PS3 in 2007 / 2008?

[Chemical Love]

I was just at Best Buy and I was checking out the Xbox 360, which is fucking sick, the graphics are unbelievable, and one of the guys working there said that PS3 got pushed back again to 2007 possibly 2008. Thats a ridicuously long time away, does anyone know if thats true or not?

[RedWineSheets]

what games did you play, only ones i played were call of duty and kong

[Chemical Love]

Call of Duty. Kong looks like a pretty sweet game, how is it.

[Broken Parachute]

I heard April/May of 2006..I never heard anything about 2007 or 2008. That's a real long time away.

[Timberwolf]

sounds like bs to me

[TheOtherAndrew]

They'd be so far behind, but that would give them a chance to update what they already have. And rip off Nintendo.

[OveriseFan]

I heard April/May of 2006..I never heard anything about 2007 or 2008. That's a real long time away.

you're right.

[RedWineSheets]

Call of Duty. Kong looks like a pretty sweet game, how is it.

it had good graphics, but the part i was playing was really dark and there was a glare on the screen so it pissed me off.

[Kif]

April/May seems pretty early for a Sony console, I'd have expected it to come out later in the year.

[Web250]

The PS3 is most likely going to be late 2006.

[clevername]

Yeah it'll be mid to late 2006. There is no way that it's gonna be 2008. It could be early 07 if the 360 flops(which I'm sure it won't). They are tweaking shit and will probably have it out sooner then you think.

[odnetnin]

I was just at Best Buy and I was checking out the Xbox 360, which is fucking sick, the graphics are unbelievable, and one of the guys working there said that PS3 got pushed back again to 2007 possibly 2008. Thats a ridicuously long time away, does anyone know if thats true or not?
What? We have a search fucntion!? (http://www.absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=81597)

[Talib Scottie]

I was just at Best Buy and I was checking out the Xbox 360, which is fucking sick, the graphics are unbelievable, and one of the guys working there said that PS3 got pushed back again to 2007 possibly 2008. Thats a ridicuously long time away, does anyone know if thats true or not?
Best Buy is tricky though, they place a HDtv for the Xbox 360 and a normal TV for the Xbox. It looks great yeah, but bastards are tricky

[Emopunkthrice]

ehhh no matter what I can't wait to play PS3 but for now I'm happy with my PS2 and PSP

[Troy will Fall]

I thought it was coming out in summer of 06? It won't be 2007, unless Sony wants to have no hope in the console war with Microsoft...

[Darren McLeod]

Sony doesn't have to worry as much about Microsoft as you guys think. You guys seem to forget that there's this place called Japan with a rather large gaming market, in which Microsoft's Xbox sells approximately one console a year.

It'll come out Christmas 2006 in at least Japan, and probably North America as well.

[BrandNewHero77]

well if history has taought us anything
we know the playsation came out 2 years after sega saturen
and we all know how much better PS was

[WakingTheMisery]

halo 3 is set to come out the same day as PS3.

[Scott Weber]

Sony doesn't have to worry as much about Microsoft as you guys think. You guys seem to forget that there's this place called Japan with a rather large gaming market, in which Microsoft's Xbox sells approximately one console a year.

It'll come out Christmas 2006 in at least Japan, and probably North America as well.
I have been telling people that time after time, but people are stupid and can't think outside the US economic effect.

[richter915]

I have been telling people that time after time, but people are stupid and can't think outside the US economic effect.
hmm wait this is interesting actually...I read in some articles that if trends continue...xbox will beat out PS by 2010...does that hold any validity or is it only in the US that that may be true?

[SLADE775]

I was just at Best Buy and I was checking out the Xbox 360, which is fucking sick, the graphics are unbelievable, and one of the guys working there said that PS3 got pushed back again to 2007 possibly 2008. Thats a ridicuously long time away, does anyone know if thats true or not?

FALSE

[clevername]

halo 3 is set to come out the same day as PS3.

Dude, Gates was talking out his ass when he said that. Bungie said that it'll be do ne when it's done and that it probably won't be a same-day release. Sides I don't think it would affect sales at all...

[odnetnin]

halo 3 is set to come out the same day as PS3.
And perhaps for PS3.

