Whitechapel - This Is Exile

[Handraa]

Whitechapel - This Is Exile
Record Label: Metal Blade Records
Release Date: July 8, 2008

Over the last few months I've heard plenty of hype about Whitechapel on Myspace, forums on various sites, and at shows I have recently attended. After seeing This Is Exile on the list of albums that needed reviewing, I couldn't help myself but request it and see if lived up to my expectations I had about this band.

From start to finish Whitechapel delivers. This Is Exile gets right into it with the track titled "Father Of Lies." Everything you could expect from a death metal band is thrown at you within the first thirty seconds of the track: chugging guitars, amazing drum work, and deep growls. As Whitechapel slaughters on with their death metal mayhem, it is evident they have plenty of talent.

To say the least, Whitechapel's guitarist are amazing. Ben Savage (lead guitar), Zach Householder, and Alex Wade create a three guitar attack with wonderful leads and sound amazing together. This is evident in the song "Possession," because the lead guitarist plays a blood-boiling lead, and the backing guitarist creates a beatdown of a riff. This relentless attack happens more than once, and it often comes out of nowhere. Set breakdowns are becoming a big problem in the metal scene today, but these guitarist have lots of skill and are very creative, so don't expect any structure to their songs at all. If you're a sucker for insane solos, be sure to give This Is Exile a listen. Backing up the crazy riffs and mind blowing leads is Whitechapel's drummer. Each song on this album would not be as good if it weren't for him. With relentless double bass and nice fills, this drummer makes every breakdown that much heavier.

Whitechapel's vocalist Phil Bozeman has a great deep growl, and he can also put some rhythm into his extremely low growl. Sometimes I wonder how someone can growl so low, but he can pull it off. He also can let out some higher pitch growls, and maybe he should incorporate that more in the next album. Sometimes it sounds like the devil is raging inside him (yes that was a reference to Brand New, and irrelevent to this review). His lyrics on This Is Exile are complex and outstanding. They show the struggles of everyday living, and it is obvious he is not too fond of religion. This is evident in the title track, "This world is ours and we won't stand still/ Infinitude sets thy vision toward the deep/ Civilization will fall by the hand of all disease/ Banished of all life and awoken from the grave/ Eternal light will now by washed way/ Desecration proclamation/ How it feels to be demoralized/ The life you live is now rotten and cold/ This is exile."

"Exalt" and "Somatically Incorrect" are the best tracks on the album because they display the band as a whole working together and sounding great. "Death Becomes Him" and "Of Legions" are great instrumental tracks that show how great the guitarists and drummer can work together. There is no way to find the heaviest song on this album because every song on this album is heavy.

Whitechapel will be on tour this summer, so if you are a big metalhead make sure to go out and check them out. Judging by this album, I'm sure they would put on a great show. Frequent (and well placed) breakdowns, and oustanding ammounts of talent make This Is Exile a great addition to the deathcore scene.

Bury Your Dead; Whitechapel's The Somatic Defilement; Between the Buried and Me; a heavier Called to Arms; deathcore
myspace.com/whitechapel (http://www.myspace.com/whitechapel)

[jaywarden1]

They are just shitty deathcore where all the songs sound the same. While I'm not the biggest fan of death metal I will listen to it any day over some generic deathcore.
clearly you aren't a fan of death metal because these guys definitely ARE NOT shitty deathcore

though I'm really not looking to start an outrageous debate about genres, this is death metal in its finest form. The music is extremely heavy and technical and the vox are brutal as fuck. Deathcore, at least from my understanding, uses more generic metalcore type riffs and attempts to become heavier by using mind numbing chug chugging (see bring me the horizon...), whereas here the musicians are actually talented and write extremely technical shit.

[Klatzke]

clearly you aren't a fan of death metal because these guys definitely ARE NOT shitty deathcore

though I'm really not looking to start an outrageous debate about genres, this is death metal in its finest form. The music is extremely heavy and technical and the vox are brutal as fuck. Deathcore, at least from my understanding, uses more generic metalcore type riffs and attempts to become heavier by using mind numbing chug chugging (see bring me the horizon...), whereas here the musicians are actually talented and write extremely technical shit.
Actually no. Deathcore, in technical terms, is a combination of the breakdown-esque nature of hardcore and metalcore fused with the technicality of death metal -- which is exactly what this is; it has both extreme technicality borrowed from death metal and the numerous breakdowns of metalcore and hardcore.

