March Mayhem Round 1: mewithoutYou vs. Weezer

[Anton Djamoos]

Who is your favorite band out of these two? Be sure to read the replies for other users' cases for each band.

[Drew Beringer]

mwY

[zubinmoosa]

mwY. Damn it would suck if they lose first round.

[unnameworthy]

mewithoutYou. This isn't even a contest.

[FireInTheSky]

mewithoutYou by far. one of the most talented bands out there.

[TheDemosRock]

I'm surprised that Weezer isn't killing.

[x1onexwo1fx]

ouch. it's 50/50 right now. i hope mwy wins, though i should really start listening to weezer.

[Pat k]

Weezer should win.

[TheDemosRock]

Maybe I just don't know anything though.

I don't really like either band that much

[xJesusFreakx]

Wow, if mewithoutYou gets knocked out in the first round... I don't even know. Aaron Weiss is such a great lyricist, as well an overall amazing (and bizarre) guy.

[Cue the Sun]

I could never get into mwY

[irthesteve]

Weezer for sure, Blue and Pinkerton alone could win this, but throw in Red and Maladroit and it's no competition anymore

[adam289]

Weezer.

[DroppedUrPocket]

i'm surprised my precious weezer is winning. blue and pink are two of the best albums ever made.

[avengedtbs]

Only really like the Blue album for Weezer. Like all three releases from mwY. Went with mwY.

[bluecrunchy]

These bands aren't even comparable.

[Keagan Ilvonen]

It's hard to compare these bands. Blue album and Pinkerton are two of my favorite albums from the 90's but after that the weezer gimmick got old to me. While mwY has released great albums that actually have lyrical depth to them. I'm going to have to go with mwY.

[TheWeakest]

that sucks for mewithoutYou getting paired up with Weezer first round. Wow i'm actually looking at this like its March Madness.

[nateisawesome]

Weezer

[HometownHero]

Why is Weezer winning right now. That is shameful

[WhoSaidThat?]

Weezer.

[bouttogetfancy]

maaan why did you guys have to put mewithoutYou against weezer in the first round?

[PunkDrums182]

I love mewithoutyou, I assumed Weezer would win though.

[NortyCore]

idk if youve seen MWY live. or listened to them for that matter. im sure id pick brokencyde or any shitty band over MWY. i saw them like 2 weeks ago and they just....i cant discribe it. they tried so hard to turn all the booing and middle fingers and get off the stage into positive energy.

[irthesteve]

I approve of the direction of this poll

[fluke182]

Blue Album > anything and everything mewithoutyou will ever do.

This is the only one I've voted on that I'm siding with the leader. These seedings are kind of odd.

[alann]

This is the hardest one.
Weezer.

[Fury15]

If Weezer loses this contest this site should explode. Not figuratively.

[newfoundmichael]

This was tough. What a bummer for mewithoutyou though..

[Jamos4184]

Weezer is such a classic band, but I voted for mwY. I can't believe how badly they're gettin beat.

[what_ever]

I feel like Weezer has more scene cred and more universal appeal.. easy choice.

[live.]

Weezer gets my vote out of respect. Like Ken Griffey Jr. at the All-Star game.

[j-mil]

I'm really sad at how badly mwY is getting beat.

[DroppedUrPocket]

weezer is bigger than jesus.

[TakenByCars]

Weezah!

[Broclee]

idk if youve seen MWY live. or listened to them for that matter. im sure id pick brokencyde or any shitty band over MWY. i saw them like 2 weeks ago and they just....i cant discribe it. they tried so hard to turn all the booing and middle fingers and get off the stage into positive energy.

You'd honestly pick brokencyde over mewithoutYou?
:eyebrow:

[Clark]

This is a fucked up matchup. Poor mewithoutYou. I voted for them.

[Jamos4184]

idk if youve seen MWY live. or listened to them for that matter. im sure id pick brokencyde or any shitty band over MWY. i saw them like 2 weeks ago and they just....i cant discribe it. they tried so hard to turn all the booing and middle fingers and get off the stage into positive energy.


I'll tell you, the first time I saw mewithoutYou live, I was stunned. I had no idea what I had just witnessed and I didn't want to know or remember. That being said, I have since changed my mind, because I opened up my mind to what they were doing, realizing that it was completely different from every other cookie-cutter band out there, both stylistically and lyrically. Granted, Weezer have been around much, much longer and have paved the way for a lot of bands in the "scene" today. But, unlike those bands mewithoutYou actually display creativity and make good use of their talent. With that, I will say mewithoutYou is not a band "for everyone". Seems like you either love them, or you hate them. Hate just takes so much more effort.

[Anton Djamoos]

Were the bands picked at random for the MM thing?
The bands themselves? I took from AP.net's last.fm group and I took news posts into consideration. It's a good list.

[GRIFFARD]

Weezer is huge, so this sucks for mwY. Weezer's career is like a trigonometric curve with x->infinity, y->zero.
as in, they're getting worse and worse.
mwY is consistent, and even gets better imo. so yeah

[bouttogetfancy]

yeah some match ups make sense and the others are the odd ones out I guess?

