Manchester Orchestra - Mean Everything to Nothing

[Jason Tate]

Manchester Orchestra - Mean Everything to Nothing
Release Date: April 21st, 2009
Record Label: Favorite Gentlemen

Quick note to the rest of the albums coming out this year: The bar has just been set.

Over the years there have been a select group of artists that have become so well respected within our community that they have reached almost hallowed ground. Their recordings are considered by some as the pinnacle achievement of what our little music scene can create. These bands top many “all time favorite” lists – and even years later their influence and replayablity dominate the eardrums. I’d like to present to you the next candidate for admission: Manchester Orchestra.

I’m sorry to everyone that thought they’d be able to keep this band a secret for just a little bit longer, because after listening to their new release, Mean Everything to Nothing, it is undeniable that this band is poised to have an astonishing year. While the rest of the music listening population may be hyped on dance-pop or crunk-core, Manchester Orchestra have crafted an album that reminds us of the full blown power of rock music. An album that pounds your chest with each drum kick and rattles your brain with each swooping guitar line and melody. Channeling Brand New, the album is just accessible enough to draw in new converts – yet remain slightly enigmatic for the so called music enthusiast.

The album works best as a cohesive whole; each track fitting into the bigger picture. This allows the reprises to stand out and the band’s unique attributes to shine. The melodic guitar tones perfectly compliment lead singer Andy Hull’s hypnotic vocals and the band expands upon their previous work in a variety of ways. They toy with the listener by interweaving soft whispers and full blown snarl within the same track. The dichotomy works perfectly to entwine the listener’s attention amid the instruments, vocals, and lyrics. This level of well crafted intentionality showcases a band at the top of their game hell-bent on crafting a thematic experience between the headphones.

Your experience begins with “The Only One” – and as the first lines spill into the airwaves it’s hard to not be immediately captivated by the story unfolding before our ears. The track flirts with a mid-tempo pop sound while delivering some of my favorite lyrics from the album. I almost immediately smile at the lead singer’s revelation that he is “the only son of a pastor to do the things I do.” At roughly two and a half minutes the opening track is one of the shortest on the album, with most tracks walking the line between four and five minutes. The second track, “Shake it Out,” pushes this five minute mark – and is undoubtedly one of the biggest rock songs the band has written. It’s hard to not draw comparisons to Foo Fighters or recent Brand New as the guitar, bass, and drums playfully prove that instruments can be as emotionally charged as any vocal. I think it’s safe to say at this point Andy Hull has reached a level lyrically few others ever do; however, it’s the delivery of key lines that proves how you say it can be just as important as what you say. As Andy begins to scream … it’s impossible to not start inching the volume upward; hoping to capture the emotion within each swell.

The first single, “I’ve Got Friends,” moves fluidly between soft verses and one of the biggest hooks I’ve heard this year. The inevitability of this song’s anthem status is barely debatable – I find it tough to believe this won’t be one of the staples of their live shows for years to come. The layered chorus demands you sing along and is the perfect conduit to highlight the album’s top-drawer production: crisp sounds that allow the artist room to breathe without ever feeling heavy handed.

Each track brings its own new experience. From the heavy and brooding epic of “Pride” to the seemingly quick two minute “100 Dollars” – the band is capable of a variety of sounds that maintain a level of consistency rarely seen. The vocal delivery remains a highpoint and each track brings a level of familiarity to the table without ever feeling routine. If I were to pick a weak spot on the album, I want to say “My Friends Marcus” – however, the inclusion of a repeated line (found elsewhere on the album), as well as the inevitable fall after the emotional juggernaut that is “I Can Feel a Hot One,” makes it much more difficult. The album comes full circle as it ends with just as much force as it began. “Everything to Nothing” and “The River” seem to play off each other to form an ambitious lyrical journey of confusion and search for redemption -- a feast that leads one craving another bite.

Between the crashing sounds, the subtle whispers, the vocal chants, and the emotional reaction – we have the makings of a classic. We have an album that clearly bridges the gap between mainstream and underground. If everyone else in the world wants to listen to neon-pop or hipster-dance music … that’s fine … I can turn the volume up loud enough to drown you out.

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[Adrian Villagomez]

Is this their Deja Entendu?

[i_was_a_lid]

The only thing I dislike about this album so far is that I have to wait almost another month to hear it. I'm very jealous of you Mr. Tate!! Please hook us up with some more new track exclusives!!!!

[zubinmoosa]

Great review. Can't wait to hear this.

[DaTBoiDaN]

Welcome back to reviews =)

[thehereaway]

Very excited for this, hope it lives up to expectations.

[Nick Le]

Great review. I'm getting excited for this. Shake It Out is awesome.
And nice to see a Jason Tate review. Ahaha

[Jason Tate]

Is this their Deja Entendu?
ILAVLAC was their Deja.

[derian2219]

Awesome review and I can't even put into words how much I am anticipating this album.

[DaTBoiDaN]

Nice review Jason.

"If everyone else in the world wants to listen to neon-pop or hipster-dance music … that’s fine … I can turn the volume up loud enough to drown you out."

Can't wait for this album and tour support. Only a few more weeks to go!

[MarkyMark1984]

gets me even more excited for it!

[zFrog]

Can't wait to listen to this :(

[iamtaylorrr]

I can't wait to hear this. I envy those who are fortunate enough to get advances.

[ashiex3]

this just makes me more excited to get this.

[awakeohsleeper]

I cannot wait for this. I prefer the slower songs. Are there any to match up with the previous release?

This will be an amazing release. In fact, April 21st is a great day - this and As Cities Burn - I have a feeling the latter will be just as beautiful, if not as universally appreciated as the former.

[You Vandal]

Really good review. I love the last paragraph.

[Debut_Fin]

everyone should listen to Andy's side project, Right Away, Great Captain!, if they haven't done so already

[batmannj]

Can't wait. Shake It Out is one of the best songs I have heard all year. Is it one of the better tracks on the record?

[KingJohn_654]

oh boy! oh boy! oh boy!

[Anton Djamoos]

Vocal delivery on this album is stellar.

[yoyostring]

Holy balls i am so fucking excited.

[Snails]

Yes.

