March Mayhem Round 1: Manchester Orchestra vs. Rise Against

[Anton Djamoos]

Who is your favorite band out of these two? Be sure to read the replies for other users' cases for each band.

[yoyostring]

Manchester for sure.

[eman83]

Manchester.

[Broclee]

Not even a competition.

[jusscali]

Hype vs. Proven Vet...hmm

[zubinmoosa]

MO no question.

[Drew Beringer]

ManOrc easily

[NateFoundGlory]

Rise Against. Am I alone?

[irthesteve]

If Manchester had more releases they might win, but Siren Song alone wins it for Rise Against here

[roju]

i love rise against. but i think i love manchester more.

[Cue the Sun]

Manchester Orchestra. But it was pretty close.

[Anton Djamoos]

This was a very tough vote for me, but I voted Manchester Orchestra because, though I love Rise Against, Manchester Orchestra's releases seem to do more for me in the long run.

[secthagoals626]

Too bad Ris Against was matched up against such a loved band in the first round...

[adam289]

rise against

[bailmeout13]

Rise Against. Haven't been able to get into Manchester Orchestra thus far.

[DroppedUrPocket]

The Unraveling is one of my favorite albums. Too bad RA's past two or three have been the skids.

[Keagan Ilvonen]

Manchester Orchestra. ILAVLAC is one of my favorite records. Rise Against hasn't released anything that has totally stuck with me.

[nateisawesome]

Mo

[fromoc2dc]

Manchester, obviously.

[PunkDrums182]

Glad to see Manchester dominating. These guys are awesome. Such thoughtful, emotional lyrics coupled with beautiful music.

[irthesteve]

This is sad

(Siren Songs, RPM, Sufferer/Witness) > Virgin > (Unraveling, Appeal)

[WhoSaidThat?]

When I fly solo, I fly so high...

[WFUJerseyJon]

Rise Against. Not a huge fan of either but I still love Swing Life Away. Shoot me.

[Anton Djamoos]

This is sad

(Siren Songs, RPM, Sufferer/Witness) > Virgin > (Unraveling, Appeal)
Manchester's new album is awesome.

[DroppedUrPocket]

anton how were these seeds/bands picked?

[irthesteve]

Manchester's new album is awesome.
And I totally believe you, but I have no way of computing this into my math at this point

[Anton Djamoos]

anton how were these seeds/bands picked?
Bands were picked by looking at the top 50 bands at last.fm from the AP.net group and also taking into account what bands get posted a bunch with news.

[live.]

This is Division I vs. Division III. MO ftw.

[DroppedUrPocket]

Bands were picked by looking at the top 50 bands at last.fm from the AP.net group and also taking into account what bands get posted a bunch with news.

okey doke.

[TakenByCars]

rise against..

[midtown4657]

well this sucks that this is round one. i've been listening to Rise Against since i was 15 and Manchester since that video got posted here the other day. i was hoping to have heard more of them before i had to vote against em. but yeah, Rise Against for me.

[fadedmemories]

MO will crush Rise Against

[what_ever]

I love both bands, but MO edges past.

[GRIFFARD]

This was a very tough vote for me, but I voted Manchester Orchestra because, though I love Rise Against, Manchester Orchestra's releases seem to do more for me in the long run.

this almost exactly.

[s.t.e.v.e.n.]

I enjoy listening to Rise Against but when it comes down to it, I'd listen to MO 9 times out of 10 over RA. Plus the new album is gonna rule.

[atticusfinch]

Good to see Manchester Orchestra dominate this. I've never been a huge RA fan, though I've seen them live twice. I have to be in a certain kind of mood to enjoy them. Revolutions Per Minute is a great album, but that's about all I ever got into.

[imagination]

it's almost 2:1 for voting, damn

[Spenny]

Rise Against, for the mere fact that I've loved them for many years now. Just started listening to MO a month ago (but they are still a fantastic band).

[Coh33d]

Never really listen to MO and I've been listening to RA for years....

[Thomas Balkcom]

Mo

[singyoutocoma]

This is really tough. I'll vote Rise Against because they seem (from the comments) to be losing, but I'm Like A Virgin... is ruling my CD player right now.

