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Emopunkthrice
11/23/05, 08:34 AM
NEW YORK -- One season later, Carlos Delgado is headed to the New York Mets.

The Mets reached a preliminary agreement Wednesday to acquire Delgado and $7 million from the Florida Marlins for first baseman Mike Jacobs and pitcher Yusmeiro Petit, a baseball official familiar with the talks said, speaking on condition of anonymity because the deal was not final.

It is the second tentative deal struck this week by the payroll-slashing Marlins, who also have a pending agreement to send 2003 World Series MVP Josh Beckett to the Boston Red Sox for three prospects.

Frustrated they have been unable to put together financing for a new ballpark, the Marlins said Tuesday they have received permission from the commissioner's office to explore moving the franchise for the 2008 season.

New York would receive $7 million from the Marlins as part of the trade to offset the $48 million Delgado is owed over the next three seasons. The first baseman turned down the Mets' offer last January to accept a $52 million, four-year contract from the Marlins, who did not offer the no-trade clause contained in the Mets' deal.

The sides have not yet agreed on how to spread the money, the official said, with the Mets proposing Florida pays $1 million next year, $2 million in 2007 and $4 million in 2008. The Marlins proposed paying $2.5 million in 2007 and $4.5 million in 2008.

The commissioner's office, which must approve the trade because more than $1 million is changing hands, will make the final decision, the official said. Players also must take physicals.

The tentative deal was first reported by Newsday on its Web site after the Daily News reported Wednesday that a trade could be imminent.

In addition to Delgado's salary, the Mets must fulfill a provision in his contract that provides for state tax equalization. The official estimated that would come to between $300,000 and $450,000 next year.

Because he is a veteran player traded during a multiyear contract, Delgado would have the right to file a trade demand during the 15 days following next year's World Series.

A two-time All-Star, he hit .301 with 33 homers and 115 RBIs in his lone seasons with the Marlins, reaching 30 homers for the ninth consecutive year. The 33-year-old Delgado, who spent his first 12 major league seasons with Toronto, has a .284 career average with 369 homers and 1,173 RBIs.

He also attracted attention for protesting the U.S.-Iraq war by refusing to stand when "God Bless America" was played at major league ballparks.

Delgado received just $4 million last season and is owed $13.5 million in 2006, $14.5 million in 2007 and $16 million in 2008. His contract contains a club option for 2009 at $12 million with a $4 million buyout, but it could become guaranteed at $16 million depending on how he finishes in MVP voting and whether he wins postseason MVP awards.

The 25-year-old Jacobs, batted .310 with 11 homers and 23 RBIs in 100 at-bats with the Mets, who brought him up from the minors in mid-August. Petit, a right-hander who turned 21 Tuesday, went 9-3 with a 2.91 ERA in 21 starts at Double-A Binghamton, then went 0-3 with a 9.20 ERA in three starts at Triple-A Norfolk. During spring training, Delgado hit a three-run double off Petit.

While striking the Delgado deal, New York also was wooing closer Billy Wagner, who completed a two-day visit Tuesday. The Mets offered the free agent a three-year contract worth just more than $30 million, a deal containing an option for 2009 that could increase the package to $40 million.

"The visit went very well and went a long way to answering whether the Wagners could be comfortable living in the New York area," agent Bean Stringfellow wrote Wednesday in an e-mail to The Associated Press.

Philadelphia is trying to re-sign the four-time All-Star.

justinevans
11/23/05, 08:50 AM
vomit :shake:

weezer182
11/23/05, 12:24 PM
the mets still wont be great

asianxcore
11/23/05, 12:44 PM
The mets always suck, they could have the NL All Star team and they will suck. this is the Giants year.

Spicoli hey bud
11/23/05, 01:05 PM
The one thing Max Kellerman ever said that was correct....
"If you're a mets fan you always just have to wonder, why does god hate you?"

weezer182
11/23/05, 01:10 PM
The mets always suck, they could have the NL All Star team and they will suck. this is the Giants year. im with you on the giants

NetNerdsRevenge
11/23/05, 01:10 PM
Nice move for the Mets. This kind of throws a hitch in Manny trade talks, though. Petit would be a guy the Sox would want, and now he is on his way to Florida.

Jacobs is going to be a nice player, though. I really have to think the Marlins win on this side of the Trade. Jacobs is going to be a stellar first baseman, for much less than Delgado. But, of course Minaya doesnt value prospects as much as other people.

Nigel
11/23/05, 01:12 PM
Mets=Career killer
Delgado had a nice run, I guess it's time to say goodbye

xearlynovemberx
11/23/05, 04:17 PM
Yesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss sssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss sssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

Broken Parachute
11/24/05, 12:25 AM
The Mets have a problem..

They like being a sort of "Nursing Home." They only trade for players WAY past their prime. Ugh. We're gonna have yet another bad season.

xearlynovemberx
11/24/05, 12:36 AM
The Mets have a problem..

