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Rohan Kohli
11/03/05, 12:57 PM
What band (or bands) in our scene, if any, do you think we will be talking about 20 years down the road from now? Does our generation have a Beatles? A Led Zeppelin? Which recently released album(s) (within the past 10 years or so) do you think will transcend time? Discuss! And as always, explain yourself; give us lots to talk about. No one wants just a band and an album name--they want to read why! Have fun.

burntheclouds
11/03/05, 12:58 PM
Copeland

& Led Zepplin

EnderDove
11/03/05, 12:58 PM
Thrice.

Also, Bright Eyes which is a shame though because Conor will continue to put out repetiative albums therefore always being fresh in peoples minds.

Rohan Kohli
11/03/05, 12:59 PM
Copeland

& Led Zepplin

Explain yo'self! I gotta go to class for a few hours now, but please do better than this guy...make me happy when I get back online tonight and read through the thread.

The Revisionist
11/03/05, 12:59 PM
Honestly, probably not.

Melie
11/03/05, 12:59 PM
i think it's just going to be different for everyone. there isn't going to be a single band that will stand out because there are so many around now. back with the beatles, there were some, but it was a new thing.
but personally, elliott smith will live forever for me.

romantic rights
11/03/05, 01:01 PM
the get up kids will never die as long as im still alive.

DroppedUrPocket
11/03/05, 01:02 PM
In a few albums, Say Anything.

The Revisionist
11/03/05, 01:03 PM
I mean, there is a ton of good music out now, but what is there that is popular in and around our group of kids that is truly groundbreaking and original and like nothing like we have ever heard before? Absolutely nothing comes to mind.

fallingapart101
11/03/05, 01:03 PM
Personally I think none. The only bands that will be talked about will be Green Day-American Idiot because the whole opera thing and I would like to say Foo Fighters-In Your Honor but I don't think everyone has the same views about it. Maybe Early November's new one if they get bigger and if this c.d. is good as it is hyped up to be.

COG
11/03/05, 01:03 PM
I think Thrice will be remembered years from now if they continue to evolve as a band in the way they have. I think their next album will likely be what they are remembered for, based on the way they have progressed over their past albums. Thursday will likely be remembered by some people, more of a majority will likely remember someone like Jimmy Eat World because they are a popular band but still have substance behind what they are doing.
I also think that Sunny Day Real Estate has started gaining more credit in the past few years, and that that will continue, and they will get the credit they deserve.

last light
11/03/05, 01:03 PM
thrice i think.

xearlynovemberx
11/03/05, 01:03 PM
maybe just maybe greenday i think they can go down as one of rocks biggest bands ever and will be influental on many bands that are up and coming in a years to come they have put out great album by album i dont think there is one greenday cds that let me down i think alot of kids will wind up listening to greenday that was pretty much an odd rant but i think greenday yeah.

Jason Tate
11/03/05, 01:04 PM
Jimmy Eat World seems to be a band that will always be listenable.

EnderDove
11/03/05, 01:04 PM
In a few albums, Say Anything.

While I disagree with that, one of the main reasons is that its hard to say in a couple of albums. We have no way of telling how the albums will play out down the road if more will be released at all. It may sound crazy but you have to look at it that way.

thecovertcareer
11/03/05, 01:04 PM
Hawthorne Heights


*Crickets*

Brownpants06
11/03/05, 01:05 PM
Blink 182 - hell, its already been almost 10 years since their first release. But other than that, probably not.

PaintMeBlue
11/03/05, 01:05 PM
i think that people will remember Brand New. how can you forget the change between Your Favorite Weapon and Deja Entendu? both are outstanding albums, and i still listen to both a lot. i hope that their new album will really give them staying power for 20 years from now.

another band i think might make it a long time is The Receiving End Of Sirens. Between the Heart and the Synapse is absolutely amazing, and if they come out with a couple more albums the caliber of that...watch out.

i'm probably completely wrong though...haha

neo506
11/03/05, 01:05 PM
Mars Volta is pretty darn original, but they won't stand the test of time. Theyre too "out there" for most mainstream consumers.

I see Coldplay (like em or not) as marking our generation

Panda
11/03/05, 01:05 PM
Coldplay maybe. Thats it. There are better bands then CP but there commercial and good. They might last. Nirvana is the last for sure band that will last forever.

gil_ag
11/03/05, 01:05 PM
Well a band that has been in the music more than 14 years and is in its "Top" right now is Greenday. By top I mean sales and stuff like that. They've reached an international level they didn't have and reached a great audience. And they are still good. I like the old stuff more, but I can still listen to them. So i believe they could still play 5-7 more years and leave a nice history.

EnderDove
11/03/05, 01:05 PM
Jimmy Eat World seems to be a band that will always be listenable.

Listenable, yes. But will there be one of the stand out bands of this era? I think they possibly could but right now I dont think so.

Ashe
11/03/05, 01:05 PM
Thrice.

Also, Bright Eyes which is a shame though because Conor will continue to put out repetiative albums therefore always being fresh in peoples minds. This is going to sound like im trying to be mean but I swear I am not. I just really want to know what about Thrice makes you think they are our generations Beatles and will be talked about for 20 years. I just cant fathom people buying Thrice anthology sets a few decades down the road...

I personally am going to nominate Green Day as a band that will stick around. Hell, theyve been around for a while as is, and with the recent success that American Idiot has gotten, I think its fair to say that they are the closest thing our generation has to a Led Zepplin.

darthrupp83
11/03/05, 01:06 PM
weezer-the blue album will be one for sure that will be remembered and pinkerton will become accepted as it already has by rolling stone as a classic album.
Bright Eyes may be remembered but only within the community. Not like the beatles are, but is that possible?
Coldplay, unfortunately
Radiohead-too good/innovative to not be remembered
TGUK- as an indie thing, kinda like fugazi are remembered


Some others have a chance if they put out soem more good albums- the arcade fire, damien rice, the mars volta (could be anyways), STD (if next album is good enough)

ForeverInADay
11/03/05, 01:06 PM
I'd say Bright Eyes although I don't like them all too much

LiquidHeaven
11/03/05, 01:06 PM
Green Day it looks will probably go down as a great band of our time.

U2 is going to be there because they already are.

I think Bright Eyes could possibly be as popular as Springsteen or Dylan. The guys got the best song writing out there. His sound and style trancends time, that's why it will last.

There may be other bands that will adapt the way Green Day has... 2 years ago nobody would have said they'd make this list but look at where they are at today. The biggest band in the world it seems.

I really hope Bright Eyes is the biggest band from our time. I like his style the best.

And Green Day sucks.

Haha.

Oh and Glassjaw will always be my favorite band from this time period. So I'll vote for them just to put the name out there :)

DroppedUrPocket
11/03/05, 01:07 PM
While I disagree with that, one of the main reasons is that its hard to say in a couple of albums. We have no way of telling how the albums will play out down the road if more will be released at all. It may sound crazy but you have to look at it that way.

I'm just looking at how I feel about Max more than anything. He wrote some amazing songs when he was 17/18 and it only got better over the years. At the level of progression Max is going at, I think he will be something great. Granted there's many things that could factor into his/their future, I have faith in him.

Johnny Confirm
11/03/05, 01:07 PM
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Tyler Revolution
11/03/05, 01:07 PM
Blink 182, Greenday, Oasis, Coldplay, Weezer.

Rufio21
11/03/05, 01:08 PM
In a few albums, Say Anything.

ahhaha no, they are mediocre at best

last light
11/03/05, 01:08 PM
This is going to sound like im trying to be mean but I swear I am not. I just really want to know what about Thrice makes you think they are our generations Beatles and will be talked about for 20 years. I just cant fathom people buying Thrice anthology sets a few decades down the road...

I personally am going to nominate Green Day as a band that will stick around. Hell, theyve been around for a while as is, and with the recent success that American Idiot has gotten, I think its fair to say that they are the closest thing our generation has to a Led Zepplin.
because the question was from this "scene". what other bands in this scene do you think youll be talking about 20 years from now? certainly not hawthorne heights, senses fail and shit liek that, so thrice gets the nod.

Melie
11/03/05, 01:08 PM
none of the bands that get mentioned on this site will be remembered 5 yrs. from now, let alone 20. except maybe green day, but only 'cause they did a good job of selling whatever it is they do.
wow, that came off as really insulting. the point of this site is to introduce you to new music, not just to talk about bands that are already well known.

DroppedUrPocket
11/03/05, 01:09 PM
ahhaha no, they are mediocre at best

Disagreed.

The Dill
11/03/05, 01:09 PM
I've maintained that Coldplay is the next U2.

ben pequeno
11/03/05, 01:09 PM
death cab for cutie. i first heard 'all is full of love' (bjork cover) and fell in love with ben's voice. soon after, i began listening to their cd's and started to appreciate music more.

Rufio21
11/03/05, 01:09 PM
none of the bands that get mentioned on this site will be remembered 5 yrs. from now, let alone 20. except maybe green day, but only 'cause they did a good job of selling whatever it is they do.

yeah.. this kid knows whats up... I would put Blink in that category too..

ATDIdakota
11/03/05, 01:09 PM
Thrice will be our Beatles. After seeing them live the last time and the new cd, how it's so much different and easy listening and spectacular. I don't think the mainstream will ever accept them though. Fall Out Boy has a chance but I believe they will soon die out. Also, bands like the Beatles were releasing 2 albums a year at times and atleast 1 cd a year for 10 years at a time. No band of our era will be able to do that. Also, bands like the Beatles changed music, until there is another band that changes music, no band will be remembered for what they did. Theres too many genres of music as well, rap, country, metal, screamo, alternative, punk...this is the most difficult question to ask ourselves.

ImWorthDating
11/03/05, 01:10 PM
as much as it's easy and trendy to dismiss 'metalcore', norma jean, new and old has perfected that genre and continues to blaze it's trail. i would say poison the well did it first and best, but they've gone to shit, so screw them. none the less. norma jean.

Fullcollapse3k
11/03/05, 01:10 PM
What band (or bands) in our scene, if any, do you think we will be talking about 20 years down the road from now? Does our generation have a Beatles? A Led Zeppelin? Which recently released album(s) (within the past 10 years or so) do you think will transcend time? Discuss! And as always, explain yourself; give us lots to talk about. No one wants just a band and an album name--they want to read why! Have fun.

The only bands I could think we might be talking about 20 years from now are Death Cab For Cutie or Jimmy Eat World.