[GRIFFARD]

No not the bands the matchups. They seem pretty random

uh seeded maybe? like the actual march madness?

[Anton Djamoos]

No not the bands the matchups. They seem pretty random
All randomized.

[NortyCore]

You'd honestly pick brokencyde over mewithoutYou?
:eyebrow:

i despise brokencyde. im just saying. now that i think about it, thats an awful comparison and i take it back haha.

[tonyC4L]

I like more mwY albums than Weezer albums.

[NortyCore]

Like magic Jesus energy?

magic jesus energy couldnt have made it better.

[s.t.e.v.e.n.]

Blue Album is great but thats about it for me

mwY is consistently great

Good matchup though

[abandonship]

mwY easily, I think weezer sucks

[atticusfinch]

how in the world is mwY losing this?!?

The lyrics Mr. Weiss disperses are flawless.

Weezer is great and all, but seriously.

mwy>>>>>>>>>>>>Weezer.

[dave42]

man i am probably one of the few people on here you can say they own every album from both of these bands and i will tell you straight up... weezer is nothing compared to mewithoutYou.

mewithoutYou is a band holding up what little creativity still lives in the music scene these days... weezer is a band that makes a living off of catchy songs, annoying, distorted power chords, and simple repetitive riffs. Rivers is a great singer and weezer is great at what they do, they are a band i do like and everything...

but as muscisians... they sympolize uncreative, rehashed, formulaic music that, since pinkerton, has lacked great effort both intrumentally and lyrically.

blue and pinkerton are both amazing albums, but even if it was catchy, everything save for malidroit has been rehashed garbage. and malidroit, while not rehashed garbage to the same extent... still is not that great at all.

i understand blue and pinkerton are better than any cd mwY has made (thought brother, sister is up there), and i totally agree. but you can't just take their good without measuring the bad, and there are few albums in my cd collection i care less about than green, red, and make believe. those albums drag the rest down pretty badly. every mewithoutYou album has been good so far, save for brother, sister which was incredible. weezer has released too many embarrassing efforts for me to regard so highly anymore.

it is depressing to know that weezer will win this mainly because everyone knows them and some of there songs, but few people know mewithoutYou. they play a music style that will never get them the credit or recognition they deserve.

again, i like weezer. that's why i own their albums. they are a great band when they were more inspired. but in terms of basketball, this is like you trying to tell me that vince carter is a better player than shane battier. you may not like shane battier.. or even know who he is, but he is pure substance on the basketball court. vince carter is a lazy underacheiver who puts up big numbers on teams that never get far. shane battier plays the game with respect, and impacts his teammates to play better. his teams are always competitive and potent. any team in the nba would take battier over carter, save for a GM who needs a marketable player just to draw interest to a terrible team.

[Bloodsucker II]

mewithoutYou by far, I cant believe mwY is getting own3d so hard.

[ashley916]

lead singer of mewithoutyou creeps me out...not a fan of his vocals either. so i voted for matchbook romance

[DroppedUrPocket]

but as muscisians... they sympolize uncreative, rehashed, formulaic music that, since pinkerton, has lacked great effort both intrumentally and lyrically.


have you heard the majority of the bands covered on this website? seriously. i think weezer deserves a little bit more credit than that.

[Thomas Balkcom]

I was hoping mwY wouldn't get paired up with someone like Weezer but what can you do. mewithoutYou is a top 3 all-time band for me, so they easily get my vote

[Spenny]

This is disappointing.
mwY is so much better than Weezer. :|

[oncedarkness]

mwY, but i think Weezer will take it

[andrewshungry]

been getting back into weezer lately. they've got some good shit

[STFUcatherine]

oh shit come on mwy is incredible

[Cheesus]

lead singer of mewithoutyou creeps me out...not a fan of his vocals either. so i voted for matchbook romance
your avatar creeps me out.

[Undue Noise]

mwY for me.

[kdefrisc]

AAAHHH how is mwY losing? they are amazing, can't wait for the new album

[onthefringe]

make believe was the soundtrack of my 2005 summer. so weezer wins.

[VIVALAMATT]

Oh what the hell, are people actually thinking mwY is more talented than Weezer?

Listen to the Blue Album.

Weezer wins.

[VIVALAMATT]

AAAHHH how is mwY losing? they are amazing, can't wait for the new album

Weezer's never had a bad album, that's why mwY is losing.

[The Personist]

How could I not vote mwY? I love Weezer, but mwY far surpasses them in my eyes.

[Ryzenfall]

mwY. Crud, first round already?

These guys should have been up against Manchester. Lyrics wise, I wouldn't know what to vote.

[Ryzenfall]

lead singer of mewithoutyou creeps me out...not a fan of his vocals either. so i voted for matchbook romance

wut.

[boomerangslang]

Pinkerton is so good. Has to be Weezer.

[notoaststereo]

weezer.

[kdefrisc]

Weezer's never had a bad album, that's why mwY is losing.

nor have they had a truly amazing album. weezer is fun and all, they're always a band i can have a good time listening to but its really all the same and not very impactful

mediocre staying ability is beating out actual creativity? sad indeed.