[FaceLixeMurder]

Saw them two weeks ago, was pretty impressed, but I can only take a few songs or they start to blend together in a death metal auditory stew and my ears start bleeding :)

[poi]

clearly you aren't a fan of death metal because these guys definitely ARE NOT shitty deathcore

though I'm really not looking to start an outrageous debate about genres, this is death metal in its finest form. The music is extremely heavy and technical and the vox are brutal as fuck. Deathcore, at least from my understanding, uses more generic metalcore type riffs and attempts to become heavier by using mind numbing chug chugging (see bring me the horizon...), whereas here the musicians are actually talented and write extremely technical shit.
Technical? Hahaha.

[more heart]

I just see this band among the sea of Br00t4l deathcore bands with illegible band names. Stuff like this goes right over my head.

[Handraa]

I just see this band among the sea of Br00t4l deathcore bands with illegible band names. Stuff like this goes right over my head.
Yeah, this is the first band of that kind that I've actually paid any attention too.

[more heart]

Yeah, this is the first band of that kind that I've actually paid any attention too.
The closest I get to this band is bands like ABACABB and Arsonist Get All the Girls

[jaywarden1]

clearly you aren't a fan of death metal because these guys definitely ARE NOT shitty deathcore

though I'm really not looking to start an outrageous debate about genres, this is death metal in its finest form. The music is extremely heavy and technical and the vox are brutal as fuck. Deathcore, at least from my understanding, uses more generic metalcore type riffs and attempts to become heavier by using mind numbing chug chugging (see bring me the horizon...), whereas here the musicians are actually talented and write extremely technical shit.

Actually no. Deathcore, in technical terms, is a combination of the breakdown-esque nature of hardcore and metalcore fused with the technicality of death metal -- which is exactly what this is; it has both extreme technicality borrowed from death metal and the numerous breakdowns of metalcore and hardcore.

Thanks for explaining it dude. Obviously that idiot has no idea what he is talking about. I don't get why many people confuse deathcore and death metal because they sound pretty different

this is exactly the stupid what genre is what debate i did not want to start, but wow you guys are right, you really got me. " metalcore type riffs and attempts to become heavier by using mind numbing chug chugging" and "combination of the breakdown-esque nature of hardcore and metalcore fused with the technicality of death metal" are just such different definitions like wow I totally am an "idiot". It's heavy, there's lots of breakdowns, and it's technical. is it deathcore? is it death metal? WHO THE FUCK GIVES A FUCK

[Klatzke]

this is exactly the stupid what genre is what debate i did not want to start, but wow you guys are right, you really got me. " metalcore type riffs and attempts to become heavier by using mind numbing chug chugging" and "combination of the breakdown-esque nature of hardcore and metalcore fused with the technicality of death metal" are just such different definitions like wow I totally am an "idiot". It's heavy, there's lots of breakdowns, and it's technical. is it deathcore? is it death metal? WHO THE FUCK GIVES A FUCK
You're an idiot. There's a blatant difference between the two.

[OdeToTheSun]

I'm going to be the only one to say that I actually like this album. Their first one was better IMO, but whatever.

[jaywarden1]

You're an idiot. There's a blatant difference between the two.
Ok then shoot over to Whitechapel's myspace and tell they're deathcore instead of death metal I'm sure they'll really give a shit

[Klatzke]

Ok then shoot over to Whitechapel's myspace and tell they're deathcore instead of death metal I'm sure they'll really give a shit
No one said they would.

[Klatzke]

Ok then shoot over to Whitechapel's myspace and tell they're deathcore instead of death metal I'm sure they'll really give a shit
No one said they would.

[Klatzke]

Ok then shoot over to Whitechapel's myspace and tell they're deathcore instead of death metal I'm sure they'll really give a shit
No one said they would.