And we do not have a Beatles or Zeppelin in this generation.

snowtires
11/03/05, 01:10 PM
short answer: no. long answer: noooooooooooooooooo

Tyler Revolution
11/03/05, 01:11 PM
Blink 182 - hell, its already been almost 10 years since their first release. But other than that, probably not.
It's been more than 10 years.

as much as it's easy and trendy to dismiss 'metalcore', norma jean, new and old has perfected that genre and continues to blaze it's trail. i would say poison the well did it first and best, but they've gone to shit, so screw them. none the less. norma jean.
Although I like Norma Jean, there is no way in hell people are going to talk about them 20 years from now.

DroppedUrPocket
11/03/05, 01:11 PM
short answer: no. long answer: noooooooooooooooooo
Clever.

Rufio21
11/03/05, 01:11 PM
Disagreed.

but how could you even compare then to bands like Zepplin, Floyd, and Queen.

Anton Djamoos
11/03/05, 01:11 PM
At the Drive-In. They were so original when they came out and were such a breath of fresh air in a world dominated by Backstreet Boys and Limp Bizkits. Labeled as the next Nirvana, the band broke up right before reaching mainstream acceptance and icon status, thus they became cult icons. I think that they will be remembered as a band that had the potential if they stayed together and their legacy will be remembered for a long time.

If Thursday can make another Full Collapse, I would also say them. Green Day is a given. Blink is a possibility.

Panda
11/03/05, 01:12 PM
Blink 182, Greenday, Oasis, Coldplay, Weezer.

This is not our genaration of bands. Thats the last genaration of bands. We have a bunch of shitty pop punk bands

Rufio21
11/03/05, 01:12 PM
Although I like Norma Jean, there is no way in hell people are going to talk about them 20 years from now.

atleast now people are thinking.. haha norma jean...

Tyler Revolution
11/03/05, 01:12 PM
Maybe, At the Drive-In. Maybe not though.

gil_ag
11/03/05, 01:12 PM
Disagreed.

diddo, Say Anything just can't be mediocre even if they tried to XD

last light
11/03/05, 01:12 PM
anyone who is saying "none of the band will be around in 5 years" that is ridiculous. most of these bands have been putting out albums since the late 90's a lot before, why would they dissapear in the next 5 years?

j0shsm1th
11/03/05, 01:12 PM
coldplay for sure, in 20 years i bet my son will be buying coldplay cds and love them just like my dad did with me and zeppelin.

YearsGoneBy
11/03/05, 01:13 PM
The only bands I could think we might be talking about 20 years from now are Death Cab For Cutie or Jimmy Eat World.

And we do not have a Beatles or Zeppelin in this generation. i completely agree

madcappunk
11/03/05, 01:13 PM
emphatically no. green day maaayyybe. but no.

Goodbye Forever
11/03/05, 01:13 PM
I'm really suprised not a single person has mentioned Radiohead so far.

lostntheseethru
11/03/05, 01:13 PM
my friend and i were discussing this the other day. we were talking about what bands we want to be dragging our kids to go see with us like our parents did to us.

my parents dragged me to many reo speedwagon shows so while thats not as cool as say led zepplin and the beatles but you get my point....

either way the two we came up with who we would WANT to be doing that with (i say want cuz its hard to say if part of this will happen or what not) but we decided we would want to be doing that with blink 182 and green day.

i mean just besides the fact that they broke every barrier put in front of them for music of our time, they are just the ultimate classics for "our music" so i guess that kind of applies here too.

especially since you really cant top the classics we think of now...its hard they were just that great.

last light
11/03/05, 01:13 PM
but how could you even compare then to bands like Zepplin, Floyd, and Queen.
hes not comparing them, hes saying they will be a band talked about from THIS scene in 20 years. this scene isnt mainstream, any one of these bands could still be talked about down the road.

Rufio21
11/03/05, 01:13 PM
Maybe, At the Drive-In. Maybe not though.

I dont think anyone here has seen them live so dont know if I would put them in this category. I really should have gone when they opened for RAGE. That was their last tour, bummmer.

KnoWs My NaMe
11/03/05, 01:13 PM
If your asking me..i'd say saves the day and say anything...i think saves the day is one of the most consistent bands out here, though a lot of people hated in reverie..i feel it was a classic, thought provoking album thats was harshly misunderstood just becuase their sound changed..say anything put out easily the best actual debut albums ive ever heard, i think max is one of the better song writingers the scene has come across and if he progresses the way he has, we'll be hearing his name for many years

maybe even throw brand new in there just because i think they are the biggest name out here on this website and well i feel their next album will be absolutely amazing...

Tyler Revolution
11/03/05, 01:14 PM
This is not our genaration of bands. Thats the last genaration of bands. We have a bunch of shitty pop punk bands
I'd say they're in our generation.

DroppedUrPocket
11/03/05, 01:14 PM
but how could you even compare then to bands like Zepplin, Floyd, and Queen.

I wasn't.

Though, I do think when they release a few major label efforts, they will come out with someone amazing that will resonate with people of all ages, colors, and creeds. They have a lot of potential, in my opinion, judging by what Max has already done.

Bruycker
11/03/05, 01:14 PM
i really don't know , maybe some bands their first album is worthless and the next is great so mm , i quess thrice , because i know they want to bring something new , and their were some bands in the earlier years who weren't popular at all and came at daylight 10 years later, and i agree with the guy who said copeland , because he has such a good voice in motion wasn't bad but he can be at the top with his voice i'm sure of that ...

tambo41187
11/03/05, 01:14 PM
While i would like to say that Saves The Day - Through Being Cool would be always thought of as a landmark record (in their genre), i dont think they have enough popularity to ever achieve beatles or led zeppelin status. In our scene i would find it hard to come up with a more influential band.

In this scene today i think there is just to much similarity and parity to realy have band rise above the genre. but if i had to pick i would say either Say Anything if Max can stay healthy.

Also, Wilco, although not maybe in our scence, i see them as one of the most influential bands of out time.

Hilikus
11/03/05, 01:14 PM
First off I wanna give a big fat NO to Thrice.

As for bands that will be rememeber, Bright Eyes is the first that comes to mind.

I am very surprised that no one has mentioned Cursive. What the hell people?

Greenday will stand the test of time, although i despise them. As will Blink 182, although i despise them.

I could see Coldplay lasting a long time.

Radiohead will live forever.

Incubus will live forever.

EnderDove
11/03/05, 01:15 PM
This is going to sound like im trying to be mean but I swear I am not. I just really want to know what about Thrice makes you think they are our generations Beatles and will be talked about for 20 years. I just cant fathom people buying Thrice anthology sets a few decades down the road...

I personally am going to nominate Green Day as a band that will stick around. Hell, theyve been around for a while as is, and with the recent success that American Idiot has gotten, I think its fair to say that they are the closest thing our generation has to a Led Zepplin.

Its not mean, you just want a reason and I will try and give you one.

If you look at their last three albums, Illusion Of Safetey, The Artist In The Ambulance and Vheissu. When each one came out there was a huge following around it and to myself at least none of the three have been any kid of disappointment. All three have brought something new to the table and none have seemed like the band is making the same record over again. Name a band that has had three albums in a row with that same feeling as Thrice, there are some but not too many.

For them to have a huge impact and to withstand time though they will need a couple more albums and I feel as time goes on you will see more time between album releases, which is basically the band just taking their time again and coming up with new and original things.

Obviously they wont be this era's Beatles, nobody will. That was a music movement, not just a band that stood out and outlasted.

last light
11/03/05, 01:15 PM
I dont think anyone here has seen them live so dont know if I would put them in this category. I really should have gone when they opened for RAGE. That was their last tour, bummmer.ive seen at the drive in live.

Fullcollapse3k
11/03/05, 01:15 PM
At The Drive-In were right on the brink of getting to the point where they would have that incredible staying power, but where it stands right now, I would say no.

I think they're the best band of this generation, though.

KnoWs My NaMe
11/03/05, 01:15 PM
great question though rohan...something I've thought a lot about time to time

EnderDove
11/03/05, 01:15 PM
First off I wanna give a big fat NO to Thrice.

As for bands that will be rememeber, Bright Eyes is the first that comes to mind.

I am very surprised that no one has mentioned Cursive. What the hell people?

Greenday will stand the test of time, although i despise them. As will Blink 182, although i despise them.

I could see Coldplay lasting a long time.

Radiohead will live forever.

Incubus will live forever.

Cursive and Tim Kasher in general will never get the recognition that he or the entire band deserves, so I didnt bother mentioning them at all.

I dont see Coldplay due to the fact that their last two albums have sounded far too similar to me. It seems as of now their sound cant evolve and evolving is something you must do to stand the test of time.

j0shsm1th
11/03/05, 01:16 PM
I'm really suprised not a single person has mentioned Radiohead so far.
good point

Jonathan London
11/03/05, 01:16 PM
The Mr. T Experience. Oh wait. No one is talking about them now. Fucking crazy. What is wrong with people! They have changed their song writing on every album since they formed in 1986! Music doesn't have to be so deep and morose all the time! It can be fun too! And MTX is definitely fun! I WISH people would talk about this band...

gil_ag
11/03/05, 01:17 PM
I'm really suprised not a single person has mentioned Radiohead so far.

yeah...slipped my mind i guess...when i read this post i was like "shit, how could i not seen em." it's true

Tyler Revolution
11/03/05, 01:17 PM
Cursive and Tim Kasher in general will never get the recognition that he or the entire band deserves, so I didnt bother mentioning them at all.

I dont see Coldplay due to the fact that their last two albums have sounded far too similar to me. It seems as of now their sound cant evolve and evolving is something you must do to stand the test of time.
Exactly what I was thinking.

ben pequeno
11/03/05, 01:17 PM
death cab for cutie. i first heard 'all is full of love' (bjork cover) and fell in love with ben's voice. soon after, i began listening to their cd's and started to appreciate music more.
i would like to add 'the decemberists' to that. i've said it many times before...colin meloy is a genius.

Panda
11/03/05, 01:17 PM
Radiohead will always get a mention when experimental rock is the subject. There not commercial enough to be up there with Beatles, Led Zep, Nirvana etc. BUT I bet FOB out last them all cause they are so damn good and original. lol

StartingLine182
11/03/05, 01:17 PM
Blink 182-They will be remembered because they were so influential to alot of peoples musical taste.
Death Cab For Cutie-If they keep putting out albums as good as "Plans" they will just keeping getting a bigger and bigger fanbase.
The Get Up Kids-I agree with those that said they will be the indie band for years to come.

Those are the 3 big ones, but some others I think..
The Ataris-I dont know if they will represent so much but they have influenced so many bands.
Ben Folds-He doesnt fit the "punk" genre but I could see him as someone still talked about in 20 years.

Johnny Confirm
11/03/05, 01:18 PM
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Rufio21
11/03/05, 01:18 PM
hes not comparing them, hes saying they will be a band talked about from THIS scene in 20 years. this scene isnt mainstream, any one of these bands could still be talked about down the road.