[dave42]

have you heard the majority of the bands covered on this website? seriously. i think weezer deserves a little bit more credit than that.

I like Weezer... but they haven't done anything that makes them what they are known to be in years. that's why I compared them to Vince Carter... they are big underachievers. If they never did blue or pinkerton, i'd consider them a solid band, not up with mewithoutYou, but a solid band. but because of how much BETTER blue and pinkerton was than their albums since, weezer is instead a super talented, super underachieving band. nothing on their albums other than maladroit felt all that inspired, and that was only instrumentally. i haven't felt connected to a weezer song lyrically since pinkerton. i always just get the vibe off their post pinkerton albums like "crap, well i guess we are weezer or whatever so lets write some songs or something, make fans happy and what not"

i didn't really find a single song on either of their last two albums interesting... some catchy songs, yeah... but nothing felt personal or inspired. i hope to hell rivers finds something that moves him, becuase he's a fantastic songwriter. heres to hoping.

nor have they had a truly amazing album. weezer is fun and all, they're always a band i can have a good time listening to but its really all the same and not very impactful

mediocre staying ability is beating out actual creativity? sad indeed.

i agree except that i think Pinkerton was truly amazing. lyrically incredible, and far from just being fun.

again though, i am totally on your side here. mwY deserves far more respect in my book than weezer. but pinkerton was incredible. if rivers didn't get so hurt over people not accepting pinkerton and they didn't wuss the band out, i think they would've been far more amazing. i hate to say it, because i think the term is so overused, but weezer really sold out after pinkerton. they just gave up.

mwY writes the music most people don't like as much anyway, and lack of recognition never stops them.

[bung]

mwy is cute. weezer by far.

[Cheesus]

I like Weezer... but they haven't done anything that makes them what they are known to be in years. that's why I compared them to Vince Carter... they are big underachievers. If they never did blue or pinkerton, i'd consider them a solid band, not up with mewithoutYou, but a solid band. but because of how much BETTER blue and pinkerton was than their albums since, weezer is instead a super talented, super underachieving band. nothing on their albums other than maladroit felt all that inspired, and that was only instrumentally. i haven't felt connected to a weezer song lyrically since pinkerton. i always just get the vibe off their post pinkerton albums like "crap, well i guess we are weezer or whatever so lets write some songs or something, make fans happy and what not"

i didn't really find a single song on either of their last two albums interesting... some catchy songs, yeah... but nothing felt personal or inspired. i hope to hell rivers finds something that moves him, becuase he's a fantastic songwriter. heres to hoping.


:appl:

[SaltyEyes]

Whoever made this pairing is evil. such a hard choice, Weezer though

[hydraulicheart]

If I could vote a million times, it'd be for mewithoutYou. I hate that they're up against Weezer.

[youngmountain]

Ah as if mwY it going to lose this one

[yellowhouse]

Weezer is winning this? Really? That is seriously upsetting.

[yellowhouse]

mwy is cute. weezer by far.

Explain.

[EndSerenading]

meh, i loved blue and pinkerton but nothing since then. plus mwY blow weezer away live.

mwY deserves to win, but weezer will probably win this

[albertad]

this is hard...mwY

[ShadowAmI]

In about two months, all you Weezer voters will realize you've made a huge mistake, but it will be too late.

[mortal soldier]

i can understand why weezer is winning (the blue album is fantastic), but goddamn mwY is so fricking good. brother, sister is one of my favorite albums of all time.

[EndSerenading]

agreed. this is an unfortunate matchup. looking at all 20 bands taking place in this first day of voting, mwY is in my opinion, at least 2nd best of the entire group and they will end up losing first round haha.

[FaceLixeMurder]

Why the hell is Weezer winning? Blue Album and Pinkerton are great but everything after is trash...

[squared82]

Two of my all time favorites. Lame that they're against each other so early.

[just.Starla.]

Weezer

[CloseToShore]

mewithoutYou easily. Sucks they won't make it.

[princesschad]

Weezer is rightfully winning, Blue Album has done more for music than anything mwY will ever do.

[trappedintime]

mewithoutYouftw

[batmannj]

It makes me sad to think that mwY might not even get to the second round. Weezer is good, but their last few albums have just been a few fun singles and filler, while mwY constantly pushes the envelope in terms of musical creativity.

[bung]

Explain.

They try way too hard to be all poetic and deep and serious and all that.

oh and if I'm not mistaken they're all Bible-ish which is a -1.

[derekmoyer4]

weezer is awful

[yellowhouse]

They try way too hard to be all poetic and deep and serious and all that.

They don't have to try, they just are. Aaron Weiss is the best lyricist in music today. As a band, they are just on another level, with songs about spirituality and faith and religion that do not come off as preachy and obnoxious.

That being said, I feel really strongly about this band; I guess I could see how you think they try too hard though.

But still...

Weezer is "cute."
mewithoutYou is amazing :D

[bung]

Uh... ok.

[WFUJerseyJon]

Weezer no question at all.

[Alex DiVincenzo]

Weezer. Could never get into mwy.

