Ace Enders and a Million Different People - When I Hit the Ground

[Tony Pascarella]

Ace Enders and a Million Different People – When I Hit the Ground
Release Date: March 17, 2009
Record Label: Vagrant Records

Ace Enders, best known for his work with former Drive-Thru Records anchor The Early November, returns to the table with When I Hit the Ground, (technically) his debut full-length as Ace Enders and a Million Different People. He released an 8-song record, The Secret Wars, for free in mid-2008. The new album is a mix of his old work with a few new tricks brought to the table, some more successfully than others. Unfortunately, this highly-anticipated album, filled with earnest pop rock music, fails in both technical execution and lasting value.

Enders kicks off When I Hit the Ground with "Reintroduction," a song which burns a promising start by devolving into a distorted mess. It doesn't get much better by transitioning into a harder rocking track, "Take the Money and Run," in which the whole song sounds rather flat as Enders' vocals do not remotely mesh well with the music behind them. Through the first half of the album, there end up a few more misses ("The Only Thing I Have" and the title track) than hits. However, "New Guitar" is a cleanly executed step forward from Enders' old acoustic side project, I Can Make a Mess Like Nobody's Business, and the previously-released "Reaction" remains an excellent addition to any Ace Enders record. The song is upbeat and charming, coupling a bouncy hook with strong harmonies to lead into another pop ditty, "Sweeter Light." If you're not into whoa-oh's, you'll definitely want to pass it by, but there's something oddly entrancing about the track.

"SOS" takes a mid-tempo stab at anybody who's still listening and seems to do fairly well. The instrumentation on "Where Do We Go from Here" is some of the strongest on the album, with captivating guitar riffs and one of the most musically adventurous arrangements on When I Hit the Ground. You'd think that would make for a great song, right? Wrong. Ace's vocals are forced and uninteresting, and certainly not fitting a track that yearns to do as much as this one does. "Emergency" too has a brush with greatness but it ends up so down-tempo that the listener will have to fight tears of boredom before the singer is done with the verses. "Bring Back Love," is a retread from The Secret Wars, given a facelift and it becomes apparent shortly into the song that those who enjoyed the stripped pop song previously will declare it a tragically botched makeover. The song, now a rocker, suffers from vocals delivered so slowly that it destroys every chance the song had of being a catchy hit, which is quite the running theme.

When I Hit the Ground suffers from plenty of problems, including generic vocal delivery, poor song arrangement, and simply the lack of many memorable songs. Taking a broadly upbeat musical approach, Enders' album seems intent on tiptoeing around the point, never quite thrilling listeners, and offering plenty more disappointing tracks than redeeming ones. What should have been Ace Enders' triumphant return to the hearts of pop-rock fans ends up with listeners slogging through the mud hoping to find something to remember him by. When Enders hits the ground, he sure does it hard. There's nothing left to bury him with.
1. Reintroduction
2. Take the Money and Run
3. New Guitar
4. The Only Thing I Have (The Sign)
5. When I Hit the Ground
6. Reaction
7. Sweeter Light
8. SOS
9. Over This
10. Where Do We Go from Here
11. Emergency
12. Leader
13. Bring Back Love
14. Can't Run AwayBuy on iTunes (http://click.linksynergy.com/fs-bin/stat?id=PjIvm57kicI&offerid=146261&type=3&subid=0&tmpid=1826&RD_PARM1=http%253A%252F%252Fitunes. apple.com%252FWebObjects%252FMZStor e.woa%252Fwa%252FviewAlbum%253Fi%25 3D307852118%2526id%253D307852107%25 26s%253D143441%2526partnerId%253D30 ) | Myspace (http://www.myspace.com/aceendersandamilliondifferentpeople )

[allhollows86]

When Enders hits the ground, he sure does it hard. There's nothing left to bury him with.

great line

[cereal4life]

Y'och! Wait for the backlash, Tony.

[Gloxx]

i disagree with this review. the album is great.

[Everiggs]

I don't think this record is an all-time great, but it's better than your overall rating.

[matt_garland]

I'm gonna have to disagree. Sure it doesnt do what ICMAMLNB did for me but its still a really solid album and miles above any other pop punk formulaic band I've ever heard. Ace is a fantastic songwriter and i think that although they're may be some fillers, he has made a really accesible and decent rock record. It disgusts me that bands like All time low can sit comfortably in every thirteen year olds cd collection when a great pop rock record like this will probably be shrugged off because ace hasnt dropped any txt slang or high school grammar into his lyrics. As much as i appreciate the writing content of your review, i disagree. I cant wait to see Ace play these live in the UK sometime.

[jrtbighurt]

I've seen worse albums get a better rating than 46%. I actually think this album is quite good.

[fadedmemories]

Well written review, though this certainly deserves more than 46%.

[mmitrick]

Strongly Disagree, This album is really solid. Far better than 95% of the crap that comes out lately. I have never been disappointed with any release from Ace, great musician.

[Tony Pascarella]

When Enders hits the ground, he sure does it hard. There's nothing left to bury him with.

great lineThank you.

I'm gonna have to disagree. Sure it doesnt do what ICMAMLNB did for me but its still a really solid album and miles above any other pop punk formulaic band I've ever heard. Ace is a fantastic songwriter and i think that although they're may be some fillers, he has made a really accesible and decent rock record. It disgusts me that bands like All time low can sit comfortably in every thirteen year olds cd collection when a great pop rock record like this will probably be shrugged off because ace hasnt dropped any txt slang or high school grammar into his lyrics. As much as i appreciate the writing content of your review, i disagree. I cant wait to see Ace play these live in the UK sometime.If you want a really good pop rock album, go download The Damnwells' new record for free here (http://www.thedamnwells.com). Ace's new one just doesn't measure up to stuff like that.

I've seen worse albums get a better rating than 46%. I actually think this album is quite good.From me? Not every staffer rates the same here, first of all, and the number really doesn't matter in the overall scheme of things.

However since you brought it up, let's split hairs here.

I liked let's just say 5 songs out of 14. That's 36%. Thus you could say I overrated it. That shows you just how much the number really doesn't matter. :shrug:

Well written review, though this certainly deserves more than 46%.Thank you, but see above. The system asks us to put in numbers for the categories listed, and it does the math. I mean, I could do the IGN method of how the sum of parts does not add up to the actual final score, but in the end, it's still just a number. The review is out there to say, "Hey, this was a really disappointing record and I wouldn't really recommend it to anyone."

[Merkin]

Didn't see this coming, I don't know, I just don't think I agree on most of the comments. Maybe it's just because I love Ace and I can't see it.
I've been listening to it for 2 straight weeks, that's at least a 5 lasting value for me...

[thursday8605]

i have listened to ace since he has been around. This album is horrible compared to what I thought I was going to get. I have to completely agree with this review. No track really stands out and everything is just ....... there.

[thursday8605]

solid review man.

[Alexx Miller]

I couldn't disagree more, I loved this album.:shrug:
I can understand when you say his vocals aren't fitting though. I used to think that about all of his music until it finally just grew on me. Despite my disagreement, well written review.

[trappedintime]

Awkward. After all the positivity that Ace has gotten from AP, it was weird that this got such a low score. But whatever, I don't really like this band.

[fadedmemories]

Thank you, but see above. The system asks us to put in numbers for the categories listed, and it does the math. I mean, I could do the IGN method of how the sum of parts does not add up to the actual final score, but in the end, it's still just a number. The review is out there to say, "Hey, this was a really disappointing record and I wouldn't really recommend it to anyone."
Thanks for clarifying.

[bloodyr0mance87]

that review totally disappointed me. i was really looking forward to this record. now i'm hesitant to pick it up.

[arcarsenal72]

Nice review, but I have to disagree. I found some of the departures from form interesting, and overall his vocal deliveries made what could be a "meh" album, into a good one.

[TheFallenAngel]

The rating system on this website needs to have one more feature, and that is building in another stat to balance things out between reviewers. I know Joe hands out low 80's like they're candy on halloween but Blake usually doesn't give things higher then a 72, same with some other guys. That being said, well written review, Ace does nothing for me

[redfalcon431]

I thought this album was pretty solid overall, it deserves a better score

[Kbm600]

Agreed.

[Sak]

Harsh! The album is pretty good -- in fact it made me go out and check out TEN -- so that made it worth it.

[Badgers08]

Yikes. A reviewer finally uses part of the review scale other than the 70-85% range and it's on an album I really like. It was well written but I could not disagree with your review (and score) more. I thought that last line was a little harsh.

Oh well, to each his own. I wanna hear another reviewers opinion on this album.

BTW. before people go pointing out albums that are not in the scale I listed above... I realize there are albums outside those scores, but the vast majority of album scores always seem to fall in between those numbers

[RustyxDrums]

Haven't heard it yet.
I'm going to pick it up soon though.

[nicolerork]

This is one of the best albums this so far this year. This review is way off.

[radiofriendly]

his music has been boring since before early november even broke up. ambitious on all counts, sure, but i thought this review was spot on.

[reissgoespunk]

This is one of the best albums this so far this year. This review is way off.
Agreed.

[sumcorporate911]

good review, album wasnt very good. i cant beleive the same guy who changed my life with icmam wrote this

[Un'Aria Ancora]

As much as I love everything he has done in the past, this is definitely his weakest album. It definitely has it's shining moments, but it has just as many dull ones. Sadly. I do love the secret wars and Australian EP though, what happened? SOS is probably my favorite song from this, or When I Hit The Ground.