Were comparing bands like Zepplin who are still talked about 20 yrs later. I would consider this scene to be mainstream to be honest. OHh yeah ... is a real boy just got released by a major woah! Thrice- major, Green Day- major, FOB - major, NFG - major, CARTEL - major.. I could go on. None of these albums are classics like most of Floyds are. I just see ANY lasting power from "this" scene.

CrucifiedHeart
11/03/05, 01:18 PM
I dont know if Fugazi is considered our generation, but definitely Fugazi, I think they are the most punk band that ever existed. Their DIY and civil ethics really said so much in themselves.
Like Guy Picciotto (sp?) once said
"We've had 30 years of protest music, and no change", pointing out that obviously, we have all these bands, punk and otherwise preaching all this stuff but through out the years theres repetitive issues, really questioning the progress and/or credibility of what bands promote or sing about in their music. In other words, are they really making a difference, or is there a problem cause too many bands are preaching what they dont follow up on.
oh yeah, they write really good songs too. I


And then theres the Mars Volta, ive heard many comparisons of them to Led Zeppelin.
The influence is definitely there, but the Mars Volta are also most certainly their own band.
Like Zeppelin, who's commercial success came after a while they were a band,
I think that the Mars Volta will be more respected and appreciated years from now. At the same time, Frances the Mute has probably quadrupled their fanbase, and I thought it was their least accessible album.
Regardless, when you listen and watch the Mars Volta, its an experience, you just feel that these guys are playing like their lives depended on it and the improvs (that alot of people dont like) is the creation of the future songs and art right then and there, and you are a part of it.
Most people cant deny Mars Volta as a creative band, Ive come across many that will say that theyre too weird or they play too much pretentious self- indulgent music, which is fine, thats their opinion, but to me alot of it is as catchy, as it is dynamic and intense and weird and beautiful.

Tyler Revolution
11/03/05, 01:18 PM
Cursive and Tim Kasher in general will never get the recognition that he or the entire band deserves, so I didnt bother mentioning them at all.

I dont see Coldplay due to the fact that their last two albums have sounded far too similar to me. It seems as of now their sound cant evolve and evolving is something you must do to stand the test of time.
Coldplay will stick around.

WhatSayYou
11/03/05, 01:18 PM
Weezer will always be remembered. Say Anything also if they write two more amazing albums. To me ill always remember JimmyEatWorld. But to be honest probably none will be remembered by the world in 20 years.

Tyler Revolution
11/03/05, 01:19 PM
Blink 182-They will be remembered because they were so influential to alot of peoples musical taste.
Death Cab For Cutie-If they keep putting out albums as good as "Plans" they will just keeping getting a bigger and bigger fanbase.
The Get Up Kids-I agree with those that said they will be the indie band for years to come.

Those are the 3 big ones, but some others I think..
The Ataris-I dont know if they will represent so much but they have influenced so many bands.
Ben Folds-He doesnt fit the "punk" genre but I could see him as someone still talked about in 20 years.
Agreed with Ben Folds.

Fullcollapse3k
11/03/05, 01:19 PM
Coldplay will stick around.

They will, as will a lot of other bands, but he said 'scene' bands, didn't he? I don't define them as 'scene' at all.

kevinhagan
11/03/05, 01:19 PM
jimmy eat world was mentioned a few times. incubus within the past few posts. i agree ith both of those, they have large enough fanbases and consistently strong records that people will rediscover them for years. i also want to include maybe not soco, but whatever andrew mcmahon does. everything hes written that i have is amazing, and i think he is only going to continue to release strong material after enduring the last year or so. the jack's cd is so genuine, and that was before all that. i cant wait to hear new stuff. so yea....jimmy, incubus, andrew mcmahon.

and someone mentioned glassjaw early on. man, i wish they got 5% of the cred they deserve. the best.

last light
11/03/05, 01:20 PM
Were comparing bands like Zepplin who are still talked about 20 yrs later. I would consider this scene to be mainstream to be honest. OHh yeah ... is a real boy just got released by a major woah! Thrice- major, Green Day- major, FOB - major, NFG - major, CARTEL - major.. I could go on. None of these albums are classics like most of Floyds are. I just see ANY lasting power from "this" scene.
just because they are on major labels does not make them mainstream...from this scene i definitely think you could be talking about thrice 20 years down, much like people still talk about social d, bad religion etc. will these bands ever be on the level as a zeppelin, or beatles? no, no other bands will.

Hilikus
11/03/05, 01:20 PM
i would like to add 'the decemberists' to that. i've said it many times before...colin meloy is a genius.
I agree with that.


Cursive will get bigger, i know it.

moonlights
11/03/05, 01:20 PM
Jimmy Eat World. They may not be doing anything new or original, but one quality they have as compared with most band is they just get better each album. most bands have a low point, go downhill at some point (sophomore slump kinda thing), and i think what gives a band a lot of longevity (besides the ability to stay together...) is that they don't hit that downhill slope until many many albums in.

also, i think Bright Eyes. He's already been putting out albums for, what, 12 years and is only gaining momentum with each album. the other thing is that he changes his sound significantly with each album, thus keeping things on the aforementioned uphill slope.

i think death cab for cutie has a great chance of sticking around in this scene as well should they find themselves more known with the general public.

at the drive-in, while obviously already broken up, i think will be a very influential band for many years to come in the 'underground' scene....

[edit] RADIOHEAD. how did i forget that. radiohead definitely has promise, and they've already been influential to many bands and probably will continue to be.

EnderDove
11/03/05, 01:20 PM
Coldplay will stick around.

They may stick around but I dont think they can ever honestly be considered a great band of this generation unless their sound evolves and they take a step forward. I enjoy Coldplay very much, but until they experiment and step out of the box they wont be considered one of the great bands of this generation.

halifaxsb86
11/03/05, 01:21 PM
no one will ever again reach the beatles and what zepplin where! Everyone loved them and the industry did not control either of these bands but today the industry controls way to much. no one will ever again make the craze that those bands still have on people. all the bands that have been mentioned are not even close to the level of the forementioned bands.

Rufio21
11/03/05, 01:21 PM
ive seen at the drive in live.

priveleged motherfucker... I am glad there is someone else here that like some good tunes.

countingstars
11/03/05, 01:21 PM
I think green day will. I think they'll be remembered as one of the all time great punk bands and I think in 20 years time they'll be the equivalent of what the ramones are now. And dookie will always be one of the greatest punk albums too. I hope this is case. It'll be damn freaky if my kids start listening to green day!!

shane hennessey
11/03/05, 01:21 PM
There are barely any bands like zeppelin, floyd and the stones in todays music. The only bands selling out arenas are green day, coldplay and radiohead. They are also the only bands that are huge that can maintain a good reputation. Thrice, say anything and anything else like that will not be bands that everyone remembers. A few of them will be those bands that the mass public has heard of but never listened too

DroppedUrPocket
11/03/05, 01:22 PM
I would love to say Alkaline Trio or Glassjaw.

ALK's Goddammit & S/T are classics.

EYWTKAS will always resonate with me.

EnderDove
11/03/05, 01:22 PM
I agree with that.


Cursive will get bigger, i know it.

Dont be so confident, Kasher has said himself that he never know's when he will quit a band. He left Cursive before, now yes that was much earlier in their career but I dont see Cursive hitting mainstream possibly because they may not exsist down the road. Kasher will but I dont know if Cursive will always be playing due to Tim always wanting to do new things and not keep making the same records over and over and with Cursive he may feel like that is what he's doing.

last light
11/03/05, 01:22 PM
priveleged motherfucker... I am glad there is someone else here that like some good tunes.
haha ya ive seen some sweet shows, rage against the machine was another good one, right after evil empire came out.

Tyler Revolution
11/03/05, 01:23 PM
They will, as will a lot of other bands, but he said 'scene' bands, didn't he? I don't define them as 'scene' at all.
I didn't even read that he said "scene bands." I'm just stating that they will be around.

Panda
11/03/05, 01:23 PM
Quit naming all these bands you may like but have not even sold 100k records. The question was not "WHAT IS YOUR FAVORITE BAND??"

TyroneShoolaces
11/03/05, 01:24 PM
i think Thrice has a good shot if they stay on the same path and keep evolving/improving, but i think Mars Volta & Green Day are definitely 2 that will stick.

last light
11/03/05, 01:24 PM
this whole argument is based on how you take the question...if you are taking it as "these bands will have the impact on music that zeppelin has had" then the answer is no. i wont even listen to these bands 5 years from now period. I still think many of them will be around though, doing new things, thats why thrice got my vote, they continue to re-invent themselves, and in 20 years they will be seen as a band who brought out the best in this "scene" of music

Rufio21
11/03/05, 01:25 PM
just because they are on major labels does not make them mainstream...from this scene i definitely think you could be talking about thrice 20 years down, much like people still talk about social d, bad religion etc. will these bands ever be on the level as a zeppelin, or beatles? no, no other bands will.

They are pretty mainstream not like Kelly Clarkson but thousands upon thousands of people know of these bands. People dont even respect social d anymore.. fucking MEST opened up for them. hah

Hilikus
11/03/05, 01:25 PM
Dont be so confident, Kasher has said himself that he never know's when he will quit a band. He left Cursive before, now yes that was much earlier in their career but I dont see Cursive hitting mainstream possibly because they may not exsist down the road. Kasher will but I dont know if Cursive will always be playing due to Tim always wanting to do new things and not keep making the same records over and over and with Cursive he may feel like that is what he's doing.

this is true.

By big i dont really mean completely mainstream or anything like that.

Even if Cursive doesnt have a chance to get big, Tim Kasher will.

last light
11/03/05, 01:26 PM
They are pretty mainstream not like Kelly Clarkson but thousands upon thousands of people know of these bands. People dont even respect social d anymore.. fucking MEST opened up for them. hah
haha yuck.

lostntheseethru
11/03/05, 01:26 PM
I would love to say Alkaline Trio or Glassjaw.

ALK's Goddammit & S/T are classics.

EYWTKAS will always resonate with me.


i can see alkaline trio being up there but i dont know about our led zepplin or beatles....i mean in respect to them. i know no one will ever be the beatles or led zepplin but the idea behind the awesomeness that both bands are

BNO4LIFE
11/03/05, 01:26 PM
Were comparing bands like Zepplin who are still talked about 20 yrs later. I would consider this scene to be mainstream to be honest. OHh yeah ... is a real boy just got released by a major woah! Thrice- major, Green Day- major, FOB - major, NFG - major, CARTEL - major.. I could go on. None of these albums are classics like most of Floyds are. I just see ANY lasting power from "this" scene.