[SkateFirm21]

you cant beat mwY lyrics

[Broclee]

i despise brokencyde. im just saying. now that i think about it, thats an awful comparison and i take it back haha.

I mean, I can understand if you don't like mewithoutYou, but you were implying that they're utter garbage, which is far from accurate.

[MADSTA]

Boo, Weezer. mwY shouldn't get knocked out in the first round. :-(

[Broclee]

Weezer is rightfully winning, Blue Album has done more for music than anything mwY will ever do.

I like Weezer and love the Blue Album, but really?

[iheartmusic043]

I love Weezer. Their older stuff is amazing.

[s.t.e.v.e.n.]

Oh what the hell, are people actually thinking mwY is more talented than Weezer?

Listen to the Blue Album.

Weezer wins.

Because they are. Creativity isn't even the point of Weezer.

I mean, I can understand if you don't like mewithoutYou, but you were implying that they're utter garbage, which is far from accurate.

This. I am fine with people not being into mwY. Weezer is far more accessible and its no surprise that they are more popular. But to come in here and say that mwY sucks or isn't creative is idiotic.

[princesschad]

I like Weezer and love the Blue Album, but really?

Yup.

[Charles777]

Cuomo is an idiot

[Iwasalid]

Every Weezer release is really hit or miss for me...I love a few of the songs but could always do without the rest of them....mwY has put out 3 really solid cds in my opinion

[justinmfi]

Weezer..need we say more?

[Broclee]

Yup.

Do you have any reasoning to go with your opinion?

[xashkox]

mwY was already an underdog - why put them up against weezer?

I really hope they can pull it out. mwY fans, unite!

[princesschad]

Do you have any reasoning to go with your opinion?

From wikipedia:

In the years since its release, The Blue Album has risen in stature to become one of the most highly-regarded albums of the 1990s, appearing on many "Best-of" lists. In 2003, Rolling Stone named the album among the "500 Greatest Albums of All Time."[29] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weezer_%28The_Blue_Album%29#cite_no te-RS1234-28) In 2002, the readers of Rolling Stone ranked the album the 21st greatest of all time.[30] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weezer_%28The_Blue_Album%29#cite_no te-RS90s-29) Blender (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blender_%28magazine%29)[31] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weezer_%28The_Blue_Album%29#cite_no te-Blender-30) named the Blue Album among the "500 CDs You Must Own", calling the album "Absolute geek-rock, out and proud." Non-U.S. publications have acclaimed the album as well: New Zealand's The Movement placed it at number 39 on a list of "The 101 Best Albums of the 90s",[32] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weezer_%28The_Blue_Album%29#cite_no te-31) and Visions of Germany ranked it number 32 on a list of "The Most Important Albums of the 90s."[33] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weezer_%28The_Blue_Album%29#cite_no te-32)
Reviews of the deluxe edition of the album have also been positive. In 2004, Popmatters (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popmatters) gave the album a very positive review and saying "I’d go so far to declare the 'Blue Album' one of the greatest records of the last 20 years." [34] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weezer_%28The_Blue_Album%29#cite_no te-times-33) Blogcritics Magazine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blogcritics) gave the album an 10/10 and asserted "this is one of the most important debut albums of the last ten years."[35] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weezer_%28The_Blue_Album%29#cite_no te-34)


In short, bands influenced by the Blue Album: countless
bands influenced by mwY: far, far fewer.

[Julia Conny]

Maybe I just don't know anything though.

I don't really like either band that much

Your avatar brings a smile to my face.

[Julia Conny]

Never could get into mwY ... I have to give it to Weezer.

[briewer]

Recent Weezer or Weezer's whole catalog? Because if we're talking about including The Blue Album and Pinkerton, this should be a blowout.

[awakeohsleeper]

mewithoutYou. Harsh that they have to face such tough competition!!

[absolution]

sucks that mwY is going to get knocked out in teh first round...come on...horrible seeding!

[spunkmastaflex]

Blue album was amazing

[absolution]

From wikipedia:

In the years since its release, The Blue Album has risen in stature to become one of the most highly-regarded albums of the 1990s, appearing on many "Best-of" lists. In 2003, Rolling Stone named the album among the "500 Greatest Albums of All Time."[29] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weezer_%28The_Blue_Album%29#cite_no te-RS1234-28) In 2002, the readers of Rolling Stone ranked the album the 21st greatest of all time.[30] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weezer_%28The_Blue_Album%29#cite_no te-RS90s-29) Blender (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blender_%28magazine%29)[31] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weezer_%28The_Blue_Album%29#cite_no te-Blender-30) named the Blue Album among the "500 CDs You Must Own", calling the album "Absolute geek-rock, out and proud." Non-U.S. publications have acclaimed the album as well: New Zealand's The Movement placed it at number 39 on a list of "The 101 Best Albums of the 90s",[32] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weezer_%28The_Blue_Album%29#cite_no te-31) and Visions of Germany ranked it number 32 on a list of "The Most Important Albums of the 90s."[33] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weezer_%28The_Blue_Album%29#cite_no te-32)
Reviews of the deluxe edition of the album have also been positive. In 2004, Popmatters (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popmatters) gave the album a very positive review and saying "I’d go so far to declare the 'Blue Album' one of the greatest records of the last 20 years." [34] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weezer_%28The_Blue_Album%29#cite_no te-times-33) Blogcritics Magazine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blogcritics) gave the album an 10/10 and asserted "this is one of the most important debut albums of the last ten years."[35] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weezer_%28The_Blue_Album%29#cite_no te-34)


In short, bands influenced by the Blue Album: countless
bands influenced by mwY: far, far fewer.