[Handraa]

Ok then shoot over to Whitechapel's myspace and tell they're deathcore instead of death metal I'm sure they'll really give a shit
DEATHCORE ROOLZ D00D!

[texasuckfest]

core...metal... who cares... people should judge bands by talent...
ps. this cd is not good, at all.

[Klatzke]

Hah the assholes are coming out of the woodwork for this review.

[Handraa]

Hah the assholes are coming out of the woodwork for this review.
Funny isn't it?

[jaywarden1]

They probably already know. Why are you getting so angry because you don't know your genres. I'm sure if you made all these same remarks on Lambgoat you would be bombarded by and endless stream of people calling you out on your stupidity. They would fucking crucify you

I am most definitely not getting "so angry" and how does one post translate into me "not knowing my genres"? I've never heard of Lambgoat and i have no idea what that has to do with anything either.

I simply came into this thread to disagree with some guy calling this album "generic deathcore".
I then threw out a loose definition for death core as using metalcore riffs and breakdowns as i've understood it to be.

THEN i get someone quoting me saying NO THATS NOT DEATHCORE, DEATHCORE IS - metalcore with hardcore breakdowns with the technicality of death metal, which seems extremely similar to my definition.

Then people are quoting me calling me an idiot, so I responded by pointing out that Whitechapel's myspace say's they're death metal, so if eveyone quoting me is so correct about the album being "deathcore" why don't they tell Whitechapel they're wrong and continue this stupid debate with them - because as i stated in my first post I don't care for these ludicrous what-genre-is-what debates because they are stupid and everyone thinks there right.

THEN you feel the need to quote me talking about some random band saying their fans would crucify me then make a point to call me stupid.

So I'm not getting "so angry", nor am I getting "so angry" because I don't know my genres. I am just annoyed at people on this site endlessly trying to cause stupid debates and always being so gung ho to quote random people and call them stupid over absolutely nothing.

You obviously have issues if when reading my posts and their subsequent quotings you're first response is to quote me saying im stupid and should be "fucking" crucified.

[Klatzke]

I am most definitely not getting "so angry" and how does one post translate into me "not knowing my genres"? I've never heard of Lambgoat and i have no idea what that has to do with anything either.

I simply came into this thread to disagree with some guy calling this album "generic deathcore".
I then threw out a loose definition for death core as using metalcore riffs and breakdowns as i've understood it to be.

THEN i get someone quoting me saying NO THATS NOT DEATHCORE, DEATHCORE IS - metalcore with hardcore breakdowns with the technicality of death metal, which seems extremely similar to my definition.

Then people are quoting me calling me an idiot, so I responded by pointing out that Whitechapel's myspace say's they're death metal, so if eveyone quoting me is so correct about the album being "deathcore" why don't they tell Whitechapel they're wrong and continue this stupid debate with them - because as i stated in my first post I don't care for these ludicrous what-genre-is-what debates because they are stupid and everyone thinks there right.

THEN you feel the need to quote me talking about some random band saying their fans would crucify me then make a point to call me stupid.

So I'm not getting "so angry", nor am I getting "so angry" because I don't know my genres. I am just annoyed at people on this site endlessly trying to cause stupid debates and always being so gung ho to quote random people and call them stupid over absolutely nothing.

You obviously have issues if when reading my posts and their subsequent quotings you're first response is to quote me saying im stupid and should be "fucking" crucified.
Lol are you illiterate?

[jaywarden1]

Lol are you illiterate?
"lol"

[Handraa]

"lol"
Lol lol

[lurker411_k9]

I'm pretty sure Whitechapel know that they are not death metal, but with being high up on a straight death metal tour headlined by Suffocation, it's fair to ask.

and yeah, I like this cd quite a bit. Sorry guys.

[PureBlueSF]

Genre arguments, serious fuckin' business.

CD is good, definitely better than most deathcore. Though if this review was on Encyclopedia Metallum it would get a 0% based entirely on the fact the genre name ends in -core. Or if it were on Lambgoat, a 4 out of 10 because it has breakdowns. lol.