[onthefringe]

rise against because of siren songs of the counter culture and catchy singles.

[phil19]

rise against is one of my favourite bands so they get the nod here easily

[Undue Noise]

Tough poll, but still Manchester Orchestra

[VIVALAMATT]

AP.net looooves Manchester, so I went with them.

Even though Rise Against is better.

[The Personist]

Manchester Orchestra, definitely.

[Ryzenfall]

A bit of an odd match, but I went with Manchester Orchestra. I'm a sucker for lyrics and MO swings hard in that department as well as many others.

[irthesteve]

This is one of the most disappointing of the polls, I am not happy with you AP

[tait]

manchester orchestra

[notoaststereo]

manchester orchestra

[mickmadethelist]

rise against, easily for me.

[mickmadethelist]

This is one of the most disappointing of the polls, I am not happy with you AP

agreed

[fadedmemories]

rise against, easily for me.
Great username :-)

[mickmadethelist]

Great username :-)

Thanks! im pretty happy with it.:irule:

[TSLataris]

This is one of the most disappointing of the polls, I am not happy with you AP

Yeah, for reals.

[Tony Pascarella]

Fucking blasphemy. Jesus.

You have an unproven band that has just latched onto an artist that this site loves versus an established punk band that has not only thrived but also thrived in the context of a major label without compromising what they believe in (which is rare at best).

[FaceLixeMurder]

Rise against is terrible, so definitely man orch.

[just.Starla.]

Manchester

[SteffRyanFail]

I wish these two weren't paired together.


Manchester Orchestra

[ellenfg.]

this was tricky.
i went for rise against purely because i've heard more & know them more than manchester orch.
but hell, either's a winner.

[princesschad]

Can't stand Manchester, so went with Rise.

[trappedintime]

Manchester Orchestra

[batmannj]

MO just because from what I have heard the new album is great and they grew quite a bit. Rise Against has some terrific albums, but Appeal To Reason was a generic Alt Rock record.

[ascitiesburn101]

Manchester Orchestra show promise; Rise Against show signs of balding.

[Yellowcard2006]

Rise Against. Manchester hasn't been around long enough.

[prefix-core]

I'm supporting Rise Against in this based purely on the fact that I'm a bigger fan of them. That and they've had more of an impact on the scene than any other band in the brackets thus far.

[stereokiller]

am i the only one who doesn't know MO?

wow. where have i gone to lately.

tried liking MO on myspace...

dunno if it will stick but for now i'm going for RA.

[Alex DiVincenzo]

Rise Against

[uglystar03]

I enjoy both bands, but Manchester Orchestra only has one proper full length thus far and a bunch of unreleased material. They've only been in rotation for a year or two for me, while I have been listening to Rise Against since I was 14.

[zubinmoosa]

Can't believe how much of a blowout this is: Rise Against have been a punk staple for so long. Really shows the power of hype.

[BrennanHickson]

My vote went to Manchester Orchestra.

[Broclee]

Can't believe how much of a blowout this is: Rise Against have been a punk staple for so long. Really shows the power of hype.

Or maybe a lot of people just think Manchester are a great band and don't like Rise Against. I know I'm not the only one.

[fran.182]

Rise Against, easily.

MO are really overrated imo...
Such a shame RA is against an AP crowned band at the first round... A certain loss...
Ugh! :-( They are in my all time top 10 bands.

[fran.182]

AP.net looooves Manchester, so I went with them.

Even though Rise Against is better.

M-( That's damn stupid...

[Bruised26]

I love both of these bands, but Manchester Orchestra is just more musically talented, in my opinion.

[Julia Conny]

Thank goodness Manchester is winning. I will cry if they don't at least advance one round.

[Hagysaurus Rex]

Rise Against are much better musically, and I'd rather listen to them any day of the week. I didn't expect MO to be winning at all. This must be one of those 5/12 trap games.

[spunkmastaflex]

Rise against hands down. If Manchester wins this, i lose faith in this website

[awakeohsleeper]

Manchester Orchestra. Easy.