Cartel is on militia group, thats not a major label

moonlights
11/03/05, 01:26 PM
I dont know if Fugazi is considered our generation, but definitely Fugazi, I think they are the most punk band that ever existed. Their DIY and civil ethics really said so much in themselves.
Like Guy Picciotto (sp?) once said
"We've had 30 years of protest music, and no change", pointing out that obviously, we have all these bands, punk and otherwise preaching all this stuff but through out the years theres repetitive issues, really questioning the progress and/or credibility of what bands promote or sing about in their music. In other words, are they really making a difference, or is there a problem cause too many bands are preaching what they dont follow up on.
oh yeah, they write really good songs too. I


And then theres the Mars Volta, ive heard many comparisons of them to Led Zeppelin.
The influence is definitely there, but the Mars Volta are also most certainly their own band.
Like Zeppelin, who's commercial success came after a while they were a band,
I think that the Mars Volta will be more respected and appreciated years from now. At the same time, Frances the Mute has probably quadrupled their fanbase, and I thought it was their least accessible album.
Regardless, when you listen and watch the Mars Volta, its an experience, you just feel that these guys are playing like their lives depended on it and the improvs (that alot of people dont like) is the creation of the future songs and art right then and there, and you are a part of it.
Most people cant deny Mars Volta as a creative band, Ive come across many that will say that theyre too weird or they play too much pretentious self- indulgent music, which is fine, thats their opinion, but to me alot of it is as catchy, as it is dynamic and intense and weird and beautiful.
i would think fugazi has already found themselves in this category, or i would consider them to be in the 'underground' version of this category.

DroppedUrPocket
11/03/05, 01:27 PM
i can see alkaline trio being up there but i dont know about our led zepplin or beatles....i mean in respect to them. i know no one will ever be the beatles or led zepplin but the idea behind the awesomeness that both bands are

I'm thinking more in the mindset of bands that will be remembered 20 years from now. There will be no other Beatles or Zepplin.

tambo41187
11/03/05, 01:27 PM
Can't believe no one has said wilco yet.

DroppedUrPocket
11/03/05, 01:28 PM
Can't believe no one has said wilco yet.

I think one person did.

EnderDove
11/03/05, 01:28 PM
this is true.

By big i dont really mean completely mainstream or anything like that.

Even if Cursive doesnt have a chance to get big, Tim Kasher will.

By Tim getting "big" i'm guessing you still dont mean mainstream or on a major label. I think that down the road he could start getting more recognized and rightfully so.

snowtires
11/03/05, 01:28 PM
i don't really think there are any comparable bands, just because the situations are different. the beatles were the biggest band in the world. you'd be hard-pressed to find someone from back then who didn't know about the beatles. led zeppelin was one of the biggest bands in rock, it's not like there was only one subculture of fans who knew about them, everyone knew them. thrice and saves the day and all of those bands are not even close to being the biggest bands in the world right now, no matter how much you guys love them. not trying to be a dick, but that's just how it goes.

not only that, but music stopped being about music right around the time the rockstars started dying out. music has been about corporations making money for about 30 years now. even if there was a band who deserved to be called the next beatles, they would probably never be discovered because the type of free-thinking the beatles displayed isn't extremely marketable. of course radiohead are free thinkers, some other bands are, but they're not going to sell usher-level amounts of records and that's radiohead only has a handfull of fans compared to eminem and christina aguilera.

i don't really like radiohead but i'm sure people will be talking about them, although not nearly as much as the beatles, zeppelin, the stones, bob dylan, etc. i wish more people would listen to the decemberists, just because they are probably the best indie/folk/rock band i know, but i doubt that will happen.

danielj135
11/03/05, 01:28 PM
OHh yeah ... is a real boy just got released by a major woah! Thrice- major, Green Day- major, FOB - major, NFG - major, CARTEL - major.. I could go on. None of these albums are classics like most of Floyds are. I just see ANY lasting power from "this" scene.

Umm Cartel was released on The Militia Group... not exactly major.

I would have to say Death Cab because I could see their albums listened to not only in this scene but in a new "scene" in 20 years.

Also Radiohead because OK Computer is already considered classic.

Rufio21
11/03/05, 01:28 PM
Cartel is on militia group, thats not a major label

I dont know if they have announced it yet, but I am 99% sure they will be on a major next release

moonlights
11/03/05, 01:28 PM
Can't believe no one has said wilco yet.
someone did.


also, i'd like to add saves the day to my list. i don't know if they'll ever acheive the mainstreamness needed for this, but to the underground i think they'll be a very important band for years to come.

imirish06
11/03/05, 01:29 PM
Steel Train and Mars Volta

Fullcollapse3k
11/03/05, 01:29 PM
I didn't even read that he said "scene bands." I'm just stating that they will be around.

Yeah that's why I only said DCFC and Jimmy Eat World. I think Coldplay, The Foo Fighters, Radiohead and others will stick around for a number of years, but I don't put any of them into the scene category.

_all_star_me_
11/03/05, 01:29 PM
green day because they are up there with record sales, awesome album, and respect of millions. they are still old and rocking.

death cab for what they did for indie, and because they have as much intergrity as the legends. especially their photo album.

and the get up kids, and jimmy eat world for giving the chance to millions of kids to listnen to good bands.

reductiondesign
11/03/05, 01:29 PM
Green Day are going down in history. No doubt about that.

DeathCabForCoon
11/03/05, 01:30 PM
I think Blink 182 are going to be talked about years down the line. They started the pop-punk scene over a decade ago and have inspired so many other bands to pick up a guitar and start singing about dicks and farts. I think Enema of The State will be quoted as being the reason pop punk took off.

Fullcollapse3k
11/03/05, 01:30 PM
I would have to say Death Cab because I could see their albums listened to not only in this scene but in a new "scene" in 20 years.

Precisely the reason I said Death Cab and Jimmy Eat World. They have a sound that can transcend to a whole different scene of music that will likely come to the forefront in the future.

Rufio21
11/03/05, 01:31 PM
Steel Train 5 kids go to their shows

EnderDove
11/03/05, 01:31 PM
Green Day are going down in history. No doubt about that.

When they do go own in history I hope they leave American Idiot out of it.

Hilikus
11/03/05, 01:32 PM
By Tim getting "big" i'm guessing you still dont mean mainstream or on a major label. I think that down the road he could start getting more recognized and rightfully so.
Yeah that is what i mean.
Even if he is not recognized while he is alive, he will be once he is dead.

robdobi
11/03/05, 01:32 PM
anyone mention sigur ros yet?

atdi, really happy i got to see them w/ the murder city devils before they called it quits.

DroppedUrPocket
11/03/05, 01:33 PM
5 kids go to their shows
lmao

romeoheart
11/03/05, 01:34 PM
if you really wanna look at it green day has been around for 18 years now and you have to be a band for 25 years to be in rock and roll hall a fame so there not to far down the road from makeing that happen. also i think jimmy eat world has the power and the love of the music to be with us for a long time to come. id like to see yellowcard somewhere on that list but who knows. but i know green day and jimmy eat world will be

danielj135
11/03/05, 01:35 PM
I dont know if they have announced it yet, but I am 99% sure they will be on a major next release

yeah i dont think they've announced it but it wouldnt suprise me.

EnderDove
11/03/05, 01:35 PM
if you really wanna look at it green day has been around for 18 years now and you have to be a band for 25 years to be in rock and roll hall a fame so there not to far down the road from makeing that happen. also i think jimmy eat world has the power and the love of the music to be with us for a long time to come. id like to see yellowcard somewhere on that list but who knows. but i know green day and jimmy eat world will be

Yellowcard will fall into obscurity later down the road, they will get bigger but I dont see them having any kind of staying power.

kennethagee
11/03/05, 01:37 PM
i didn't go through everything, but i think 311 could possibly be one of those bands, i mean they are liked by a lot of people. They have been aroudn for a good 10 years adn are still going stong, they have sweet concerts and a lot of people drive really far to see them. Metallica might be another, I've always seen them as legendary, i mean the black album will go down in history I think. Green day and weezer have a good shot, Elliot Smith should go down in history, but I'm not sure he will get the credit he deserves. Blink wouldn't suprise me. I just hope to god P-diddy or anyone like that will go down as the leader of our generation. ohhh and death cab has a shot. incubus maybe?

lostntheseethru
11/03/05, 01:37 PM
I'm thinking more in the mindset of bands that will be remembered 20 years from now. There will be no other Beatles or Zepplin.


yea i know thats what i was trying to say. i know there will be no other beatles or zepplin i was just saying that if we were to think of it as the beatles and zepplin being the last generations music who would OUR equivalent be and i dont think alk3 would be there. they are definately high on the influence list but i dont think theyd be that high

Nigel
11/03/05, 01:37 PM
Coldplay

Bobcat46308
11/03/05, 01:37 PM
a new The Beatles? i don't know about that, i mean they were as Pop as it gets and although some bands in this "scene" are popular now, i don't think they can produce as many hits or develop as great a following as The Beatles.

as for Led Zeppelin, i'm not sure if i've heard anything since their days that sounds close. the band that will probably get a lot of comparisons in this discussion is Thrice and i can see why. they have a great fan base that appreciates the fact that they won't settle for the same old sound and keep growing as a band. i think they'll be around for awhile.

i know i will remember the bands i listen to now in 20 years, but as for the populace as a whole, i'm not sure.

(by the way, i think Stairway to Heaven is the greatest rock n roll song ever!)

Hilikus
11/03/05, 01:37 PM
5 kids go to their shows
this is true, when i saw them there were about 16 other people there. Which was actually pretty sweet.

They are an incredible band, but they dont have the staying power or popularity to last into the future.

punk shawn
11/03/05, 01:38 PM
THE MARS VOLTA! This band is the fucking Led Zeppelin of our generation, the end.



And....



Thrice. I believe Thrice is one of these bands because no matter what direction they go in musically, they put out amazing albums. Not one of their albums has dissapointed me yet. The way they keep maturing as well is incredible. Imagine if they keep maturing and what their next record will sound like....

Cburke5150
11/03/05, 01:40 PM
dont kid yourselves....
walk down your street.. ask 10 people who "say anything" or "armor for sleep" or even "brand new" are.. they will be dumbfounded...
ask the same people who green day are.. they will probably have some idea...
now days every band sounds the same and plays the same style of music,
but green day shaped that style of music..

so my final answer is green day.

Tipidi
11/03/05, 01:40 PM
I think Postal Service was quite revalutionary, but it could have been the time which i heard it... its my personal prefrence.

Brett9
11/03/05, 01:42 PM
It really all depends on how you look at music these days...The Beatles were a band that can never be topped because they are basically THE band that all of music holds up as an inspiration. Of course there were bands before them, but The Beatles were a worldwide phenomenon that CAN NEVER happen again in this world. Back when it was Beatlemania, the music world was completely different. Practically everyone listened to the same bands - there wasn't very much of an "underground" scene...everything was really mainstream. At least in the sense of "music" in general, mostly everything was mainstream. (There was no internet, no street teams, etc.)