[BrandNewHero77]

halo 3 is set to come out the same day as PS3.

yeah gates said that in time mag. but its not set to realease anywhere near ps3

[Darren McLeod]

Dude, Gates was talking out his ass when he said that. Bungie said that it'll be do ne when it's done and that it probably won't be a same-day release. Sides I don't think it would affect sales at all...
Look at Halo 2. You think they released that when it was "done"? That sucker got rushed out, and so will Halo 3 if Microsoft throws enough money at them. It'll sell regardless.

The only way XBox could oust PS by 2010 is if Microsoft somehow gets some more support from Japanese developers, and Sony really screws something up with PS3. Which apparently they did with the complexity of their system. Rumor has it some developers are switching over to Xbox 360 because PS3 is too hard and expensive to make games for...

[clevername]

Look at Halo 2. You think they released that when it was "done"? That sucker got rushed out, and so will Halo 3 if Microsoft throws enough money at them. It'll sell regardless.

The only way XBox could oust PS by 2010 is if Microsoft somehow gets some more support from Japanese developers, and Sony really screws something up with PS3. Which apparently they did with the complexity of their system. Rumor has it some developers are switching over to Xbox 360 because PS3 is too hard and expensive to make games for...

Dude, I just read that the company Atlus, who is resoponsible for getting DDS and SMT:Nocturne said that the second Magna Carta(Not the one coming out on Wed.) is going to be on 360. So yeah, this could be a tough competition if that really does end up happening.

And also, even if they rushed it, it still wouldn't be out. Haha, but look at Halo 2. It took 4! years to come out, even though it was rushed. So i say, new hardware = longer timeframe, no matter what. Unless they release like.. 3 levels and are like crying on the DVD again cause they couldn't finish it.

[Darren McLeod]

If rumors circulating the internet are true, Sony and PS3 may be heading for some big trouble in little Japan. With an over complicated system and high development costs, developers may be seeking to drop Sony like a bad habit and move to Xbox 360.

Shocking news is swirling the internet today, first reported on three seperate PS3 websites. The news is not good for Sony. Apparently Japanese game developers are packing up their PS3 tents and moving to Xbox 360. One site reported that the rate in which developers are leaving PS3 is "worse then Nintendo's Gamecube era." Kutaragi may be demanding too much from the developers, plus the fact that the initial investment required for PS3 is reportedly as high as 17.6 million US dollars are rumored to be the leading factors in the exodus.

Recently Sega announced that Condemned had been cancelled for PS3, with more and more developers saying they prefer Xbox 360. Another complaint from the developers is that Sony has built such an advanced and difficult architecture that programing for it is too difficult. A recent article on a Japanese site called ZakZak seems to be the source for the claims.

Most believe it will be a decisive victory [for Sony], with the catch phrase “Don’t stop evolution”, much like Junichirou Koizumi’s election victory with his catchphrase “Don’t stop reformation.” However, another industry insider confided, “This is nothing but a nightmare for many Japanese software development companies.”

One of the reasons for this nightmare is soaring development costs.

The industry insider went on to say, “Kutaragi has said, ‘Please develop suitable software for PS3 - this software must not be of the same standard as PS2 software.’ Developing software for the PS3 from scratch will require an initial investment of at least 2 billion yen [US $17.6 million] [not including development costs]. There are not many software companies that can easily afford that kind of money.”

So now faced with a dilemma, could Japanese game developers look to Microsoft for the answer? MS has built a system that will allow developers easy tools and low costs. Could Sony's super powered machine be too much for developers to handle? Could their over ambitious minds be the downfall of the PS3 support? Only time will tell.
Now, take it with a grain of salt, because it's taken from a site called XBox Circle, so their is definitely some bias involved in the report, but it is, nonetheless, interesting. It's also quite believable as the PS3 platform is extremely complex.

[Anton Djamoos]

Now, take it with a grain of salt, because it's taken from a site called XBox Circle, so their is definitely some bias involved in the report, but it is, nonetheless, interesting. It's also quite believable as the PS3 platform is extremely complex.
How cool would that be if it were true? I could really see this happening. I'm gonna research it now.