[I'm DC]

I'm crazy excited for this record!

[SSLYBY]

Do.Want.Now

[ilovesofie]

Nice review, I like your style, you should do this more.

[Keagan Ilvonen]

I can't wait any longer. Awesome review Jason.

[princesschad]

The bar was already set by Merriweather Post Pavilion this year.

[matt_garland]

Great review, Absolutely adore this band.

[Jason Tate]

The bar was already set by Merriweather Post Pavilion this year.
See: Last paragraph.

[therookielot]

Is this their Deja Entendu?
Exactly what I was thinking. I am as stoked as I was for deja as I am for this album.

[ijbet59]

great review, i cannot fucking wait!!

[keeplioving]

This will be an amazing release. In fact, April 21st is a great day - this and As Cities Burn - I have a feeling the latter will be just as beautiful, if not as universally appreciated as the former.

Ah, I can't wait for new ACB either. I'm seeing them tomorrow night and I really hope they play a good bit of new stuff

[delvec19]

aaaaannnndddd cant wait!

[princesschad]

See: Last paragraph.
I don't see anything that relates to MPP in that paragraph.

[RetardedInLove]

Could this be possibly better than I'm Like A Virgin?? I didn't think it was possible but this review made me think it is a real possibility. I can not wait for this album!

[Jason Tate]

I don't see anything that relates to MPP in that paragraph.
Look closer.

[HometownHero]

I don't see anything that relates to MPP in that paragraph.
"Hipster dance music"

[patpratt]

i need this album.

[bradnewman]

Good review. i am so pumped for this album.

[letdownagain]

I really liked this review, I'm very excited about this album. It's been a while since that happened. Every preview of every track I've heard so far has been great and only built excitement, which is what a good album should do.

[knowthisx]

Nice review, but now I'm irritated that I have to wait so much longer to hear this.
this is going to be a hard year for me to pick an AOTY...

[Helpless]

I've never been a fan, but I think I might check this one out.

[live.]

I liked MPP :shrug:
Nevertheless I am stoked for this

[serotoninzero]

Jason.

Know that I envy you right now.

[Drew Beringer]

I need to hear this!

[!?!]

good review i am even more excited

[mycuban]

i can't wait to hear this magical grandeur!

[owiseone35]

Man, I am pumped for this release.

[briXinRhands]

very excited to say the least

[Kid B]

I am sick of people calling Animal Collective things along the lines of "hipster dance music". They are so much more than that. The album is very accessible and there is no reason it should be called hipster other than the fact that Animal Collective has released some inaccessible albums. They are not dance music. If you can find a way to dance to that album and not feel completely out of place, you are either too in-the-zone on your own dancing to notice, or have downs. Seriously. I could just as easily call Manchester "hipster built to spill wannabe indie rock" but I don't. It is good music and I accept that. This isn't a review of MPP, it is a review of METN. No need to make biased claims against good music because your heart is in pop-punk. Go read the review of MPP. If the last paragraph says something like "If people think that hipster indie built to spill wannabes are the best of the year, that's okay, I can turn this up loud enough to drown it out. And I can dance to it!" then someone tell me. Music doesn't have to a war. There isn't always something to prove.

[HometownHero]

I am sick of people calling Animal Collective things along the lines of "hipster dance music". They are so much more than that. The album is very accessible and there is no reason it should be called hipster other than the fact that Animal Collective has released some inaccessible albums. They are not dance music. If you can find a way to dance to that album and not feel completely out of place, you are either too in-the-zone on your own dancing to notice, or have downs. Seriously. I could just as easily call Manchester "hipster built to spill wannabe indie rock" but I don't. It is good music and I accept that. This isn't a review of MPP, it is a review of METN. No need to make biased claims against good music because your heart is in pop-punk. Go read the review of MPP. If the last paragraph says something like "If people think that hipster indie built to spill wannabes are the best of the year, that's okay, I can turn this up loud enough to drown it out. And I can dance to it!" then someone tell me. Music doesn't have to a war. There isn't always something to prove.
If you cant dance to that hipster shit then you must be socially awkward

[Petzl]

Ohhhhhhhh man, I am so pumped for this album.

[bobby runs]

Can't wait until April 21st.

[Ari Christos]

I am sick of people calling Animal Collective things along the lines of "hipster dance music". They are so much more than that. The album is very accessible and there is no reason it should be called hipster other than the fact that Animal Collective has released some inaccessible albums. They are not dance music. If you can find a way to dance to that album and not feel completely out of place, you are either too in-the-zone on your own dancing to notice, or have downs. Seriously. I could just as easily call Manchester "hipster built to spill wannabe indie rock" but I don't. It is good music and I accept that. This isn't a review of MPP, it is a review of METN. No need to make biased claims against good music because your heart is in pop-punk. Go read the review of MPP. If the last paragraph says something like "If people think that hipster indie built to spill wannabes are the best of the year, that's okay, I can turn this up loud enough to drown it out. And I can dance to it!" then someone tell me. Music doesn't have to a war. There isn't always something to prove.

Animal Collective wasn't mentioned in the review at all.

[mena]

My love for this band grows more and more with everything they do. The new videos and all of the live performances posted on youtube have gotten me so excited for this. I don't expect anything less than amazing from these guys. Only about 3 more weeks.

[bobby runs]

Uhh ohh. Trouble has already started on a Jason Tate review. I hope it stops.

[letdownagain]

Animal Collective wasn't mentioned in the review at all.

...or anywhere in the thread. However, I do agree that "Music doesn't have to a war. There isn't always something to prove".

[Jason Tate]

I am sick of people calling Animal Collective things along the lines of "hipster dance music". They are so much more than that. The album is very accessible and there is no reason it should be called hipster other than the fact that Animal Collective has released some inaccessible albums. They are not dance music. If you can find a way to dance to that album and not feel completely out of place, you are either too in-the-zone on your own dancing to notice, or have downs. Seriously. I could just as easily call Manchester "hipster built to spill wannabe indie rock" but I don't. It is good music and I accept that. This isn't a review of MPP, it is a review of METN. No need to make biased claims against good music because your heart is in pop-punk. Go read the review of MPP. If the last paragraph says something like "If people think that hipster indie built to spill wannabes are the best of the year, that's okay, I can turn this up loud enough to drown it out. And I can dance to it!" then someone tell me. Music doesn't have to a war. There isn't always something to prove.
My heart is not in pop-punk. You're reading far too into things.