[SeanEBoy2686]

Was Manchester Orchestra a one seed and Rise Against a sixteen seed? Almost any band you put against Manchester on this site at this time is going to lose.

I voted for Rise Against.

[FueledByFrodo]

Not even close. Manchester.

[irthesteve]

Fucking blasphemy. Jesus.

You have an unproven band that has just latched onto an artist that this site loves versus an established punk band that has not only thrived but also thrived in the context of a major label without compromising what they believe in (which is rare at best).
exactly

[xSpillFiction]

Rise Against is good... but not nearly as good as Manchester.

[npmshah]

Rise Against... theyre music always strikes a chord with me

[PenThrive]

Manchester O.

[cscwell107]

I give it to Rise Against just for Siren Song of the Counter Culture

[raptorz44]

manchester orchestra vote 666 aaaah

[foisol]

Rise Against

[polarbearsummer]

theres nothing wrong with rise against. but manchester orchestra are way more talented

[ijbet59]

manchester. no questions.

[TalkShowsOnMute]

Even though I've only been really into them for a few months now, it's gotta be Manchester. Can't wait for the new album.

[Corgkowznor]

Rise Against in a no brainer...cannot believe Manchester is winning this right now.

[hailthewarrior]

Where Have You Been vs Blood To Bleed... ManOrc.

[ericsounds41]

I'd say Rise Against..

[FailedRepublic]

Rise Against. Haven't been able to get into Manchester Orchestra thus far.
Yeah, would've loved to see them kick ass.
Siren Song is just plain epic.
So are the rest of their albums, but Siren trumps all.

Woah wrong quote >.<

[seraph1214]

Manchester gets my vote.

[zubinmoosa]

I've been listening and re-listening to Manchester Orchestra's discography this past week. Incredible, incredible band. It just surprises me to see such an influential band going down so quickly. I guess RA has been heading downhill in people's eyes (even though IMO their last two had some very good tracks on them)

[FailedRepublic]

I've been listening and re-listening to Manchester Orchestra's discography this past week. Incredible, incredible band. It just surprises me to see such an influential band going down so quickly. I guess RA has been heading downhill in people's eyes (even though IMO their last two had some very good tracks on them)

Rise...Against...Can't...Go...Down. ..Hill *twitch*
xP I have all their albums + the EP and Generation Lost, and I think that if anything they've gotten better. They might not have the raw powerful-ness of RPM and The Unraveling, but they're still addressing issues.

Edit: To be honest, I've never heard Manchester Orchestra, but I'll make sure to check them out

[Zachals]

siren song was such a great album

[FailedRepublic]

Yeah, State of The Union, Anywhere But Here, Swing Life Away, Rumours of my Demise Have Been Greatly Exaggerated....*joygasm*

[crimesides]

Manchester will win no doubt, but I voted for Rise Against.

[concealer611]

I went Rise Against. Rise Against has been doing it for longer, although Manchester is off to a good start. I prefer faster musically typically anyways.

[JCCC]

Fucking blasphemy. Jesus.

You have an unproven band that has just latched onto an artist that this site loves versus an established punk band that has not only thrived but also thrived in the context of a major label without compromising what they believe in (which is rare at best).

agreed.

The fact that RA will probably be defeated in the first round is unbelievable. They are one of the only bands from the scene that have found a huge mainstream audience without compromise. You can't say the same for FOB or Paramore and it's sad that RA will end up being below both of those bands in this poll.

[FailedRepublic]

agreed.

The fact that RA will probably be defeated in the first round is unbelievable. They are one of the only bands from the scene that have found a huge mainstream audience without compromise. You can't say the same for FOB or Paramore and it's sad that RA will end up being below both of those bands in this poll.

I know, it's pretty damn sad.

Edit: No ostriches, but I've got the next best thing:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/242/445910229_5999872ec0.jpg?v=0

[Chancetobe]

Without a question MO. I don't really like Rise Against.