[Darren McLeod]

The problem Sony will have is they lack the dominance they previously had. Sure, PS3 has outsold every other system to shit, but in the last year or two, Xbox has really gained some speed in this North American market. That, combined with this speculation of PS3 being expensive to develop for, means this console race is going to be pretty unpredictable.

Sony managed to come out of nowhere with PSX and make it the dominant system 10 years ago (I can't believe it was that long ago)... but they were Japanese, and had Japanese game support. Microsoft is still working in that department.

Also, everyone's forgetting that Revolution is such a mystery wrapped in an enigma that nobody knows what it's sales are going to be like. DS has proven with Nintendogs and Train Your Brain (In Japan, the game's shipped over a million copies) that Nintendo is capable of pulling out people from markets that never used to play games, and make them buy systems.

[clevername]

The real reason that Xbox won last year in sales was because in Oct, when the new slim Ps2s were introduced, it was IMPOSSIBLE to find a ps2, even used. That's the main reason that Xbox gained steam. Not to mention I think this Christmas will be the Christmas of the PSP. It is still there and I think it's just going to get better and better. I just really would like conformation on all of that shit. Then again I hadn't heard that Condemned was officially cancelled on PS3, but it doesn't surprise me at all.

[Anton Djamoos]

http://theinquirer.net/?article=27568

If you are considering getting the PS3, you should probably read that. Rumor has it Sony plans on making the PS3 unable to play used games...

[when 4ever ends]

the revolution.. nintendo needs to start creating some hype about it. or else it will fail in the american market.

[Darren McLeod]

The real reason that Xbox won last year in sales was because in Oct, when the new slim Ps2s were introduced, it was IMPOSSIBLE to find a ps2, even used. That's the main reason that Xbox gained steam. Not to mention I think this Christmas will be the Christmas of the PSP. It is still there and I think it's just going to get better and better. I just really would like conformation on all of that shit. Then again I hadn't heard that Condemned was officially cancelled on PS3, but it doesn't surprise me at all.
Christmas of the PSP? I dunno about that. Mario Kart, Animal Crossing, Sonic and many more exclusives on DS could make it pretty damn desirable for the little kids. PSP is pretty expensive for a Christmas present, or maybe I'm saying that because my parents never spent much money on me at Christmas.

[when 4ever ends]

christmas will be the year of the iPod and the 360

[richter915]

what's the DRM scandal?

[Darren McLeod]

the revolution.. nintendo needs to start creating some hype about it. or else it will fail in the american market.
Nintendo's plan thus far seems to be et Sony stop people from buying a 360, and then swoop in for the kill sometime next year (E3, perhaps?)

I think Revolution will be a lot like DS. People are going to need to play it to "get it" and understand why it's cool.

And nintendo needs Smash Bros or something of similar popularity at launch.

[Darren McLeod]

If tonton's article is right, you can't bring your game over to a friend's house to play, and you can't play it on a new console if your old one breaks (which happened a LOT with PS2, unfortunately).

[Anton Djamoos]

Christmas of the PSP? I dunno about that. Mario Kart, Animal Crossing, Sonic and many more exclusives on DS could make it pretty damn desirable for the little kids. PSP is pretty expensive for a Christmas present, or maybe I'm saying that because my parents never spent much money on me at Christmas.
Yeah I agree. The PSP really hasn't proven anything to me. It's a portable system with amazing graphics yes, but why should I own one? The games haven't been anything spectacular yet and most of the games that I've been interested in playing haven't felt very good and have turned me off from the system.

[Darren McLeod]

Yeah I agree. The PSP really hasn't proven anything to me. It's a portable system with amazing graphics yes, but why should I own one? The games haven't been anything spectacular yet and most of the games that I've been interested in playing haven't felt very good and have turned me off from the system.
Then again, graphics alone can push people to buy it. Plus, GTA makes it "cooler" than DS to a lot of casual gamers.

[Anton Djamoos]

If tonton's article is right, you can't bring your game over to a friend's house to play, and you can't play it on a new console if your old one breaks (which happened a LOT with PS2, unfortunately).
The PS2 was one of the worst put-together consoles I've ever played. My roommate bought two because the first broke and then the second broke. Meanwhile, my Cube is still running flawlessly.

