was like "ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh." I really enjoyed it, but if you weren't a fan of the first one, you won't like this.

[she cant swim!]

i really enjoyed that film

i liked it better than the first

the ending blew me the fuck away

[TheByrus]

i thought the ending was lame.


here comes saw 3.

[she cant swim!]

i wasent dissapointed at all

a third would be a bit shit

tho i thought that about a second

[Drew Beringer]

At times yes. I like where they went with it, but I wish they woulda played more of the peoples' tapes in the house. Call me a sick fuck, but I love seeing all those different contraptions. Great ending though and about halfway home, it all clicked and I was like "ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh." I really enjoyed it, but if you weren't a fan of the first one, you won't like this.

Morgan, tell me all about it in spoiler form plz.

[Signals Corrupted]

two things i didnt like -
1. the psycho buff guy
2. the ending

i hope they dont base future films on that girl. i'd rather they do a prequel about jigsaw. he is a very intriguing character

[Kyle Garchar]

clever

very clever

[cris545]

two things i didnt like -
1. the psycho buff guy
2. the ending

i hope they dont base future films on that girl. i'd rather they do a prequel about jigsaw. he is a very intriguing character
i agree with you, i thought the movie was amazing, but what disappointed me was the girl... jigsaw had his purpose of killing people, he wanted people to be grateful, this girl... i dont know, i just hope they dont disappoint me with a third one that sucks

[xgloryxfadesx27]

So I take back what I said about my friends not wanting to see it. About half my school was at the movie theatre tonight to see Saw II, and it sold out. So we were all screwed. Oh well, mabye tomorrow night.

I also think a prequel about Jigsaw would be really cool, if they could pull it off.

[FstFtsVsFences]

I'll need to see it again because I've been going back and forth so much about it since I saw it this afternoon. At first I didn't like it, then I did, now I don't. Hmm.

[Kiss Of Octopus]

two things i didnt like -
1. the psycho buff guy
2. the ending

i hope they dont base future films on that girl. i'd rather they do a prequel about jigsaw. he is a very intriguing character yeah, i REALLY dont like the idea of future films about the girl. a prequel would be rad.
i definitely think they could pull it off.

i saw an un-rated version of the original at tower yesterday, does that add anything to the plot of the first movie??? anyone seen it?

this movie was definitely rad though, i highly recommend it.


the tarantino [produced or something, not directed] movie that they had a trailer for beforehand also looked rad, btw.

[jeremyfromva]

I like how everyone is talking about the girl and all these people who haven't seen it are gonna be pissed off because everyone is giving the shit away!

[btbam > you]

i loved it.

[MLLMillenium]

I dont see what was so fuckign confusing...

*SPOLIER*








There were three tests in this film. The first which was in the opening. The 2nd one which was with the seven people in the house. The third was if he could sit and talk to him.

The seven people were all apart of the thrid test. The son passed although Ibelieve that he was never in any real danger. When the time ran out, and he had left the officer lost his test and found himself locked in a room, either awaiting death in the next film or his own test.

It will also have to open with the swat team, who found themselves locked in a room. It will be a very interesting premise. Also I don't think he's dead just yet. he may have dies, but then again, he does smile at the end, so he wasn't fully dead. Although I do believe it will be about her the third film.

What are people confused about..? It's kinda straight foward.

[theROUSE]

Yeah, i was disappointed in the ending. The plot was slowly unraveling the entire movie and then suddenly *bam* 8 things happen and it's over.
i dont know why my eyes just read that as *barn*..., haha.

[EnderDove]

Damn!

Great movie.

Wow.

[dretti]

It was ok. Not that great. I'm looking forward to Hostel.

[actionandaction]

yeah, i REALLY dont like the idea of future films about the girl. a prequel would be rad.
i definitely think they could pull it off.

i saw an un-rated version of the original at tower yesterday, does that add anything to the plot of the first movie??? anyone seen it?

this movie was definitely rad though, i highly recommend it.


the tarantino [produced or something, not directed] movie that they had a trailer for beforehand also looked rad, btw.
Hostel? Looks good.

