Things Like These Are What Give Me Hope

[Rohan Kohli]

Matt of Hawthorne Heights (http://www.hawthorneheights.com) sent us this message:

Hey guys,

We just wanted to let AP know that even though most of you won't wanna come to our shows anyway, once the tour resumes, we (us, Silverstein, and Aiden) are going to be selling Bayside merch at the shows for them, and both we and Silverstein will also be donating portions of our guarantees to the band. Bayside will also be getting their guarantee every night for the remainder of the tour. So even if you just come in, buy a Bayside shirt, and leave, that would be much appreciated.

[matddors]

very classy.

[CorporateFish]

This is real kind of these bands..but I laughed at the opening sentence..

[byebyebeautiful]

i just gained a lot of respect for that band.

[fluke182]

I respect them, even though no one else probably does.

[tambo41187]

Whether you like them or not.....Classy move by all three bands.

[xearlynovemberx]

I respect them, even though no one else probably does.
that is very classy of them im going to go to the show in ny when the tour resumes

[tambo41187]

I respect them, even though no one else probably does.
I do esp. for this. HH should stop reading message boards though, i mean almost every band gets shit on this site. I mean they are selling enough records not to worry what we have to say.

[Talib Scottie]

I respect them, even though no one else probably does.
I respect most bands. All bands work hard and sacrifice a lot, and a lot of them are decent guys.

[JHallow]

Thats a very respectful thing for them to do. props to them.

[Drew Beringer]

This tour already went through Indy, I was busy that night, wish I would have gone now :(

[pasthefence49]

as much as i dislike them, very nice guys, maybe I'll be outside your window with my radiooooooooo

[dretti]

stay classy san diego.

[Melie]

i'm not going to the show, but i really like what they're doing. bayside deserves the help.

[archamedes]

why do people hate bands for being successful?

[KevInept]

nice guys.

[70x7]

I do esp. for this. HH should stop reading message boards though, i mean almost every band gets shit on this site. I mean they are selling enough records not to worry what we have to say.
It always seemed to me that people who make fun of them are in an essence making fun of themselves. They call Hawthorne Heights trend chasers and a bunch of posers or whatever, but for probably 85% of the people talking shit, they are the ones who are trendy and a bunch of posers. If I were Hawthorne Heights it really wouldn't hurt my feelings if a bunch of kids who cut their teeth on Limp Bizkit and Backstreet Boys made fun of me.

[Saves The Night]

I don't like their music but I got to admit these are some good guys and I give them my support.

[gil_ag]

very classy.

it would of been if it weren't for the "even though you don't come to our shows."

[alexwohl29_90]

i dont really care what people have to say,i respect anyone who does what they love and makes money doing it.

but this totally put them up a notch in my book.(although I already was a little bit of a fan anyways)


very very nice of them. my thoughts go out to the friends/family of bayside

[thexflamesxburn]

I do esp. for this. HH should stop reading message boards though, i mean almost every band gets shit on this site. I mean they are selling enough records not to worry what we have to say.
haha thats true. message boards dont bring much of any good to any bands, at least the comments dont.

[pinkerton]

nice move. i just gained so much respect for them. i hope he reads this thread.

[Brownpants06]

they should donate their third guitarists guitar to the fund. hah.



jk im terrible, +respect HH

[HashHolly]

just because hawthowrne hights happens to be doing the right thing doesn't instantly make them less of a shitty band...ill support bayside by buying merch.

[WhatSayYou]

I don't care what they do they still suck! That nice though

[sXe sk8r]

i dont really like hh anymore. grew out of their music, but they always were nice guys. even after shows, they signed stuff and stayed until every fan left. they really are great guys, you guys shouldn't bash them too much

[Salomonbz90]

good for these guys. im sick over this though. I've loved Bayside since day 1..and now who knows whats to come of it. god bless them and all affected.