I wish Weezer was more influence by the blue album...

[princesschad]

I wish Weezer was more influence by the blue album...

Haha yeah.

[fran.182]

Weezer. Especially for the last two records, which are pretty good imo.

Mewithoutyou are just ok for me...
I need to give them a real try though.

[SeanEBoy2686]

easy choice for me... weezer.

[Say Nothing]

Weezer easily

[Broclee]

From wikipedia:

In the years since its release, The Blue Album has risen in stature to become one of the most highly-regarded albums of the 1990s, appearing on many "Best-of" lists. In 2003, Rolling Stone named the album among the "500 Greatest Albums of All Time."[29] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weezer_%28The_Blue_Album%29#cite_no te-RS1234-28) In 2002, the readers of Rolling Stone ranked the album the 21st greatest of all time.[30] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weezer_%28The_Blue_Album%29#cite_no te-RS90s-29) Blender (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blender_%28magazine%29)[31] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weezer_%28The_Blue_Album%29#cite_no te-Blender-30) named the Blue Album among the "500 CDs You Must Own", calling the album "Absolute geek-rock, out and proud." Non-U.S. publications have acclaimed the album as well: New Zealand's The Movement placed it at number 39 on a list of "The 101 Best Albums of the 90s",[32] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weezer_%28The_Blue_Album%29#cite_no te-31) and Visions of Germany ranked it number 32 on a list of "The Most Important Albums of the 90s."[33] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weezer_%28The_Blue_Album%29#cite_no te-32)
Reviews of the deluxe edition of the album have also been positive. In 2004, Popmatters (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popmatters) gave the album a very positive review and saying "I’d go so far to declare the 'Blue Album' one of the greatest records of the last 20 years." [34] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weezer_%28The_Blue_Album%29#cite_no te-times-33) Blogcritics Magazine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blogcritics) gave the album an 10/10 and asserted "this is one of the most important debut albums of the last ten years."[35] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weezer_%28The_Blue_Album%29#cite_no te-34)


In short, bands influenced by the Blue Album: countless
bands influenced by mwY: far, far fewer.

I like Weezer and all, but you didn't really prove that. Blue album is amazing, but to discredit mewithoutYou is kinda silly.

[Thexhorde]

This was probably the toughest one for me. I love both those bands but i ended going with mwy. i thought it would be closer than it is

[PenThrive]

Weezer have fallen off my radar with the Red Album. mwY ftw based on style and lyrics.

[princesschad]

I like Weezer and all, but you didn't really prove that. Blue album is amazing, but to discredit mewithoutYou is kinda silly.

How don't all of those stats prove something?

[JordanBuell]

weezer? nah dude. mwY

[npmshah]

mewithoutYou
i like the bands about the same... but mewithoutyou is so intricate in their music and Aaron Weiss is a BRILLIANT singer/lyricist

[Daniel Thompson]

i enjoy mewithoutyou a lot more.

[ascitiesburn101]

Weezer, hands down.

[cscwell107]

I could never get into MWY even though everyone has said that they are amazing. Im going with Weezer.

[altemose09]

=w=

[Cheesus]

"Imma do the things that i wanna do. I ain't got a thing to prove to you. I'll eat my candy with the pork and beans."


/infinite facepalm

[ShadowAmI]

"Imma do the things that i wanna do. I ain't got a thing to prove to you. I'll eat my candy with the pork and beans."


/infinite facepalm

What more can you say?

[lonelysuperstar]

weezer are an ok band but mwy win this hands down for me.

[Poe-tryGirl]

mewithoutYou

[Bruised26]

mwY. even though Weezer is winning by almost 200

[Galedeep]

Never liked Weezer, and mewithoutYou blows me away every time I listen to them.

[TeppeiKensrue]

mwY !! come on so sad they're going to be gone first round

[vaguestcargo]

From wikipedia:



In short, bands influenced by the Blue Album: countless
bands influenced by mwY: far, far fewer.

So influence determines a band's greatness?

If I painted a fantastic work of art and hung it in a gallery, i would affect/influence a good amount of people. But if I sat on an overpass shitting on the heads of everyone who walked by, I would affect/influence a SIGNIFICANTLY larger group.

Influence = marketability.
Marketability =/= talent/greatness ... if it did, Kelly Clarkson, Metro Station and Paramore would be the greatest bands alive.


Oh, voted wmY. No competition. Anyone who votes differently has never actually listened to them.

[foisol]

Weezer of course

[dpatrickguy]

MWY was awful when i saw them open for Brand New. Sooo bad. But i like their lyrics

[princesschad]

So influence determines a band's greatness?