[CS Lewis]

I'm voting for Manchester Orchestra, but I think a lot of their support is hype. Mainly from Br& New. It seems as if Brand New, mainly Jesse Lacey, shows interests in other artists, whether it be Andy Hull, Dustin Kensure or Kevin Devine, then everyone will take said artist as if they've been annointed by God himself. Personally, I think it's kind of sad that they are beating Rise Against with only one full-length released. I think people just like sucking Jesse and comanpy's johnson's. I know more of MO's music than RA's which is easy because they haven't been around as long as RA never did anything for me. But, I feel as that if you put MO against anybody else they'd win automatically because of hype. Unless it was against Blink 182, Brand New, or Thrice. Which, they'd probably could take Thrice down too. I love MO and they are a great band, but the hype is getting a bit overboard. If they never had any ties or relation to Brand New they wouldn't get nearly as much attention. Fact.

[TheHoldSteady]

Love Rise Against for sure. One of my favorites.
However...Manchester is it for me.

[Tony Pascarella]

:wallbash:

This still completely blows my mind.

[screamoutmyname]

hah... here's the one guy voting for rise against... i just never got on the manchester bandwagon

[FailedRepublic]

I know, I listened to a few Manchester Orchestra songs and, to be honest, didn't particularly enjoy them. In no way can they compare to Rise Against.

:viking:

[Shrillex]

Manchester.

[FailedRepublic]

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'Nuff Said

[samsara]

MO for sure

[FailedRepublic]

*feeble* Yay Rise Against is getting up there.....0.01% at a time

[Tony Pascarella]

So all you Manchester Orchestra fans are going to buy the album when it comes out, right? :rolleyes:

[amber3]

Rise Against.

[stereokiller]

what the hell!

RISE AGAINST. RISE AGAINST!

[FailedRepublic]

Wow, we actually stand a chance :D last time I checked MO had something like a 250 point lead.

Rise Against Forever!

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[MyNameIsRoss]

I said ManOrch.

[FailedRepublic]

From the amount we've gained it's looking like Rise Against has a solid chance >:]

[LvAzure]

why is this one soo close?? i guess i really haven't given manchester orchestra the proper listening time. my vote is still for rise against tho... too many high school memories jammin out to them.

[fadedmemories]

How the hell is MO losing?

[FailedRepublic]

How the hell is MO losing?
How could they not?! Machester is nothing next to Rise Against.

[zubinmoosa]

All these polls are taking quite a turn. I think they should close after 24 hours, before all the respective bands' fan clubs get a hold of them.

[stereokiller]

Wow, we actually stand a chance :D last time I checked MO had something like a 250 point lead.

Rise Against Forever!

[img=http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/9229/riseagainstmanchesteror.th.png] (http://img7.imageshack.us/my.php?image=riseagainstmanchestero r.png)

YEAAAAH!

Rise Against Rise Against!

All the RA fans are slowly unburrowing themselves.

Can I vote twice? Vote twice for RAAA!

[NateFoundGlory]

YEAAAAH!

Rise Against Rise Against!

All the RA fans are slowly unburrowing themselves.

Can I vote twice? Vote twice for RAAA!

I've noticed some people are getting way too into this stuff haha.

[FailedRepublic]

Psssh I'm totally not one of those people xD

[nellbelle]

Rise Against got my vote. I've tried listening to MO, but the singer's voice grates on my nerves in a bad way. Musically, I like them. Vocally, not so much. Rise Against, on the other hand, are a band I own every single release from and can listen to at absolutely any time. Each album has been solid, they've stuck to their views even while making it in the mainstream, and they just seem to be maturing in a way that I can appreciate.

I would really like to know how these brackets were chosen, because none of them make any kind of sense to me. How is it in any way logical to put a band that is incredibly hyped but has only thus far released one album against a band with a solid catalogue of albums? Not to mention the fact that they're also from entirely different genres.