[elemenohpe]

We just wanted to let AP know that even though most of you won't wanna come to our shows anyway

at least they're realistic.

[kallok]

I met Hawthorne at this golf dome place they played at in Ohio last year, really nice guys and they actually sound good live unlike a lot of bands. Very nice of them to do what they are doing to help out Bayside.

[Frequency]

That's sweet of them. Its weird that they realize there are a lot HH haters here.

[sundaysetsashes]

its amazing how everyone is showing love to these guys now. id five it until the next news post about them recording, releasing a demo until the bashing resumes

[tambo41187]

It always seemed to me that people who make fun of them are in an essence making fun of themselves. They call Hawthorne Heights trend chasers and a bunch of posers or whatever, but for probably 85% of the people talking shit, they are the ones who are trendy and a bunch of posers. If I were Hawthorne Heights it really wouldn't hurt my feelings if a bunch of kids who cut their teeth on Limp Bizkit and Backstreet Boys made fun of me.

I think that may be true for some people, i also think some people hate on bands because its the "cool" thing to do. However, lets no kid ourselves, there are plenty of people who really do not like this band. Why people choose to rip into them, idk, if they love what they are doing and work hard then i got no problem with them.

and the elected rock.

[Teoa_Fes]

Very classy and props to all bands...but HH are still a bunch of whinny ***s. =)

[Meggers]

Seeing them do this makes me gain so much more respect for them. I really wanna hit up this show in Dallas now.

[Rxbandit22]

Look at all you fuckheads trying to be HH's friends again.
Sure its a classy move by all 3 bands and godbless bayside, but seriously HH still sucks.
So stop trying to be there friend,they hate you.

[tambo41187]

its amazing how everyone is showing love to these guys now. id five it until the next news post about them recording, releasing a demo until the bashing resumes
Well like if people see a band do something good they are more likely to defend them, and least likely to rip into them. But you're right, next post about them they will get shit again.

[justinevans]

why do people hate bands for being successful?

i think it is more the fact that they hate bands that have become popular performing a generic style of songs that other bands have been trying to perfect for awhile and have stayed under the radar. They dislike the bands because the lyrics are just catchy and that brings in the mainstream, because here in America, no one likes to read in between the lyrics.

I for one do not like their music and never did before they became more popular. It is just a matter of opinion and taste in music. I respect them for doing what they do though and I guess if they are happy with the art they give to the world then that is good. I would never say I actually hate the people that make up the band because they have shown they are respectful human beings. I just dislike their art. The only thing about their message that I also dislike is that in the way it is worded, it seems like they are trying to make certain people feel guilty. I'm sure that was NOT their motive, but it looks that way sort of.

[Teoa_Fes]

again as i said. they are a bunch of "happy" ppl.

[tedE]

I met Hawthorne at this golf dome place they played at in Ohio last year, really nice guys and they actually sound good live unlike a lot of bands. Very nice of them to do what they are doing to help out Bayside.

Oh, the irony. =P

[Rohan Kohli]

i think it is more the fact that they hate bands that have become popular performing a generic style of songs that other bands have been trying to perfect for awhile and have stayed under the radar. They dislike the bands because the lyrics are just catchy and that brings in the mainstream, because here in America, no one likes to read in between the lyrics.

I for one do not like their music and never did before they became more popular. It is just a matter of opinion and taste in music. I respect them for doing what they do though and I guess if they are happy with the art they give to the world then that is good. I would never say I actually hate the people that make up the band because they have shown they are respectful human beings. I just dislike their art. The only thing about their message that I also dislike is that in the way it is worded, it seems like they are trying to make certain people feel guilty. I'm sure that was NOT their motive, but it looks that way sort of.

What do you mean? I don't think they're trying to make anyone feel guilty, they just sorta realize what it's like here at AP.

[NameTaken69]

very admirable

[sean omerta]

I guess I missed what happened...

edit: scratch that.