That's ridiculous though isn't it? I have so many used games because there are games that I want to play but refuse to spend $50 on. Sony, what are you thinking?

You wouldn't even be able to rent games anymore.

[Anton Djamoos]

Nintendo's plan thus far seems to be et Sony stop people from buying a 360, and then swoop in for the kill sometime next year (E3, perhaps?)

I think Revolution will be a lot like DS. People are going to need to play it to "get it" and understand why it's cool.

And nintendo needs Smash Bros or something of similar popularity at launch.
I still don't see how Smash Bros. is gonna work with the Revmote. Honestly I think I'd rather just use the Cube controller shell with the Revmote for that kind of game.

[Darren McLeod]

Yeah, I have no clue either. But as Peter Molyneux said... "Never underestimate Nintendo".

[richter915]

The PS2 was one of the worst put-together consoles I've ever played. My roommate bought two because the first broke and then the second broke. Meanwhile, my Cube is still running flawlessly.

That's ridiculous though isn't it? I have so many used games because there are games that I want to play but refuse to spend $50 on. Sony, what are you thinking?

You wouldn't even be able to rent games anymore.
I just received an email 2 days ago about a class action law suit against Sony in regards to PS2 systems that can't play the "blue discs"...it's been an ongoing problem for so long...dunno if you guys are interested in it or not but it reminds me of the problems people always had with iPods...

[richter915]

I still don't see how Smash Bros. is gonna work with the Revmote. Honestly I think I'd rather just use the Cube controller shell with the Revmote for that kind of game.
if a smash bros comes out with it, it'd be grand.

[Darren McLeod]

I didn't think about renting games. That makes it seem slightly less believable. I have my doubts now, unless they make "retail" copies and "rental" copies, which seems like a lot of work, and that'll still lead to preowned games.

Yeah, my Cube is still running fine. the only time it broke is because It fell out of my backpack one day while I was running after a bus, and even then, the shell didn't break, but the parts inside must've gotten banged up because it couldn't get past the GameCube logo. I sent it to Nintendo (after warranty, mind you) and they sent me a brand new console. Awesome.

[Anton Djamoos]

When smash bros comes out with it, it will be grand.
Fixed. It's confirmed to be a launch title.

[when 4ever ends]

i hope people put sonys wonderful root kit cds into their xbox 360 and it winds up killing the CD drive

hahaha oh sony. what a bunch of non intelligent people.

[Darren McLeod]

Sony's getting mad with power.

[when 4ever ends]

yes they are

[richter915]

Fixed. It's confirmed to be a launch title.
so sexy...any videos/previews yet?

[Darren McLeod]

so sexy...any videos/previews yet?
No videos of any Revolution titles yet.

[fourletterword]

You wouldn't even be able to rent games anymore.


And the game rental area is probably a huge (at least big enough) area that an intelligent company wouldn't eliminate from their sales. They probably have something that a mod chip or something equivelent won't allow you to play copied games. My guess is that the article misinterpreted that information.

[when 4ever ends]

No videos of any Revolution titles yet.
see thats what they need though. nintendo needs to start hyping this thing. my friends didnt even know there was going to be another cube until i told them.

[believethehyph]

sounds like bs to me


yeah for sure.

[clevername]

Alright, I'm probably the biggest Sony whore here so here we go:
I was gonna say the DS this year, but parents are stupid. They don't care that the DS is more accessable and that it's great and harder to break, they just know that their kids want the PSP. It's fucking ridiculously expensive, I'm the first to admit that. However, it has had a few solid hits and I'm hoping that it'll follow that up quickly. Also, with the mods that the PSP supports it blows the DS away. Granted I would be playing old nintendo games on it, but nonetheless it's more then the DS can do as far as power. I really like the DS so don't get me wrong, I was just behind on the bandwagon.

Now for PS2. The launch systems, there is no excuse for. They shouldn't have released it if it wasn't done. I completely agree with that assessment. However after the second generation most of the Systems held up damn well. I got a third generation and it worked perfectly until I sold it earlier this year for a slim one. The slim ones also had their problems. At first a lot of the power buttons just plain wouldn't work and that was rough. However, the real problem with those were ignorance. A lot of problems you'll find from the system are doing just what Darren did and dropping the system. People don't realize how much damage you do to a system when it's dropped. You absolutely fuck it up. The sslim Ps2s however NEED the stand. It's something I believe should have been included. Two fans are on the bottom, so when they are covered they suck up dust and carpet and whatever is near it.

