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Scott Weber
11/21/05, 05:39 PM
The Sound of Animals Fighting – Tiger and the Duke
Release Date: February 14, 2005
Record Label: Unknown



The Sound of Animals Fighting is a mysterious band formed with the purpose of creating something out of the norm. The band is comprised of members from Rx Bandits, Finch, Rich Balling (ex-Rx Bandits) and Anthony Green of Saosin and Circa Survive fame. Their music is experimental, the transitions progressive, and the lyrics were improvised on the spot. The members of The Sound of Animals Fighting borrow musical stylings from each of their respective bands, as the drumming is distinctly Rx Bandits, as well as the guitar rhythms and picking patterns. While all the members of the band remain nameless, they are referred to in the liner notes as “The Tortoise,” or “The Ferret.” All in all, there are 15 animals associated with this collaborative project, including the producers and engineers. The album itself is nine tracks long, but there are really only four songs, as five of the tracks are instrumental interludes.

After a slow, arduous interlude, the album breaks into a familiar voice screaming out in Act I. Tempo variations and free flowing instrumentation give the song a chaotic feel, but melodic melodies and sections of structure bring balance to the song. Fast picking along guitar riffs plow through verses into a vocal assault that is the chorus. The song’s time changes and distinct Rx Bandits sound are brought into the forefront as the song slashes into a breakdown. The breakneck pace of the guitar riffs takes center stage throughout this extremely long bridge/breakdown, finally slowing down to re-introduce the chorus again.

After this song lies my main problem with the album – the interludes. As soon as a song is over, all the flow is broken by what seem to be hastily thrown together interludes that use strange synth effects. They have no sense of purpose nor do they add to the fine experience that is this band – rather, they detract from it. But, they are only interludes, and they can be skipped if you like – I know I chose to, simply because the full band tracks are so stellar. Therefore I will not discuss them any more – you have been warned.

Act II begins with a math rock intro, with notes being hit at unpredictable times. At this moment, the Rx Bandits sound is extremely evident, as the style and sound of the guitars and drums are identical to their album The Resignation. After the math-rock intro, Anthony lends his vocals in a pre-chorus, which blasts forth into an extremely melodic chorus. While each member of The Sound of Animals Fighting seems to do his own thing, the various parts are brought together in this strong chorus. The following verse offers up yet another familiar voice (wink, wink). Tempo stops and Mars Volta-ish changes of pace make this song yet another fascinating addition to the record.

After another interlude, Act III opens with a strange, spacey intro with spoken word countered by a lazy delivery of a vocal melody in the background. Then, the song immediately changes pace into another strong chorus with Anthony wailing “We’re hanging from our ankles…” While the chorus is enjoyable, there is a lack of unity to this song. The transitions between the verses and choruses are sudden and are missing natural progression. This is the first major flaw in any of the Acts on the album. While the music itself is still enjoyable, this song needed more unifying elements to it. This critique is only strengthened as the song seems to randomly transition into a slow, Pink Floyd like breakdown. (That comparison is actually made in the liner notes themselves – more on that later.)

The final song is Act IV, and it has a truly chaotic intro that re-introduces themes and guitar parts from the earlier Acts, one by one. It’s an awesome recap to remind you of what you’ve been listening to this entire time, and gives the album a cohesive feel that it had been lacking at times. The vocals in the first verse are coupled with tight guitar arpeggios. This is followed by completely unpredictable hit timing, then a dark and distorted bass solo that brings the song into the hardest chorus of the CD full of brutally harsh vocals. The album then fades off into the distance with one final postlude.

One thing that must be mentioned along with the music itself is how spectacular the other things that come with the CD are. The album art is gorgeous, and the liner notes are possibly the coolest thing I have seen in years. Not only are there lyrics, but there are two entire pages dedicated to explaining how the band explored new ideas. Themes throughout recording, like “ascending diminished triads” are listed. Each song has its own paragraph describing the transitions, the style of picking used, the scale, and the musical significance to the imagery the band is trying to convey. It’s absolutely incredible and completely original.

While this album is worth buying for the liner notes alone, the music itself is totally innovative. The band achieves the progressive rock sound successfully, and while there are mistakes or parts that I didn’t necessarily enjoy, that’s part of being innovative. For the most part, the music of the album is great – I love the math-rock and hard-hitting choruses. I did not enjoy the interludes, and since they occupy nearly half of the total album time that was a key detracting factor from my listening experience. The band is unpredictable and does new things that a listener may not expect or agree with, and it’s important to know that before purchasing this album. The Sound of Animals Fighting have created a record that is not about spoon-fed music or standard song formats. It’s an innovative sound that holds more integrity than virtually anything else you’ll hear today.

deecee85
11/21/05, 06:38 PM
An ascending diminished triad isn't a theme. Repeating the ascending diminished triad during key points in the song would make it a theme.