[AWilhelmPetter]

I'm getting quite sick of people listening to a band and just saying "Deathcore!" and automatically assume that it is absolute bollocks. I listen to anything from Pendulum to Whitechapel, simply because I give anything a chance, not automatically judging stuff based on its genre, and try to have an open mind for all types of music. I think Whitechapel is a great band, as well as Suicide Silence and Bring Me the Horizon, but apart from those three I reckon bands labled as deathcore are pretty fucking bad. It is really annoying when people call deathcore death metal or metalcore post-hardcore - the differences are so destingt it should not be possible to mistake them for each other, but just taking an entire genre and labling it as shit is just narrow minded and pretty childish. No one really cares about my opinion and it will probably either a) be ignored or b) quoted with some sort of sarcastic comment, but it's just too anoying to read this shit without writing something.

[PureBlueSF]

I'm getting quite sick of people listening to a band and just saying "Deathcore!" and automatically assume that it is absolute bollocks. I listen to anything from Pendulum to Whitechapel, simply because I give anything a chance, not automatically judging stuff based on its genre, and try to have an open mind for all types of music. I think Whitechapel is a great band, as well as Suicide Silence and Bring Me the Horizon, but apart from those three I reckon bands labled as deathcore are pretty fucking bad.

You seriously must have read my mind. I hate it when all these "tr00 metal d00dz" who listen to black metal and death metal and ONLY black metal and death metal refuse to listen to bands just because they're deathcore. I certainly don't limit myself to any certain genres; I'm not afraid to admit that I like bands like Whitechapel, nor am I afraid to admit I also like bands like All Time Low.

I'm sure if you made all these same remarks on Lambgoat you would be bombarded by and endless stream of people calling you out on your stupidity.
You forgot the part where they'd say "F.AGGOT SHIT BAND".

[soilborn]

They sell out shows and sell a lot of records. That's all that matters.

[chelseaxsmilexD]

clearly you aren't a fan of death metal because these guys definitely ARE NOT shitty deathcore

though I'm really not looking to start an outrageous debate about genres, this is death metal in its finest form. The music is extremely heavy and technical and the vox are brutal as fuck. Deathcore, at least from my understanding, uses more generic metalcore type riffs and attempts to become heavier by using mind numbing chug chugging (see bring me the horizon...), whereas here the musicians are actually talented and write extremely technical shit.
i'm not sure where i stand with this band because a lot of their songs do kinda sound the same, but many others are insane and awesome. Bring me the horizon used to be deathcore, so maybe you should have said.. old bmth, because now, they have metalcore songs. I actually think they're better now because they're more original and they have more synamic musicianship... but anyway... wc is on the fence. A bad album could kill 'em. A good album could make 'em. But suicide silence is better.

[chelseaxsmilexD]

I'm here to END THIS (note if you want to know what pros and everyone else says about whitechapel, skip to the end and skip the synopsis of the two. Unless you need to know.)

Though a sub-genre of metalcore, deathcore is heavily influenced by modern death metal in its speed, heaviness, and approach to chromatic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chromatic), heavily palm muted (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palm_mute)riffing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riff) and dissonance (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consonance_and_dissonance). Traditional growls (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_grunt), and screaming are prevalent, often combined with metalcore vocals. Much of deathcore features breakdowns (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Break_(music)#Metal_and_Punk) and melodic riffs common in metalcore- so say wikipedia on deatchore.

Death metal is an extreme (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extreme_metal) subgenre of heavy metal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heavy_metal_music). It typically employs fast tempos, heavily distorted guitars, deep growling (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_growl) vocals, blast beat (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blast_beat) drumming, and complex song structures with multiple tempo changes- so say wikipedia on death metal....

Basically, death metal is like the cousin of grind, with deeper vocals, and it's less repetitive. Deathcore is metalocre and death metal if they had a baby.

Wikipedia says that Whitechapel is DEATHCORE

[chelseaxsmilexD]

The closest I get to this band is bands like ABACABB and Arsonist Get All the Girls
I listen to the latter, but i think that suicide silence and bmth are gr8 too, jfac is too.