[Vanilla Bear]

i agree the second part of the album has its weak points, but i find it hard to believe no one can get anything out of the first seven songs or so. to each their own i guess, but this is rather harsh.

[ACA]

The inherent problem with a 1-100% scale is that most people grew up with 70 or lower meaning "fail" in school. Thus, scores tend to stick between 70 and 100.

The review was pretty well written (Tony, you're definitely well-ahead of many of your staff peers in terms of writing ability). I haven't heard the album, but I'll check it out later.

I really think AP.net would benefit from some sort of reviewer consistency for scores, but more importantly AP.net would benefit from a move away from 1-100. Letter grading might be more accurate. It seems you would rate this album a "D"-ish rating, which may be more indicative of how you feel versus a "46%". Likewise, it allows albums to be compared more easily.. such as perhaps rating two good albums as "B+" versus one being 89% and one being 85%. It just may be more accurate.

-ACA

[Christian Otte]

Ace Enders is the most boring man in the scene right now.

[drivethru715]

To each his own but this album really did it for me. If you even remotely liked The Secret Wars I really encourage you to check out this album.

[saving jonathan]

Eh, what are ya gonna do? Ya know?

That's kind of how I feel about this record. Love TEN. Love Ace. Loved The Secret Wars.
This one I just can't really get into.

[UnderMyDreams]

i'm going to get in here with everyone else:

I think its a pretty solid album and I love it. I like pretty much every song, but I guess its a matter of preference...

[wheresfluffy?]

I agree with the members rating maybe not the beat album ever but a solid album to listen to I enjoy album

[hayz1887]

You gave the vocals a 4. That is a pretty critical assessment. Even if the album is written for a more mainstream audience you would be hard pressed to find another artist with the vocal demonstration of ace. What is more impressive about him is that he is one of the few artists that actually can back it up his vocals live and is not a studio artist.

This album does fall short of expectations but that is more because most of the songs have already been heard on the secret wars, or demoed previously. The listener therefore can compare the two products but his or her ear is already trained to initial recording making the re-recorded version weaker. This is shown in Over This with new chorus. Even I find the newer chorus to be less fitting.

The album should fall in the mid to high 70's with score. I think this record shows where he wants to go with his music. Whether you guys like it or not he is gonna do what he wants musically and the highly emotional sound of his previous works (the room is too cold) is not coming back. I disagree with you claiming that SOS is a good song on the cd as well. That is one of the weaker songs as it sounds like a bside from MAE - Destination Beautiful. Ultimately this review is pretty far off. Those that read this review should not take much from it. The album is driven to a mainstream audience but has aspects of classical enders.

[phoenixinflames]

Yeah, this record isn't groundbreaking, but it certainly is enjoyable.

[hardpill]

Honestly, for better or worse... it sounds like an Ace Enders album... He's written catchier hooks for sure, but it's not like it's some great departure from his usual bag of songs.

[Yellowcard2006]

So is this better or worse than A Day to Remember's new album homesick? I think your review was well written but I can't agree with the majority of the content. most of the negative claims really don't hold any merit, I can see another person completely disagreeing with everyone of your points. How can you say the vocals don't fit the music? But you opinion I guess, but this is the lowest score I've seen anywhere.

[zubinmoosa]

I actually really like this album. Solid review though.

[Jordachejeans91]

yea im not feeling the review, i really liked the cd

[Gregory Robson]

This album is far from perfect and fairly ordinary to be honest.
Does it deserve the score it received? Probably not.
But so be it. To each their own. It obviously didn't connect with Tony.
Understand that and move on. Don't discredit his opinion just cause you disagree.

[jbenj_indrock]

I'm sorry but I have to disagree with you, specifically when you call "The Only Thing I Have" and the title track "misses." Does the album have issues? Yes, but those two tracks stood out for me.

[patpratt]

fucking ridiculous review. completely average album, i agree. but those scores are fucking ridiculous.

but hey, good for you for tearing down an album just for the sake of it.

[cscwell107]

Ive only listened to the first 7 songs so far. I really liked those. Im guessing things are gonna take a turn for the worst when I listen to the rest of the album.

[jbenj_indrock]

The inherent problem with a 1-100% scale is that most people grew up with 70 or lower meaning "fail" in school. Thus, scores tend to stick between 70 and 100.

The review was pretty well written (Tony, you're definitely well-ahead of many of your staff peers in terms of writing ability). I haven't heard the album, but I'll check it out later.

I really think AP.net would benefit from some sort of reviewer consistency for scores, but more importantly AP.net would benefit from a move away from 1-100. Letter grading might be more accurate. It seems you would rate this album a "D"-ish rating, which may be more indicative of how you feel versus a "46%". Likewise, it allows albums to be compared more easily.. such as perhaps rating two good albums as "B+" versus one being 89% and one being 85%. It just may be more accurate.

-ACA
The problem in general is with any type of scoring on reviews, its impossible to determine the difference between say an 84 or an 89. I mean, what really made it 5% better? Same thing with letter scores, what makes it a B-plus, as opposed to a B, and how close is that to becoming an A?

The best reviews system I've ever seen was Kotaku's, where they simply say what they liked, and what they didn't like.

[trustmeimokay]

I totally agree with this review. Ace's songwriting ability has regressed and this album shows that, and thus the rating is justified.

[Paulb-182]

Ace hasnt put out anything good since the rooms too cold. there i said it.

The Mother, Mechanic and Path had a few okay songs, but nothing brilliant

[Broclee]

I absolutely love this album, I disagree with a lot of your points. However, I can respect your opinion. I just felt like you were trying to be overly critical. You made it clear you didn't like, then proceeded to pummel relentlessly, just in case we didn't get it. At least, that's how it came off to me.

[blinkme]

don't agree but i respect your opinion.

[smokeanL]

i could say that this record doesnt have much of a lasting effect...but do think it deserves more than a 46%.

[hcky0819]

i disagree as well. this is definitely not his strongest effort, however, it does not warrant a 46%. one less person to buy a ticket i assume = one more for me <3

[brentkid]

It's a pretty ordinary album but a 4 for vocals is ridiculous.

[elaina]

wow......

[IamTheINDUSTRY]

the vocals are better than you gave them. the album as a whole though - not.

[justrockthesock]

I have to disagree with this review, yeah it's not an awesome album, It's actually pretty average, I would problably rate it in 65% overall,that's just me...but I do have to agree when you say, that this album is nothing compared to The Damnwells "One Last Century", their new album is gold, they really should get more attention...they sure deserve it...giving albums for free is not a very easy thing for a small band like them...It's really weird how they've played with some of the biggest bands out there, and still haven't got any attention...

[absolution]

considerable difference between member rating and staff rating. haven't seen such disparity before

[ship of fools]

Fail.

[michael6820]

if you can rate an album like this at 46%, id like to see what you rate all the other terrible records that are hyped on this website. and ps...take the money and run, pretty sure ace sang shitty on the chorus on purpose. he probably did it in one take cuz thats exactly what the labels would NOT want him to do, so he did it cuz he doesnt give a shit about money or fame. he stays true to his art which is really rare these days...so to your review i say.....POOP

[Skees]

With a few small differences in opinion, I pretty much agree with this review. The CD was a disappointment at best. Nothing memorable, and after the first few spins I don't see it ever really getting played again.

[timba88]

This album is so much better than a 46%, Metro Station got a 78% by this website. Are you kidding me? Metro station scored over 30% better than Ace Enders. What the fuck.

This album is not a 90% or maybe even an 80% type of record, but it's solid. Ace has the ability to make even the most simple lyrics seem so personal. The simplicity sometimes of his music is what makes him so great I think.

[twarkyle]

Album is great, that's why people shouldn't take reviews to heart. People should make their own opinions.

[Blakebear]

Very well written review.

[blimpcityhero11]

I respectfully disagree with this review.

[dpetty21]

I'm completely in love with this album.

[Ollie McKraut]

The title track brings tears to my eyes, it does

[roju]

if you can rate an album like this at 46%, id like to see what you rate all the other terrible records that are hyped on this website. and ps...take the money and run, pretty sure ace sang shitty on the chorus on purpose. he probably did it in one take cuz thats exactly what the labels would NOT want him to do, so he did it cuz he doesnt give a shit about money or fame. he stays true to his art which is really rare these days...so to your review i say.....POOP

ok, so you've established he doesn't give a shit about money or fame. but what about music? to sing it bad on purpose just to "stick it to the record labels" is just plain stupid. think about it.


i don't mind the score, he's one of the few reviewers on this site who will give below 60. good for you, Tony!

[Yellowcard2006]

that review totally disappointed me. i was really looking forward to this record. now i'm hesitant to pick it up.
Then I suggest reading this: http://thealbumproject.net/2009/02/full-review-ace-enders-and-a-million-different-people-when-i-hit-the-ground/ And if that doesn't convince you, listen to some sample on itunes. I got this record on day one, it's excellent.

[thecobrakais]

music is so subjective and i respect that you didn't like it. everyone has their own opinions, but i will have to strongly disagree with this review. this album is really great and, to me, has some of the best songs ace has ever written.

i can understand not liking an album, but that last line was just wrong. show respect.

[HashHolly]

if you can rate an album like this at 46%, id like to see what you rate all the other terrible records that are hyped on this website. and ps...take the money and run, pretty sure ace sang shitty on the chorus on purpose. he probably did it in one take cuz thats exactly what the labels would NOT want him to do, so he did it cuz he doesnt give a shit about money or fame. he stays true to his art which is really rare these days...so to your review i say.....POOP
That has to be the worst excuse i have ever seen for shitty vocals on this site.