[PunkDrums182]

i cant believe rise against is winning :(

[spunkmastaflex]

Well, also look at this, Rise Against has 2 really really ridiculously good albums and has been publicly successful and its barely beating MO right now who has had almost no public helping really speaks something for MO. But alas, I love Rise Against, Sufferer and the Witness is my favorite cd of all time

[FailedRepublic]

Well, also look at this, Rise Against has 2 really really ridiculously good albums and has been publicly successful and its barely beating MO right now who has had almost no public helping really speaks something for MO. But alas, I love Rise Against, Sufferer and the Witness is my favorite cd of all time

I don't wanna sound like a hater, but all they really have is hype. If not for Brand New, I doubt the poll would be anywhere as close.

[Broclee]

I don't wanna sound like a hater, but all they really have is hype. If not for Brand New, I doubt the poll would be anywhere as close.

They actually have this great debut album, a great EP, and a new album coming out that's shaping up to be great.

I guess that doesn't count for anything, though?

[FailedRepublic]

Nope.

I'm just kidding. ;]

That didn't come out quite like I'd intended, sorry. What I mean is that a new barely established band that is not anything amazing (in my opinion) keeping up with a well established and amazing band (again opinion) is just strange. Sorry if I'm not making much sense, strep sucks.

[Broclee]

Nope.

I'm just kidding. ;]

That didn't come out quite like I'd intended, sorry. What I mean is that a new barely established band that is not anything amazing (in my opinion) keeping up with a well established and amazing band (again opinion) is just strange. Sorry if I'm not making much sense, strep sucks.

Yeah, that changes the meaning.

It's all based on opinion. I don't like Rise Against, love Machester Orchestra. True, they're not very well established, but their debut was amazing (for the style), not to mention they did receive some insane hype.

[FailedRepublic]

Yeah sorry to cause that confusion >.<

[Broclee]

It's all good. All of these are based on opinion anyways.

[FailedRepublic]

And they also have an unreleased album, an older EP and a bunch of other demos/unreleased stuff as well. All the people talking shit about them apparently don't realize how much material they actually have. Usually I disregard the hype for many bands but MO is well worth the hype. I remember Jason Tate discussing the new MO album and saying it will be an influential and defining album like In the Aeroplane Over the Sea. That just makes me more stoked for it. I fucking love RA but in the long run MO will no doubt prove to be the better band

We'll see, we'll see

As I listen to more MO, I'm starting to get a better grasp of them, I'm liking them a lot more.

But Rise Against is my favorite band by far, and no one I've ever heard has a chance of pushing them out of that spot.

I'll definitely keep my ears open for Machester

[fadedmemories]

How could they not?! Machester is nothing next to Rise Against.
What the fuck!?
All these polls are taking quite a turn. I think they should close after 24 hours, before all the respective bands' fan clubs get a hold of them.
True that.

[FailedRepublic]

What the fuck!?

Sorry, I spoke too soon. At that point I hadn't listened to much MO, and now that I have, I agree that they are good, but I still think Rise Against beats them out pretty well.

[fadedmemories]

Sorry, I spoke too soon. At that point I hadn't listened to much MO, and now that I have, I agree that they are good, but I still think Rise Against beats them out pretty well.
MO is already better than RA and after the new record is released, will probably be way better than they already are.

[Broclee]

And they also have an unreleased album, an older EP and a bunch of other demos/unreleased stuff as well. All the people talking shit about them apparently don't realize how much material they actually have. Usually I disregard the hype for many bands but MO is well worth the hype. I remember Jason Tate discussing the new MO album and saying it will be an influential and defining album like In the Aeroplane Over the Sea. That just makes me more stoked for it. I fucking love RA but in the long run MO will no doubt prove to be the better band

Ah, you're right, I knew about the unreleased album, but I'm only speaking off what I've heard.

[nellbelle]

The band were pulled from the most listened to bands on last.fm by AP users and then matched up at random. That is exactly why most of the match ups are fucking ridiculous

See, that system makes no sense to me. I mean, I won't claim to know shit about how March Madness works because I really don't give a damn about basketball, but if you're going for balanced and legitimate faceoffs, shouldn't it start with bands that are logically evenly matched? Granted, apparently MO and RA were something of an even match, since it's almost balanced out now to where the voting is practically even, but still.