Today, it's debatable whether certain "underground" or "indie" bands could possibly be considered "mainstream"...Death Cab for Cutie, Jimmy Eat World, etc. There are a million different "levels" of music....so each "scene" might have what IT considers to be the "Beatles" of their scene...but there could never be another group that changes music the way the Beatles did. There are actually MANY bands which have and will change music in each different genre and each different scene.

So to make a long and confusing explanation short, I'd have to say that if you're talking about "what bands will define this generation" in the mainstream, I'd have to go with Coldplay. I'm not a huge fan of their stuff, but you can't deny their power...just see how long it takes a Coldplay show to sell out. But in my opinion the band that will have a lasting impression on music in "underground" scenes (and maybe even music in general)...and will probably inspire musicians for years to come would have to be Death Cab for Cutie. It's pretty hard to think of another band which writes such genius material while still managing to succeed in every level of music they enter. They've had the underground and indie scene wrapped up for years now, and over the past few years have been succeeding in the mainstream as well. To me, that's the sign of a truly great band...one that can impress almost anyone that hears them. I can't think of a band who does that better than Death Cab.

EnderDove
11/03/05, 01:42 PM
dont kid yourselves....
walk down your street.. ask 10 people who "say anything" or "armor for sleep" or even "brand new" are.. they will be dumbfounded...
ask the same people who green day are.. they will probably have some idea...
now days every band sounds the same and plays the same style of music,
but green day shaped that style of music..

so my final answer is green day.

They helped shaped a small section of music, maybe they shaped the form of the bands you know and listen to but there are far more that Green Day didnt shape anything for.

Razz Barry
11/03/05, 01:43 PM
The arcade fire has potential. Conor certainly is getting the publicity at a youngish age, and Elliott Smith will be remembered in an Ian Curtis way.

The music industry is not set up for another band to ever exist like the Beatles did.

I got a kick out of all of you mentioning Tim Kasher. I love the guy, but c'mon.

Fury15
11/03/05, 01:43 PM
angels and airwaves

hahah

movielife89
11/03/05, 01:44 PM
Pearl Jam can absolutely fit that category. Whether you are ignorant enough to label them as grunge because of Ten, you have never listened to their albums, or ever seen them. In light of everything, this bad has put out amazing music, while "keeping it real"

EnderDove
11/03/05, 01:44 PM
The arcade fire has potential. Conor certainly is getting the publicity at a youngish age, and Elliott Smith will be remembered in an Ian Curtis way.

The music industry is not set up for another band to ever exist like the Beatles did.

I got a kick out of all of you mentioning Tim Kasher. I love the guy, but c'mon.

Elaboroate on your Kasher statement.

DroppedUrPocket
11/03/05, 01:44 PM
dont kid yourselves....
walk down your street.. ask 10 people who "say anything" or "armor for sleep" or even "brand new" are.. they will be dumbfounded...
ask the same people who green day are.. they will probably have some idea...
now days every band sounds the same and plays the same style of music,
but green day shaped that style of music..

so my final answer is green day.

While you have a point, the aforementioned bands are still young, which I think everyone is forgetting. And the initial question is what bands so you think will be around 20 years from now, not who is going to be the most famous.

theacademyis
11/03/05, 01:46 PM
someone said sigur ros and while they are amazing, they won't be one of the bands if any get remembered from this time just because they dont have a big appeal to everyone.

like everyone else though, the only ones i'd say that are in the running to be remembered at all would be green day and coldplay.

lostntheseethru
11/03/05, 01:46 PM
While you have a point, the aforementioned bands are still young, which I think everyone is forgetting. And the initial question is what bands so you think will be around 20 years from now, not who is going to be the most famous.


but without the idea of fame no band would be around for 20 years so hes on the right track....

Pearl Jam can absolutely fit that category. Whether you are ignorant enough to label them as grunge because of Ten, you have never listened to their albums, or ever seen them. In light of everything, this bad has put out amazing music, while "keeping it real"
very good point

harryCane
11/03/05, 01:47 PM
I highly doubt that bands like Brand New, Copeland or Say Anything will be remembered to this extent in 10 years... To be remembered then, you have to be very well-known now... And even though I enjoy bands more mainstream bands like Fall Out Boy, Yellowcard and Blink-182, it's nothing innovative. I guess there simple is no band right now in "our scene" that makes such a big impact on the music history as the Beatles or Led Zeppelin...

DroppedUrPocket
11/03/05, 01:48 PM
but without the idea of fame no band would be around for 20 years so hes on the right track....

Haha. Maybe. Bands could go for a long time without being extremely famous. Then again, it still goes back to the young issue. These bands still have many years to come. Say Anything hasn't had a major label debut (unless you count the rerelease). Brand New has had two records. I think if Deja was on a major, it would have been monsterous.

mrzippo3
11/03/05, 01:49 PM
Fallen From the Sky

King Caesar
11/03/05, 01:50 PM
there will never be another beatles
nothing ever anywhere will even come close
coldplay and green day will still be around, but the stir that they have created and will be remembered for is like a slight change in the wind, compared to the beatles who swept away the whole world with their style and music.

Razz Barry
11/03/05, 01:51 PM
Elaboroate on your Kasher statement.
Kasher is a great and clever lyricist in both bands, but his lyrics are too focused and single minded to ever speak to a generation. He is pretty straightforward about alcohol and failed relationships with his songwriting. Thematically he isnt cryptic or vague (or trite) enough to ever have mass appeal. Dont get me wrong, hes one of my favorites, I just dont think he fits into this discussion.

SLADE775
11/03/05, 01:51 PM
None.



sadly.

Pooavenger
11/03/05, 01:52 PM
Not too much from our scene will be rememberd because it's all expendable. What's hot now won't be in a few years. The few bands in my opinion who should be won't. This scene is just littered and overcrowded with generic music. The only bands that will be are the classic punk bands NOFX, Bad Religion, Rancid, Pennywise. Other than that the only other bands would be Mars Volta. There are few bands that re-invent music and make it great. Everyone just wants to do what the last guy did and add maybe one little difference. The only other band that I know will be remembered that's from out time is Radiohead.

jfb392
11/03/05, 01:52 PM
Coheed & Cambria
Green Day

lostntheseethru
11/03/05, 01:53 PM
Haha. Maybe. Bands could go for a long time without being extremely famous. Then again, it still goes back to the young issue. These bands still have many years to come. Say Anything hasn't had a major label debut (unless you count the rerelease). Brand New has had two records. I think if Deja was on a major, it would have been monsterous.


yea you're right too. the younger bands do need more time they have to be given the opportunity to show what they've got

ontheeverglow
11/03/05, 01:53 PM
coheed and cambria

SLADE775
11/03/05, 01:55 PM
What everyone is forgetting, is that 30 years ago things were so much different. There was not such a vast varienty of music. And orginality was alive and well.

Now If something gets popular it's automaticly scoffed at becuse of that fact.

See fall out boy.

lostntheseethru
11/03/05, 01:55 PM
Coheed & Cambria
Green Day


oh i didnt think about coheed....they very well could fit in on this level

snowtires
11/03/05, 01:55 PM
Haha. Maybe. Bands could go for a long time without being extremely famous. Then again, it still goes back to the young issue. These bands still have many years to come. Say Anything hasn't had a major label debut (unless you count the rerelease). Brand New has had two records. I think if Deja was on a major, it would have been monsterous.

if an album's good enough, it doesn't have to be on a major to be monstrous. case-in-point: pretty hate machine (nin). who hasn't heard head like a hole? maybe it wasn't beatles monstrous, but that was a pretty huge album and the downward spiral wasn't too shabby, either. for what it's worth, funeral (arcade fire) is pretty monstrous in its own right. but just being on major label doesn't suddenly make a decent album amazing and accepted by millions.

SLADE775
11/03/05, 01:56 PM
there will never be another beatles
nothing ever anywhere will even come close
coldplay and green day will still be around, but the stir that they have created and will be remembered for is like a slight change in the wind, compared to the beatles who swept away the whole world with their style and music.
true.

DroppedUrPocket
11/03/05, 01:56 PM
What everyone is forgetting, is that 30 years ago things were so much different. There was not such a vast varienty of music. And orginality was alive and well.

Now If something gets popular it's automaticly scoffed at becuse of that fact.

See fall out boy.

Only within our scene.

Counterpoint: look at Green Day. American Idiot is loved by 14 year olds and adults alike.

SLADE775
11/03/05, 01:57 PM
coheed and cambria
no.

Only within our scene.

Counterpoint: look at Green Day. American Idiot is loved by 14 year olds and adults alike.
Yes you're right.

I'm talking about our scene.

snowtires
11/03/05, 01:57 PM
Only within our scene.

Counterpoint: look at Green Day. American Idiot is loved by 14 year olds and adults alike.

yeah, but so is usher

Hilikus
11/03/05, 01:57 PM
Kasher is a great and clever lyricist in both bands, but his lyrics are too focused and single minded to ever speak to a generation. He is pretty straightforward about alcohol and failed relationships with his songwriting. Thematically he isnt cryptic or vague (or trite) enough to ever have mass appeal. Dont get me wrong, hes one of my favorites, I just dont think he fits into this discussion.

I think that Kasher has much more of chance than The Arcade Fire, who you mentioned.


Also no one has mentioned Bjork. She will surely live on.

looram12
11/03/05, 01:59 PM
I don't think anything will have that staying power anymore, not as long as music is an industry, certain bands may become "trendy" again in the future, much like clothing (another "industry") but as long as things are as diluted as much as they are in the mainstream today, picking out a band that will become timeless seems next to impossible. Not only were the beatles groundbreaking, but they were also at the cusp of a very large change. Since then, bands, much like other things become timeless after the fact (nirvana, sublime, etc.) much like Picasso or Dickinson. Comparing the Beatles to contemporary bands is like comparing Neil Armstrong to the Hubbel telescope. Its easy and its mass produced now. Bands like coldplay and U2 and Bruce Springsteen span generations because of an appeal that most bands in "our scene" will never have simply because they aren't meant to. I love the music i listen to, and I may love it untill the day i die, but unfortunately I already hear my kids telling me "that stuff I listen to" is hokey and old and then leaving the room to put their IpodImplants back into the holes in their spine to listen to yet another album that Tupac released from the grave

Chris Hero
11/03/05, 02:00 PM
Are fucking kidding me? All if not most of these bands are nothing more than a piss in the bucket trend. They'll be all those long forgotten 80's hair metal bands.

lostntheseethru
11/03/05, 02:00 PM
if an album's good enough, it doesn't have to be on a major to be monstrous. case-in-point: pretty hate machine (nin). who hasn't heard head like a hole? maybe it wasn't beatles monstrous, but that was a pretty huge album and the downward spiral wasn't too shabby, either. for what it's worth, funeral (arcade fire) is pretty monstrous in its own right. but just being on major label doesn't suddenly make a decent album amazing and accepted by millions.



but major labels cant hurt a great band. (yea i know now everyone can jump my shit for a comment like that) but seriously. if a band is that great that it doesnt need the major label to get it going like your example of nin then if it were a major label then it could have only gotten better. does that make sense?