[pinkerton]

i won't bash them anymore in further news posts. and some other people won't either.

so they make generic music, at least they enjoy it and are still great guys.

+100 props.

[surfwaxsideshow]

I hate their music for being generic but I do have some respect for them now. It's not gonna make me listen to them but I can't realistically see bashing them now.

[blahme]

Wait, that last sentence, you can come in and just buy a bayside shirt and leave? for free?

[sXe sk8r]

Look at all you fuckheads trying to be HH's friends again.
Sure its a classy move by all 3 bands and godbless bayside, but seriously HH still sucks.
So stop trying to be there friend,they hate you.
wow your stupid, no one's trying to be HH's "friend" again. its your own opinion that HH sucks and i accept that, but no one thinks theyre any better, people are just saying they have more respect for them for what theyre doing, that doesnt mean they like their music. they can play crappy music, but be great people in reality.

and p.s. no HH doesnt hate me.

[DeathCabForCoon]

Oh man he knows we hate them haha. That took balls

[formyownheart]

very classy

[sparksfly]

Wait, that last sentence, you can come in and just buy a bayside shirt and leave? for free?

if they set up bayside merch outside the venue i would totally go and buy a cd or shirt. i don't have money to pay for a show and buy stuff anymore.

[Crimson_Curse]

mucho props

[coldplayer]

why do people hate bands for being successful?
we dont hate bands for being successful we hate bands for "cut my wrists and black my eyes.. so I can fall asleep tonight" haha but no serious I have heard these guys are really nice and this is a very class move

[walshknilb281]

yes very classy move but dont start the message off by pitying yourself saying nobody like your band when you've sold 500K albums

[thebestkylever]

this is good. best of luck to all these bands.

[leafsacc]

i've heard a lot of people say that they're great guys, and this really proves it. I would go see this tour in a second if there was a boston date. They should make bayside stuff avalible on thier website.

[rewindthistime]

really awesome of all of these bands to do this

wow. i'm still in shock that this even happened. i just really can't believe it. drive safe, guys. seriously.

[jfb392]

If it comes here, I'll go and see their show just for that and buy 3 Bayside shirts.
I need some.

[Homesick]

wow your stupid, no one's trying to be HH's "friend" again. its your own opinion that HH sucks and i accept that, but no one thinks theyre any better, people are just saying they have more respect for them for what theyre doing, that doesnt mean they like their music. they can play crappy music, but be great people in reality.

and p.s. no HH doesnt hate me.
you officially have the gayest username ever.

[Ruggiero2oo8]

thats pretty fucking awesome.

[thewebguy]

what the hell is up with all you people saying "classy" lately?

was there a free anchorman dvd in all your boxes of loser-o's this morning? what the crap!?

[apex]

let's just say this is a pretty big deal

[TJ.Wells]

why do people hate bands for being successful?
I don't think they hate them for being successful, I think it's for "so cut my wrists and black my eyes..". Honestly, if it wasn't for that lyric I think I would like this band.

Anyway, this is very cool of them. Much respect.

[catchmealone]

This tour already went through Indy, I was busy that night, wish I would have gone now :(
Same here with the St. Louis date. I wanted to go see Bayside, and then about a week later this happens. Horrible.
I feel the same as almost everyone here, very nice move by all 3 bands. They all get some respect from me for this. I also think it's cool how HH seem to have a good sense of humor about everyone here hating them. At least they can laugh about it, and it doesn't seem to be bothering them.

And to the few who are saying people are trying to be HH friends now, shut up. No one is saying that, in light of what they are doing to help Bayside out, that we are all of a sudden huge fans of their music, becuase that's not true. I've not seen one person so far say
"I used to hate these guys, but since I read that, THEY ROCK"
All we are saying is this is a very classy thing for these bands to do, and that we have more respect for them as people.