[mallyland]

Hello, longest review ever.

[mushroom]

I'm still not sure how the "review tilt" works exactely.

[zFrog]

I am sick of people calling Animal Collective things along the lines of "hipster dance music". They are so much more than that. The album is very accessible and there is no reason it should be called hipster other than the fact that Animal Collective has released some inaccessible albums. They are not dance music. If you can find a way to dance to that album and not feel completely out of place, you are either too in-the-zone on your own dancing to notice, or have downs. Seriously. I could just as easily call Manchester "hipster built to spill wannabe indie rock" but I don't. It is good music and I accept that. This isn't a review of MPP, it is a review of METN. No need to make biased claims against good music because your heart is in pop-punk. Go read the review of MPP. If the last paragraph says something like "If people think that hipster indie built to spill wannabes are the best of the year, that's okay, I can turn this up loud enough to drown it out. And I can dance to it!" then someone tell me. Music doesn't have to a war. There isn't always something to prove.

Agreed.

[dpatrickguy]

anyone see the review in AltPress? Andy looked like a mountain man

[Ari Christos]

Hello, longest review ever.
I think Vheissu has this one beat. It's been a while, but I remember grabbing a meal for while I read that.

[Jason Tate]

I'm still not sure how the "review tilt" works exactely.
http://www.absolutepunk.net/faq.php?faq=albumreviews#faq_viewal bumreview

[Drew Beringer]

Hello, longest review ever.
http://www.absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=273927

http://www.absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=145502

hehe

[poppa Q]

Animal Collective wasn't mentioned in the review at all.

...or anywhere in the thread. However, I do agree that "Music doesn't have to a war. There isn't always something to prove".

lolz read the thread.

[Jason Tate]

http://www.absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=273927

http://www.absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=145502

hehe
GPress I think beat us all:

http://www.absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=98680

[live.]

Lol @ MO being Pop-Punk

[Dastly]

Already got my ticket to see them on their last day in Orlando.

[Drew Beringer]

GPress I think beat us all:

http://www.absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=98680
omg I totally forgot about that one haha holy shit

[jbaseball44]

I was wondering if this album would bring Jason out of review retirement. I'll be interested to finally hear it, although MPP does have a strong hold on my top album of the year so far (even if it is hipster dance music).

[Blakebear]

I really like the way you wrapped up that review, Tate.

Ending a review is always difficult for me, but that was pretty clever ;) (I'm not being sarcastic)

I really can't wait to listen to this. It seems like its going to be a lot different than their first, which might turn me off. Either way, it's gonna be interesting.

[tommyhaych]

Once I saw that the tate-master had reviewed this, I had an inkling it would be special.

Can..



Not...




Wait...

[Jason Tate]

omg I totally forgot about that one haha holy shit
That sucker is like a choose your own adventure novel.

[246toothpicks]

Ok because of all the hoopla I just checked out Animal Collective for the first time on their myspace. I listened to the song "peacebone"... What the hell is this? Seriously, how can this ever be lumped into any indie rock category? To me, I had flashbacks from that NES game the Fantastic Adventures of Dizzy. (if you're old like me & remember that, go listen)
In a genre of its own: LSD-Aficionado Ambient Dance

[Kbm600]

Jason you're a great writer, I'm hoping this record will do for me as Tell All Your Friends or Deja Entendu did for others since I missed out being involved in the era of those albums.

[TwoTongues]

I'm sure I'm going to love this now

[trappedintime]

Amazing review. I'm super stoked for this album to come out. But you're being incredibly jerky to post such a review of an album that's not coming out for another month!

[DaTBoiDaN]

Ok because of all the hoopla I just checked out Animal Collective for the first time on their myspace. I listened to the song "peacebone"... What the hell is this? Seriously, how can this ever be lumped into any indie rock category? To me, I had flashbacks from that NES game the Fantastic Adventures of Dizzy. (if you're old like me & remember that, go listen)
In a genre of its own: LSD-Aficionado Ambient Dance
Haha that might not be the best song to start with. Check out the albums Merriweather Post Pavilion and Feels. Much more accessible imo.

[zubinmoosa]

GPress I think beat us all:

http://www.absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=98680
Wow. But an epic band deserves an epic review.

[grgbndkng13]

saw them at SXSW and was blown away at the performance...hope the album matches that intensity

[billyboatkid]

Wow, guess I have to check this out

[TalkShowsOnMute]

Awesome review, I cannot wait for this album.

[Steve Henderson]

Good to have you back in the review section.

[tm decomposer]

Lol this album is way to overrated Jason.

[hockeyguitar99]

See: Last paragraph.
Comments like that are uneducated and take away from your overall point. The first thing is that Animal Collective actually aren't hipster dance music. There are plenty of actual hipster dance bands, but they're not one of them.

[Outtathaway!]

moneyhat.

[hockeyguitar99]

Animal Collective wasn't mentioned in the review at all.
Buy anyone who has been on this site for more than a few months knows that they're who he's talking about.

[Jason Tate]

Comments like that are uneducated and take away from your overall point. The first thing is that Animal Collective actually aren't hipster dance music. There are plenty of actual hipster bands, but they're not one of them.
:hitself:

[RonStoppable]

I'm lizzing in anticipation of this album.

Great review.

[Ari Christos]

Comments like that are uneducated and take away from your overall point. The first thing is that Animal Collective actually aren't hipster dance music. There are plenty of actual hipster bands, but they're not one of them.
Bringing up a band that was not mentioned or compared to anywhere throughout the review is irrelevant and seemingly doesn't even have a point.

[Jason Tate]

Lol this album is way to overrated Jason.
Oh shit, you're right - I should somehow change how I feel and go edit the review to properly reflect your thoughts. :rolleyes:

[hockeyguitar99]

Bringing up a band that was not mentioned or compared to anywhere throughout the review is irrelevant and seemingly doesn't even have a point.
The "hipster dance music" he referred to was Animal Collective.