[marbury1414]

I can finnnnnally talk about this. The ending was awesome and all of the twists were set up perfectly. Overall however, the first one was far superior on several points:

A. I was genuinely scared and drawn in throughout the entirety of the first movie, in the new one there was an entire middle section with all talk and no built up tension. This had to do largely with problem B...

B. The first one followed the age old rule of show, not tell. In the first one, though we were stuck in a room, we could see into the lives of the characters due to flashbacks and get an understanding of their motivations. In the second one, there was a looooot of exposition being done by the girl in the house and everyone involved in the police situation. A large reason why they couldn't delve deep into the character's personal lives was problem C...

C. Too many characters. The first one worked because the two characters only had each other to rely on, no one else. This forced you to see both sides of both characters and forced both characters to help each other. In the second one, it was like a bizarre episode of Survivor where you don't know more than surface deep information about these characters. And finally (but this is almost "unhelpable")...

D. The second one banked a lot on the first one. This seems pretty obvious, but is was so obvious that I noticed it. More than a few catch phrases were repeated word for word in this and it seemed a little forced. Also, the ending where the music built up and the movie flashed to bascially every single part in the movie was copied exactly from the first one. It's a good technique, but they copied it almost to a "t."

So, overall, I'd say it was entertaining and it wrapped up nicely, but it just didn't have the constant tension of being "right there" like the first one did.

[punkrockcasual]

Is Saw II really that scary?

[jeremyfromva]

Is Saw II really that scary?
More disturbing in my opinion not scary though

[punkrockcasual]

More disturbing in my opinion not scary though]


Im seeing it tonight, cannot wait.

[FOBcareemo]

More disturbing in my opinion not scary though

the needle thing genuinely made me squirm

[pinkrockchik]

It Kicks Ass!!!!!!!

[suburbn_thrills]

Ahh i saw this last night-i loved it.
I never saw the first one though. Everyone i was with said this one was better than the first. True?

[marbury1414]

Ahh i saw this last night-i loved it.
I never saw the first one though. Everyone i was with said this one was better than the first. True?

Some people are saying that, but I didn't think so at all. The main reason was that I was actually scared and drawn in the entire movie when I saw the first one. This one had it's moments, but it didn't have the sheer intensity that the first one had in my opinion.

[actionandaction]

the needle thing genuinely made me squirm
yeah. the first three minutes of the movie was just plain disturbing.

[FstFtsVsFences]

I can finnnnnally talk about this. The ending was awesome and all of the twists were set up perfectly. Overall however, the first one was far superior on several points:

A. I was genuinely scared and drawn in throughout the entirety of the first movie, in the new one there was an entire middle section with all talk and no built up tension. This had to do largely with problem B...

B. The first one followed the age old rule of show, not tell. In the first one, though we were stuck in a room, we could see into the lives of the characters due to flashbacks and get an understanding of their motivations. In the second one, there was a looooot of exposition being done by the girl in the house and everyone involved in the police situation. A large reason why they couldn't delve deep into the character's personal lives was problem C...

C. Too many characters. The first one worked because the two characters only had each other to rely on, no one else. This forced you to see both sides of both characters and forced both characters to help each other. In the second one, it was like a bizarre episode of Survivor where you don't know more than surface deep information about these characters. And finally (but this is almost "unhelpable")...

D. The second one banked a lot on the first one. This seems pretty obvious, but is was so obvious that I noticed it. More than a few catch phrases were repeated word for word in this and it seemed a little forced. Also, the ending where the music built up and the movie flashed to bascially every single part in the movie was copied exactly from the first one. It's a good technique, but they copied it almost to a "t."

So, overall, I'd say it was entertaining and it wrapped up nicely, but it just didn't have the constant tension of being "right there" like the first one did.
Thank God you're a film major so you can find the words to describe how I feel about the movie, hahaha. That sums it up perfectly.