[Tony Pascarella]

I absolutely love this album, I disagree with a lot of your points. However, I can respect your opinion. I just felt like you were trying to be overly critical. You made it clear you didn't like, then proceeded to pummel relentlessly, just in case we didn't get it. At least, that's how it came off to me.See, here's the thing--if I make it clear I don't like it, and then leave it, people say I didn't support the argument. If I do what I did, people say I beat the album to death. :shrug:

i disagree as well. this is definitely not his strongest effort, however, it does not warrant a 46%. one less person to buy a ticket i assume = one more for me <3I've seen Ace live with the new project and I was impressed. He's definitely better live than on CD.

I have to disagree with this review, yeah it's not an awesome album, It's actually pretty average, I would problably rate it in 65% overall,that's just me...but I do have to agree when you say, that this album is nothing compared to The Damnwells "One Last Century", their new album is gold, they really should get more attention...they sure deserve it...giving albums for free is not a very easy thing for a small band like them...It's really weird how they've played with some of the biggest bands out there, and still haven't got any attention...Nice to see another fan of The Damnwells on here. I love the band too much to try to objectively review it here or I would. The new album is fantastic.

if you can rate an album like this at 46%, id like to see what you rate all the other terrible records that are hyped on this website. and ps...take the money and run, pretty sure ace sang shitty on the chorus on purpose. he probably did it in one take cuz thats exactly what the labels would NOT want him to do, so he did it cuz he doesnt give a shit about money or fame. he stays true to his art which is really rare these days...so to your review i say.....POOPYou might want to stop sipping the Kool-Aid, my friend. I can't stand most of the albums that are hyped here, and that's fine--the idea is to try to have as diverse of a staff as we can. If you're interested in playing that game, throw out some albums.

As for the Kool-Aid, he sang shittily on purpose? I rated it poorly on purpose. I mean you can't put a record out there for review and then use the excuse of I fucked it up on purpose. That's ridiculous and totally unfounded. I never said he cared about money or fame. I just said that for an artist that has the potential and talent to do much better, this album is a huge letdown for me. I would love to know where your statements come from because I got a good laugh out of how ridiculous they are.

With a few small differences in opinion, I pretty much agree with this review. The CD was a disappointment at best. Nothing memorable, and after the first few spins I don't see it ever really getting played again.Pretty much how I feel. I'll stick with The Secret Wars for the better version of Bring Back Love. I can't really see myself coming back to this album much if at all later this year.

This album is so much better than a 46%, Metro Station got a 78% by this website. Are you kidding me? Metro station scored over 30% better than Ace Enders. What the fuck.

This album is not a 90% or maybe even an 80% type of record, but it's solid. Ace has the ability to make even the most simple lyrics seem so personal. The simplicity sometimes of his music is what makes him so great I think.Here we go again. Who reviewed the Metro Station record? Not me; it was Joe DeAndrea. I cannot stand that band (Metro Station) one bit, so if you're going to sit here and try to argue scores (again, which I will say til I'm blue in the face don't really matter), at least compare apples to apples. Most of our staff does not use the lower 50% of a ratings scale. I do. You guys need to grasp that concept and look through some of my previous reviews. I have given scores much lower and will continue to do so.

Very well written review.Thank you.

[denissuxx]

Awful review.

[ilovesofie]

This isn't a bad album, it has some good songs, this deserves at least 60%.

[Rest_Easy]

woa! I do like the review itself as it provides reasoning for his distaste but I have to completely disagree.
It seems the major tiff the reviewer has with this album are Ace's vocals. I thought he sounded great and that he did indeed mesh with a number of songs very well. If anything Ace Enders has never sounded better showing greater range and near flawless execution.

Here vocals go hand in hand with lasting value as if you don't like the tone of his voice you will not listen again. Lyrics are probably spot on. Production... not sure how you score that I mean death cab wants to record onto tape does that lower the production? If something sounds extremely shiny to the near point of over production (auto tune) does that get a 10? It has a nice raw sound I enjoy.
I wonder what would this score translate to in another reviewer's eyes/ears?

[hcky0819]

See, here's the thing--if I make it clear I don't like it, and then leave it, people say I didn't support the argument. If I do what I did, people say I beat the album to death. :shrug:

I've seen Ace live with the new project and I was impressed. He's definitely better live than on CD.

Nice to see another fan of The Damnwells on here. I love the band too much to try to objectively review it here or I would. The new album is fantastic.

You might want to stop sipping the Kool-Aid, my friend. I can't stand most of the albums that are hyped here, and that's fine--the idea is to try to have as diverse of a staff as we can. If you're interested in playing that game, throw out some albums.

As for the Kool-Aid, he sang shittily on purpose? I rated it poorly on purpose. I mean you can't put a record out there for review and then use the excuse of I fucked it up on purpose. That's ridiculous and totally unfounded. I never said he cared about money or fame. I just said that for an artist that has the potential and talent to do much better, this album is a huge letdown for me. I would love to know where your statements come from because I got a good laugh out of how ridiculous they are.

Pretty much how I feel. I'll stick with The Secret Wars for the better version of Bring Back Love. I can't really see myself coming back to this album much if at all later this year.

Here we go again. Who reviewed the Metro Station record? Not me; it was Joe DeAndrea. I cannot stand that band (Metro Station) one bit, so if you're going to sit here and try to argue scores (again, which I will say til I'm blue in the face don't really matter), at least compare apples to apples. Most of our staff does not use the lower 50% of a ratings scale. I do. You guys need to grasp that concept and look through some of my previous reviews. I have given scores much lower and will continue to do so.

Thank you.
I agree with you here sir. he is fantastic live.

[MKEcasey]

I loved this record. Ace delivered on this, in my opinion.

[owiseone35]

Listened to the myspace and thought it was pretty bad. I agree that his voice doesn't fit with the musicianship a lot. I miss The Early November.

[Badgers08]

The inherent problem with a 1-100% scale is that most people grew up with 70 or lower meaning "fail" in school. Thus, scores tend to stick between 70 and 100.

The review was pretty well written (Tony, you're definitely well-ahead of many of your staff peers in terms of writing ability). I haven't heard the album, but I'll check it out later.

I really think AP.net would benefit from some sort of reviewer consistency for scores, but more importantly AP.net would benefit from a move away from 1-100. Letter grading might be more accurate. It seems you would rate this album a "D"-ish rating, which may be more indicative of how you feel versus a "46%". Likewise, it allows albums to be compared more easily.. such as perhaps rating two good albums as "B+" versus one being 89% and one being 85%. It just may be more accurate.

-ACA

I completely agree with this. I have never fully understood the rating system here and I've commented a few times on it. Like I said in my previous post in this review, everything seems to be within 15-20% of each other and it really doesn't tell me anything about how good the album is. I think the letter system would be a good one. Still rate the album the same, but have it spit out a letter rather than a percentage. Maybe click on the letter to reveal the scores of each category or something? Or at least give us some sort of guidance on what the percentages stand for.

Edit: Though, I guess if every album just happens to fall between 65-85%, there's nothing you can do about it. However, I doubt that's the case.

[Mirrorsandfevers]

It's unfortunate, but I agree.

[owiseone35]

Then I suggest reading this: http://thealbumproject.net/2009/02/full-review-ace-enders-and-a-million-different-people-when-i-hit-the-ground/ And if that doesn't convince you, listen to some sample on itunes. I got this record on day one, it's excellent.
The guy also raved about the new FM static of which I can't stand as a band. People all have different tastes give the man a break so he hates an album. I'm sure there are album you can't stand that he listens to.

[Badgers08]

The guy also raved about the new FM static of which I can't stand as a band. People all have different tastes give the man a break so he hates an album. I'm sure there are album you can't stand that he listens to.
Thank you. Most people, for whatever reason, cannot seem to grasp this concept.

[mallyland]

I don't think you listened to this album enough. I listened to it for well over a month before I sat down to write my review, and while I didn't love it, it's a good album.

Edit: People need to realize this isn't The Early November. It's Ace Enders & A Million Different People not Ace Enders & The Early November.

[Lost Glories]

completely disagree.

[PoisonInMyVeins]

I'm glad you use the lower 50% during reviews. I'm tired of coming on this site and seeing nothing but 70% scores and above for subpar albums.

[Alex DiVincenzo]

I certainly wasn't expecting such a low score but at least you explained you reasoning.

[RamInGoreville]

I also disagree, I really love this album.

Great review though.,

[Drew Beringer]

good review Tony, I agree this record is boring.

[TheFallenAngel]

I said this earlier but to expand on it a little, AP should look at the average score for all the reviews on the website by active staff members and get the true average score for an album on this website. Then find each individual reviewers average, and then have an adjustment to the final score. So for example, this review would probably been in the low 60s if they factored that in. Likewise, joes metro station review would be in the 60s as well. They can show the original score and the weighted score, everyone wins

My two cents

[loveisdead]

It's way better than you've given him credit for.

[Trevor Sostarich]

I actually really like this album.

[spansen]

oh, come on, it's better than that.

[Klatzke]

Fully disagree with this. It is kind of monotonous, but I think it deserves higher than a 40%.

[MikeSmith]

it has its weaknesses, but its still a good listenn.