[mallyland]

http://www.absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=273927

http://www.absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=145502

hehe

Drew, you make me feel embarrassed -- my reviews are never nearly that long haha.

[Kbm600]

Oh shit, you're right - I should somehow change how I feel and go edit the review to properly reflect your thoughts. :rolleyes:
Please don't let the asshats get you off the review-train. I'd like to see more reviews from you.

[Jason Tate]

The "hipster dance music" he referred to was Animal Collective.
Seems like a giant leap of faith to assume what I am talking about. My "See: Last paragraph" was in reference to me not caring what other people are listening to/liking at the moment -- I'm still going to like/enjoy what I like. The fact that it was in response to an Animal Collective fan should hold little relevance to my over all point.

[hockeyguitar99]

Seems like a giant leap of faith to assume what I am talking about. My "See: Last paragraph" was in reference to me not caring what other people are listening to/liking at the moment -- I'm still going to like/enjoy what I like. The fact that it was in response to an Animal Collective fan should hold little relevance to my over all point.
I was referring to you saying what you said in the last paragraph, not the actual comment. And it's not a huge leap of faith, considering that's how you have frequently referred to Animal Collective.

[Jason Tate]

Please don't let the asshats get you off the review-train. I'd like to see more reviews from you.
We'll see.

My thoughts on me reviewing albums in the review database:

http://www.absolutepunk.net/journal.php?do=showentry&e=130562

[Kbm600]

We'll see.

My thoughts on me reviewing albums in the review database:

http://www.absolutepunk.net/journal.php?do=showentry&e=130562
I can understand where you're coming from, but I think it'd be worth it. Especially as considering you're the "leader" of the site, people tend to pay more attention to the release if you were to review it. Good or bad?

Either way, this was a good review, and I'm sure the CD is even better.

[Jason Tate]

I was referring to you saying what you said in the last paragraph, not the actual comment. And it's not a huge leap of faith, considering that's how you have frequently referred to Animal Collective.
What I said in the last paragraph never once mentions Animal Collective. You're drawing that parallel. Which is fine by me - but let's be clear that it's you putting 1 and 1 together. Your "2" is not necessarily mine.

[fearthesloths]

Is this album full of religious lyrics too? thats the only thing that really turned me off their first one..

[hockeyguitar99]

What I said in the last paragraph never once mentions Animal Collective. You're drawing that parallel. Which is fine by me - but let's be clear that it's you putting 1 and 1 together. Your "2" is not necessarily mine.
Fair enough. Leaving AC out of it, I don't think that it necessarily helped your point to mention genres that you think are worse.

[wroteurname]

Go Nova.

[bobby runs]

Seems like a giant leap of faith to assume what I am talking about. My "See: Last paragraph" was in reference to me not caring what other people are listening to/liking at the moment -- I'm still going to like/enjoy what I like. The fact that it was in response to an Animal Collective fan should hold little relevance to my over all point.
Boom, roasted.

[WhoSaidThat?]

Is it too late to say "Killer review, Jason."? Ah, what the fuck...

Killer review, Jason.

[Jason Tate]

Fair enough. Leaving AC out of it, I don't think that it necessarily helped your point to mention genres that you think are worse.
And, again, you're missing the point of that statement. The point was that I don't care what others were listening to/liked/enjoyed ... because this is the style of music I like and am listening to.

[Ari Christos]

Fair enough. Leaving AC out of it, I don't think that it necessarily helped your point to mention genres that you think are worse.

But his point was "I'm going to enjoy this despite what is popular." Which, I think you're misconstruing as "These genres suck, listen to Manchester Orchestra."

[hockeyguitar99]

And, again, you're missing the point of that statement. The point was that I don't care what others were listening to/liked/enjoyed ... because this is the style of music I like and am listening to.
I understand that, but I think your review and score of the album speak to that, which makes the last statement unnecessary.

[hockeyguitar99]

But his point was "I'm going to enjoy this despite what is popular." Which, I think you're misconstruing as "These genres suck, listen to Manchester Orchestra."
See my response to him saying the same thing you did.

[Jason Tate]

I understand that, but I think your review and score of the album speak to that, which makes the last statement unnecessary.
If we are going to spend time nitpicking what is necessary or unnecessary in my stylistic choices while writing album reviews -- I'm going to need to go put on another pot of coffee.

[tm decomposer]

Oh shit, you're right - I should somehow change how I feel and go edit the review to properly reflect your thoughts. :rolleyes:
Just saying mang. I wish Andy could bring back some of that angry, punch that we heard in Like a Virgin.

[Ari Christos]

See my response to him saying the same thing you did.
Both posts were made at the same time. Jesus.

[Kurt Retenauer]

i think it's totally fair to say whatever one wants about a particular genre of music, seeing as they're opinionated. it's no different than saying 'you can listen to what you want, but i like this, so i'm going to turn mine up louder to hear what i like, rather than what i don't like'

[hockeyguitar99]

If we are going to spend time nitpicking what is necessary or unnecessary in my stylistic choices while writing album reviews -- I'm going to need to go put on another pot of coffee.
Sorry, I didn't realize constructive criticism was frowned upon. I enjoy your reviewing style, but obviously you couldn't care less about what I think so I'll just stop.

[Jason Tate]

Just saying mang. I wish Andy could bring back some of that angry, punch that we heard in Like a Virgin.
Like in tracks 2, 3, 4, 5, and 11? This album is far harder, and consistently "angry," compared to their last.

[hockeyguitar99]

Both posts were made at the same time. Jesus.
There was nothing angry about what I said, I just didn't want to repeat myself. Calm down.

[Jason Tate]

Sorry, I didn't realize constructive criticism was frowned upon. I enjoy your reviewing style, but obviously you couldn't care less about what I think so I'll just stop.
Misconstruing a point is not constructive criticism IMO.

[hockeyguitar99]

Small gripes aside, good review. I am working on my review currently. Great album, but I don't see as big of a mainstream appeal as you seem to.

[hockeyguitar99]

Misconstruing a point is not constructive criticism.
I understand the point. But just because I understand it doesn't magically make it necessary.

[Jason Tate]

I understand the point. But just because I understand it doesn't magically make it necessary.
Understood.