They like being a sort of "Nursing Home." They only trade for players WAY past their prime. Ugh. We're gonna have yet another bad season.

he hit 33 fucking hrs had 115 rbis and his avg was 301 those are solid fucking #s every1 should stop fucking complaning 'oh delgado this oh delgado that' hes gunna do fine stop the whining

xearlynovemberx
11/24/05, 12:38 AM
The mets always suck, they could have the NL All Star team and they will suck. this is the Giants year.

keep fucking dreaming

underthetalking
11/24/05, 12:57 AM
see Mike Cameron

xearlynovemberx
11/24/05, 12:58 AM
see Mike Cameron

what about cammy?

ThriftWhore
11/24/05, 01:18 AM
this is a huge move for the mets. i wish they'd go out and try to get another starter, but with wagner possibly close to signing i think thats a bigger need.

leafsacc
11/24/05, 07:15 AM
this is a huge move for the mets. i wish they'd go out and try to get another starter, but with wagner possibly close to signing i think thats a bigger need.

I agree, this won't put them over the top, getting Wagner and a quality catcher who can handle the pitching staff will.

Broken Parachute
11/25/05, 02:13 AM
he hit 33 fucking hrs had 115 rbis and his avg was 301 those are solid fucking #s every1 should stop fucking complaning 'oh delgado this oh delgado that' hes gunna do fine stop the whining

For a veteran like Delgado this is a good move, bad for the Mets. The Mets got rid of two possible good players for the future, to get this guy who is getting older.

Did you even know there is a rule that says if a player is traded in the first year of his contract (in this case, with the Marlins) he is allowed to DEMAND a trade and the Mets MUST trade him or else he becomes a free agent. So if he hates New York next season, as long as he says so..he's gone and that trade will be for nothing.

Broken Parachute
11/25/05, 02:16 AM
I agree, this won't put them over the top, getting Wagner and a quality catcher who can handle the pitching staff will.

They're trying to land Ramon Hernandez. If they do, this will be the biggest offseason I have ever seen as far as production goes. They're actually playing it smart..getting one veteran, Delgado, and all younger guys like Nady and I'll consider Wagner a young guy too because he's only in his early 30's. If they can land another young. but experienced player like Hernandez or even Molina..they'll be in the hunt for the playoffs. And really, they only have up one really big player in Cameron (who wasn't even producing with his bat). Jacobs, mehh..I would have held on to him, but grabbing a veteran like Delgado is good.

wakeupgomer
11/25/05, 09:20 AM
If the Mets land Hernandez or another top-tier catcher, they'll be absolutely loaded0--with or without Wagner. The NL East is going to get VERY interesting.

Do you think they'd considering trading Beltran for Manny? Just wondering.

xearlynovemberx
11/25/05, 11:25 AM
If the Mets land Hernandez or another top-tier catcher, they'll be absolutely loaded0--with or without Wagner. The NL East is going to get VERY interesting.

Do you think they'd considering trading Beltran for Manny? Just wondering.

haha no way in hell i would do that

underthetalking
11/25/05, 11:35 AM
I'm just wondering why the Marlins are basically setting up shop and having a fire sale.

xearlynovemberx
11/25/05, 11:42 AM
they need money to finance a new stadium i think

LeftWideOpen
11/25/05, 11:48 AM
I'm just wondering why the Marlins are basically setting up shop and having a fire sale.

their farm system is LOADED after these 2 deals ..they're going to be incredible right around the time they leave FL for Vegas, and thats probably not a coincidence.

underthetalking
11/25/05, 11:56 AM
their farm system is LOADED after these 2 deals ..they're going to be incredible right around the time they leave FL for Vegas, and thats probably not a coincidence.


They're having a new stadium built in Miami... so I highly doubt they're going to Vegas.

LeftWideOpen
11/25/05, 12:01 PM
They're having a new stadium built in Miami... so I highly doubt they're going to Vegas.

no ..they can't get the money for the stadium. just the other day they got permission from the commisioner to look into relocating... and Vegas is at the top of the list.

leafsacc
11/25/05, 02:37 PM
no ..they can't get the money for the stadium. just the other day they got permission from the commisioner to look into relocating... and Vegas is at the top of the list.

I can't see a team surviving in Vegas, it would be like the Hornets in New Orleans, there's two many options for people as far as their entertainment dollars, and visitors don't go to Vegas to watch a ball game.

xearlynovemberx
11/25/05, 04:39 PM
I can't see a team surviving in Vegas, it would be like the Hornets in New Orleans, there's two many options for people as far as their entertainment dollars, and visitors don't go to Vegas to watch a ball game.

maybe

NetNerdsRevenge
11/25/05, 06:07 PM
Did you even know there is a rule that says if a player is traded in the first year of his contract (in this case, with the Marlins) he is allowed to DEMAND a trade and the Mets MUST trade him or else he becomes a free agent. So if he hates New York next season, as long as he says so..he's gone and that trade will be for nothing.
If the he demands a trade and the Mets comply, he'll have to wait longer to become a FA. He could go some where nice and be fine with it, or he could be stuck a shit hole, and be stuck for longer than he would be in NY.

underthetalking
11/25/05, 09:53 PM
I can't see a team surviving in Vegas, it would be like the Hornets in New Orleans, there's two many options for people as far as their entertainment dollars, and visitors don't go to Vegas to watch a ball game.

You have a good point. Wasn't Vegas in the drawing to get the Expos too? I remember their name being thrown around.