[Yellowcard2006]

The guy also raved about the new FM static of which I can't stand as a band. People all have different tastes give the man a break so he hates an album. I'm sure there are album you can't stand that he listens to.
I only wrote that message for someone else that was conflicted about the review and whether the album is worthy of a purchase. I understand Tony can feel however he likes about anything.

[Broclee]

See, here's the thing--if I make it clear I don't like it, and then leave it, people say I didn't support the argument. If I do what I did, people say I beat the album to death. :shrug:

I understand, I just...I don't know, I felt like there was the complete intent of putting this record and Ace down in their entirety, which I'm sure wasn't your intention, and is probably just my interpretation. As I said, I'm a fan of the record, which is part of why I feel this way, I'm sure. I just felt it was very one-sided toward negativity.

Before you respond, though, I'm aware that you pointed out good things with the record in the review, just making it clear.

Just my two-cents on your review. I just might write my own, though.

[lostfear]

I do not agree. I love this record and think it has some really really strong tracks.

[zFrog]

I only liked 2 songs of this record, completely agree with this review

[Colin1755]

idk what the fuck this guy is talking about, ace puts out good stuff and i really am enjoying this album, people have to realize the stuff he's doing now is a little softer than t.e.n.

[brianpaulie]

I do enjoy the record but the last handful of songs on the CD slow down and get extremely boring. I've ended up skipping around the CD to listen to the better songs.

[Broclee]

idk what the fuck this guy is talking about, ace puts out good stuff and i really am enjoying this album, people have to realize the stuff he's doing now is a little softer than t.e.n.
You need to realize that it's an opinion and he's allowed to have it. I don't agree with his review, but he clearly pointed out his reasoning and the review seems very well thought out.

[briXinRhands]

While I like the album much more than you did, it must be annoying to write an review, have 50 people criticize the numerical scores, explain your rationale for numerical scores, then have 50 more people criticize the scores. Get over it people!

[Colin1755]

You need to realize that it's an opinion and he's allowed to have it. I don't agree with his review, but he clearly pointed out his reasoning and the review seems very well thought out.
i guess so, but you don't take low blows at the guy just because u don't like his music ex:when ace hits the ground he hits it hard... and whatever else he said in that statement because thats not right

[jbenj_indrock]

While I like the album much more than you did, it must be annoying to write an review, have 50 people criticize the numerical scores, explain your rationale for numerical scores, then have 50 more people criticize the scores. Get over it people!
You can never win when writing reviews, you'll always offend someone. Its not the reviewers fault either, everyone has a different scoring system. If you look at it on a 100 point scale, my 90 is going to be different from your 90 and someone else's 90. You just cant win when scoring reviews, because the numbers always mean something different to whoever reads them.

[Colin1755]

i don't think its boring at all though the last track on this album is one of my favorites and i think the rock version of bring back love is also really really well thought out and good

[Broclee]

i guess so, but you don't take low blows at the guy just because u don't like his music ex:when ace hits the ground he hits it hard... and whatever else he said in that statement because thats not right
That's fair, but you didn't mention that at all before.

[RiskyXBandit]

i absolutely love this review. finally, someone who is brutally honest about how ace fails to deliver.

in order to understand this review, you need to take ace off of the pedestal that you have placed him upon, and then listen to the album as if you never heard of ace enders before. just because he brought you the early november does not mean that everything he does is going to be good.

i heard this album with no expectations in mind. i turned it off after the 6th track due to boredom. this album never hit the ground. if it were to hit the ground, i'd have to buy it and then throw it out instantly.

[Colin1755]

im jw where you ever a fan of ten?

[chrstianrocker]

I respect your opinion but I have to disagree. I loved "Reintroduction", "Take the Money and Run", "Sweeter Light", "Emergency", and "Can't Run Away". The others were okay. Overall I thought this was a good pop album, and is on par with The Secret Wars. Check the record out before you let this review discourage you from buying it!

[Colin1755]

I respect your opinion but I have to disagree. I loved "Reintroduction", "Take the Money and Run", "Sweeter Light", "Emergency", and "Can't Run Away". The others were okay. Overall I thought this was a good pop album, and is on par with The Secret Wars. Check the record out before you let this review discourage you from buying it!
exactly.

[HometownHero]

I agree 100%. What a sad sad effort

[Colin1755]

i really can't believe how many people dislike this but for every one who's a hater there like 10 people who like it so thats like a ten to one ratio.

[drudo182]

Overall, I really like this record. Surprised it got such low marks.

[billyboatkid]

I completely agree with your review.

Only about 5 good songs.

I wish he would "make a mess" again. Best side project ever

[logantogovcentr]

yeah, i think this record is a disappointing effort. i don't think i was looking for anything particularly spectacular, but i'm never going to say that ace isn't a talented dude. it just seems like the record as a whole lacked cohesiveness, and a lot of the songs were downright boring and predictable. i mean, i understand that "pop" music often times is built from a very similar equation - verse, chorus, verse, chorus, bridge, chorus, blah blah blah. i suppose i was expected something from this guy that superceded those precedents, but it just wasn't there. the record is quite bland. and i was even moreso disappointed after hearing the first track, which i enjoyed (though i did not enjoy it's abrupt ending), and i was hoping the record would blast into something with more integrity, but it really didn't.

the record isn't bad. at all. it's just disappointing because there's a LOT left to be desired. i thought the review summed up how i felt. i wanted this record to blow my socks off. i really did. it just didn't.

[buttons]

i really can't believe how many people dislike this but for every one who's a hater there like 10 people who like it so thats like a ten to one ratio.
haha, ten. heh. pun.

[Colin1755]

hah no pun intended, at first

[zombie!pirate!]

great review. I agree entirely

[paidtomakegirls]

first, i think the new album is great...ive really enjoyed listenin to it and think that the majority of the tracks are both good performances by ace and show a more polished side of him

how low this album scored on the rating and what people are saying about it show that theres something wrong with the rating system here at AP. it shouldnt be the job of AP readers to know the preferences and musical tastes of various readers...the whole point of the rating scale is to give some reference to both user ratings and other albums rated. you cant just say, "oh well i generally rate lower" because it doesnt give any context. i understand people differ in what they like, but it needs to be more objective

[Sic Transit Zeb]

This album is far from perfect and fairly ordinary to be honest.
Does it deserve the score it received? Probably not.
But so be it. To each their own. It obviously didn't connect with Tony.
Understand that and move on. Don't discredit his opinion just cause you disagree.
If everyone took that attitude we'd still be in the stone ages. Disagreements keep this site and the world thriving and as long as they are not terribly personal I don't see the problem.

[adumb]

I simply could not agree more with this review. I went into this album as a huge fan of TEN and I really wanted/expected to love it. However, I found it completely lacking in almost every way.

For starters, it is WAY overproduced. The gloss on every track is just too much to handle, even for pop music. Second, it seems that the chorus on several songs just doesn't deliver melodically, and the same can be said for the uninspired melodies in the verses. Third, as the reviewer mentioned, the track sequencing is awful. This usually doesn't bother me but the album just seems like some random mixtape.

I definitely am not giving up on Ace because there are still some strong tracks here, but I just see this as a misstep in an otherwise excellent songwriting career. It's tough to truly hate anything Ace does because he does it with such conviction and honesty that it always warrants a listen with an open mind. I totally respect him as a songwriter and I will always check out everything he does in the future.

Every artist can stumble a bit, and I suspect that Ace will continue to evolve and will get through these "growing pains."

[Koes]

This record met all of my expectations because I was not expecting another TEN or ICMAMLNB record. It is a pop-friendly record that is a breath of fresh air in a rather stale genre, hands down. There is not one track on this entire album that doesn't have a chorus that gets stuck in your head and Ace's vocals have never been better. He brings as much emotion as he did with The Rooms Too Cold.

[Mattylikesfilms]

gonna have to disagree. Iwas listening to take the money and run then I saw a review up and expected a 80 something percent. Craaaaazy.


It's not ground breaking but it's solid


74% imo

[ind1ekid]

However, "New Guitar" is a cleanly executed step forward from Enders' old acoustic side project,
That track not being on the album would have been the step forward!
I have to disagree with the review, although some songs aren't amazing, theres plenty of enjoyment to be had from the album! Certainly more than a few memorable songs too! Deserves alot more credit than its been given in this review! :(

[Shrillex]

I haven't listened to it but i know Ace Enders deserves more than a 46%

[SomedayTheFire]

I assume you are using the 40-55% = D scoring system. If so I completely agree with this review, well written and fairly judged.

[stdfly]

I simply could not agree more with this review. I went into this album as a huge fan of TEN and I really wanted/expected to love it. However, I found it completely lacking in almost every way.

For starters, it is WAY overproduced. The gloss on every track is just too much to handle, even for pop music. Second, it seems that the chorus on several songs just doesn't deliver melodically, and the same can be said for the uninspired melodies in the verses. Third, as the reviewer mentioned, the track sequencing is awful. This usually doesn't bother me but the album just seems like some random mixtape.

I definitely am not giving up on Ace because there are still some strong tracks here, but I just see this as a misstep in an otherwise excellent songwriting career. It's tough to truly hate anything Ace does because he does it with such conviction and honesty that it always warrants a listen with an open mind. I totally respect him as a songwriter and I will always check out everything he does in the future.

Every artist can stumble a bit, and I suspect that Ace will continue to evolve and will get through these "growing pains."
this x100000

accurate review btw

[briXinRhands]

You can never win when writing reviews, you'll always offend someone. Its not the reviewers fault either, everyone has a different scoring system. If you look at it on a 100 point scale, my 90 is going to be different from your 90 and someone else's 90. You just cant win when scoring reviews, because the numbers always mean something different to whoever reads them.
exactly. I think the review itself is enough without the need for scores that mean different things to different people.