[Uwe Blab]

You always know an album is especially great when Jason reviews it. I want to hear this so badly.

[c_rob2700]

This review does what all positive reviews should do, make you want to listen to the album at all costs. Fantastic review, Jason. I hope you start getting back into reviewing again, I love the way you write.

Also, lol @ Animal Collective defenders. Why are you so hot and bothered by people making indirect references to MPP? Just listen to what you want to listen to and quit walking in to every music discussion on earth just to tell us how it's the greatest album you've ever heard. We fucking get it

[Kid B]

My heart is not in pop-punk. You're reading far too into things.
I didn't mean it as a bad thing, I enjoy pop-punk and have respect for it, if that came off the wrong way.

[Kid B]

Also, good review, good to see one from you Tate, very excited to hear the album.

[aoftbsten]

man, what a tease... there's another month before this comes out! This review only made the wait longer.

[roju]

good review. i couldn't be more excited for this album!!

[letdownagain]

If we are going to spend time nitpicking what is necessary or unnecessary in my stylistic choices while writing album reviews -- I'm going to need to go put on another pot of coffee.

It's probably best if you do that. I wish I knew why a Manchester Orchestra review became The Official Fight over Animal Collective/I like Deja, lulz! thread.

Just saying mang. I wish Andy could bring back some of that angry, punch that we heard in Like a Virgin.

Have you heard the whole CD yet? Besides that, Shake It Out seems as punchy, if not more so, than Virgin. I never got the impression that element was going to be absent from this CD.

[airik625]

So stoked.

[c_rob2700]

From everyone that had already listened to this album (granted,the 5 people I talked to) the first thing they said is that it's more heavier

[CircaEnder]

ILAVLAC was their Deja.
I would agree

[CircaEnder]

It's probably best if you do that. I wish I knew why a Manchester Orchestra review became The Official Fight over Animal Collective/I like Deja, lulz! thread.



Have you heard the whole CD yet? Besides that, Shake It Out seems as punchy, if not more so, than Virgin. I never got the impression that element was going to be absent from this CD.
I would say that the live version of shake it out has that punch..the album version, almost seems forced..and i hate to say that because, this is one of my favorite bands..and Andy is with out a question one of the most talented people in music today.

[the1]

I. Want. This!1!

[the1]

From everyone that had already listened to this album (granted,the 5 people I talked to) the first thing they said is that it's more heavier
Did they also say it was more betterer??

[lauren<3s music]

Can not wait. Nice review.

[BryterJonah]

The bar was set at Merriweather, The Crying Light, and (supremely) Veckatimest.

But I have no doubt Manchester shall live up to their past yet again. Well done Jason.

[c_rob2700]

Did they also say it was more betterer??
haha, touche

[seans seatbelt]

Look closer.
because they have a synth pad, right?

[BryterJonah]

I don't see anything that relates to MPP in that paragraph.
I don't see any problem with enjoying "hipster dance music" and loving Manchester as well.

I don't let one stellar thing obscure the essence of other stellar things.

[jess_heartbreak]

they are releasing the cd and playing in nashville on the same day...i cannot put into words how excited i am for this.

[c_rob2700]

People are responding to the "hipster dance music thing" just like he expected. Haha, well played Jason

[Jason Tate]

because they have a synth pad, right?
Clearly.

[sweetforever]

Very well written review, beyond excited for this album.

[Chris Fallon]

Great work, boss -- what else can I say that hasn't already been said? I want this record badly!

[Chris Fallon]

Hello, longest review ever.
Haha when I first started writing as a user, I wrote some longer ones.

[Shinobi1791]

Nice Review. Hadn't heard of Manchester Orchestra before i joined this site and since then i've been listening to I've Got Friends quite a bit. And i'm enjoying it quite a bit, might have to check the new album out.

[Merkin]

there it is

[HometownHero]

Sorry, I didn't realize constructive criticism was frowned upon. I enjoy your reviewing style, but obviously you couldn't care less about what I think so I'll just stop.
Tried giving you credit in some other thread but you came into this one like a fucking tool. You are fifteen years old. You are not more educated in music then anyone else on this site or any site. Animal Collective imo IS a hipster band. They always have they just never got a ton of mainstream attention. No on give a flying fuck whether you are working on a review or not. I've read some of yours. They are quite awful. Your writing doesn't hold up and neither does mine for that matter. Cut the guy a fucking break you both like the same album. Good review Jason. I cant wait to hear the rest of it. I hope they didn't shy away from religious themes and sadness. I need something dark in my life every now and then

[katieissweet]

I can not wait to hear all of this. Great review.

[kittypants]

Pretty stoked for this. Hope it's a huge leap from ILAVLAC.

[Illuminate]

Great review Jason. You said ILAVLAC was Manchester's "Deja".. Does that mean you think it's a better record than Mean Everything to Nothing? .. Also, favorite track? Or way too hard to decide?

[Spenny]

Looking forward to it.
Good review Jason.

[alert=danger]

Man I want to hear this album now.
I really can not wait for it.
Such an amazing band.

Also welcome back to the reviewing wagon. Hopefully there will be some more Jason reviews!

[zFrog]

Anyone got the tracklisting for this yet?

Click Here (http://www.absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=823792)

[S9Dallasoz]

Go Nova.
Go Zags.

Looking forward to hearing this.

[pganders]

everyone should listen to Andy's side project, Right Away, Great Captain!, if they haven't done so already
yeah right away, great captain is def my favorite band right now...listening to bitter end and eventually home back to back is pretty epic

[relaxrelapse830]

Awesome review. So stoked for this album.

[MyWorldEntire]

I like what I've heard from this so far from this record, it will be interesting to see if it can dethrone MPP from my top spot.

[lightcollapse]

Great review, although I thought by the way you hyped it up you would have given it a higher score.

[what_ever]

hell fucking yes

[Mens]

It's nice to read a first review at ap.net on this record. I'm sure MO wanted it that way. I really like what I've heard so far on the record, I don't think it will be a classic though. It's not original enough in my opinion.

[smogs]

I cannot wait for this album to come out!

[The:Whaler]

only 93%?

:)

this is one of those albums that i know i'll remember the first time i heard it.