The blue disc thing though, I know of the problem but have never dealt with it. It does defeat the point of backwards compatability, but here's the thing. DON'T get it fixed by sony. They'll charge an assload and ask for your left testicle and sometimes, it still doesn't get fixed. Used game stores sometimes take broken systems in trade. Plus most people don't care about the backwards they just want the most recent games and a lot of games are DVD now with less of an emphasis on CD-rom discs. I think this is a problem that should and probably has been rectified. I mean, no matter what, the lazer is going to go. I see it both ways. I've seen some read blue discs with no problem and I've seen others not. Then I've seen some read DVD discs and then others not. I think really it comes down to care. Treat it well, it'll last as long as a Gamecube. Mine lasted me two years, and when I traded it in, I sold it personally and never saw it come back. So there you go.

[Darren McLeod]

The problem with Emulation on PSP is that only about 10% of the population knows that they can do that. Most PSP owners don't know that, just like most XBox owners don't have their systems modded for emulation.

[clevername]

The problem with Emulation on PSP is that only about 10% of the population knows that they can do that. Most PSP owners don't know that, just like most XBox owners don't have their systems modded for emulation.

Well that's why I'm trying to inform the haters on its capabilities. I mean, there's a reason for all the patches. Sony doesn't want you doing that shit, but I just love how now there's all the stuff that brings your system back. Fucking I found this one that brings it all the way back to ver 1.00 so that you can do anything. The internet browser is just a FRONT don't give in!

[richter915]

And the game rental area is probably a huge (at least big enough) area that an intelligent company wouldn't eliminate from their sales. They probably have something that a mod chip or something equivelent won't allow you to play copied games. My guess is that the article misinterpreted that information.
my guess is that microsoft is starting rumors about PS3 being shit just to create this kinda hype and push people towards xbox...

yes, i love conspiracy theories (and I am anti microsoft video game consoles)

[richter915]

with you guys mentioning modding and emulators...that will probably be my biggest reason for getting whichever system (either PS3 or xbox360...not considering the revolution at all, sorry)...which system will be easier to mod and why? I've seen people on campus with xbox's that have tons of games on it along with movies and music...don't see much of that with PS2...will this be the case with PS3? I know this is illegal and all but it's my motivation so any info on that would be greatly appreciated.

[Darren McLeod]

xbox 360 with harddrive will be easiest to mod because Microsoft basically makes computers and sells them as consoles.

[clevername]

yeah, Xbox will probably always be easiest to mod. The only problem is you can't go on your live account anymore. You can use sites like Xlink though so all is not lost.

[ActorInThisPlay]

damn this sux if it gets pushed back that long...I won't buy a Revolution or 360.

[Darren McLeod]

damn this sux if it gets pushed back that long...I won't buy a Revolution or 360.
Wow, that's quite the call to be making this early, before you've tried XBox 360, before anyone's tried PS3, and before a videoclip of a Revolution game has been shown.

[Anton Djamoos]

Wow, that's quite the call to be making this early, before you've tried XBox 360, before anyone's tried PS3, and before a videoclip of a Revolution game has been shown.
Seriously. Oh well, let him waste his money while we're all smashing each other over Nintendo Wifi.

[ActorInThisPlay]

well the reviews that the XBOX 360 have been getting are not great. I don't want a Revolution stictly for the reason that the controller is a remote control...how lame is that. there is a reason the controllers are shaped the way they are, to contour your hands better. Plus I own a PS2 and I'm pretty sure the PS3 will play the PS2 games...PS3 is going to be the better system so why waste money on an XBOX360 or a Revolution that will come out sooner.