Do you even know what you're talking about? Or are you just repeating what you read in the liner notes to sound smart?

Scott Weber
11/21/05, 06:50 PM
An ascending diminished triad isn't a theme. Repeating the ascending diminished triad during key points in the song would make it a theme.

Do you even know what you're talking about? Or are you just repeating what you read in the liner notes to sound smart?
uh, I said that was something that was listed. i'm not trying to sound smart, i'm doing exactly what you said I was, telling people what it said. that whole paragraph talks about the liner notes. idiot. did you even read the review? or are you just trying to sound smart?

deecee85
11/21/05, 06:57 PM
I see right through you, Scott Weber

Scott Weber
11/21/05, 07:00 PM
I see right through you, Scott Weber
haha, yes master. i wasn't trying to be smart, i was just citing the liner notes - that's why there's quotes around it buddy. besides, i wrote this review like 8 months ago.

deecee85
11/21/05, 07:58 PM
I actually realized what you were saying right after I hit reply, but my ego is too big to admit that i was wrong.

Scott Weber
11/21/05, 08:16 PM
haha, it happens.

brutusUbastard
11/21/05, 09:08 PM
I know two other members besides Anthony Green, R2k and the bass player from Finch (I forgot his name). Do you know the other members names?

Scott Weber
11/21/05, 11:29 PM
rich balling, the drummer from rx bandits is in it as well.

deecee85
11/22/05, 01:25 PM
Bono makes a guest appearance on "ash"

brodudeman123
11/23/05, 09:58 PM
I agree that the interludes are pretty much not cool. Maybe they were thrown in there for the stoners, atleast I think that could be.

TyRocs
12/05/05, 08:40 AM
I'm pretty sure one of the other singers in the band is Craig Owens from Chiodos.

Scott Weber
12/05/05, 09:32 AM
I'm pretty sure one of the other singers in the band is Craig Owens from Chiodos.
That's on the next album they're working on, he wasn't on this one.

FASSWcore
12/05/05, 08:29 PM
amazing cd...can't wait for more

BlackSheepBoy
12/06/05, 01:30 AM
The four "ACTS" on this EP are actually excellent pieces of music but I'd like to start a petition, get about 10,000 signatures on it, and show it to all the bands who are trying to create something "original," "epic," or "profound........"

Do you know what the header of this petition would read?

THIS MANY PEOPLE CAN'T STOMACH ANYMORE "ARTISTIC" AMBIENT INTERLUDES


Anyway, here's to hoping I don't have to press the "skip forward" button every other track on the new album.

rossifrookin23
12/06/05, 08:53 PM
So true... sorta...

granted, most ambient interludes suck ass. *cough*francisthemute*cough*
but many ambient interludes are both affective and necessary to the flow in between tracks

for example, de loused. That CD has freaking awesome interludes, and the tracks on the album wouldent be nearly as good without them. Look at Son Et Lumiere and Tira me a las Aranas, they both start their respective songs up perfectly. I mean if you want a straight adreneline shot youll just listen to drunkship, but nothing beats that tense build up, with a tasteful length and whatnot, and that drum roll right before the hot latin salsa jon theodore explosion.

not to mention this whole genre of music made up of freaking great ambient interludes called post-rock


but yeah the interludes on this cd are shit.

<3godspeed you black emperor

BlackSheepBoy
12/06/05, 10:59 PM
I really see where you're coming from....

You are right about the interludes on both Mars Volta albums: De-Loused interludes = effective and Frances the Mute interludes = detrimental to the album.

And while there are certainly plenty more examples of garbage-interludes than tactful ones there are few bands that use ambience to their advantage, such as:

Godspeed You! Black Emperor and Explosions in the Sky

BlackSheepBoy
12/06/05, 11:32 PM
Ha, just as i finished posting my reply i realized you had listed Godspeed You! as well. Very engaging band.

danknugga
12/13/05, 07:05 PM
yea the there is definetely way too much interlude action but i like a couple of them...dare i say the chiodos guy will only sound good if he screams. he sounds like a bitch on their album

Scott Weber
12/20/05, 11:35 PM
rich balling did not play drums for rxb

he played trombone on Progress

RxB's drummer is Chris

come on Scott :) haha
wtf? I never said that Rich played drums for Rx Bandits in that entire review, I know that...that's why I said it featured members of Rx Bandits as WELL as Rich Balling. How would you even come to that conclusion?

analog_boy
12/21/05, 04:17 AM
wtf? I never said that Rich played drums for Rx Bandits in that entire review, I know that...that's why I said it featured members of Rx Bandits as WELL as Rich Balling. How would you even come to that conclusion?

rich balling, the drummer from rx bandits is in it as well.

And his name is actualling Rich Bailing. Just saying.