[more heart]

I listen to the latter, but i think that suicide silence and bmth are gr8 too, jfac is too.
Wow is all I have to say to that post right now. So much wrong going on there.

[Handraa]

Wow is all I have to say to that post right now. So much wrong going on there.
haha

[chelseaxsmilexD]

I'm getting quite sick of people listening to a band and just saying "Deathcore!" and automatically assume that it is absolute bollocks. I listen to anything from Pendulum to Whitechapel, simply because I give anything a chance, not automatically judging stuff based on its genre, and try to have an open mind for all types of music. I think Whitechapel is a great band, as well as Suicide Silence and Bring Me the Horizon, but apart from those three I reckon bands labled as deathcore are pretty fucking bad. It is really annoying when people call deathcore death metal or metalcore post-hardcore - the differences are so destingt it should not be possible to mistake them for each other, but just taking an entire genre and labling it as shit is just narrow minded and pretty childish. No one really cares about my opinion and it will probably either a) be ignored or b) quoted with some sort of sarcastic comment, but it's just too anoying to read this shit without writing something.
exactly... i love all three of those bands... i also keep an open mind to music. It's ridiculous when people refuse to listen to a genre. If you honestly don't like the styling (as my hatred for rap/hip-hop) then don't listen to it, but don't bash it for being (insert word here)-core.go listen to abigail williams (amzing) and cradle of filth (also amazing)

[chelseaxsmilexD]

Wow is all I have to say to that post right now. So much wrong going on there.
u just don't like the genre... wutever... you cannot say that it's all "scene-shit" because it's not. I'm not saying u ever would/did/will... but I'm saying, if you don't like a genre don't give opinions. also, if you like scene bands you cannot say it's scene crap...... just broadcasting, but t was also for you too.

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u just don't like the genre... wutever... you cannot say that it's all "scene-shit" because it's not. I'm not saying u ever would/did/will... but I'm saying, if you don't like a genre don't give opinions. also, if you like scene bands you cannot say it's scene crap...... just broadcasting, but t was also for you too.
Your usertitle makes so much sense now.

Here's what was wrong with the post you responded to me with: Bring Me the Horizon is just metal. Not death metal or deathcore, just metal. In addition, Suicide Silence and Job For A Cowboy are quite possibly the two worst bands in this genre and here's an fyi for you: I listen to various bands in this genre so I know what I'm talking about. The ones you listed are quite possibly the worst.

And since when did we shorthand on AP, "gr8"?????

[chelseaxsmilexD]

Your usertitle makes so much sense now.

Here's what was wrong with the post you responded to me with: Bring Me the Horizon is just metal. Not death metal or deathcore, just metal. In addition, Suicide Silence and Job For A Cowboy are quite possibly the two worst bands in this genre and here's an fyi for you: I listen to various bands in this genre so I know what I'm talking about. The ones you listed are quite possibly the worst.

And since when did we shorthand on AP, "gr8"?????
lol @ the first comment.

Bring Me The Horizon was a cheap version of deathcore, but passable. They changed to a metalcore sound. I was going through a bring me the horizon phase back then. I was obsessed with diamonds aren't forever. Now I'm sad i chose that username. It's like tatooing a girl's name on your chest, and then you break up next day.

Suicide Silence gets me with the mind-jarring tempo changes, the vocalists range and the songs period. Hate the lyrics but whatever. Job For A Cowboy's old shit is good to listen to but it's redundant and forgettable.

Their new stuff is too generic, however. It's been done before. Wayyyyy too many times. Also, I listen to various band in the genre too. Black Dahlia Murder, As Blood Runs Black, See You Next Tuesday, War From A Harlots Mouth, iwrestledabearonce. several others too.

also i'm extremely tired & restless=shorthand

[more heart]

lol @ the first comment.

Bring Me The Horizon was a cheap version of deathcore, but passable. They changed to a metalcore sound. I was going through a bring me the horizon phase back then. I was obsessed with diamonds aren't forever. Now I'm sad i chose that username. It's like tatooing a girl's name on your chest, and then you break up next day.