COG
11/03/05, 02:01 PM
I think several things are being forgotten.

First off, the Beatles were a pop band for years, but when they started playing the music that they will forever be remembered for, (sgt. peppers and the white album, things like that, the later stuff) the radio staopped playing it because it was not radio friendly. The Beatles were pretty much two different bands depending on what era you look at.
Led Zeppelin was the same way, it didn't get played on the radio much, bands like that were "too heavy" for the mainstream public, they were famous because they were good, not because they were on the radio, they had plenty of fans though, yeah. Same with a band like the greatful dead, they will go down as famous and important, but only had one song ever hit the charts, and most fans didn't like the song.
Most of the huge bands from the past were not big pop sensations, they were propeled to fame by what we would now call the underground.
That brings me to my next point, which is that people who listen to the radio and don't delve into music, they won't remember any bands from our era, the bands that will be remembered from our era will be remembered by people that love music, by us. So whatever we listen to will be what is remembered 20 years from now, people who listen to whatever comes on the local top40 station will not be dragging their kids to Click 5 reunion shows, we will be the ones still going to show, and listening to the same music we listen to now, just like our parents will listen to Zepelin and Floyd and Hendrix till the day they die.
I also think that people are missing the point when they say that bands will never be big like they were before, the big bands will be the ones that influence a lot of other bands, so yes, Green Day will be remembered, even though I don't like them, but I think bands like Thrice have a good chance too. They are definatly what I would call a "bands band", they are respected by people in the industry, bands like At the Drive-in and Fugazi will defiantly be remembered, bands 10 years from now will likely be name-dropping them in interviews left and right when they talk about influences.
Thats all I can think of for now.

PaperclipAnemia
11/03/05, 02:01 PM
i just thought this the other day.

i know the cd is 10 years old, but I think Smashing Pumpkins Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness will be popular 20 years from now. It was huge when it came out, and I think it will continuie to sell for a long time.

DroppedUrPocket
11/03/05, 02:01 PM
if an album's good enough, it doesn't have to be on a major to be monstrous. case-in-point: pretty hate machine (nin). who hasn't heard head like a hole? maybe it wasn't beatles monstrous, but that was a pretty huge album and the downward spiral wasn't too shabby, either. for what it's worth, funeral (arcade fire) is pretty monstrous in its own right. but just being on major label doesn't suddenly make a decent album amazing and accepted by millions.

This is very true. BUT being on a major doesn't hurt either. You made an example of 2 records that broke the mold, which is very hard to do nowadays with labels picking out anything and everything and trying to make money. In my opinion, Deja was nothing less than a perfect album and I think millions would be able to recognize it as so.

lostntheseethru
11/03/05, 02:02 PM
Are fucking kidding me? All if not most of these bands are nothing more than a piss in the bucket trend. They'll be all those long forgotten 80's hair metal bands.



well we dont see you point out your idea of a ground breaking band....so until you can prove us all wrong i think maybe you should tone it down a bit.

DroppedUrPocket
11/03/05, 02:03 PM
yeah, but so is usher

We're not talking about that kind of music. Anyhow, who knows, maybe Usher will be on a R&B Oldies station in 20 years.

lostntheseethru
11/03/05, 02:03 PM
This is very true. BUT being on a major doesn't hurt either. You made an example of 2 records that broke the mold, which is very hard to do nowadays with labels picking out anything and everything and trying to make money. In my opinion, Deja was nothing less than a perfect album and I think millions would be able to recognize it as so.

oh wow....we were on the same page with that one...you just were able to say it better than me

TheWordsmith
11/03/05, 02:04 PM
i think it's a little early to dismiss bands from this scene, simply because they haven't put out enough discs. 2006 is going to be good because we'll finally have a few records from a handful of noteworthy bands to listen to and understand how they fit in a historical context.

i think a few that've been mentioned could be talked about in 20 years (death cab, jimmy eat world, sigur ros, the mars volta) just because of the artistry of those musicians combined with the foresight that they hold.

i also think sufjan could make some realllllllly special records on down the line. there's something going in michigan with s.stevens and anathallo, they're making some awesome records.

Hilikus
11/03/05, 02:04 PM
once again i must repeat myself



Bjork

SLADE775
11/03/05, 02:04 PM
Are fucking kidding me? All if not most of these bands are nothing more than a piss in the bucket trend. They'll be all those long forgotten 80's hair metal bands.

shut up.

Go find a "you" and position in correctly.

snowtires
11/03/05, 02:05 PM
We're not talking about that kind of music. Anyhow, who knows, maybe Usher will be on a R&B Oldies station in 20 years.
god i hope not

SLADE775
11/03/05, 02:05 PM
once again i must repeat myself



Bjork
hahahahahaahah

I hate her.

zbrmike79
11/03/05, 02:05 PM
Bright Eyes
and
Blink 182

tooemoformycat
11/03/05, 02:05 PM
if there is any truth to what Tom says then I must say....Angels and Airwaves!!!

I wouldn't put it past him...

and Travis will always be remembered...this generations Keith Moon?

Razz Barry
11/03/05, 02:07 PM
i also think sufjan could make some realllllllly special records on down the line.
absolutely. especially if he sticks with his 50 states thing.

Hilikus
11/03/05, 02:07 PM
hahahahahaahah

I hate her.

dude fuck that shit, seriously she will be remembered. She is a genuis.

Throwback
11/03/05, 02:07 PM
In a few albums, Say Anything.
Agreed, if Bemis doesn't kill himself. He reminds me of the type who would die young, he seems to fit the 'martyr' mold.

EnderDove
11/03/05, 02:07 PM
Kasher is a great and clever lyricist in both bands, but his lyrics are too focused and single minded to ever speak to a generation. He is pretty straightforward about alcohol and failed relationships with his songwriting. Thematically he isnt cryptic or vague (or trite) enough to ever have mass appeal. Dont get me wrong, hes one of my favorites, I just dont think he fits into this discussion.

No I understand, he is a very topical songwriter which is why before I also said that he wouldnt reach a massive audience. He already has quite a following of listener's who love what he writes and that is just what he needs.

Chris Hero
11/03/05, 02:08 PM
Groundbreaking would be Fugazi or Sonic Youth, but they'll never get any recognition like Zeppelin or the Beatles.

mrzippo3
11/03/05, 02:09 PM
Cap'n Geech and The Shrimp Shack Shooters

lostntheseethru
11/03/05, 02:09 PM
god i hope not


id rather it be usher than some of the shit thats out now...

Chris Hero
11/03/05, 02:11 PM
Seriously, in 10 or 20 years do you really think people are going to give two shits about bands like Fall Out Boy, and Motion City Soundtrack?

The Coalition
11/03/05, 02:11 PM
Sigur Ros is the band that will be the band of our time. They capture any age, and bring art back into music. They have so many fans through such diverse crowds, and are globally huge, not just in the US.

astarlighthreat
11/03/05, 02:12 PM
the only possibility i would say is Brand New if their new album is incredible because they have a very very original sound, which is what makes bands remembered. Other than Brand New its highly unlikely because of the internet. Informaton travles much too fast and people are listening to a lot of new bands because its so easy for them to be heard.

weezer182
11/03/05, 02:12 PM
i think maybe green day, blink 182, oasis, weezer and coldplay could do it. to do it you have to not only sell a lot of records but you also have to be a household name. a lot of people have never heard of some bands like thrice and coheed & cambria ect.....

LostSymphonies
11/03/05, 02:13 PM
I honestly believe that no band in our "scene" will have any lasting power, most bands will release 2 or 3 albums and end up breaking up. It's unfortunate but alot of what popular music is today is just a fad, and I'm not saying it's bad music, because I love it. But i think the days of having led zeppelin's and the beatles' are over. The only bands I see sort of lasting are Blink and Green Day, they are the pioneers of what we listen to today

DroppedUrPocket
11/03/05, 02:13 PM
Cap'n Geech and The Shrimp Shack Shooters

Hahaha. Yes.

SLADE775
11/03/05, 02:15 PM
Agreed, if Bemis doesn't kill himself. He reminds me of the type who would die young, he seems to fit the 'martyr' mold.
yeah he does.

DOWNLOADING AND I PODS ARE RUINING BANDS

thesynapse
11/03/05, 02:15 PM
It's too bad Steel Train isn't all that popular. I believe they have the potential to be talked about 20 years from now.

Hilikus
11/03/05, 02:17 PM
It's too bad Steel Train isn't all that popular. I believe they have the potential to be talked about 20 years from now.

agreed

A picasso blue
11/03/05, 02:18 PM
the only one i could see of even having a chance is The Mars Volta. maybe

SLADE775
11/03/05, 02:18 PM
It's too bad Steel Train isn't all that popular. I believe they have the potential to be talked about 20 years from now.
How bout no.

jsteil
11/03/05, 02:18 PM
It depends on the person, but here are some bands I would put in the pot of being remembered.in 20 years.

Rage Against The Machine
Greenday
Coldplay
Incubus
311
Slipknot
Reel Big Fish
Less Than Jake
New Found Glory

Member
11/03/05, 02:18 PM
I could see people appreciating, Brand New along with Something Corporate/Jack's Mannequin because they have produced two of the longest lasting albums for me and I could see people still listening tothem 20 years from now. I also would say My Chemical Romance is a band that people will remember 20 years from now.

brutusUbastard
11/03/05, 02:19 PM
I'm really suprised no one has said Coheed and Cambria.

I'm going to have to go with Converge. Not only have they help craft a blend of hardcore and metal everybody and their grandma try to repeat, they continue to do it and make it better than everyone else. If mainstream listener's could handle Converge, Bannon would be at an almost Reznor like status. Converge are truly one of the only bands I can think of that will be remembered 20 years down the road, especially since they've been doing it for so long already and have never once sold-out their sound.

Also Dillinger Escape Plan has a very good chance at being remembered.

SLADE775
11/03/05, 02:19 PM
the only one i could see of even having a chance is The Mars Volta. maybe
also a giant no. They will all OD on coke soon enough.

I'm really suprised no one has said Coheed and Cambria.