[MyWorldEntire]

hahaha at people being disappointed with a 93.

[CS Lewis]

Honestly, was it possible for this album to get a bad review? This website has been hyping up MO for the longest. Don't get me wrong, Manchester Orchestra is definitely my favorite band of recent years. And I am very happy that this website is giving them lots of support and exposure. I just still feel as if it's because of their close ties with Brand New. Which is by no means a bad thing, it's great when bigger bands give smaller bands exposure. I just can't help but think that a lot of this support stems solely from their ties with Brand New. I honestly don't remember many people being crazy about ILAVLAC when it first hit. Yeah, it had its loyal fans but wasn't generally considered a heavy hitter of 2006 by most people. As a matter of fact, I believe Jason placed it at number 28 for his top 30 favorite albums of 2006. Which, I think is rather low if we are to consider it MO's Deja. Just a thought. And I'm not calling Jason out, just saying that I think a lot of people, myself included started paying that album and this band a lot more attention when their name became more linked with that of Brand New's. My point is that I, like the rest of you, are very excited for this album. Let's try not to get lost in the hype though and really appreciate the album for what it is when it hits store shelves and digital download. Good review, Jason.

[c_rob2700]

tl,dr.

Back to the wardrobe!

[mick2late]

Great review...For whatever reason I have never gotten into Manchester Orchestra. Looks like I have a reason now.

[tait]

so excited for this now

[Juturna25]

love this band so much; however, i doubt they'll make it mainstream.


review was okay, not that great.

[Juturna25]

tl,dr.

Back to the wardrobe!
you are soooooooooo witty, damn...

[yellowhouse]

See: Last paragraph.
Are you saying Animal Collective is hipster dance music or...?

[shimmyshakes]

oh god, i cannot wait.

[Shakriel]

Cannot wait for this, comes out the week of my birthday.

[TeppeiKensrue]

Are you saying Animal Collective is hipster dance music or...?
clearly

[jellybeanxtine]

dear god they need to play a show in dc/va

[tm decomposer]

It's probably best if you do that. I wish I knew why a Manchester Orchestra review became The Official Fight over Animal Collective/I like Deja, lulz! thread.



Have you heard the whole CD yet? Besides that, Shake It Out seems as punchy, if not more so, than Virgin. I never got the impression that element was going to be absent from this CD.
yep. I've had the CD for two weeks or so.

[Yagami]

Is this Absolutepunk.net's answer to Album of the Decade? Haha...

But seriously, I am quite excited to listen to this record. I'm Like A Virgin... was a solid album.

[Here It Goes]

1) I got lost on the whole "hipster" topic. Isn't the very defintion of the term hipster indicative of an imaginary superiority of your own musical tastes? Keeping one step up on what's cool at the moment? That's what I thought anyways. To me, Animal Collective songs all sound the same, and are the defintion of what I thought hipster was, but I could be wrong. Either way, what that has to do with the emotion and lyrical talent that Manchester Orchestra bring to their music, I'm not sure. At the very least, MC's albums won't sound like they're recorded underwater, but that's just my take.

2) I wish I had this album, pronto. The fact that I don't is making me feel...post-menopausal. Primarily mediocre. Peculiarly maddened.

[DI Pistola]

April cannot come fast enough.

Stupid April.

[-ben]

fuck i need this now.

[tpen892004]

Honestly, was it possible for this album to get a bad review? This website has been hyping up MO for the longest. Don't get me wrong, Manchester Orchestra is definitely my favorite band of recent years. And I am very happy that this website is giving them lots of support and exposure. I just still feel as if it's because of their close ties with Brand New. Which is by no means a bad thing, it's great when bigger bands give smaller bands exposure. I just can't help but think that a lot of this support stems solely from their ties with Brand New. I honestly don't remember many people being crazy about ILAVLAC when it first hit. Yeah, it had its loyal fans but wasn't generally considered a heavy hitter of 2006 by most people. As a matter of fact, I believe Jason placed it at number 28 for his top 30 favorite albums of 2006. Which, I think is rather low if we are to consider it MO's Deja. Just a thought. And I'm not calling Jason out, just saying that I think a lot of people, myself included started paying that album and this band a lot more attention when their name became more linked with that of Brand New's. My point is that I, like the rest of you, are very excited for this album. Let's try not to get lost in the hype though and really appreciate the album for what it is when it hits store shelves and digital download. Good review, Jason.
I agree 100%,

When ILAVLAC came out, the album wasn't nearly as popular as the new album is now, and the new album isnt even out yet. But I'm sure i'l be satisfied with the new record, MO always delivers.

[BeerNSluts]

Seems like it is getting great reviews everywhere. Check out another review for the record here (http://www.decoymusic.com/reviews/2840)

[tanglehymn]

This was a really well written review, regardless whether or not you agree with what it's saying. Just how it was written I mean.

I'm excited for this album and seeing them play Philly.

[bgkersey]

here's to hoping i can get past how bad they are live to actually listen to this album - especially if it's as good as you say it is.

[Autumns Fall]

Iam so excited to get hear this.

[hockeyguitar99]

Tried giving you credit in some other thread but you came into this one like a fucking tool. You are fifteen years old. You are not more educated in music then anyone else on this site or any site. Animal Collective imo IS a hipster band. They always have they just never got a ton of mainstream attention. No on give a flying fuck whether you are working on a review or not. I've read some of yours. They are quite awful. Your writing doesn't hold up and neither does mine for that matter. Cut the guy a fucking break you both like the same album. Good review Jason. I cant wait to hear the rest of it. I hope they didn't shy away from religious themes and sadness. I need something dark in my life every now and then
I said it wasn't dance music, not that it wasn't hipster music. When you learn to read, I'll take you a little more seriously.

[gemini089]

im eagerly anticipating this and hoping it lives up to my expectations...

[gracky]

how did this thread turn into a war over whether or not animal collective is hipster music? and why do people keep beating the dead horse about it?
i can't wait to hear this album, end of story.

[Remnants]

not for me.

[atticusfinch]

So refreshing to see a review from you, Jason.

I can't wait to have this album.

[iamtaylorrr]

here's to hoping i can get past how bad they are live to actually listen to this album - especially if it's as good as you say it is.
Whaaaaaaa? Were you even paying attention when they were playing?