Suicide Silence gets me with the mind-jarring tempo changes, the vocalists range and the songs period. Hate the lyrics but whatever. Job For A Cowboy's old shit is good to listen to but it's redundant and forgettable.

Their new stuff is too generic, however. It's been done before. Wayyyyy too many times. Also, I listen to various band in the genre too. Black Dahlia Murder, As Blood Runs Black, See You Next Tuesday, War From A Harlots Mouth, iwrestledabearonce. several others too.

also i'm extremely tired & restless=shorthand
I never said you didn't listen to bands in the genre. I just said that you listen to the worst bands in the genre and that Bring Me th Horizon is and never was deathcore. They are metalcore at best. I've heard Count Your Blessings and all Oli does is sing in a thrashy voice, which, doesn't make the band deathcore. Find me the songs that you think make sound like Bring Me the Horizon a deathcore band.

[chelseaxsmilexD]

I never said you didn't listen to bands in the genre. I just said that you listen to the worst bands in the genre and that Bring Me th Horizon is and never was deathcore. They are metalcore at best. I've heard Count Your Blessings and all Oli does is sing in a thrashy voice, which, doesn't make the band deathcore. Find me the songs that you think make sound like Bring Me the Horizon a deathcore band.
Pray For Plagues, Black And Blue, Rawwwrrr (or however it's spelled), Medusa. The album is cheap deatchore... not really deathcore, but it leans towards that moreso than metalcore. mc is like tdwp, new bmth, motionless in white, chariot, august burns red, inhale exhale, in fear and faith

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Pray For Plagues, Black And Blue, Rawwwrrr (or however it's spelled), Medusa. The album is cheap deatchore... not really deathcore, but it leans towards that moreso than metalcore. mc is like tdwp, new bmth, motionless in white, chariot, august burns red, inhale exhale, in fear and faith
I've lsitened to Medusa some many times it's not funny. All Oli does is sing in a thrashy voice and that's it. I'll say this again to you, Bring me the Horizon isn't and never was deathcore.

And Motionless In White is the worst band I've heard lately.

[Handraa]

I've lsitened to Medusa some many times it's not funny. All Oli does is sing in a thrashy voice and that's it. I'll say this again to you, Bring me the Horizon isn't and never was deathcore.

And Motionless In White is the worst band I've heard lately.
Motionless In White annoys the piss out of me.

[chelseaxsmilexD]

I've lsitened to Medusa some many times it's not funny. All Oli does is sing in a thrashy voice and that's it. I'll say this again to you, Bring me the Horizon isn't and never was deathcore.

And Motionless In White is the worst band I've heard lately.
brokencyde's worse. u have to admit, no matter how much you despsise a band, they will always be worse.

[more heart]

brokencyde's worse. u have to admit, no matter how much you despsise a band, they will always be worse.
Well it's still no excuse for a band like Motionles In White to be as shitty as they are.

[more heart]

Motionless In White annoys the piss out of me.
Most of the Fearless -core bands do. The only one who seems to have something going for them is The Word Alive

[Handraa]

Most of the Fearless -core bands do. The only one who seems to have something going for them is The Word Alive
I like them, but I enjoy Blessthefall

[more heart]

I like them, but I enjoy Blessthefall
Well, the jury is still out on me for Blessthefall. At least they no longer have Craig which means they've got something going for them.

[Handraa]

Well, the jury is still out on me for Blessthefall. At least they no longer have Craig which means they've got something going for them.
Yeah that's true.

[PureBlueSF]

And Motionless In White is the worst band I've heard lately.

But dude, Ultimate Guitar gave them a 10 out of 10!!!!111 (http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/reviews/compact_discs/motionless_in_white/when_love_met_destruction/index.html)

[Klatzke]

But dude, Ultimate Guitar gave them a 10 out of 10!!!!111 (http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/reviews/compact_discs/motionless_in_white/when_love_met_destruction/index.html)
hahahah holy crap. Their guitarist messaged me on myspace once bitching me out for "talking shit" although I never did. I pointed that out with a nice little retort and he never responded.