I'm going to have to go with Converge. Not only have they help craft a blend of hardcore and metal everybody and their grandma try to repeat, they continue to do it and make it better than everyone else. If mainstream listener's could handle Converge, Bannon would be at an almost Reznor like status. Converge are truly one of the only bands I can think of that will be remembered 20 years down the road, especially since they've been doing it for so long already and have never once sold-out their sound.

Also Dillinger Escape Plan has a very good chance at being remembered.

read the thread.

about 7 people have.

snowtires
11/03/05, 02:20 PM
311! come on. not a chance

Bishop
11/03/05, 02:20 PM
At the Drive In
Cursive
Rilo Kiley
Saves The Day
Ted Leo
Wilco and only because Yankee Hotel Foxtrot was such a stellar album.

mrzippo3
11/03/05, 02:20 PM
My Chemical Who? I already forgot who they were..

last light
11/03/05, 02:20 PM
I'm really suprised no one has said Coheed and Cambria.

I'm going to have to go with Converge. Not only have they help craft a blend of hardcore and metal everybody and their grandma try to repeat, they continue to do it and make it better than everyone else. If mainstream listener's could handle Converge, Bannon would be at an almost Reznor like status. Converge are truly one of the only bands I can think of that will be remembered 20 years down the road, especially since they've been doing it for so long already and have never once sold-out their sound.

Also Dillinger Escape Plan has a very good chance at being remembered.
converge is the best band ever. that is all.

Bobcat46308
11/03/05, 02:21 PM
Are fucking kidding me? All if not most of these bands are nothing more than a piss in the bucket trend. They'll be all those long forgotten 80's hair metal bands.
you mean like motley crue, whitesnake, def leopard, the scorpions, bon jovi... etc.? it's well over 20 years since those bands started and i still know of them, even though they made music before i was born.
a band doesn't have to still be making music to be remembered, and maybe some of these bands who you think are "a piss in the bucket trend" could stand the test of time (i just don't know who these bands are). some kid born today might be listening to our favorite bands 20 years from now and like the music.

brutusUbastard
11/03/05, 02:22 PM
Sigur Ros is the band that will be the band of our time. They capture any age, and bring art back into music. They have so many fans through such diverse crowds, and are globally huge, not just in the US.
I can agree with that along with Mogwai, but neither are really part of this scene.
Sigur Ros is the one of the most highly sought after concerts in the world. Thats incredibly hard to compete with.

TylerDurden911
11/03/05, 02:22 PM
I don't think there's even a possibility that a band working today will have the same impact on music as the Beatles or Zeppelin. But there ARE a bunch of bands that will be remembered down the road. Although this would look a lot like fortune telling, here are my picks:
-At the Drive-In: They've already gained a sort of "icon" status, and they really pushed things forward.
-Green Day: Well, obviously, they brought punk into the mainstream and are still putting out very good albums.
-Thrice: I've said it before and I'll say it again. If they continue to evolve and put out a couple of other albums as ambitious and fully realized as Vheissu, they could very well be one of the most important bands of this generation.
Then there are the obvious (although I don't necessarily agree with every one of them):
Radiohead, Coldplay, Weezer, Rage Against The Machine, Nirvana(Believe it or not!), plus a bunch of crappy stuff, which I really hope doesn't stick, but probably will...

duffe
11/03/05, 02:23 PM
Nirvana.

nerogtr
11/03/05, 02:24 PM
Thrice - Vheissu (those of you who own it know why).

A picasso blue
11/03/05, 02:24 PM
also a giant no. They will all OD on coke soon enough.



read the thread.

about 7 people have.
all joking aside..no?


there was a poll in Guitar World and Omar was voted the 'next big thing' over Mike Einziger and some metal guitarist (maybe like ETID?)

brutusUbastard
11/03/05, 02:24 PM
also a giant no. They will all OD on coke soon enough.

read the thread.

about 7 people have.
my bad, i read about three pages before giving up. I saw too much say anything and brand new for my liking. although i do like brand new.

duffe
11/03/05, 02:24 PM
Rage Against The Machine.

snowtires
11/03/05, 02:25 PM
i'd like us all to take a step back to take in the fact that, in the 'who will be the next beatles' thread, someone said 311.

tambo41187
11/03/05, 02:27 PM
Wilco and only because Yankee Hotel Foxtrot was such a stellar album.
Easily their best, but i can see this band putting out spectacular albums for awhile to come. Also, A Ghost Was Born, is a pretty damn good record...just not as good as YHF.

duffe
11/03/05, 02:27 PM
Red Hot Chili Peppers "Blood sugar sex magik "

mrzippo3
11/03/05, 02:28 PM
didn't say 311 was gonna be THE NEXT Beatles, it said 311 will be remembered in 20 years

IAmTheKiller
11/03/05, 02:28 PM
Not that I agree with it much with their latest stuff, but I'd say Green Day. I'd say Thursday though.. they're an amazing band and they just keep stepping it up. Their next release should be amazing.

A picasso blue
11/03/05, 02:29 PM
why are people saying Nirvana? First of all they're not a part of the "AP.net scene" and second of all, they've already lasted almost12 years

jsteil
11/03/05, 02:29 PM
There not the next beatles, I put them on the list because they have been around for along time, they influenced alot of people here in the midwest since their from Omaha and will surely be remembered by alot of people probably 20 years from now.

AndrewM562
11/03/05, 02:29 PM
RadioHead, Coldplay,... maybe Muse... Thrice is amazing but I don't think they have enough mainstream appeal to become timeless(Check record sales)

brutusUbastard
11/03/05, 02:29 PM
I can see Rage Against the Machine.
And Ryan Adams.

van_morrison
11/03/05, 02:29 PM
no bands, because there is no single band large enough to significantly impact culture and influence music like bands such as the beatles, led zepplin and the who have, and going back further they have chuck berry and muddy waters to look on, who had robert johnson and other 30s blues and ragtime music to draw from. the music scene now has just become reciprocal, as no one is really doing anything that new stylistically, as it has already been done.

I Shoot Bands
11/03/05, 02:30 PM
green day is the only band that comes close. everyone else will be forgotten through time.

SLADE775
11/03/05, 02:32 PM
DOWNLOADING AND I PODS ARE RUINING BANDS!




DO YOU PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THIS?

closerthankyle
11/03/05, 02:32 PM
the problem with this question is that most bands in this scene cannot have mainstream success and the support of the scene. once a band crosses over from indie to mainsteam, most of their fanbase dislikes them for doing so.

it's sad.

SLADE775
11/03/05, 02:32 PM
no bands, because there is no single band large enough to significantly impact culture and influence music like bands such as the beatles, led zepplin and the who have, and going back further they have chuck berry and muddy waters to look on, who had robert johnson and other 30s blues and ragtime music to draw from. the music scene now has just become reciprocal, as no one is really doing anything that new stylistically, as it has already been done.
perfect.

The Coalition
11/03/05, 02:32 PM
I can agree with that along with Mogwai, but neither are really part of this scene.
Sigur Ros is the one of the most highly sought after concerts in the world. Thats incredibly hard to compete with.

Agreed on Mogwai, but I think Sigur Ros will have a longer lasting effect on Mogwai because Sigur has been able to have bigger tours in the US. Sigur Ros has also helped artists like Mogwai, Anima, and the Album Leaf reach new levels of success in the US.

While I agree they aren't a part of the "scene," I think there is no "scene." This website covers music, and a lot of Indie music. There are hundreds of bands in this supposed "scene" that draw influence from/are huge fans of Sigur Ros. If Coldplay makes it in, or Radiohead(A band I once thought would be our generations Beatles), than surely you must list Sigur Ros.

I was going for the band of our time, more than one specific genre. When it comes down to the big picture we are just talking about Rock N' Roll, any band that will be remembered in 20 years surely will not be defined by genres.

And in conclusion I know a lot of people on this site are huge fans of Sigur Ros, and I think even more would be once they heard them.

DroppedUrPocket
11/03/05, 02:33 PM
duffe will be remembered 20 years from now.

jsteil
11/03/05, 02:34 PM
Greenday are good, but I think Rage Against The Machine will live on and inspire although members are in other bands or singing at hispanic weddings the issues they sing about are still about today.

BrandNothing
11/03/05, 02:34 PM
In my opinion, there are a few bands that with a few more releases might just be able to earn that status such as the spill canvas, thursday, taking back sunday IF john and shaun stayed in the band, and movie life if they stayed together. Right now I think green day, blink, at the drive-in, and elliott smith. Part of it too though is being able to stand the test of time and still be putting out music over different generations that still apeal to masses. I don't really see any of the bands in the scene doing that though...

FeynmanWannabe
11/03/05, 02:34 PM
My $.02
This is "Bands who might still be talked about in 20 years" rather than "Bands who will have the influence on the same level as the Beatles"

Bright Eyes: Legions of fans. The next record (maybe two) will make him or break him, I think. I'm curious to see what he writes about as I think that will be the main focus because it will determine what group of people will (continue to) listen to him. The way he's going, though, he's got a chance (probably the best).

Ben Folds: I like the all-ages appeal of Ben Folds. Though he's not popular enough probably, I'll still nominate him.

Sufjan Stevens: The Americana flair puts him in a good position. I think we'll reach a point where we'll need to stress our commonalities and music that incorporates that will be successful. Furthermore, the issues he touches upon are so incredibly varied and universal that anyone of any age group could listen to it (you should have been at the concert I went to)

Radiohead: I don't really need to say much, do I?

Elliot Smith: Excellent musician who left us too soon. He might drift back to Nick
Drake status in the coming years though, which would be sad

RATM: Perfect synthesis of rap & rock (not the late 90s kind), but it's the political flair that puts them over the top. Also broke up too soon. They were unique and were all extremely talented musicians yet extremely popular.

Green Day: Huge popularitly...huge. The fact that they REALLY brought pop-punk into the mainstream will be remembered. Plus, Dookie is the perfect first album. Once your kid discovers that consider it gone from your cd wallet.

Brand New: Of our 'scene' bands Brand New probably has the best chance in my book, although their are others (Thrice, Thursday, etc). I though the subjects covered in Deja Entendu were so varied that if they can keep that up and keep the music sounding great, they have a shot.

DroppedUrPocket
11/03/05, 02:35 PM
DOWNLOADING AND I PODS ARE RUINING BANDS]DO YOU PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THIS?

Add myspace to the list.

JunkBondTrader
11/03/05, 02:36 PM
I love when people just put their favorite bands.....though I love Say Anything to death they will not be a factor in music in 20 years. But NONE of these bands will have the impact that The Beatles or Led Zeppelin have had on the world...