[Anton Djamoos]

well the reviews that the XBOX 360 have been getting are not great. I don't want a Revolution stictly for the reason that the controller is a remote control...how lame is that. there is a reason the controllers are shaped the way they are, to contour your hands better. Plus I own a PS2 and I'm pretty sure the PS3 will play the PS2 games...PS3 is going to be the better system so why waste money on an XBOX360 or a Revolution that will come out sooner.
Before you post, do your research before the Horsemen stomp all over you. PS3 may be the better system but it's gonna cost you a pretty penny. I guess it's cool though if it's all about the graphics for you. By the way, don't diss the Revolution's controller when there are going to be fancy things like this:

http://cubemedia.ign.com/cube/image/article/651/651559/understanding-the-revolution-controller-20050916041026412-000.jpg

[clevername]

Before you post, do your research before the Horsemen stomp all over you. PS3 may be the better system but it's gonna cost you a pretty penny. I guess it's cool though if it's all about the graphics for you. By the way, don't diss the Revolution's controller when there are going to be fancy things like this:

http://cubemedia.ign.com/cube/image/article/651/651559/understanding-the-revolution-controller-20050916041026412-000.jpg

Those different controller ports that they are putting out are what are reinstilling my faith in nintendo. I think that with the full backwards and the fact that it's not solely a remote will make this system EXTREMELY interesting. I'm mostly excited to see if Namco will do a bunch of lightgun style shooters for it since it seems the obvious way to go.

[Anton Djamoos]

Those different controller ports that they are putting out are what are reinstilling my faith in nintendo. I think that with the full backwards and the fact that it's not solely a remote will make this system EXTREMELY interesting. I'm mostly excited to see if Namco will do a bunch of lightgun style shooters for it since it seems the obvious way to go.
Exactly. I really didn't like the idea of just the remote but the add-ons are going to make it so cool. You get the best of both worlds.

[ActorInThisPlay]

Before you post, do your research before the Horsemen stomp all over you. PS3 may be the better system but it's gonna cost you a pretty penny. I guess it's cool though if it's all about the graphics for you. By the way, don't diss the Revolution's controller when there are going to be fancy things like this:

http://cubemedia.ign.com/cube/image/article/651/651559/understanding-the-revolution-controller-20050916041026412-000.jpg
looks cool, but the PS3 is still going to stomp all over your Revolution when it comes out and my bet is that it won't be that much more expensive, probably $500 at most, but you gotta pay for the best. It's like why would you want a BMW for $40K when you could get a Honda for $15K...because it is better, thats why.

[ActorInThisPlay]

Exactly. I really didn't like the idea of just the remote but the add-ons are going to make it so cool. You get the best of both worlds.
yeah but do you have to pay for the add-ons? probably which is lame...

[Anton Djamoos]

you gotta pay for the best. It's like why would you want a BMW for $40K when you could get a Honda for $15K...because it is better, thats why.
Not trying to defend my position but I would rather have a Honda for 15k because it'd get me from point A to point B. That's all I need out of a car. For a video game console, I just want fun. Better graphics does not equal better fun.

[Anton Djamoos]

yeah but do you have to pay for the add-ons? probably which is lame...
Yeah you'll have to pay but you don't need them. It's just like buying any add-on for the system.

[ActorInThisPlay]

Not trying to defend my position but I would rather have a Honda for 15k because it'd get me from point A to point B. That's all I need out of a car. For a video game console, I just want fun. Better graphics does not equal better fun.
I would rather have a BMW, it'll be a better all around car. PS2 has better games then GameCube so why wouldn't that be the case with PS3 too. Better graphics don't equal better games but it helps pave the way to make better games. If the system is more powerful, then more powerful games will come out for it.

[Anton Djamoos]

I would rather have a BMW, it'll be a better all around car. PS2 has better games then GameCube so why wouldn't that be the case with PS3 too. Better graphics don't equal better games but it helps pave the way to make better games. If the system is more powerful, then more powerful games will come out for it.
Well, we don't know what's gonna happen with either system, so for now we must agree to disagree.

You changed your avatar!

[clevername]

Not trying to defend my position but I would rather have a Honda for 15k because it'd get me from point A to point B. That's all I need out of a car. For a video game console, I just want fun. Better graphics does not equal better fun.

I agree. Plus think of smash brothers if it can impliment the motion capturing. It could be one of the most innovative fighting games of all time.