Anyways, I don't know why these "playoffs" are even being bothered with. Everyone knows it'll just come down to a Blink 182 vs. Brand New showdown.

[mycuban]

Manchester Orchestra, i just prefer them more.

[FailedRepublic]

MO is already better than RA and after the new record is released, will probably be way better than they already are.

And that's what I thought about Panic..... :'(

[Broclee]

And that's what I thought about Panic..... :'(

Pretty. Odd. was amazing, one of my AOTY's.

[zubinmoosa]

And that's what I thought about Panic..... :'(
Panic's second album was miles better than their first

[billyboatkid]

I like Rise Against, but lately I've been all about Manchester.

So MO for me.

[FailedRepublic]

Panic's second album was miles better than their first

I would've liked it more if I had been expecting to go on an acid trip through my ears >;]

I personally didn't like it, because I fell in love with Panic's original sound, and psychedelic isn't particular high on my list of favorite genres. Maybe not really a genre in and of itself, but I just prefer their old style.

[Merkin]

diff groups, but you gotta go with rise against on the basis that theyve been a band for longer

[zubinmoosa]

I would've liked it more if I had been expecting to go on an acid trip through my ears >;]

I personally didn't like it, because I fell in love with Panic's original sound, and psychedelic isn't particular high on my list of favorite genres. Maybe not really a genre in and of itself, but I just prefer their old style.
acid trip? psychadelic?

you really are 14

[Broclee]

I would've liked it more if I had been expecting to go on an acid trip through my ears >;]

I personally didn't like it, because I fell in love with Panic's original sound, and psychedelic isn't particular high on my list of favorite genres. Maybe not really a genre in and of itself, but I just prefer their old style.

While it was certainly different from A Fever... it was far from the psychedelic genre. I thought of it more as old-style pop-rock, throwing back to the 60's and 50's with some modern flair. I absolutely loved it. Not to mention musically it was lightyears ahead of A Fever....

[fran.182]

I can't believe it!
How the fuck are RA on the lead? They were so far away! They had something like less 300 votes.
Glad they may go on to the next round. :-d

<3 Rise Against

[FailedRepublic]

acid trip? psychadelic?

you really are 14

Yes I am.

Maybe that wasn't the best way to put it, I just feel it comes off in that kind of style.

I'm not saying that it had nothing good about it. I really enjoy Northern Downpour, That Green Gentleman, and a few others that slip my mind.

And I agree with whoever said it was better musically (Assuming you meant vocal quality and instrumentally), I just prefer Fever.

The album I prefer is my personal opinion, and I'm not trying to convince anyone that it is better, and you're just as entitled to your opinion as I am to mine. All I'm trying to say is that Pretty Odd disappointed me. I'm sorry I misstated the album as psychedelic and an auditory acid trip, that's just my take on it.

[Broclee]

It's all good, just discussing on my end. Sorry if I came off as a douche.

[FailedRepublic]

Nah you didn't come off as a douche don't worry :)

[Spenny]

How the hell did a MO/RA vote turn into a debate over which Panic at the Disco CD is better? :-|

[Broclee]

How the hell did a MO/RA vote turn into a debate over which Panic at the Disco CD is better? :-|

Somebody mentioned the new Manchester album coming out and how it was going to be great, someone countered with a "not if they pull a panic at the disco"-esque comment, thus discussion was born.

[Spenny]

Somebody mentioned the new Manchester album coming out and how it was going to be great, someone countered with a "not if they pull a panic at the disco"-esque comment, thus discussion was born.
Ah I see.
I like both albums from Panic, tbh.
Probably Fever more because it is more accessible and it was their first CD. That means a lot to me because they were the first band I listened to that got me into this kind of "scene" (I previously was the type of person who listened to stuff like Twista, Eminem, Simple Plan, Good Charlotte, etc.) I saw them on PureVolume when they first got massive attention through it, heard one song and was instantly hooked.
Pretty.Odd is still great though.