[mynameisgeneric]

Wowwwww. I have never disagreed with a review on this site so much.

[Chuck!]

an imperfect album, but 46% is unfair.

[leaving_astoria]

everyone has different opinions about things.
i personally find this album good, nothing extraordinary. the reviewr didnt.
no need for arguing about this...

[xsinkshipsx]

haven't heard this but...thanks for warning me....Secret Wars was legit...so this is disappointing (albeit well written) news

[Snails]

I really wish I disagreed vehemently with you, because I was looking forward to this in a huge way. But after a couple of listens, I think your review may be pretty spot-on. I'll need to give it some more time though.

[mattTLTT]

Thank you.

If you want a really good pop rock album, go download The Damnwells' new record for free here (http://www.thedamnwells.com). Ace's new one just doesn't measure up to stuff like that.

From me? Not every staffer rates the same here, first of all, and the number really doesn't matter in the overall scheme of things.

However since you brought it up, let's split hairs here.

I liked let's just say 5 songs out of 14. That's 36%. Thus you could say I overrated it. That shows you just how much the number really doesn't matter. :shrug:

Thank you, but see above. The system asks us to put in numbers for the categories listed, and it does the math. I mean, I could do the IGN method of how the sum of parts does not add up to the actual final score, but in the end, it's still just a number. The review is out there to say, "Hey, this was a really disappointing record and I wouldn't really recommend it to anyone."
I respect your opinion and think you wrote a good review but i really like the album. I will admit it's starting to wear off on me a little now and i'm not liking it as much anymore. I still would give it like a 80%

[amplifire]

Solid review. I was going to buy it, but I think I'll pass...I had gotten the other album over the summer, and 'Reaction' prooved (sp?) to be my only favorite.

[PunkDrums182]

Ace hasnt put out anything good since the rooms too cold. there i said it.

The Mother, Mechanic and Path had a few okay songs, but nothing brilliant
No fucking way.

and also, I loved this album so i'll have to disagree with Tony.

[PunkDrums182]

haven't heard this but...thanks for warning me....Secret Wars was legit...so this is disappointing (albeit well written) news
I think if you liked secret wars you'll like this, so you should at least give it a shot.

[Tony Pascarella]

I think this might be my most completely polarized review yet. Usually it's one group heavily telling me I'm crazy or agreeing with me, but it's a pretty solid split this time.

[aaronsweatt]

i disagree with this review. the album is great.
did you NOT listen to the early november?

[taylerx0]

I haven't been able to really listen to this album yet, but I'm genuinely surprised the score is so low.

[mattTLTT]

I don't know why everyone is going crazy on the guy for his review, i like the album a lot but it's my taste so if he disagrees it's fine. ALL of the reviewers on this site are no more qualified than anyone else on this site when it comes to reviewing music, it's just all of their opinions so i just take a lot of their reviews with a grain of salt knowing they're not experts.

[Daveyhavok832]

I enjoy this album very much. You're bound to have songs some would cast off as filler on a 14-song album, but honestly we're living in a time where no band thinks twice about having only 10 or eleven songs. I feel like ace is giving us our money's worth. I would also like to say that I don't believe Ace has ever fallen under the category of generic vocal delivery...

[Digitalcursive]

I agree with the review on this one, none of the songs that weren't on The Secret Wars don't really stand out that much to me. I just wasn't feeling this at all sadly =[

[youareallfreaks]

The inherent problem with a 1-100% scale is that most people grew up with 70 or lower meaning "fail" in school. Thus, scores tend to stick between 70 and 100.

The review was pretty well written (Tony, you're definitely well-ahead of many of your staff peers in terms of writing ability). I haven't heard the album, but I'll check it out later.

I really think AP.net would benefit from some sort of reviewer consistency for scores, but more importantly AP.net would benefit from a move away from 1-100. Letter grading might be more accurate. It seems you would rate this album a "D"-ish rating, which may be more indicative of how you feel versus a "46%". Likewise, it allows albums to be compared more easily.. such as perhaps rating two good albums as "B+" versus one being 89% and one being 85%. It just may be more accurate.

-ACA
agree

[XBurnedDesireX]

Good album, good review-but I disagree. Done

[ind1ekid]

Ace hasnt put out anything good since the rooms too cold. there i said it.

The Mother, Mechanic and Path had a few okay songs, but nothing brilliant

Cant agree more with that tbh. That 3 disc album was a massive fail musically ten imo! He redemmed himself with this album though imo!

[nickstetina]

that review totally disappointed me. i was really looking forward to this record. now i'm hesitant to pick it up.
Don't be.

[Rob Hrx]

This is really disheartening - I will give this a listen and hope I react to it differently.

[Shoorty0690]

Oh Reginald, I disagree!!!



This cd is one of my favorites of the year so far. Ace will never disappoint!

[live.]

Thank god somebody else realizes how overrated this album is.

[motek19]

Tony, your awfully stylized word choice ruins this review. Where did you attend college and what did you study? I'm interested because I firmly believe you're under-qualified. Frankly, I think your writing needs work. Your points are unclear. You don't provide explicit examples. Furthermore, you crippled your entire review with immature phrases that are far worse than Ace's music. If you're going to criticize this album, at least learn how to write effectively first. In conclusion, you gave Ace relatively no credit for what he did with this release, and that astounds me. What are you doing? Oh, that's right, you're writing terrible reviews for AP.net while Enders saves people from themselves and the world.

[tarheels4789]

This review is the reason why some suggest we shouldn't have freedom of speech. Garbage review.

[FaceLixeMurder]

This is not a great album but definitely not as bad as the review makes it sound...

[RiskyXBandit]

What are you doing? Oh, that's right, you're writing terrible reviews for AP.net while Enders saves people from themselves and the world.

his review insulted you that much?

go bro-down with some new-jersians and have a circle jerk while listening to this record. after the circle jerk is complete, write us your review. i would love to see how well structured, organized, and complete (3-set) your review is.

ace enders is not saving people and the world. i don't think he has even saved a kitten, brah.

the album is boring. get over it.

[lucygray]

I actually agree with this review. I was stoked for this record, especially since I loved The Secret Wars. Aside from the title track, this album did nothing for me.

[Nick Le]

I really, albeit respectfully, disagree. I really enjoyed this album.

[motek19]

his review insulted you that much?

go bro-down with some new-jersians and have a circle jerk while listening to this record. after the circle jerk is complete, write us your review. i would love to see how well structured, organized, and complete (3-set) your review is.

ace enders is not saving people and the world. i don't think he has even saved a kitten, brah.

the album is boring. get over it.
I attend an Ivy League university. Your comment is a degradation and reflects very little moral character.

I find your argument ridiculous. Obviously, kittens cannot comprehend Enders' music, so how could he save them? After selling "nearly half a million album sales to date," I bet he has effected people more than you know (ap.net). You find his album boring, that's quite alright. However, please do not belittle me with offensive comments. Frankly, I love wasting my life with you, however, I have to study.

[SureAsRain]

i agree with this review
i miss old experimental, fresh, and entertaining ace enders
not the "i want to save the world" pop songs ace enders

[camery182]

im sorry i have to also disagree with this review, he takes an album that starts with a declaration of his disappearance (leaving the early november, going solo, etc) that continues through the cd with great songs such as The Only Thing I Have and ending with the rock version of Bring Back Love and Cant Run Away. Although a little slower that most early november cds he seems to be growing as an artist in showing capabilities outside of generic rock. Listen to it a couple of times and enjoy it. It grows on you fast.

[GamEin]

We all have different tastes people, get used to it.

I think the album rocks.

[jallred11]

I can agree with many points in this review but I still think should have gotten a higher rating. I like the record...I don't love it...but I like it a lot

[late1sunday]

I attend an Ivy League university. Your comment is a degradation and reflects very little moral character.

I find your argument ridiculous. Obviously, kittens cannot comprehend Enders' music, so how could he save them? After selling "nearly half a million album sales to date," I bet he has effected people more than you know (ap.net). You find his album boring, that's quite alright. However, please do not belittle me with offensive comments. Frankly, I love wasting my life with you, however, I have to study.

What does your educational background have to do with anything?

I don't necessarily agree with riskyxbandit's argument either, but you just sound like a pompous asshole. Get over yourself. In case you didn't realize, your comment has a few grammatical errors. Looks like you shouldn't be going to an Ivy League school after all.

[Tony Pascarella]

I attend an Ivy League university. Your comment is a degradation and reflects very little moral character.

I find your argument ridiculous. Obviously, kittens cannot comprehend Enders' music, so how could he save them? After selling "nearly half a million album sales to date," I bet he has effected people more than you know (ap.net). You find his album boring, that's quite alright. However, please do not belittle me with offensive comments. Frankly, I love wasting my life with you, however, I have to study.:hitself:

[Watershipdown82]

I know that some people agree with the review and others disagree, but this review is positive for both sides. I'll admit I didn't listen to this CD yet (I'm planning on it when I have the time to sit down and listen), but the way that you guys are freaking out about the review and insulting Tony, you'd think he took a giant piss on the record just to be an asshole. News flash guys, he didn't. He's doing his job. If artists didn't get their work critiqued, they will never evolve or expand as artists. Yes, you might think that this CD is the greatest thing ever and worship it. But others won't. And know why this review is good? Because it can help Ace Enders learn from his mistakes on this Cd to make a better follow-up album which will satisfy everyone. Just because you don't like to admit their aren't flaws doesn't mean their aren't any.