[vandalroyale]

I find it funny that it seems like everytime a band becomes mainstream it is because they "sold out". What the hell is the purpose of putting a band together in the first place. The ultimate goal of any group of guys playing together is in a band is to somehow/someday make it big. Just because HH (FOB, Yellowcard, and coming to a hate-list near you MCR) made their way up in the world, doesn't mean they should be liked any less. If not to make it big, what is the point of putting out a record/touring endlessly/selling merchandise in remote venues and locations, etc... if not to one day make yourself known. I respect the hell out of HH for doing what they do while all the while keeping things in perspective (i.e cancelling their 1st headlining tour out of respect for their tour partners). I will be continuously supporting them 100 %.

[catchmealone]

I find it funny that it seems like everytime a band becomes mainstream it is because they "sold out". What the hell is the purpose of putting a band together in the first place. The ultimate goal of any group of guys playing together is in a band is to somehow/someday make it big. Just because HH (FOB, Yellowcard, and coming to a hate-list near you MCR) made their way up in the world, doesn't mean they should be liked any less. If not to make it big, what is the point of putting out a record/touring endlessly/selling merchandise in remote venues and locations, etc... if not to one day make yourself known. I respect the hell out of HH for doing what they do while all the while keeping things in perspective (i.e cancelling their 1st headlining tour out of respect for their tour partners). I will be continuously supporting them 100 %.
um, maybe I'm wrong but I thought My Chemical Romance were alot bigger than Hawthorne Heights, and maybe even Fall Out Boy.

[NFG4ever]

I don't mind HH , AP users give them way to much hate. But yeah they obviously have lots of fans out there with the amount of records they keep selling, and they put on a good live show.

[Co and Ca]

i respect all of the bands for doing this...but i still hate aidens music with a passion

[chokeychicken]

why do people hate bands for being successful?we don't, asshole. jimmy eat world is a pretty successful band and i don't know anybody on this site who can honestly say they HATE jimmy eat world. they may not be their favorite band, but most everybody who actually likes and knows good music can admit that jew has talent, and released one of the most amazing records of our generation (clarity).

then again, jimmy eat world isn't a carbon copy of every other screamo band ever, and they don't read the AP.net boards consistently ;)

[fenderstratboy2]

it takes balls to say what hh just did

[bubonic311]

So Aiden isn't donating any of their proceeds?

[thispostscript]

I find it funny that it seems like everytime a band becomes mainstream it is because they "sold out". What the hell is the purpose of putting a band together in the first place. The ultimate goal of any group of guys playing together is in a band is to somehow/someday make it big. Just because HH (FOB, Yellowcard, and coming to a hate-list near you MCR) made their way up in the world, doesn't mean they should be liked any less. If not to make it big, what is the point of putting out a record/touring endlessly/selling merchandise in remote venues and locations, etc... if not to one day make yourself known. I respect the hell out of HH for doing what they do while all the while keeping things in perspective (i.e cancelling their 1st headlining tour out of respect for their tour partners). I will be continuously supporting them 100 %.
I think your completely wrong...people dislike HH because of their music, not because they supposedely "sold out".. many bands have gone huge and are still respected and rock.

[underthetalking]

Good for them. A real honorable move by all the bands. I applaude them.

[vandalroyale]

The same people that hate HH and FOB now, couldn't get enough of them when they first came out. Sure there are bands who have continued to transcend time, but don't bash just becuase your musical tastes went elsewhere.

[Electric Child]

I hate HH because they suck, regardless if theyre nice people or not. Can't judge a band by anything other than their music.

[sunpoison]

1 up for HH. Their music is still auditory assault, but I have to applaud the way they're handling this. Really proves that even though they're sucky musicians, at least they're damn nice guys.

[Sureshot182]

applause for them. great dudes.

[tragedyco]

why do people hate bands for being successful?
who knows.

[btbam > you]

i just gained a lot of respect for that band.



agreed

[Four]

very respectful

[panic !!]

I'll go in buy a shirt and leave.

[duffe]

Great initiative.