[SouthernCross40]

"My Friend Marcus" is the low-point of the album...
Dear sweet Jesus...
Jason is this album Aeroplane??

[sargentlgfuad]

if the vocals get the lowest score than you know this album is the shiiiit.
and even Alternative Press gave it a 5 (which, when i saw it, i literally through my hands up in the air, and whispered hell yes! finally!)

[Broden Terry]

I haven't heard anything from Manchester Orchestra but I might have to give a listen to a couple of songs.
Nice to see you reviewing again Jason. It's so well written.

[Shooter McGavin]

this just makes me want this so much more. I've been waiting patiently for a long time. My patience is about to run out.

[HometownHero]

I said it wasn't dance music, not that it wasn't hipster music. When you learn to read, I'll take you a little more seriously.
"Comments like that are uneducated and take away from your overall point. The first thing is that Animal Collective actually aren't hipster dance music. There are plenty of actual hipster bands, but they're not one of them."

You said that cock. Remember what you say to people. Care to apologize? Cause you sir are a dumb ass. You do not know shit about music and your tastes are totally irrelevant because you can't even keep up with the music you pretend to like

[cako86]

got me even more excited, should be an awesome album

[Broden Terry]

Wow. I've Got Friends just blew my mind. That was absolutely amazing.

[dirtysneakers]

Want

[DItaliaO]

just downloaded an interview on xbox live with these guys. the first album was decent. i'm eagerly awaiting for this album to see how much their sound grew.

[hockeyguitar99]

"Comments like that are uneducated and take away from your overall point. The first thing is that Animal Collective actually aren't hipster dance music. There are plenty of actual hipster bands, but they're not one of them."

You said that cock. Remember what you say to people. Care to apologize? Cause you sir are a dumb ass. You do not know shit about music and your tastes are totally irrelevant because you can't even keep up with the music you pretend to like
It's nice when somebody pokes fun at my age then shows me that I'm far more mature than they are.

Also, I went back and read the actual post, and guess what? It says "hipster dance music" not hipster music. I actually listen to the music that I say I do, that claim is probably the worst argument you could have come up with. Check my last.fm if you want proof.

[Julia Conny]

Incredible album ... I don't think I can come close to thinking about if I like it better than Virgin, but they succeeded in proving how much intensity the can pack into every song. There's just something so special about what they do.

[insomniaczach]

with comparisions to brand news last 2 albums, weezer's pinkerton, and not a bad review on the net, i think this album will be one of 3 or 4 albums this year that will make for a summer of great music

[yellowhouse]

clearly
But they are so good!

Thank you for my answering my question for Jason, by the way!

[yellowhouse]

The bar was set at Merriweather, The Crying Light, and (supremely) Veckatimest.

But I have no doubt Manchester shall live up to their past yet again. Well done Jason.
Veckatimest is amazing, holy shit.

[wroteurname]

Go Zags.

Looking forward to hearing this.
stop spamming the thread.

[allisterkid]

Thanks for a good review, I really wish you did more of them as I've rarely disagreed with your highly rated albums. What was the last review you did? The last I remember was for Coming Home by New Found.

[BryterJonah]

Veckatimest is amazing, holy shit.
Too bad it's hipster trance music and should therefore be totally ignored.


also, excellent username.

[zombie!pirate!]

this album reminds me of A plea For Purging's new disc

[fadedmemories]

and the Manchester Orchestra lovefest begins.

[allisterkid]

Last review he did was Direction back in 07. At the top of the page of a review you can click on the username and see a list of the all the reviews they have done in chronological ordcer
That is just way too long. My friends and I used to look forward strictly to Jason's reviews, just cause we knew we were bound to fall in love with most of those albums. I asked Jason before why he doesn't review anymore and it's somewhat understandable, but I really wish he reviewed more often. If people talk shit... who cares? haha, look at Tony's review of Ace Enders or Scotty Web's review of Gatsby's. People will disagree with reviews, but Jason's music taste is what helped shape this site into what it is, and limiting it to recs in his blog just doesn't suffice for me.

[baysidefan]

this review makes me THAT much more excited for this album. i can't wait to see them a few days after this drops, shall be SICK.

[popofeliz]

i cant wait to hear this cd

and if i see another brand new comment on a manchester thread i'll go crazy i fucking hate it. manchester has been since their first ep far better than brand new...and i like brand new tho

[shes.a.ghost]

Would rather to listen to many other bands.

[Jason Tate]

Would rather to listen to many other bands.
Would rather read many other comments.

[birtcho]

cant wwait

[tehnesi]

April 21st and April 29th cannot come quick enough. anybody know if theres gonna be any bundle pre-order deals? I already got the vinyl on the way, but their merch hasn't updated in awhile.

[Brissona]

you just gave me goose bumps Tate. Awesome review, I can't wait to see these guys this friday for 5 BUCKS!!!

[HometownHero]

It's nice when somebody pokes fun at my age then shows me that I'm far more mature than they are.

Also, I went back and read the actual post, and guess what? It says "hipster dance music" not hipster music. I actually listen to the music that I say I do, that claim is probably the worst argument you could have come up with. Check my last.fm if you want proof.
Sorry so its not hipster dance music. Its just hipster music. Excellent point made.

[hockeyguitar99]

Sorry so its not hipster dance music. Its just hipster music. Excellent point made.
Yes, Jason has often referred to it has hipster dance music, and that's wrong. So that was exactly the point I was trying to make, and that was also what I said to you, so thank you.

[c_rob2700]

As much as I want to hear this album now, I really hope it doesn't leak. This band deserves what's coming to them

[streydogg]

Some of these replies are pretty emo

Can't wait for the album

[B-Bones]

Ya his vocals go SO MUCH BETTER.