[handlikesecret]

http://images.nymag.com/images/2/daily/entertainment/08/06/02_mnightshamamamalon_lgl.jpg


WHAT A TWIST!http://media.photobucket.com/image/what%2Ba%2Btwist/pablo_hunny/watermarkphp.jpg

[Remnants]

I agree with this review wholeheartedly!

[caityconundrum]

Nah.

[sargentlgfuad]

i never could get into him, and this review hits all the reasons why.

[sargentlgfuad]

I attend an Ivy League university. Your comment is a degradation and reflects very little moral character.

I find your argument ridiculous. Obviously, kittens cannot comprehend Enders' music, so how could he save them? After selling "nearly half a million album sales to date," I bet he has effected people more than you know (ap.net). You find his album boring, that's quite alright. However, please do not belittle me with offensive comments. Frankly, I love wasting my life with you, however, I have to study.

...and people still think knowledge is power.

[Nolessthanblink]

Shit now I'm almost scared to listen

[Clark]

While I was definitely disappointed by the album, it is not that bad. In my opinion, anyway.

If I had to give him a report card, it would probably be a C+.

[Vanilla Bear]

being that you ranked both cobra starship albums quite higher than this, i'd say people oughta ignore this review and listen for themselves

[caityconundrum]

Shit now I'm almost scared to listen
You shouldn't let anyone's review stop you from giving something a chance. You could feel completely differently about it.

[Stupendous_Man]

I personally find this album to be different from my expectations but in a pleasant way. Sure, it won't be anything I treasure but it shows the potential Ace has from here on out.

[W/O a Parachute]

From me? Not every staffer rates the same here, first of all, and the number really doesn't matter in the overall scheme of things.


Well Tony, this is a good example of how everyone has their own opinion. You expressed yourself quite vividly. It was an entertaining read. I don't feel as if there is an even split in the debate, however. It seems there are many more people who like the album rather than dislike it.

I wholeheartedly Disagreed with your assessment. I find the record thoroughly enjoyable. I was never bored. To me, 'Emergency' did reach that level of greatness you thought possible.

I know this is part of your job, and you should certainly be voicing your opinion. It's just a shame that this will undoubtedly cause some people to refrain from purchasing Ace's album. Tate has made this website into a major platform for people to promote their music, and Ace has been doing that a lot around here. But the review does the complete opposite. It actually chases people away. It's unfortunate. These reviews are pretty powerful here. A lot of people who sit on the fence turn to Staff Reviews before purchasing an album. That 46 might as well be AIDS. Nobody who sees that is going to want to deal with it.

I know every review can't be positive, that would be ridiculous. I guess I just find it disheartening that you were picked to write the review, as it obviously didn't connect with you (or Blake, apparently). His music is good for the scene. As is his etiquette and passion.

It's frustrating. The album is good, people should here it. Most will enjoy it, imo. But i know what you mean, Ace is capable of creating better. This will hold me over until the truly great stuff comes out.

Questions: Have you heard the Australian EP? What are your thoughts on that (in comparison to this)?

[tommy's ghost]

I attend an Ivy League university. Your comment is a degradation and reflects very little moral character.

I find your argument ridiculous. Obviously, kittens cannot comprehend Enders' music, so how could he save them? After selling "nearly half a million album sales to date," I bet he has effected people more than you know (ap.net). You find his album boring, that's quite alright. However, please do not belittle me with offensive comments. Frankly, I love wasting my life with you, however, I have to study.

Ivy League, you say?

[demondays524]

I'm definitely surprised at how low the rating is.

[Spenny]

Oh wow...
I came in here expecting a mid-80s review.
While not flawless, it is much better than a 46 IMO.

[SomedayTheFire]

Ivy League, you say?
Hahaha I saw that as well, but you got there first.

[tommy's ghost]

Hahaha I saw that as well, but you got there first.
Tony got there first, actually. I just couldn't resist, haha.

[SomedayTheFire]

Tony got there first, actually. I just couldn't resist, haha.
:hitself: I should read more of the thread haha.

[Praetor]

I've said it before and I'll say it again - I Can Make a Mess is an amazing album and absolutely the peak of his career.

[dubey]

46% lol

Luckily this site isn't exactly known for consistency when it comes to reviews.

[Chris Fallon]

The free record from last year left me very disappointed, so I expected something similar with this one.

I have to say I like some of the new songs but overall, it really is pretty generic and lame. Ace has talent but this is record hardly confirms any of that.

[kylecrowe]

I personally really enjoy this CD.

[Burn That Shit]

Good review, I'm glad you're honest.

[ExplodingStereo]

I'd rate higher than 46%, but I do agree that Ace delievers semi-generic rock mostly with this solo stuff. A 79% would be reasonable I think.

[Yellowcard2006]

This is weird because I can't say there is one track I don't like on the album. And the two misses (Only Thing I Have and the title track) are two of my favorites.

Also thanks for the link to The Damnwells album I like it so far.

[dubey]

I'd rate higher than 46%, but I do agree that Ace delievers semi-generic rock mostly with this solo stuff. A 79% would be reasonable I think.
Yeah, any higher than 79 and you are in Fall Out Boy territory.

[Cliff Diver]

i personally do not agree :-|

it didnt meet the high expectations i set but i still think it is a relatively good album. i would probably give it a 70-75%. i also don't see it having much staying power unfortunately...

the new version of bring back love was my only real gripe.

[newfoundmichael]

review fail.

[Mooregasm]

What the f? This album is so good! how can you say any of that? I bought it the day it came out and i'm still listening to it, and still loving it. The lyrics for When I Hit The Groud are really good too. i think it's my new favorite song.

[Mooregasm]

When Enders hits the ground, he sure does it hard. There's nothing left to bury him with.

great line
that's not a great line. it's atually very stupid. and mean. and untrue. so there.

[Nolessthanblink]

You shouldn't let anyone's review stop you from giving something a chance. You could feel completely differently about it.
But I have always believed that everrything he has ever done has been gold and I don't want that to change. Haha.

[caityconundrum]

But I have always believed that everrything he has ever done has been gold and I don't want that to change. Haha.
Well I may not know shit about the techincal parts of music or production or marketing, but it sounds like a damn good album to me. :shrug:

[RiskyXBandit]

I attend an Ivy League university. Your comment is a degradation and reflects very little moral character.

I find your argument ridiculous. Obviously, kittens cannot comprehend Enders' music, so how could he save them? After selling "nearly half a million album sales to date," I bet he has effected people more than you know (ap.net). You find his album boring, that's quite alright. However, please do not belittle me with offensive comments. Frankly, I love wasting my life with you, however, I have to study.

Obviously, kittens will appreciate this album more than I.
Obviously, I delivered no said argument. I made an opinionated statement.
Obviously, an Ivy League school makes you hold such higher morals than I, correct? Suck it.
Obviously, your shit is gold and mine is a poor brown.
Obviously, you never tasted vagina.

Love,
Kevin.

[WhoSaidThat?]

:hitself:
Lay off, man. He's an Ivy Leaguer.

[WhoSaidThat?]

Hahaha I saw that as well, but you got there first.
Looks like I'm third.

[Brett3]

disagree with this review. Thought this album was pretty good.

[birtcho]

he does acoustic ALOT better

[Aphasia17]

While I disagree with quite a bit of what was said (particularly your opinion that the album title track was a "miss") as well as the rating, the review is well written so I give you full credit for that.

I definitely agree that the new version of Bring Back Love just fails. It felt very forced to me, but other than that I really enjoy the album.

[ghsNICK!]

Wow. You're a moron.
This album is at least a 75% review.
Were you smoking crack while listening to this?

Awful review.

[AbeLurkin]

moron.

[Moral_Orel]

False false false. this is the first time i will disagree with you tony. this album is sick

[drumsboy21]

alright fair enough i'm drunk

a.) you've gotta understand this album as what it is - ace's attempt at being a popular musician.
b.) he's already proved (over, and over, and over) that he's capable of being an alternative music icon
c.) he had nothing left to prove in the heartfelt alternativism (which in many given genres he arguably created)
d.) he's the nicest dude anybody's ever met and his songs reflect that
e.) he's ace enders now he's not the early november he's not i can make a mess; he's making a pop record and as a pop record it's a success; it has hooks, it's not too difficult to listen to, and on a higher note it has a degree of intelligence and above that, honesty, that only ace can truly bring to a song

so this album is a triumph.

[hipvee43]

alright fair enough i'm drunk

a.) you've gotta understand this album as what it is - ace's attempt at being a popular musician.
b.) he's already proved (over, and over, and over) that he's capable of being an alternative music icon
c.) he had nothing left to prove in the heartfelt alternativism (which in many given genres he arguably created)
d.) he's the nicest dude anybody's ever met and his songs reflect that
e.) he's ace enders now he's not the early november he's not i can make a mess; he's making a pop record and as a pop record it's a success; it has hooks, it's not too difficult to listen to, and on a higher note it has a degree of intelligence and above that, honesty, that only ace can truly bring to a song

so this album is a triumph.
u said it right drumsboy.

[flks511]

I miss the Early November

[Skees]

This album is so much better than a 46%, Metro Station got a 78% by this website. Are you kidding me? Metro station scored over 30% better than Ace Enders. What the fuck.