If I painted a fantastic work of art and hung it in a gallery, i would affect/influence a good amount of people. But if I sat on an overpass shitting on the heads of everyone who walked by, I would affect/influence a SIGNIFICANTLY larger group.

Influence = marketability.
Marketability =/= talent/greatness ... if it did, Kelly Clarkson, Metro Station and Paramore would be the greatest bands alive.


Oh, voted wmY. No competition. Anyone who votes differently has never actually listened to them.

First of all, I have listened to mwY, and I saw them live with Brand New last week. I still prefer Weezer by a mile.

Influence hardly equals marketability. Some of the most influential bands have been commercial busts. My Bloody Valentine nearly went bankrupt recording Loveless and have only sold around 250,000 copies of it in 18 years but that album is considered one of the greatest and most influential of the genre.

And yes, influence is a part of a band's greatness. Why wouldn't it be? I respect artists like Radiohead more because of how much they have influenced the music scene.

[ijbet59]

WEEZER>mwY

[TalkShowsOnMute]

I went with Weezer but didn't mean to...

[Broclee]

How don't all of those stats prove something?

You just copy-pasted from their Wikipedia page about the praise the Blue Album got. You didn't give any indication that you had an opinion that you formulated yourself, and you're implying that a record that was highly praised was, for that reason, highly influential on "countless" bands. I could copy-paste the professional review links from mewithoutYou's Brother, Sister Wikipedia page, but what would that prove? It was a highly praised album as well, getting a 90% from this website, but that doesn't mean it any more or any less influential than the Blue Album. The Blue Album also had the advantage of being a pop album released on Geffen records, with wide distrubtion and mainstream attention. mewithoutYou are not "pop" music, per say, and all of their albums have been released on Tooth and Nail. What mewithoutYou have done in their careers and what Weezer did with the Blue Album aren't comparable, no, because they're in two completely different realms. If you ask me, mewithoutYou have been tearing down borders in terms of what Christian rock can be their entire careers, something that's no easy feat in a music scene populated by "praise" bands that all sound the same and Christian metal groups that ALSO all sound the same. Just because you don't like mewithoutYou doesn't mean you can undermine their achievements.

[Anton Djamoos]

You just copy-pasted from their Wikipedia page about the praise the Blue Album got. You didn't give any indication that you had an opinion that you formulated yourself, and you're implying that a record that was highly praised was, for that reason, highly influential on "countless" bands. I could copy-paste the professional review links from mewithoutYou's Brother, Sister Wikipedia page, but what would that prove? It was a highly praised album as well, getting a 90% from this website, but that doesn't mean it any more or any less influential than the Blue Album. The Blue Album also had the advantage of being a pop album released on Geffen records, with wide distrubtion and mainstream attention. mewithoutYou are not "pop" music, per say, and all of their albums have been released on Tooth and Nail. What mewithoutYou have done in their careers and what Weezer did with the Blue Album aren't comparable, no, because they're in two completely different realms. If you ask me, mewithoutYou have been tearing down borders in terms of what Christian rock can be their entire careers, something that's no easy feat in a music scene populated by "praise" bands that all sound the same and Christian metal groups that ALSO all sound the same. Just because you don't like mewithoutYou doesn't mean you can undermine their achievements.
Fortunately, this whole poll is to figure out which band is your favorite, not which one is more influential, so this arguing is mostly irrelevant.

[Broclee]

Fortunately, this whole poll is to figure out which band is your favorite, not which one is more influential, so this arguing is mostly irrelevant.

True, and I got really carried away in a rant there. I guess I just got irked with an opinion statement. All apologies.

[Anton Djamoos]

True, and I got really carried away in a rant there. I guess I just got irked with an opinion statement. All apologies.
No need to apologize. I'm glad to see this kind of discussion and you raised a ton of valid points.

[princesschad]

You just copy-pasted from their Wikipedia page about the praise the Blue Album got. You didn't give any indication that you had an opinion that you formulated yourself, and you're implying that a record that was highly praised was, for that reason, highly influential on "countless" bands. I could copy-paste the professional review links from mewithoutYou's Brother, Sister Wikipedia page, but what would that prove? It was a highly praised album as well, getting a 90% from this website, but that doesn't mean it any more or any less influential than the Blue Album. The Blue Album also had the advantage of being a pop album released on Geffen records, with wide distrubtion and mainstream attention. mewithoutYou are not "pop" music, per say, and all of their albums have been released on Tooth and Nail. What mewithoutYou have done in their careers and what Weezer did with the Blue Album aren't comparable, no, because they're in two completely different realms. If you ask me, mewithoutYou have been tearing down borders in terms of what Christian rock can be their entire careers, something that's no easy feat in a music scene populated by "praise" bands that all sound the same and Christian metal groups that ALSO all sound the same. Just because you don't like mewithoutYou doesn't mean you can undermine their achievements.