Oh and just for the record I'm the biggest Sony Whore ever, but I'm totally down with the Revolution. I've determined that I'm all about this and I want to see where all this is going to lead. Plus, if you ask me, with progresive scan, the gamecube does have the best graphics. Some of the shit is ridiculous on there. Look at RE:4 or the new Zelda. Shit even Windwaker was one of the best looking games on any of the systems. So i am really excited to see what this will offer everyone. That full backwards could make this the sleeper system too. I mean, fucking, if they got even just namco and maybe capcom, it'd be one of the best systems of all time. The only thing I need regarding this is how it's going to work, like if it's a charge per download or a monthly thing or what.

And yes, I think PS3 will be the best looking system. I can't wait for Blue ray discs to take over. I really can't. however, I love my RPGs and I need this, but they aren't always the most fun plain and simple. I mean a mario kart or the new Mario 128, those are going to blow people away I think.

[ActorInThisPlay]

Well, we don't know what's gonna happen with either system, so for now we must agree to disagree.

You changed your avatar!
no i didn't, its the same one I have had for more then a year now...lol

[ActorInThisPlay]

I will say this though...the Revolution will be better then the XBOX 360, I'm pretty sure the 360 will be the weakest system and like I think Scott said, it will become the Dreamcast2.

[Darren McLeod]

looks cool, but the PS3 is still going to stomp all over your Revolution when it comes out and my bet is that it won't be that much more expensive, probably $500 at most, but you gotta pay for the best. It's like why would you want a BMW for $40K when you could get a Honda for $15K...because it is better, thats why.
Your theory has many holes in it. If anything, the PS2 is a Honda, and the GameCube is a BMW. Why? Because GameCube is more powerful, but PS2 is more popular.

How is PS3 going to stomp all over Revolution? We know of neither release date, nor has anyone played the consoles. You have to stop jumping to conclusions.

[clevername]

Your theory has many holes in it. If anything, the PS2 is a Honda, and the GameCube is a BMW. Why? Because GameCube is more powerful, but PS2 is more popular.

How is PS3 going to stomp all over Revolution? We know of neither release date, nor has anyone played the consoles. You have to stop jumping to conclusions.

Technically Kojima played a PS3 to show off MGS4 but hey, you know.. no nitpicking here...

[Darren McLeod]

Technically Kojima played a PS3 to show off MGS4 but hey, you know.. no nitpicking here...
Did he really? I thought it was just a video reel.... I didn't remember seeing anyone hold the PS3 controller.

(also, when I said nobody played the system, I meant nobody in the media to give impressions. Obviously the developers have played on dev-kits of the system)

[clevername]

Did he really? I thought it was just a video reel.... I didn't remember seeing anyone hold the PS3 controller.

(also, when I said nobody played the system, I meant nobody in the media to give impressions. Obviously the developers have played on dev-kits of the system)

Haha I was just giving you a hard time. Yeah he didn't have a controller, but he still was using the Dev Kit to run it. I mean technically it was still a trailor, just a really fucking impressive one.

Oh and just for the record and to seem less biased, I think the PS3 controller will easily be the worst of the three if they don't redesign it.

[Anton Djamoos]

Haha I was just giving you a hard time. Yeah he didn't have a controller, but he still was using the Dev Kit to run it. I mean technically it was still a trailor, just a really fucking impressive one.

Oh and just for the record and to seem less biased, I think the PS3 controller will easily be the worst of the three if they don't redesign it.
They are redesigning it last I heard because of the huge outcry against it. It's ugly as hell but I bet it's more comfortable than the one now. I wish that they would do something different though. Every single system by Sony now has essentially the same controller. I guess that it's good branding but it's just annoying as hell.

[Anton Djamoos]

no i didn't, its the same one I have had for more then a year now...lol
Last time I looked at it the Comedy Central logo froze so I thought that you changed it to just the Comedy Central logo. I was confused as to why you'd change it. Oh well, glad you didn't.

[clevername]

They are redesigning it last I heard because of the huge outcry against it. It's ugly as hell but I bet it's more comfortable than the one now. I wish that they would do something different though. Every single system by Sony now has essentially the same controller. I guess that it's good branding but it's just annoying as hell.

Yeah, I hadn't heard officially if it was being redesigned or not. I'm glad if they are. Thing is, I've always thought Sony had the most comfortable controller. The only time that this can be debated is Soul Calibur in which case both the Dreamcast and the Gamecube destroy it. DC was built for fighters anyway, and for some reason the placement on the GC is just better for that style fighter.