[Broclee]

Ah I see.
I like both albums from Panic, tbh.
Probably Fever more because it is more accessible and it was their first CD. That means a lot to me because they were the first band I listened to that got me into this kind of "scene" (I previously was the type of person who listened to stuff like Twista, Eminem, Simple Plan, Good Charlotte, etc.) I saw them on PureVolume when they first got massive attention through it, heard one song and was instantly hooked.
Pretty.Odd is still great though.

They're both great albums, I just like Pretty. Odd. more.

In other news, this has gotten a lot closer...something like 13 votes now.

[FailedRepublic]

Somebody mentioned the new Manchester album coming out and how it was going to be great, someone countered with a "not if they pull a panic at the disco"-esque comment, thus discussion was born.
Sorry :-0

[Broclee]

Hahaha, nothing to be sorry about, good discussion.

[FailedRepublic]

Ok, I'm just always worrying 'bout that kinda thing xP

[fadedmemories]

And that's what I thought about Panic..... :'(
and then:
Panic's second album was miles better than their first

[DaveZeroZero]

MO every time.

[Tony Pascarella]

Manchester Orchestra still leading is a smack in the face to music fans. Five years down the road, maybe. But they haven't been around very long and have yet to do anything that would give them something to stand on here.

As I said earlier in the thread, all of you voting for them will be buying their new album, right? :rolleyes:

[Broclee]

Manchester Orchestra still leading is a smack in the face to music fans. Five years down the road, maybe. But they haven't been around very long and have yet to do anything that would give them something to stand on here.

As I said earlier in the thread, all of you voting for them will be buying their new album, right? :rolleyes:

Rise Against got a good footing and a good leading going for a while. I think there's some mass "fan club" voting going on, so the next round will eliminate that. I still voted for Manchester, though.

Oh, and yeah, I'm buying their new record. Sorry, I just don't like Rise Against.

[threepunchjim]

This was a very tough vote for me, but I voted Manchester Orchestra because, though I love Rise Against, Manchester Orchestra's releases seem to do more for me in the long run.

That's about what I think. Both bands release phenomenal material, and both songwriters write smart and pointed lyrics corresponding to their corresponding intellectual fortes. But to me Manchester definitely has more lasting value.

[ihatecayte]

why are people inferring that just because rise against has been around longer that people should be automatically voting for them? that's just dumb.

[Spenny]

why are people inferring that just because rise against has been around longer that people should be automatically voting for them? that's just dumb.
Probably because MO has only one album so far (can't count the new one, it isn't out for another month and I'm not counting EPs), while Rise Against has had five. I mean, MO is outstanding, but it cannot compare to Rise Against. I haven't heard The Unraveling, honestly, but their other four LPs are outstanding (Yes, even Appeal to Reason). And I haven't seen Manchester Orchestra live (I could coming up, but it's at a 19+ venue), but Rise Against is absolutely electric. The last concert they played (w/ Thrice, Alkaline Trio and The Gaslight Anthem) had the best atmosphere of anything I've seen in ages. Even the people in the seats were all on their feet and going wild. It was a great sight to see.

I guess it still all boils down to opinion, regardless, but just my two cents.

[DaveZeroZero]

why are people inferring that just because rise against has been around longer that people should be automatically voting for them? that's just dumb.
*Implying

[hf57]

MO by far

[ihatecayte]

Probably because MO has only one album so far (can't count the new one, it isn't out for another month and I'm not counting EPs), while Rise Against has had five. I mean, MO is outstanding, but it cannot compare to Rise Against. I haven't heard The Unraveling, honestly, but their other four LPs are outstanding (Yes, even Appeal to Reason). And I haven't seen Manchester Orchestra live (I could coming up, but it's at a 19+ venue), but Rise Against is absolutely electric. The last concert they played (w/ Thrice, Alkaline Trio and The Gaslight Anthem) had the best atmosphere of anything I've seen in ages. Even the people in the seats were all on their feet and going wild. It was a great sight to see.

I guess it still all boils down to opinion, regardless, but just my two cents.

do you know how much non-album, non-ep material man-o has? a ridiculous amount for only have one legit album. plus, their live show is impeccable. i've seen them 3 separate times in the past 2 years, as they've evolved, and all shows were so solid, even when the crowd was full of douchebags when they toured with say anything.

i know it's all opinion, but i think it's silly for people to just be like, "rise against has more albums, therefore they're better." they've had more time to BE better, but the one legit album man-o has is sooooo so good.