THE FOLLOWING BANDS WILL BE REMEMBERED IN 20 YEARS

The Red Hot Chili Peppers (though they have almost been around for 20)
Radiohead
Wilco
The Strokes
Oasis
Coldplay
Phish
Bright Eyes (Conor is only 25 or whatever, he'll be hopefully making music for another 40 if he lives that long)
Dave Matthews Band
Elliott Smith
The Flaming Lips
Rage Against The Machine
Green Day
Blink 182
Kanye West
Jay-Z
Puff Daddy/P. Diddy/Diddy
Notorious BIG
Tupac
Nine Inch Nails
Marilyn Manson
...and thats all i can think of off the top of my head

Nigel
11/03/05, 02:37 PM
I love when people just put their favorite bands.....though I love Say Anything to death they will not be a factor in music in 20 years. But NONE of these bands will have the impact that The Beatles or Led Zeppelin have had on the world...

THE FOLLOWING BANDS WILL BE REMEMBERED IN 20 YEARS
Coldplay
Blink 182
Tupac
Nine Inch Nails

Agree :thumbsup:
Well said

TylerDurden911
11/03/05, 02:39 PM
You've actually put the fucking Strokes in there?!? I agree with the rest of the list... but the Strokes?!? Come on!

funnytalkinfish
11/03/05, 02:39 PM
thrice wont be around in 20 years time

brutusUbastard
11/03/05, 02:40 PM
Agreed on Mogwai, but I think Sigur Ros will have a longer lasting effect on Mogwai because Sigur has been able to have bigger tours in the US. Sigur Ros has also helped artists like Mogwai, Anima, and the Album Leaf reach new levels of success in the US.

While I agree they aren't a part of the "scene," I think there is no "scene." This website covers music, and a lot of Indie music. There are hundreds of bands in this supposed "scene" that draw influence from/are huge fans of Sigur Ros. If Coldplay makes it in, or Radiohead(A band I once thought would be our generations Beatles), than surely you must list Sigur Ros.

I was going for the band of our time, more than one specific genre. When it comes down to the big picture we are just talking about Rock N' Roll, any band that will be remembered in 20 years surely will not be defined by genres.

And in conclusion I know a lot of people on this site are huge fans of Sigur Ros, and I think even more would be once they heard them.
thats a great point. now that i think about it a lot of bands in this scene that i've talked to either like mogwai or Sigur Ros. Dallas Taylor's, Maylene and the Sons of Disaster, side project Everret is influenced by Sigur Ros. I also see many other bands list mogwai in either bands they listen to (Finch/ Brand New) or bands they would like to tour with (Dillinger Escape Plan). Both bands will be remembered a long time, but your on the dot saying Sigur Ros will be the bigger. I wish I could have gone to that concert when they came to Atlanta. That would have been the best concert of my life, no contest.

GlassyLight
11/03/05, 02:40 PM
This is a sticky situation indeed. When you mention the Queens, the Led Zeppelins, the Pink Floyds of the world, you mention bands that damn near EVERYONE in the world loved. Those bands changed the world, whether they wanted to or not. When that criteria is taken into context, absolutely no bands will be remembered in the same vein as those greats. The reason is, quite simply, the over-genrefication of music. No one can stand to be just another face in the 'alternative' crowd, so we develop our screamos, our metalcores, out posthardcores. The multitude of people hear these words and automatically tune out stuff that doesn't fall into what they stand for.

10 years ago there was Rock 'n Roll, Alternative, Country, Pop, and Rap -- with flourishes of Hip Hop becoming a distinct genre. In those days such bands as Alice in Chains, Rage Against the Machine, and Oasis were all thrown together into the 'alternative' scene and people let themselves hear the music rather than see the label.

I truly feel that to find the most recent truly influential bands, you have to go back roughly 10-15 years. My personal short list includes:

-Smashing Pumpkins
-Alice in Chains (hell, listen to any rock radio and you'll see the influence)
-Guns N Roses

Especially Guns N Roses. In the stretch from Appetite for Destruction to the culmination of the Use Your Illusion tours, they could simultaneously enthrall and entertain everyone while pissing everyone off. No matter who you were, you KNEW who Guns N Roses were, and you either loved them or hated them.

Any band that can make a song that is filled with such prejudice and hatred as "One in a Million" and STILL get people singing along is a band for the ages.

EDIT: add nine inch nails to the list.

FeynmanWannabe
11/03/05, 02:41 PM
I thought your picks were interesting, so i responded to them


The Red Hot Chili Peppers (though they have almost been around for 20) AGREED
Radiohead AGREED
Wilco DOUBTFUL
The Strokes DOUBTFUL
Oasis POSSIBLY
Coldplay POSSIBLY (though I think they might fizzle out)
Phish AGREED!
Bright Eyes AGREED
Dave Matthews Band POSSIBLY
Elliott Smith AGREED
The Flaming Lips POSSIBLY
Rage Against The Machine AGREED
Green Day AGREED
Blink 182 AGREED
Kanye West POSSIBLY
Jay-Z AGREED
Puff Daddy/P. Diddy/Diddy AGREED
Notorious BIG AGREED
Tupac DEFINITELY AGREE
Nine Inch Nails AGREED
Marilyn Manson AGREED

lostromanticxx
11/03/05, 02:42 PM
It depends on the person, but here are some bands I would put in the pot of being remembered.in 20 years.


Rage Against The Machine
Greenday
Coldplay
Incubus
311
Slipknot
Reel Big Fish
Less Than Jake
New Found Glory
Now this I totally agree with if Blink 182 was on there as well. Green Day, Reel Big Fish, and Less Than Jake have already been around for a long long time. Green Day is only 10 years shy of making it into the rock and roll hall of fame. New Found Glory will be the Blink 182 successors. Their music progressed and matured at a much slower speed then most bands, and if a band tries to mature too fast people lose interest quickly. I doubt Slipknot will be remembered they're nothing but a stage show. Their music is bad.

So I guess I'll say... Blink 182, Green Day, Cold Play, Less Than Jake, Dashboard Confessional, The Get Up Kids.

A picasso blue
11/03/05, 02:43 PM
thousands of years from now, explorers from another world will find a time capsule and conclude that the Pussycat Dolls were the greatest band of all time

nicoteen
11/03/05, 02:43 PM
Ok I agree that At The Drive In could be still talked about in the next 20 years but that is still stretching it.
I haven't quite read through all the posts but I can't believe Refused weren't mentioned in the first 10 posts. I mean they pretty muched shaped the scene we listen to right now and influenced almost every band we listen to.

I also have to give a shout out to Coheed and Cambria if they keep up the good work

Tony
11/03/05, 02:45 PM
For the masses:
Green Day - Hell, I STILL listen to Dookie from time to time (and wouldn't you know, "Basket Case" just came up on my playlist).
Foo Fighters - They've put out album after album of solid rock.
Rage Against The Machine - Same as Foo Fighters.
Blink 182 - I'm iffy on this one, but I could see them possibly being remembered 20 years down the road, if only because of the sheer number of albums they've sold.

For "us":
Rx Bandits - Actually, they'll likely be forgotten the day after they break up, which is a fucking shame. Some of the best music out there right now!
Brand New - Even if it's just for Deja Entendu, this band will be remembered for some time to come.
At The Drive-In - They broke up 6 years ago and people still talk about them. Only 14 years to go!
Against Me! - They've made some of the most fiercely original punk music I've ever heard.

I'm sure I'll think of more later.

thesynapse
11/03/05, 02:46 PM
For the masses:
Green Day - Hell, I STILL listen to Dookie from time to time (and wouldn't you know, "Basket Case" just came up on my playlist).
Foo Fighters - They've put out album after album of solid rock.
Rage Against The Machine - Same as Foo Fighters.
Blink 182 - I'm iffy on this one, but I could see them possibly being remembered 20 years down the road, if only because of the sheer number of albums they've sold.

For "us":
Rx Bandits - Actually, they'll likely be forgotten the day after they break up, which is a fucking shame. Some of the best music out there right now!
Brand New - Even if it's just for Deja Entendu, this band will be remembered for some time to come.
At The Drive-In - They broke up 6 years ago and people still talk about them. Only 14 years to go!
Against Me! - They've made some of the most fiercely original punk music I've ever heard.

I'm sure I'll think of more later.
RXB. Definitely agree with everything you just said about them.

And I'm still saying Steel Train.

brutusUbastard
11/03/05, 02:49 PM
Ok I agree that At The Drive In could be still talked about in the next 20 years but that is still stretching it.
I haven't quite read through all the posts but I can't believe Refused weren't mentioned in the first 10 posts. I mean they pretty muched shaped the scene we listen to right now and influenced almost every band we listen to.

I also have to give a shout out to Coheed and Cambria if they keep up the good work
I totally agree with Refused. Refused will always keep a cult like status. The only thing hurting them is that their small catalog. If not for that, Refused would have been on the level of Rage Against the Machine.

GlobesandSoCo
11/03/05, 02:50 PM
I think anything Andrew McMahon has and will in the future comes out with will be remembered, because he's probably the best lyricist of our generation (him and Talib Kweli, but those are two totally different genres). Everything Andrew does is better than what's been done before, there's no such thing as "filler" on an album that he creates.

nicoteen
11/03/05, 02:51 PM
if there is any truth to what Tom says then I must say....Angels and Airwaves!!!

I wouldn't put it past him...

and Travis will always be remembered...this generations Keith Moon?

Blink 182 and (hopefully) Angels and Airwaves but that is yet to be seen.

Travis Barker will definately still be talked about as one of our generations greatest drummers.

duffe
11/03/05, 02:52 PM
duffe will be remembered 20 years from now.
:redface:

snowtires
11/03/05, 02:53 PM
perfect.

i can't find his post so i'm replying to yours. that's exactly it. the influence pool has become so incestuous that there are almost no new avenues to affect people. band x is influenced by band y, band y is influenced by band x. people are trying to sound too much like their influences and not enough like themselves.

DroppedUrPocket
11/03/05, 02:53 PM
:redface:

:wow:

hockey0001
11/03/05, 02:53 PM
i didnt feel like reading 17 pages of replies so i dont know if these bands have been discussed

incubus, radiohead, coldplay i think definately will

green day and blink, probably but not sure

coheed and brand new, hopefully

The Coalition
11/03/05, 02:54 PM
thats a great point. now that i think about it a lot of bands in this scene that i've talked to either like mogwai or Sigur Ros. Dallas Taylor's, Maylene and the Sons of Disaster, side project Everret is influenced by Sigur Ros. I also see many other bands list mogwai in either bands they listen to (Finch/ Brand New) or bands they would like to tour with (Dillinger Escape Plan). Both bands will be remembered a long time, but your on the dot saying Sigur Ros will be the bigger. I wish I could have gone to that concert when they came to Atlanta. That would have been the best concert of my life, no contest.

Went to the show in LA at Hollywood Bowl, absolutely amazing experience. If you get the chance again to see them, do whatever it takes.