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hahahah holy crap. Their guitarist messaged me on myspace once bitching me out for "talking shit" although I never did. I pointed that out with a nice little retort and he never responded.
I bad mouthed Broadway Calls on here and somehow one of the band memebers messaged me on MySpace about my comments and tried to play it off like, "We don't care. What do you know? You're just a kid". Haha fuck that band.

[PureBlueSF]

I remember reading about Broadways Calls dropping off of Warped and saying something along the lines of "We left because it wasn't fun playing with Christian jocks who played REALLY HEAVY music for Jesus", lol.

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I remember reading about Broadways Calls dropping off of Warped and saying something along the lines of "We left because it wasn't fun playing with Christian jocks who played REALLY HEAVY music for Jesus", lol.
That's exactly why I bad mouthed them on the site. Sometimes you just have to fucking deal with shit and roll with the punches. Obviously they can't deal because instances like that are a common occurance with that band.

[Dymytry Vance]

I am most definitely not getting "so angry" and how does one post translate into me "not knowing my genres"? I've never heard of Lambgoat and i have no idea what that has to do with anything either.

I simply came into this thread to disagree with some guy calling this album "generic deathcore".
I then threw out a loose definition for death core as using metalcore riffs and breakdowns as i've understood it to be.

THEN i get someone quoting me saying NO THATS NOT DEATHCORE, DEATHCORE IS - metalcore with hardcore breakdowns with the technicality of death metal, which seems extremely similar to my definition.

Then people are quoting me calling me an idiot, so I responded by pointing out that Whitechapel's myspace say's they're death metal, so if eveyone quoting me is so correct about the album being "deathcore" why don't they tell Whitechapel they're wrong and continue this stupid debate with them - because as i stated in my first post I don't care for these ludicrous what-genre-is-what debates because they are stupid and everyone thinks there right.

THEN you feel the need to quote me talking about some random band saying their fans would crucify me then make a point to call me stupid.

So I'm not getting "so angry", nor am I getting "so angry" because I don't know my genres. I am just annoyed at people on this site endlessly trying to cause stupid debates and always being so gung ho to quote random people and call them stupid over absolutely nothing.

You obviously have issues if when reading my posts and their subsequent quotings you're first response is to quote me saying im stupid and should be "fucking" crucified.
Note the genre liston myspace is very limited. It's hardcore, metal, death metal, grind....

[kevinAIWW]

screw all these deathcore genres and fighting over em. these dudes are MEEETALLL. ;P

[PureBlueSF]

http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll150/cryoni/Wrong.jpg

'Nuff said.

(loltracecyrus)

[Inhale 777]

i don't care dude if they shitty or not. that band is fucking awsome.

[Dystroxia]

I honestly think you rated this about 20% too low.

[DeviateRogue]

Your review doesn't really match your score :/

[The Blue Note]

I'm here to END THIS (note if you want to know what pros and everyone else says about whitechapel, skip to the end and skip the synopsis of the two. Unless you need to know.)

Though a sub-genre of metalcore, deathcore is heavily influenced by modern death metal in its speed, heaviness, and approach to chromatic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chromatic), heavily palm muted (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palm_mute)riffing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riff) and dissonance (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consonance_and_dissonance). Traditional growls (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_grunt), and screaming are prevalent, often combined with metalcore vocals. Much of deathcore features breakdowns (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Break_(music)#Metal_and_Punk) and melodic riffs common in metalcore- so say wikipedia on deatchore.

Death metal is an extreme (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extreme_metal) subgenre of heavy metal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heavy_metal_music). It typically employs fast tempos, heavily distorted guitars, deep growling (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_growl) vocals, blast beat (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blast_beat) drumming, and complex song structures with multiple tempo changes- so say wikipedia on death metal....

Basically, death metal is like the cousin of grind, with deeper vocals, and it's less repetitive. Deathcore is metalocre and death metal if they had a baby.

Wikipedia says that Whitechapel is DEATHCORE
By the definitions, it seems as if Whitechapel is Death Metal, not Deathcore. Can't trust Wikipedia...