:shrug:

[FailedRepublic]

do you know how much non-album, non-ep material man-o has? a ridiculous amount for only have one legit album. plus, their live show is impeccable. i've seen them 3 separate times in the past 2 years, as they've evolved, and all shows were so solid, even when the crowd was full of douchebags when they toured with say anything.

i know it's all opinion, but i think it's silly for people to just be like, "rise against has more albums, therefore they're better." they've had more time to BE better, but the one legit album man-o has is sooooo so good.

:shrug:

I agree with the bolded, Rise Against should not be considered better because of their longer establishment, however it is my opinion that Rise Against is musically better, and that is a legitimate reason to vote for them :)

[zubinmoosa]

Holy comeback Batman!

[Spenny]

do you know how much non-album, non-ep material man-o has? a ridiculous amount for only have one legit album. plus, their live show is impeccable. i've seen them 3 separate times in the past 2 years, as they've evolved, and all shows were so solid, even when the crowd was full of douchebags when they toured with say anything.

i know it's all opinion, but i think it's silly for people to just be like, "rise against has more albums, therefore they're better." they've had more time to BE better, but the one legit album man-o has is sooooo so good.

:shrug:
I know, I think it's stupid to judge bands based on that too. I'm just saying that that is the reason people are probably doing so, because Rise Against has been around for many years longer and has a more prolific discography (at least where LPs are concerned, Rise Against doesn't have many EPs at all).

[roju]

wow that was close!

[DaveZeroZero]

Flawless victory

[stereokiller]

wait. is THIS for real?


THIS.

it's RISE AGAINST. it's RISE AGAINST. it's RISE AGAINST.

MO may be good but it's RISE AGAINST.

i think it's the hype.

[WasteofPaint31]

I call shenanigans

[Broclee]

wait. is THIS for real?


THIS.

it's RISE AGAINST. it's RISE AGAINST. it's RISE AGAINST.

MO may be good but it's RISE AGAINST.

i think it's the hype.

Or it could be people who like Manchester Orchestra better. Like me.

Rise Against has had a solid career and done their part for the scene, but that's not what the question is.

[golferpunk1]

Or it could be people who like Manchester Orchestra better. Like me.

Rise Against has had a solid career and done their part for the scene, but that's not what the question is.

I think its mostly due to the people that are on ap.net. Rise Against's fans are more mainstream/older and don't use this site. Everything from album sales/longevity/ticket sales says Rise Against is the more successful band. In that way they could be considered better. This is a poll for ap.net's favorite band so I guess this is appropriate.

[Broclee]

I think its mostly due to the people that are on ap.net. Rise Against's fans are more mainstream/older and don't use this site. Everything from album sales/longevity/ticket sales says Rise Against is the more successful band. In that way they could be considered better. This is a poll for ap.net's favorite band so I guess this is appropriate.

Well, yeah, it's about finding ap.net's favorite band, but better =/= favorite. Everyone's going to have a different opinion on which band is better.

[stereokiller]

Or it could be people who like Manchester Orchestra better. Like me.

Rise Against has had a solid career and done their part for the scene, but that's not what the question is.

hate to say it... but you are right.

oh well.

good luck to manorc on the next round.

[stereokiller]

I've noticed some people are getting way too into this stuff haha.

eeeh. hihihi. well, it's not everyday you see RA and MO against each other y'know.

[AussieBoy]

lord vader RIIIISSEE!!!

[dieselboy]

rise against

[Broclee]

rise against
It's over.

[DaveZeroZero]

That's a shame, because MO's new album is going to increase their popularity tenfold.

[stereokiller]

That's a shame, because MO's new album is going to increase their popularity tenfold.
K.

it's sad to see RA lost by measly thirty-five votes.

good fight though.

[DaveZeroZero]

YES!
YES!
YES!

Whoo, MO got through.