"This album is not a 90% or maybe even an 80% type of record, but it's solid. Ace has the ability to make even the most simple lyrics seem so personal. The simplicity sometimes of his music is what makes him so great I think.
Here we go again. Who reviewed the Metro Station record? Not me; it was Joe DeAndrea. I cannot stand that band (Metro Station) one bit, so if you're going to sit here and try to argue scores (again, which I will say til I'm blue in the face don't really matter), at least compare apples to apples. Most of our staff does not use the lower 50% of a ratings scale. I do. You guys need to grasp that concept and look through some of my previous reviews. I have given scores much lower and will continue to do so."

In case you missed the response, you got told, Tim.

But Seriously, the simplicity, to me, doesn't mean shit. Playing three chords and crying about my life in my bedroom is simple, but it's boring, and that makes it no good to me. In comparison to the EP, this full-length was a letdown. The songs fuse together, and the ones that struggle to differentiate themselves are lackluster at best.

Simplicity tends to be most effective if it's innovative, deep, or catchy, and this albums fails to match any of those descriptions.

[Chris Fallon]

Wow. You're a moron.
This album is at least a 75% review.
Were you smoking crack while listening to this?

Awful review.
Way to get your point across -- Tony must be a moron because he fails to have the same opinion as you on this album.

Give me a fucking break. Some of you are just ridiculous when it comes to presumptions.

[SEckwd]

Strongly Disagree, This album is really solid. Far better than 95% of the crap that comes out lately. I have never been disappointed with any release from Ace, great musician.
this.

[Ryan D.]

Tony whoever the hell you are, please come to Hammonton, and lets talk over a pie at Nino's and the locals can have a pool on how long it will take for me to throw you at of a window.

[goldandgreen182]

Tony whoever the hell you are, please come to Hammonton, and lets talk over a pie at Nino's and the locals can have a pool on how long it will take for me to throw you at of a window.
Yes Duffy, i was waiting for someone from home to comment on this

[Romancebled]

i thought the review was well-written.... but honestly, a 46%??

this album was very enjoyable in my opinion and there are definitely a lot of strong tracks on here. it may not be his best work ever, but it's definitely better than a lot of the music that's out today. i would've rated this around 75-80%.

[jtyexists9]

Tony, well written review sir. This album was a major disappointment from beginning to finish.

[danceparty33]

i'm sorry, but i feel like ace totally let me down this time.
i still think i can make a mess was some of his best solo stuff.
greatly missing the early november...

[danceparty33]

Tony, well written review sir. This album was a major disappointment from beginning to finish.
yes, i agree

[jtyexists9]

I attend an Ivy League university. Your comment is a degradation and reflects very little moral character.

I find your argument ridiculous. Obviously, kittens cannot comprehend Enders' music, so how could he save them? After selling "nearly half a million album sales to date," I bet he has effected people more than you know (ap.net). You find his album boring, that's quite alright. However, please do not belittle me with offensive comments. Frankly, I love wasting my life with you, however, I have to study.
Congrats you read and study more than a typical high school kid. Intelligence isn't about what school you attend, it is about how you use your knowledge. Jackass.

Secondly, it is affected, not effected. I think your Ivy League school needs major reassessment.

Go Cornell!

[Clark]

Congrats you read and study more than a typical high school kid. Intelligence isn't about what school you attend, it is about how you use your knowledge. Jackass.

Secondly, it is affected, not effected. I think your Ivy League school needs major reassessment.

Go Cornell!
*woosh*

[atticusfinch]

wow, didn't expect this. it was definitely a disappointment as I was expecting classic songs, but a 46%?!

I'd give this an 80%.

[LillieDesigns]

The Room's Too Cold and ICMAM are definitely in my top 10 and maybe even top 5 of all time albums (I'm including The Beatles, Death Cab, Pink Floyd and Jay-Z just so I can show I am open to all different types of music). ANYWAY, I felt like the triple disc fell a little flat, The Secret Wars was nothing special and I was expecting to give up on Ace after this record. Well, I think this album is actually quite good, not his best, but his best since '04. I miss the old days, but I think music is all about perspective at the time it is being listened to. Sunday Drive and Baby Blue will be in my heart forever, but I am willing to accept Ace's direction when it comes to new records. In fact, I really get a TSL BOATS feel from a lot of the songs off the new record and, well, I loved BOATS. I am starting to really get to know this album and I think a 46% is horseshit.

Is it his best? No. But you gave Fall Out Boy - Folie à Deux an 84% and Patrick Stump's vocals an 8. I'm sorry, but in no world does FOB release that trash and score that much higher than ANY Ace Enders record. To top it all off, the review is written in a decent manner and shines on a lot of bright spots in the album, but then you throw that stupid line in at the end to ruin its credibility.

I understand you wrote a review and people criticized it, but don't pull my leg and stand behind a 46% because you know that is a stupidly low score for even a MEDIOCRE album. You put the review up and now you gotta do what you gotta do, but maybe next time you'll take it into consideration.

ALSO you give Patrick Stump an 8 for vocals (there are 100 videos on youtube making fun of how incoherent he is) then go ahead and make fun of Tom DeLonge, one of the most influential artists (if not the most influential) in pop punk, and say he sounds like "he's singing with a mouthful of cereal."

I'd hate to see what kind of grade you'd give John Lennon if he was still making music, I mean, you already bashed everyone else that influenced me growing up.

And I hate to seem harsh because I know reviewing albums is not easy, but you know damn well a lot of people won't even read a review if it's lower than a 60%. Actually, I'd be really confused if I had never heard of a band, saw they got a real low score, opened it expecting a good teardown of someone like Brokencyde and then I end up reading a short, random review that says pretty much nothing.

Just my $.02 ---- sorry for the rant.

[PunkDrums182]

The Room's Too Cold and ICMAM are definitely in my top 10 and maybe even top 5 of all time albums (I'm including The Beatles, Death Cab, Pink Floyd and Jay-Z just so I can show I am open to all different types of music). ANYWAY, I felt like the triple disc fell a little flat, The Secret Wars was nothing special and I was expecting to give up on Ace after this record. Well, I think this album is actually quite good, not his best, but his best since '04. I miss the old days, but I think music is all about perspective at the time it is being listened to. Sunday Drive and Baby Blue will be in my heart forever, but I am willing to accept Ace's direction when it comes to new records. In fact, I really get a TSL BOATS feel from a lot of the songs off the new record and, well, I loved BOATS. I am starting to really get to know this album and I think a 46% is horseshit.

Is it his best? No. But you gave Fall Out Boy - Folie à Deux an 84% and Patrick Stump's vocals an 8. I'm sorry, but in no world does FOB release that trash and score that much higher than ANY Ace Enders record. To top it all off, the review is written in a decent manner and shines on a lot of bright spots in the album, but then you throw that stupid line in at the end to ruin its credibility.

I understand you wrote a review and people criticized it, but don't pull my leg and stand behind a 46% because you know that is a stupidly low score for even a MEDIOCRE album. You put the review up and now you gotta do what you gotta do, but maybe next time you'll take it into consideration.

ALSO you give Patrick Stump an 8 for vocals (there are 100 videos on youtube making fun of how incoherent he is) then go ahead and make fun of Tom DeLonge, one of the most influential artists (if not the most influential) in pop punk, and say he sounds like "he's singing with a mouthful of cereal."

I'd hate to see what kind of grade you'd give John Lennon if he was still making music, I mean, you already bashed everyone else that influenced me growing up.

And I hate to seem harsh because I know reviewing albums is not easy, but you know damn well a lot of people won't even read a review if it's lower than a 60%. Actually, I'd be really confused if I had never heard of a band, saw they got a real low score, opened it expecting a good teardown of someone like Brokencyde and then I end up reading a short, random review that says pretty much nothing.

Just my $.02 ---- sorry for the rant.
I didn't read all of what you said.. I agree that this album should have gotten a better review. But I don't quite understand your argument that giving Patrick Stump an 8 for his Vocals is too high. What? Are you insane?

[walking_by91]

Definitely a well-written review, but it did seem slightly harsh. Although, I can't disagree because I've only heard bits and pieces of the album.

[ddb43]

I didn't want to read this review b/c I couldn't take someone drooling all over this album, but then I caved. Great review. I totally agree w/ you on almost everything you said. Keep up the good work...reviewer not artist.

[nickthehick2]

Wow, pretty low score. I would disagree. I would give it at least a 70

[thecobrakais]

I didn't read all of what you said.. I agree that this album should have gotten a better review. But I don't quite understand your argument that giving Patrick Stump an 8 for his Vocals is too high. What? Are you insane?
have you actually heard stump live before? he's awful. i'd give him a -8 for vocals if i could. ok, maybe not that bad, but he's far from a great singer. his vocals are heavily produced in the studio, it's so obvous.

[Tony Pascarella]

Live performances have zero bearing on recorded music reviews.

[thecobrakais]

Live performances have zero bearing on recorded music reviews.
maybe not, but a good studio recording doesn't make him a great singer either. it goes both ways. i personally just have a hard time rating any musician on any performance if they can't somewhat pull it off live.

[LillieDesigns]

I didn't read all of what you said.. I agree that this album should have gotten a better review. But I don't quite understand your argument that giving Patrick Stump an 8 for his Vocals is too high. What? Are you insane?
No. I think Patrick definitely has one of the more unique voices in the 'scene' today and I also understand where people are coming from when they bash Tom DeLonge for not being the best singer in the world. I just feel like low scores and little comments like the one about a 'mouthful of cereal' and 'hitting the ground hard' take away from a review as controversial as this and AVA's. I used the FOB argument because I really do not think any sane listener can give Ace's voice a 4 and Patrick's an 8 when you can't even understand the man half the time.