Scott Weber
12/21/05, 10:00 AM
And his name is actualling Rich Bailing. Just saying.
No it's not. Get off my back guys, you're not even right. A simple google search would prove that you're wrong and I'm right - it's definitely Balling.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&c2coff=1&q=rich+balling

p.s. didn't even look at the comments to the review....especially now that it's on page 2. obviously a typo because if you read the review you see i know otherwise.

analog_boy
12/21/05, 01:32 PM
No it's not. Get off my back guys, you're not even right. A simple google search would prove that you're wrong and I'm right - it's definitely Balling.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&c2coff=1&q=rich+balling

p.s. didn't even look at the comments to the review....especially now that it's on page 2. obviously a typo because if you read the review you see i know otherwise.

Ok cool, sorry. I've just check my RX Bandits booklet and it turns out you are right. How could this happen to me? Haha. Apologies.

Scott Weber
12/21/05, 03:52 PM
Ok cool, sorry. I've just check my RX Bandits booklet and it turns out you are right. How could this happen to me? Haha. Apologies.
I know man, you're the Analog Boy!!!

alexwohl29_90
12/21/05, 10:04 PM
Anything we throw at Scott he comes back at us 10 times harder..face it...he pretty much owns...

alexwohl29_90
12/21/05, 10:04 PM
hopefully the new TSOAF album will sound at least half as good as this album with fewer interludes.

Scott Weber
12/21/05, 10:39 PM
hopefully the new TSOAF album will sound at least half as good as this album with fewer interludes.
yeah seriously. i hope we get a real full-length.

The Game
01/30/06, 10:22 AM
this album is intresting, sometimes misses sometimes hits

wish more bands would put more thaught into songs

a good move forward

Shatter_Glass
02/11/06, 10:50 PM
TSOAF = LoVe in it's purist form (MINUS THE DAMN INTERLUDES!!!!) lol

lildrumboy
05/26/06, 03:27 AM
For those of you who care, or do not know. and maybe its been posted elsewhere, but here is the line up i know of.

The Nightingale - Rich Balling (Vocals) Rx Bandits

The Walrus - Matt Embree (Lead Guitar) Rx Bandits

The Lynx - Chris Tsagakis (Drums) Rx Bandits

The Tiger - r2k (Guitar) Finch

The Tortoise - Derek Doherty (Bass) Finch

The Skunk - Anthony Green (Vocals) CS

The Bear - Chris Fudurich (Mixing and Programming) Producer (Rx, Nada, Allister)

The Raven - Marc Mcknight (Artwork) Atreyu

The Swan - Vanessa Chibba (Public Relations)

The Dog - Chris Haynie (Author of Story behind the Music) *ahem* Angels and Airwaves

The Ferret - Kyle Homme (Engineer)

The Octopus - Charlie Adams (Patrone)

The Armadillo - Rich Zahniser (Engineer, Vocals) Hippos

There Is also a 14th "member" The Llamma, a girl who sang on the record. but thats a secret.

Now my thoughts on the band: Its cute to have the whole team working with and behind you to considerably be part of the band, but act as members, and even give them names which are promoted as members... This just doesnt make sense to me, and seems somewhat lame. It's a concept, and a spin off of a "new" idea. But much of what makes this band up has already been done concept wise and sound wise, its really nothing new. I'll give respect to the record, they did a decent job, but i dont think its anything to write home about, i didnt fall out of my chair when i gave it a first listen.

Interesting concept, it would have been more interesting if members had remained anonymous. But who cant spot anthony's voice from a mile away.

cheers.

concernedparent
06/17/06, 02:28 PM
this album is amazing. Lover sucks in comparison...

saraxxnightmare
08/06/07, 01:40 PM
I registered just to tell you craigery from chiodos did sing in the song chasing suns. Trust me. I know that voice. I know it so well you have no idea. He sung it with anthony green. Anthony Green is another voice ive been listening to for years. My boyfriend doesnt even like those singers and he can tell them apart in chasing suns.

ItsCountEjacula
10/08/07, 09:20 AM
I agree that the interludes are pretty much not cool. Maybe they were thrown in there for the stoners, atleast I think that could be.
I agree too. Amazing songs I wish there was more. I love "Chasing Suns" one of my favorite songs all time

Clark
05/01/08, 09:15 PM
I registered just to tell you craigery from chiodos did sing in the song chasing suns. Trust me. I know that voice. I know it so well you have no idea. He sung it with anthony green. Anthony Green is another voice ive been listening to for years. My boyfriend doesnt even like those singers and he can tell them apart in chasing suns.
Nope.

bifforama1
05/29/08, 03:32 PM
"Melodic melodies" huh? I find that quite humorous.

buzzhannahbuzz
02/17/09, 08:03 PM
This is a well written review on one of my favorite albums. :]
I do have to disagree with you on the interludes, though. Music doesn't have to have someone singing for it to be good. And really, if you listen closely during the interludes, you'll find that they're not just thrown together. They are musical genius, in my opinion.