[marbury1414]

Thank God you're a film major so you can find the words to describe how I feel about the movie, hahaha. That sums it up perfectly.

Ya, I think you and me feel pretty much the same about this movie.

[FstFtsVsFences]

Ya, I think you and me feel pretty much the same about this movie.
btw, i'm probably the only one who will read that

[punkrockcasual]

btw, i'm probably the only one who will read that

Nah, I read it.

[marbury1414]

btw, i'm probably the only one who will read that

Haha I know. I was a little dissapointed when there was no responses, but then I thought: If I saw a post that long I wouldn't read it either. Oh well.

Nah, I read it.

Sweet.

[FstFtsVsFences]

Haha I know. I was a little dissapointed when there was no responses, but then I thought: If I saw a post that long I wouldn't read it either. Oh well.



Sweet.
Yeah and a bunch of the people around here won't waste their time with an argument against that movie mostly because they're too busy freaking out of how good it was. :rollseyes:

[punkrockcasual]

It wasn't bad Morgan.

[marbury1414]

Yeah and a bunch of the people around here won't waste their time with an argument against that movie mostly because they're too busy freaking out of how good it was. :rollseyes:

SLADE thinks it's lyke the scariest moovie of the year!!!!11! OMG I couldn't imagine if I was in that situation!

[punkrockcasual]

SLADE thinks it's lyke the scariest moovie of the year!!!!11! OMG I couldn't imagine if I was in that situation!
Hostel looks fuckin creepy.

[marbury1414]

Hostel looks fuckin creepy.

I really want to see that.

[Easy-H]

the characters stuck in the house were horrible..bad acting and you didnt really get to know them so you couldnt care less who died or not..I dont see why there had to be so many games in this one too..it fit well in the first one..but it seemed like it was forced and draged on in the 2nd (probably thrown in to entertain people)..it reminded me of fear factor (espically the needle scene)..the torture scenes were nothing special and again it seemed like they were just put there to disturb you..the first one was great it was a dark clastrophobic mystery thriller..This one was more like a cop action thriller trying to be horror. this is why I couldnt take this movie seriously..the whole thing was pretty much a joke to me


watch the movie "cube" and "seven"

[marbury1414]

the characters stuck in the house were horrible..bad acting and you didnt really get to know them so you couldnt care less who died or not..I dont see why there had to be so many games in this one too..it fit well in the first one..but it seemed like it was forced and draged on in the 2nd..it reminded me of fear factor (espically the needle scene)..the torture scenes were nothing special and again it seemed like they were just put there to disturb you..the first one was great it was a dark clastrophobic mystery thriller
This one was more like a cop action thriller trying to be horror. this is why I couldnt take this movie seriously..the whole thing was pretty much a joke to me

I completely agree. The first one was a horror movie and this one was more of an action movie with horror overtones.

[FstFtsVsFences]

It wasn't bad Morgan.
Yes it was Kevin and I can't believe I'm one of the only people who thinks so.

the characters stuck in the house were horrible..bad acting and you didnt really get to know them so you couldnt care less who died or not..I dont see why there had to be so many games in this one too..it fit well in the first one..but it seemed like it was forced and draged on in the 2nd (probably thrown in to entertain people)..it reminded me of fear factor (espically the needle scene)..the torture scenes were nothing special and again it seemed like they were just put there to disturb you..the first one was great it was a dark clastrophobic mystery thriller..This one was more like a cop action thriller trying to be horror. this is why I couldnt take this movie seriously..the whole thing was pretty much a joke to me


watch the movie "cube" and "seven"
Thaaaaaaaaaaank you! :appl:

[Adeniz19]

I can finnnnnally talk about this. The ending was awesome and all of the twists were set up perfectly. Overall however, the first one was far superior on several points:

A. I was genuinely scared and drawn in throughout the entirety of the first movie, in the new one there was an entire middle section with all talk and no built up tension. This had to do largely with problem B...