I do agree with Tony that Ace's music has hit a few boring spots in the past few years, but my argument was over the nature of his scoring. Like a lot of people I think 46% is way too low when compared to giving FOB's new album a high 80. If those numbers "don't really matter anyway" then stop using them and give me a tumbs up or thumbs down. People are mad because he did use the numbers and he did give a very weak score.

Sorry if I offended anyone.

[Tony Pascarella]

maybe not, but a good studio recording doesn't make him a great singer either. it goes both ways. i personally just have a hard time rating any musician on any performance if they can't somewhat pull it off live.YAnd how do you know if they can or cannot pull it off live? I'm saying in general, for any old artist. You can't speculate from your review and use the speculation to award a score. You have to rate it (or at least you should rate it) on what is actually THERE.

The issue you guys seem to have with my Fall Out Boy review makes my head spin. That album, whether you like the band or not, is the most musically ambitious of their career.

Where's the ambition with When I Hit the Ground? It's rehashing the same stuff he's done for years (which is fine but won't do much for the creativity score) but the fact that it's so poorly executed is the issue that I have with the overall album.

[thecobrakais]

YAnd how do you know if they can or cannot pull it off live? I'm saying in general, for any old artist. You can't speculate from your review and use the speculation to award a score. You have to rate it (or at least you should rate it) on what is actually THERE.

The issue you guys seem to have with my Fall Out Boy review makes my head spin. That album, whether you like the band or not, is the most musically ambitious of their career.

Where's the ambition with When I Hit the Ground? It's rehashing the same stuff he's done for years (which is fine but won't do much for the creativity score) but the fact that it's so poorly executed is the issue that I have with the overall album.
i agree with you. i guess it is just a matter of personal opinion. we'll leave it at that.

[KillyourIdols88]

I agree with this review entierly. I belive after time I will get into it more and more but until them I am highly disappointed with this record.

On the bright side when I get the ground is my favorite song in all of his cataloge.

[IMaAbsolutePunk]

pretty bad compared to his recent bands/work. i'm with tony on this one.

[baton]

i actually love that album, few moments are pure brilliant, the rest is on a good level, singing is pretty good as for me

[SlappedActor]

Disappointing album, good review.

[late1sunday]

Obviously, kittens will appreciate this album more than I.
Obviously, I delivered no said argument. I made an opinionated statement.
Obviously, an Ivy League school makes you hold such higher morals than I, correct? Suck it.
Obviously, your shit is gold and mine is a poor brown.
Obviously, you never tasted vagina.

Love,
Kevin.
yes.

[PunkDrums182]

have you actually heard stump live before? he's awful. i'd give him a -8 for vocals if i could. ok, maybe not that bad, but he's far from a great singer. his vocals are heavily produced in the studio, it's so obvous.
I've seen them 3 times live, and once saw pat sing acapella. He wasn't that great the first time I saw them, right after FUCT came out, but they did say he was sick. Every other time I saw them live he was SPOT on. He's gotten a lot better live over time. You can't deny the guy has a voice.

And also, like Tony said, he wasn't reviewing a live show, he's reviewing the album.

[PunkDrums182]

No. I think Patrick definitely has one of the more unique voices in the 'scene' today and I also understand where people are coming from when they bash Tom DeLonge for not being the best singer in the world. I just feel like low scores and little comments like the one about a 'mouthful of cereal' and 'hitting the ground hard' take away from a review as controversial as this and AVA's. I used the FOB argument because I really do not think any sane listener can give Ace's voice a 4 and Patrick's an 8 when you can't even understand the man half the time.

I do agree with Tony that Ace's music has hit a few boring spots in the past few years, but my argument was over the nature of his scoring. Like a lot of people I think 46% is way too low when compared to giving FOB's new album a high 80. If those numbers "don't really matter anyway" then stop using them and give me a tumbs up or thumbs down. People are mad because he did use the numbers and he did give a very weak score.

Sorry if I offended anyone.
Well I think the new FOB is an amazing record. Next to TTYG it's my favorite of theirs.

I do agree with you that 46 is way too low for Ace's new album, I love it.

[leifstar]

Overall disagree 80%. Yes this album is not as great as his other work and I was a little disappointed, but it did not deserve the score or parts of what was said in the review. I was shocked when I read it. Than I read your past reviews, which in my opinion I completely disagree with many of them and cannot see in anyway why some where scored higher than Ace, or even had a high score in general.

Not meaning to insult you, I guess it's just a matter of opinion. On a positive side it was well written and most of your reviews are, I just don't agree with them most of the times.

[Karen Shaw]

So I read the review and thought to myself how could someone be so harsh. I've known Ace for many years and all the music he writes comes from the heart. He's goal is to relate to as many people as possible with his music. Everyone has an opionion and everyone has that right! But to be harsh as you were, that's not an opionion that's someone who has no respect. If you read your rules that everyone needs to agree to before logging on it says" We understand the need to disagree, and we hope that everyone can do so in an intelligent and polite manner." And you also say in the rules "Truest me, your argument will be more well taken by others if you show a little class." Did you happen to read your own rules. And it also says that all your staff handle themselves in a professional manner. Wow! Someone didn't read the rules.

[thecobrakais]

You can't deny the guy has a voice.

i'm going to have to respectfully disagree. it must just be a personal thing for me. i just don't really like his voice. but, i did listen to their live in phoenix record to give him a chance. nothing impressed me and most of it made me cringe.

sorry :( nothing personal.

[noles848]

this is ridiculous, a 4 for his vocals? his voice sounds incredible! unless you just dont enjoy his voice i dont see how you can call it bad singing.

the only reason this got a 46% is because the author wanted to draw attention to his review. im kinda pissed that absolutepunk let you review it.. most shitty albums get at least a 60 on here.

[cassusriff]

I've always appreciated your honesty in your reviews. I have no problem with how you scored it. The album is a lot of filler and I find myself only listening to a few tracks. I expected a bit more out of Ace to be honest.

[Broden Terry]

If you want a really good pop rock album, go download The Damnwells' new record for free here (http://www.thedamnwells.com). Ace's new one just doesn't measure up to stuff like that.

Wow, this is really, really good. I completely missed this record. Thanks Tony! :-)

[CellarGhosts]

The Early November >>> I Can Make a Mess >>>> This. Good review, Tony.

I can't believe all the people getting in a shit fit over how low the score is. It's the author's opinion. You don't have to subscribe to it. Ace does have a good voice, yes. Great? No. He's a good singer but he isn't anything amazing in the vocal department. Granted I am a pretty big TEN fan and I enjoy the ICMAMLNB album, but still...

I don't know, I just feel like people accusing Tony of rating this so low only to draw attention or whatever is a little bit ridiculous.

[dhelmick]

I'm gonna have to disagree. Sure it doesnt do what ICMAMLNB did for me but its still a really solid album and miles above any other pop punk formulaic band I've ever heard. Ace is a fantastic songwriter and i think that although they're may be some fillers, he has made a really accesible and decent rock record. It disgusts me that bands like All time low can sit comfortably in every thirteen year olds cd collection when a great pop rock record like this will probably be shrugged off because ace hasnt dropped any txt slang or high school grammar into his lyrics. As much as i appreciate the writing content of your review, i disagree. I cant wait to see Ace play these live in the UK sometime.
the whole txt slang line is pretty funny for me. i guess now music is bought based on how well you can promote your crappy music not on how the music actually sounds.

[grabyourguns]

couldn't disagree more. I know this is gonna sound immature, but i got mad reading the review.

[SomedayTheFire]

this is ridiculous, a 4 for his vocals? his voice sounds incredible! unless you just dont enjoy his voice i dont see how you can call it bad singing.

the only reason this got a 46% is because the author wanted to draw attention to his review. im kinda pissed that absolutepunk let you review it.. most shitty albums get at least a 60 on here.
That depends on the reviewer's scoring system i.e. one reviewers 60% might equal Tony's 40%.

[Yellowcard2006]

That depends on the reviewer's scoring system i.e. one reviewers 60% might equal Tony's 40%.
I wish the site could just agree on a new grading system or tell tony to keep it in the upper half. Personally I don't think most albums deserve below 50%. A five point scale would work better because and cause less controversy. Just because no one uses the lower 50% doesn't mean it's a bad thing.

[Chris Fallon]

So I read the review and thought to myself how could someone be so harsh. I've known Ace for many years and all the music he writes comes from the heart. He's goal is to relate to as many people as possible with his music. Everyone has an opionion and everyone has that right! But to be harsh as you were, that's not an opionion that's someone who has no respect. If you read your rules that everyone needs to agree to before logging on it says" We understand the need to disagree, and we hope that everyone can do so in an intelligent and polite manner." And you also say in the rules "Truest me, your argument will be more well taken by others if you show a little class." Did you happen to read your own rules. And it also says that all your staff handle themselves in a professional manner. Wow! Someone didn't read the rules.
How did he not handle himself in a professional manner? If you knew anything about professionalism, you'd realize that bringing personal feelings into business is wrong. No one is saying Ace is a bad person, but just because you know him does not mean his work is above criticism. I don't see any evidence of any staff member -- especially Tony -- acting unprofessional. Please point out any instances so your viewpoint makes sense.

[blebbio]

It's not great but I think it's better than you are making it out to be.
The Secret Wars was much better though.