You say they cannot be compared, but considering that they are facing each other in this poll, they have to be. The simple fact is that Weezer is a far superior band with a larger fanbase, a career spanning two decades, and a string of solid releases. When mewithoutYou are mentioned as one of the best bands of this decade from various sources, then we can have a debate.

[hailthewarrior]

me. without. fucking. You.

[Jake Denning]

Weezer; But only by the tiniest amount.

[ericsounds41]

Weezer for sure.

[zubinmoosa]

This is really sad that mwY is going to go in the first round. A seeded format would've been better, then ADTR wouldn't have faced 30STM in the first round, but oh well.

[Cheesus]

What more can you say?

There's nothing more to be said, those lyrics speak more words than I ever could.

I am sorry but I don't care if =w= was voted #1 band of the century, any group that writes lyrics like that gets an F-

[Anton Djamoos]

This is really sad that mwY is going to go in the first round. A seeded format would've been better, then ADTR wouldn't have faced 30STM in the first round, but oh well.
How do you seed these bands? No way. If we seeded, then we wouldn't need this, as #1 would be #1.

[beth danger]

Weezer, based solely on the things they did more than 10 years ago

[crimesides]

Unfortunately, because of how subjective the title of "better band" is, there's always gonna be people who are pissed off and think tournaments like this aren't really fair. I agree that Weezer vs. mwY isn't quite an even matchup, but f*ck, how about just letting it go and having a little fun with this?

That being said, I voted for mewithoutYou. I've been sick of Weezer for years.

[zubinmoosa]

How do you seed these bands? No way. If we seeded, then we wouldn't need this, as #1 would be #1.
Maybe they could be used through last.fm plays in the AP group? It doesn't have to be an exact calculation, but at least so that, for example, Brand New doesn't face Fall Out Boy in the second round or something like that. Make no mistake, I think this idea and the application is great, but I don't think some of the matchups have worked perfectly.

[Zachals]

weezer might have done more and might be more popular --- but mwY is just so unique and powerful. anyone who really listens to mwY would vote for them against over 90% of all other bands.

[Anton Djamoos]

Maybe they could be used through last.fm plays in the AP group? It doesn't have to be an exact calculation, but at least so that, for example, Brand New doesn't face Fall Out Boy in the second round or something like that. Make no mistake, I think this idea and the application is great, but I don't think some of the matchups have worked perfectly.
Sure they have. In the end, we're trying to find AP.net's favorite band. No matter what, if they're the favorite band, they should win every single round. No second, third place.

[Anton Djamoos]

Unfortunately, because of how subjective the title of "better band" is, there's always gonna be people who are pissed off and think tournaments like this aren't really fair. I agree that Weezer vs. mwY isn't quite an even matchup, but f*ck, how about just letting it go and having a little fun with this?

That being said, I voted for mewithoutYou. I've been sick of Weezer for years.
Favorite =/= Better. I never once said better because of the caveat it holds. Favorite is simply what band you like to listen to more. It doesn't rely on musicianship, lyricism, or anything like that...simply what you like more.

[seraph1214]

Weezer. The Blue Album is definitely one of my favorites of all time.

[concealer611]

Weezer for sure, Blue and Pinkerton alone could win this, but throw in Red and Maladroit and it's no competition anymore

Agree completely with above, Blue Album and Pinkerton trump anything ever done by meWithoutYou.

[mutualaddiction]

mewithoutYou, hands down. But since they have a much smaller fanbase and very little pop-appeal I understand how they would lose this. Shame.

Its funny how the only two Weezer albums anyone ever has anything good to say about are over 10 years old, everything else gets thoroughly shit upon by the majority of this website. Yet mewithoutYou has yet to release a bad album.

[crimesides]

Favorite =/= Better. I never once said better because of the caveat it holds. Favorite is simply what band you like to listen to more. It doesn't rely on musicianship, lyricism, or anything like that...simply what you like more.

I dunno if you understood that I was trying to defend you against everyone who's trying to say *whine whine whine* this isn't fair, you matched them up poorly *whine whine whine*. But I guess you're handling it so touche.

[xxhard_to_sayxx]

mwY

[ExplodingStereo]

Weezer. Obvious choice for me.

[ExplodingStereo]

Its funny how the only two Weezer albums anyone ever has anything good to say about are over 10 years old, everything else gets thoroughly shit upon by the majority of this website. Yet mewithoutYou has yet to release a bad album.

Sure, but Weezer records have widely influenced most of the better pop-punk/emo bands of today. And depends on who you ask when it comes to favorite Weezer records. I personally believe the only time they've screwed up is on Red and somewhat on Maladroit. Green's a decent record and Make Believe gets far too much criticism. Most people believe Weezer hasn't been good since Blue and Pink because of record sales and how they weren't as good after Pinkerton was made.

[yoyostring]

i went with Weezer even though Mewithoutyou is effin awesome.

[TheHoldSteady]

I like some things from Weezer, but mwY got my vote.

[screamoutmyname]

weezer, unless you're dumb

[mutualaddiction]

Sure, but Weezer records have widely influenced most of the better pop-punk/emo bands of today. And depends on who you ask when it comes to favorite Weezer records. I personally believe the only time they've screwed up is on Red and somewhat on Maladroit. Green's a decent record and Make Believe gets far too much criticism. Most people believe Weezer hasn't been good since Blue and Pink because of record sales and how they weren't as good after Pinkerton was made.