B. The first one followed the age old rule of show, not tell. In the first one, though we were stuck in a room, we could see into the lives of the characters due to flashbacks and get an understanding of their motivations. In the second one, there was a looooot of exposition being done by the girl in the house and everyone involved in the police situation. A large reason why they couldn't delve deep into the character's personal lives was problem C...

C. Too many characters. The first one worked because the two characters only had each other to rely on, no one else. This forced you to see both sides of both characters and forced both characters to help each other. In the second one, it was like a bizarre episode of Survivor where you don't know more than surface deep information about these characters. And finally (but this is almost "unhelpable")...

D. The second one banked a lot on the first one. This seems pretty obvious, but is was so obvious that I noticed it. More than a few catch phrases were repeated word for word in this and it seemed a little forced. Also, the ending where the music built up and the movie flashed to bascially every single part in the movie was copied exactly from the first one. It's a good technique, but they copied it almost to a "t."

So, overall, I'd say it was entertaining and it wrapped up nicely, but it just didn't have the constant tension of being "right there" like the first one did.you explained it perfect. i still really enjoyed it tho

[monkeyboy14]

btw, i'm probably the only one who will read that
I read it. I'm still deciding whether or not to go and see this. I saw the first one and thought it was ok (I'm not a horror movie fan though). I didn't find the first one scary, just a little disturbing.

[radiofriendly]

holy shit, this movie was awful!!! i was so willing to give this movie a chance, but it was complete garbage. i understand the creative aspect of it, but i can't fathom how you guys can defend these films. the acting is absolutely putrid. i don't think we see a single change of facial expression through this entire movie. we went through this entire film and learned nothing!! in an attempt to look intelligent they sacrifice all logic and they cut through scenes that could have explained any of the huge gaps in between these stupid scenes. instead they show 90 minutes of constant running around and killing. they disguise the fact that they have no plot by implementing gratuitous ways to die and literally everybody crying out "death makes you appreciate life!" until my ears bled. it even comes complete with cheap quick cut, dizzying, and completely annoying cinematography. i could go on forever...waste of a great idea...

[niveK]

This movie was rushed out within a year of the first. I think thatcovers a majority of the problems. It wasnt so much of a scary movie but a stomache movie. There is a difference between trying to scare the auidence and just showing extreme violence. It's a shame that this is the kind of movie that america perfers over all the great movies that get snubbed at the box office.

I dont think i saw it here, but the script for this movie was not written as saw 2.This script was written as another movie then some execs read then asked for a rewrite but change it to the Saw universe.

[dont you move]

i liked it.

my only problems were:
it was too predictable. the part about the back of their mind and how they were connected, i automatically thought of what they meant and was correct.

no background stories on the characters except the first guy, the girl, and the guy who kidnapped them.

the needles. UGH. i couldn't watch.

i couldn't stop humming the theme song to 7th heaven throughout the whole movie for some strange reason.
-------------------------
still a decent movie though. you need to watch the first one for a better understanding of it.
and i can't wait for that usher movie!
jk
but i wanna see hostel.

ps - if you go to yahoo movies, there's this thing for saw2 that kinda explains the origin of jigsaw. it's a comic type cartoon. check it out.

[Adeniz19]

my only problems were:
it was too predictable. the part about the back of their mind and how they were connected, i automatically thought of what they meant and was correct.
ya that was so obvious

[AreTwoKay]

Lame ass movie.

[theROUSE]

Saw 2 was a good use of an hour and a half and the $5.50 I spent. And that's all I'll say about that. Hostel on the other hand..., looks pretty damn good. Eli is an up and coming genious if you ask me. Cabin Fever..., what a creepy ride, throughout the ENTIRE film...