[HometownHero]

Yes, Jason has often referred to it has hipster dance music, and that's wrong. So that was exactly the point I was trying to make, and that was also what I said to you, so thank you.
Wrong according to who? A fifteen year old boy with no background or education in music? So just an annoying music fan? Yeah your opinion does not mean dick

[hockeyguitar99]

Wrong according to who? A fifteen year old boy with no background or education in music? So just an annoying music fan? Yeah your opinion does not mean dick
Actually, I professionally write reviews for a website, so I DO have a background in music. They are simply not a dance band. That's all it is. There are plenty of actual dance bands that I wouldn't have a problem with him labeling as such, but he's not talking about those bands. Also, I'm not the only one who's saying that they aren't a dance band. Look through the thread, there's at least one other person who agrees with me. Look in plenty of other Animal Collective news posts and blogs by staff. You have no idea what you're talking about if you're trying to say that I'm the only one saying this.

[HometownHero]

Actually, I professionally write reviews for a website, so I DO have a background in music. They are simply not a dance band. That's all it is. There are plenty of actual dance bands that I wouldn't have a problem with him labeling as such, but he's not talking about those bands. Also, I'm not the only one who's saying that they aren't a dance band. Look through the thread, there's at least one other person who agrees with me. Look in plenty of other Animal Collective news posts and blogs by staff. You have no idea what you're talking about if you're trying to say that I'm the only one saying this.
You are not the only one saying it but you are the only one who is an annoying jackass about it. Professionally? Give me a fucking break. No respectable site hires a fifteen year old to write reviews for them that has no training or anything. Give me a link to this professional site

[hockeyguitar99]

You are not the only one saying it but you are the only one who is an annoying jackass about it. Professionally? Give me a fucking break. No respectable site hires a fifteen year old to write reviews for them that has no training or anything. Give me a link to this professional site
I was having a conversation with the reviewer, then you started being an asshole about it. Stop bringing my age into this, it's irrelevant. Also, who said I had no training? I've taken many, many extracurricular classes on writing, stop making stupid assumptions, you don't know what the hell you're talking about.

indierockreviews.com

[jbaseball44]

Why the fuck does this have a user rating of 50?
I don't believe it has leaked yet, at least to my knowledge, so any user who is voting is just making up a number.

[TachyonEvan]

How is this compared to ILAVLAC?

[PierceTheVeil]

You guys crashed it-leaked.

[TachyonEvan]

Don't blame us.

[ShadowAmI]

The ending of Shake It Out is just epic. Overused adjective, but fitting in this case.

[sodamnclever]

I am listening to it now and so far so good.

[Broclee]

Fuck, it leaked.

[jfork]

I was having a conversation with the reviewer, then you started being an asshole about it. Stop bringing my age into this, it's irrelevant. Also, who said I had no training? I've taken many, many extracurricular classes on writing, stop making stupid assumptions, you don't know what the hell you're talking about.

indierockreviews.com
he writes reviews, you gotta give him credit for that. good reviews though? not even close! he's one of the guys from that terrible site highbeam, which folded a while ago apparently.

http://highbeamreview.com/review.php?id=331

who starts off a review w/ "fuck so and so"? pretentious mediocrity

[hockeyguitar99]

he writes reviews, you gotta give him credit for that. good reviews though? not even close! he's one of the guys from that terrible site highbeam, which folded a while ago apparently.

http://highbeamreview.com/review.php?id=331

who starts off a review w/ "fuck so and so"? pretentious mediocrity
Why would you quote me? Highbeam is a terrible site, which is why I stopped writing there. When I left, the site fell apart. I would never defend that piece of writing as good, because I don't think it is. I also wouldn't say anything on this site that I wrote is anything above average. The few that I like on highbeam are Forgive Durden and Two Tongues, and anything on the new site I write for, indierockreviews.com.

[WhoSaidThat?]

Why would you quote me? Highbeam is a terrible site, which is why I stopped writing there. When I left, the site fell apart. I would never defend that piece of writing as good, because I don't think it is. I also wouldn't say anything on this site that I wrote is anything above average. The few that I like on highbeam are Forgive Durden and Two Tongues, and anything on the new site I write for, indierockreviews.com.
Hahaha, I remember when that site promised me free concert tickets. That was when I knew it was too damn good to be true.

[hockeyguitar99]

Hahaha, I remember when that site promised me free concert tickets. That was when I knew it was too damn good to be true.
When did highbeam promise you free concert tickets? Haha. Drew is an asshole. He stopped responding to anybody from the site in like September and Klatzke and I kept it alive before we both caved.

[WhoSaidThat?]

When did highbeam promise you free concert tickets? Haha. Drew is an asshole. He stopped responding to anybody from the site in like September and Klatzke and I kept it alive before we both caved.
I got a PM in my AP Inbox.

[hockeyguitar99]

I got a PM in my AP Inbox.
Well it worked out for me for a while. It was nice while it lasted.

[GHomesIsTheIdea]

ok this review is shit...hardly does the album justice...you write like a fourth grader..so corny!

[Jason Tate]

ok this review is shit...hardly does the album justice...you write like a fourth grader..so corny!
You look like Harry Potter.

[GHomesIsTheIdea]

You look like Harry Potter.
you write like hagrid

[Jason Tate]

you write like hagrid
I had to go look up who that is ... you just fucking name dropped a Harry Potter character?

:lol:

[GHomesIsTheIdea]

I had to go look up who that is ... you just fucking name dropped a Harry Potter character?

:lol:
you name dropped harry potter :wave:

[Jason Tate]

you name dropped harry potter :wave:
Not my fault you look like him.

[Drew Beringer]

HEY I LOVE THE HARRY POTTER SERIES NO MAKING FUN!

and this is a good review, if you think you can write a better one Harry, go ahead. I doubt you can.

[Chris Fallon]

Classy guy.

Anyone who criticizes anyone's writing style without having proof their own is superior needs to simply shut the hell up.

[FUCKDIRTYWIPES]

this cd is so good...completely met my expectations.

[TheBaroness]

Great review, Jason.

The band have really pushed their sound to the next level on this release. I love it, and I think (hope) it will do well for them)

Many parts on this album remind me of little-known Georgia band, Five Eight. I wonder if they were an influence on MO.

[Jason Tate]

Great review, Jason.

The band have really pushed their sound to the next level on this release. I love it, and I think (hope) it will do well for them)

Many parts on this album remind me of little-known Georgia band, Five Eight. I wonder if they were an influence on MO.
Thank you! Glad you enjoy it as much as I do.

I'll have to check them out.