I agree that their later material deserves more credit than it is given, but even so, when compared to blue or pinkerton they just don't stand a chance.


I think Rivers Coumo and Aaron Weiss could have some very interesting theological conversations.

[Shrillex]

MewithoutYou.

[samsara]

Weezer they have had more of an influence.

[Broclee]

You say they cannot be compared, but considering that they are facing each other in this poll, they have to be. The simple fact is that Weezer is a far superior band with a larger fanbase, a career spanning two decades, and a string of solid releases. When mewithoutYou are mentioned as one of the best bands of this decade from various sources, then we can have a debate.

Now the time that they've been around comes into play. If mewithoutYou were as old as Weezer and had as many releases, I think it would be a completely different comparison. Weezer has a larger fanbase because of their pop appeal and the sheer amount of time they've been around, not to mention their great albums. I'm not sure how many albums counts as a "string," but mewithoutYou have released three amazing albums back to back. Weezer was named one of the best bands of the 90's in the 2000's, but mewithoutYou have only been around since 2001. I think there are people would argue that mewithoutYou are one of the most innovative and creative bands of the 2000's right now, though. I guess we'll just have to wait until 2013 or something to see.

[more heart]

Come on, Weezer all the way...

[tinfoil-hearts]

Been into weezer for a long time, so I voted them.

[White Noise]

Never liked Weezer, and mwY is one of my favs.

[Moral_Orel]

mwY
I like your voting style sir.

[Cuddleworthy]

a--b life > better lyrically and musically than anything weezer has and ever will do

[FireInTheSky]

this is heartbreaking.

[zubinmoosa]

a--b life > better lyrically and musically than anything weezer has and ever will do
agreed

[Mxpx187]

MeWithoutYou!!! How are they losing?:hitself:

[littlebeav]

Hate me cause I don't give a shit, but fuck Weezer.

[bouttogetfancy]

MeWithoutYou!!! How are they losing?:hitself:
it is ap.net and it is weezer, not too hard to figure out.

[ship of fools]

disappointing.

[punk89]

Weezer is enjoyable to listen to, but mewithoutYou has much more depth to it.

[MyNameIsRoss]

Weezer, even though I don't like their more recent records.

[IceAge/HeatWave]

I'm gonna be a rockstar and you are gonna bare with me

[hudson]

me without you is creepy, weezer is timeless. going with rivers.

[Broclee]

me without you is creepy, weezer is timeless. going with rivers.

...Creepy?
:-|

[ShadowAmI]

This is shameful.

[hydraulicheart]

I think it's shitty a band with substance got beat out by a band with...what? Fame?

[phoenixinflames]

Pinkerton.

[WasteofPaint31]

sorry for Mewithoutyou

Weezer wins my vote

[ThisIsNotDan]

Weez

[lonelysuperstar]

a--b life > better lyrically and musically than anything weezer has and ever will do
i second this. it's so sad that mewithoutyou lost this poll.

[RAMROD85]

thank fucking god weezer won this. Blue is epic.

[iheartmusic043]

If weezer didn't win i would have been kinda depressed.

[Theseventhson]

What the fuck happened here? This isn't right.

[atticusfinch]

I think it's shitty a band with substance got beat out by a band with...what? Fame?

totally totally agree.

[RAMROD85]

how can anyone deny that weezer's Blue isn't worth this win? I'm being serious... how?

[Theseventhson]

how can anyone deny that weezer's Blue isn't worth this win? I'm being serious... how?
By listening to any song ever written by mwY

[ShadowAmI]

how can anyone deny that weezer's Blue isn't worth this win? I'm being serious... how?

The Blue album is classic, and I'm a big fan of Pinkerton. They've also had some bad albums, but Weezer is classic, and I get why they won.

It all comes down to what you value in music, and what music moves you the most. For me, that's mwY, but I get why Weezer won. Especially on this site, where Blink 182 is beating Radiohead.

[RAMROD85]

The Blue album is classic, and I'm a big fan of Pinkerton. They've also had some bad albums, but Weezer is classic, and I get why they won.

It all comes down to what you value in music, and what music moves you the most. For me, that's mwY, but I get why Weezer won. Especially on this site, where Blink 182 is beating Radiohead.
you're the second person to say blink is beating radiohead... where is that poll??? is there a poll where blink is against radiohead????

[ShadowAmI]

you're the second person to say blink is beating radiohead... where is that poll??? is there a poll where blink is against radiohead????

http://www.absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=958002

[bard]

a--b life > better lyrically and musically than anything weezer has and ever will do

this is heartbreaking.
this is a travesty. weezer has had 3 solid albums, but 1 crappy albums, and 2 albums that are okay....

[Cuddleworthy]

this is a travesty. weezer has had 3 solid albums, but 1 crappy albums, and 2 albums that are okay....

what i said remains true

[bard]

just found this thread again by mistake.

this was horrible.