Then again, my arcade sticks don't work on GC, so there's a bummer.

And I love that you guys have a Horsemen of the Revolution group. That's totally BA. I support one hundred percent

[Anton Djamoos]

Yeah, I hadn't heard officially if it was being redesigned or not. I'm glad if they are. Thing is, I've always thought Sony had the most comfortable controller. The only time that this can be debated is Soul Calibur in which case both the Dreamcast and the Gamecube destroy it. DC was built for fighters anyway, and for some reason the placement on the GC is just better for that style fighter.

Then again, my arcade sticks don't work on GC, so there's a bummer.

And I love that you guys have a Horsemen of the Revolution group. That's totally BA. I support one hundred percent
You know you wanna join. I'll send you the image if you're interested and you can put it in your signature. The only catch is that you won't be allowed to hate on the Revolution anymore. We're very friendly though.

[clevername]

You know you wanna join. I'll send you the image if you're interested and you can put it in your signature. The only catch is that you won't be allowed to hate on the Revolution anymore. We're very friendly though.

I don't recall ever hating upon it. I do remember saying that I wasn't a fan of the controller back in the day, but I'm seeing the bright side to it. I think it's gonna be a great system.


...Will I still be able to buy/like a PS3?

[Anton Djamoos]

I don't recall ever hating upon it. I do remember saying that I wasn't a fan of the controller back in the day, but I'm seeing the bright side to it. I think it's gonna be a great system.


...Will I still be able to buy/like a PS3?
Of course. We Horsemen prefer the Revolution but we promote love among all systems, especially the Revolution.

[clevername]

Of course. We Horsemen prefer the Revolution but we promote love among all systems, especially the Revolution.

Yeah dude, I'm all for the Revolution. I really am excited to see the shit this controller will do. I just hope it's not hypersensitive...

[Anton Djamoos]

Yeah dude, I'm all for the Revolution. I really am excited to see the shit this controller will do. I just hope it's not hypersensitive...
I don't think it will be hyper sensitive, but I bet there's a way to make it more and less sensitive. You don't know how relieved I was that you could play with the Cube controller though. I was really scared that Nintendo blew it finally. Luckily they covered their grounds and it should be good.

[clevername]

I don't think it will be hyper sensitive, but I bet there's a way to make it more and less sensitive. You don't know how relieved I was that you could play with the Cube controller though. I was really scared that Nintendo blew it finally. Luckily they covered their grounds and it should be good.

Are you talking with that attachment or like.. a real controller. Either way is good with me, but I think I would prefer the real deal.

Oh and Nintendo will never "blow it". No matter what, they'll have an audience to sell to. It doesn't matter where they head with shit, there will always be nintendoites.

Oh and are you as excited for the Backwards as I am? If they can get namco, konami, or capcom behind them for this then it would easily be one of the best systems in existance. I mean, legal roms? COME ON that's amazing!

[Anton Djamoos]

Are you talking with that attachment or like.. a real controller. Either way is good with me, but I think I would prefer the real deal.

Oh and Nintendo will never "blow it". No matter what, they'll have an audience to sell to. It doesn't matter where they head with shit, there will always be nintendoites.

Oh and are you as excited for the Backwards as I am? If they can get namco, konami, or capcom behind them for this then it would easily be one of the best systems in existance. I mean, legal roms? COME ON that's amazing!
Either way you're right.

Legal roms would be even better because you'd have a controller instead of a keyboard. My god, that would be good. Plus they'll get a small graphics boost.

Anyone notice how every single video game thread turns into one about how awesome the Revolution will be?

[clevername]

Either way you're right.

Legal roms would be even better because you'd have a controller instead of a keyboard. My god, that would be good. Plus they'll get a small graphics boost.

Anyone notice how every single video game thread turns into one about how awesome the Revolution will be?

Actually I'm more entertained by the fact that really it became either you and I talking or me and someone else. And to think I just discovered these forums about a week ago haha

[Darren McLeod]

Did somebody say Revolution?

[Anton Djamoos]

Did somebody say Revolution?
That was clever. Darren, you slay me.