[radiofriendly]

Saw 2 was a good use of an hour and a half and the $5.50 I spent. And that's all I'll say about that. Hostel on the other hand..., looks pretty damn good. Eli is an up and coming genious if you ask me. Cabin Fever..., what a creepy ride, throughout the ENTIRE film...
yeah, there was something campy about Cabin Fever that i loved. the direction it took was really cool. you can see why all of the arthouse horror directors loved it. you either find somebody who found it unpleasant and hated it, or someone who found it unpleasant and loved it. i don't find a lot people that loved it.

[brass buttons]

yeah, there was something campy about Cabin Fever that i loved. the direction it took was really cool. you can see why all of the arthouse horror directors loved it. you either find somebody who found it unpleasant and hated it, or someone who found it unpleasant and loved it. i don't find a lot people that loved it. i loved it

[FrancesTheMute]

i liked the spinkicking pancake kid in cabin fever


.....that was about it though.

[getupkid53]

I spent the entire time through cabin fever trying to lick my own asshole.... because i said, "I wonder whats worse, this movie, or licking my own asshole"... I guess I'll never know.

It did have some nice t**ty shots though

Evil Dead owns cabin Fever... What other movie would have a tree commit such acts?

[marbury1414]

I spent the entire time through cabin fever trying to lick my own asshole.... because i said, "I wonder whats worse, this movie, or licking my own asshole"... I guess I'll never know.

It did have some nice t**ty shots though

Evil Dead owns cabin Fever... What other movie would have a tree commit such acts?

That's hot, did you take pictures?

And yes, there is nothing better than a tree raping some chick........

So random.

[Kif]

The needles, that was the breaking point of the movie. I mean, it's sick that he threw her in there anyway, but I mean you don't know what's in them. The "highlight" of the movie.

Still, half of it felt like a slasher flick, and it was too predictable. I suppose it had a lot to live up to from Saw, but how do you fool an audience when they are used to seeing a character? They made a great effort, and it's a great film. The Saw series will go down in movie history as cult horror classics of our time. Horror movies nowadays are lame anyway.

[Mercy Medical]

The needles, that was the breaking point of the movie. I mean, it's sick that he threw her in there anyway, but I mean you don't know what's in them. The "highlight" of the movie.

Still, half of it felt like a slasher flick, and it was too predictable. I suppose it had a lot to live up to from Saw, but how do you fool an audience when they are used to seeing a character? They made a great effort, and it's a great film. The Saw series will go down in movie history as cult horror classics of our time. Horror movies nowadays are lame anyway.
That's all I was thinking about with those needles, "what the fuck is in them?"

[Kif]

Also, did anyone else get a Halloween Resurrection vibe from this movie? I mean, it didn't work out well for that film (A franchise far past it's sell-by date), and it just seemed very tacky as a plotline. The acting in the house was definately a downpoint, but I think it brought out the best from back at the Jigsaw killer's hideout.

[radiofriendly]

The acting in the house was definately a downpoint, but I think it brought out the best from back at the Jigsaw killer's hideout.
...except for that black swat guy...

...and Dina Meyer...

...and Donnie Wahlberg...

...wait a minute...

sorry, all in good fun. this movie just really didn't come close to being any good for me.

[richter915]

the needle scene was bad but what I thought was much worse was when the lady had her hands stuck in that device with the blades so that when she tried to pull it out, it just cut deeper and deeper...it was so tough to watch that cause at the same time that guy was looking around to kill them and stuff.

[Spicoli hey bud]

i couldn't stop humming the theme song to 7th heaven throughout the whole movie for some strange reason.HAHAHAHA ME TOO!
I didn't think the movie was very good at all though
I would give it a 6/10

[AreTwoKay]

HAHAHAHA ME TOO!
I didn't think the movie was very good at all though
I would give it a 6/10
I would give it a 3.5/10

[Anton Djamoos]

I SAW (ha!) it this past weekend and I really liked it. I'm not gonna give reasons why because I don't feel like talking a lot but let it be known that I liked it. My opinion counts for a lot on this forum so just trust me.