March Mayhem Round 1: The Starting Line vs. Death Cab for Cutie

[Anton Djamoos]

Who is your favorite band out of these two? Be sure to read the replies for other users' cases for each band.

[theguy77]

oh my FUCKING god if death cab loses im seriously going to have to take a break from this site.

[DrewG]

I still rock "Say It Like You Mean It" (some nostalgic tunes on that one) but Death Cab is a lot more musically diverse and interesting.

[duhpunk]

never cared for DCFC

[hailthewarrior]

transatlanticism (the song) > tsl > the rest of dcfc. tsl got it.

[theguy77]

cody, garrett, do you guys really want me to leave? :-(

by the way it's:

5 and a half of DCFC's albums >>> tsl > half of we have the facts.

[chipdip18]

Still round one?

[Renee]

cody, garrett, do you guys really want me to leave? :-(

by the way it's:

5 and a half of DCFC's albums > tsl > half of we have the facts.
yes.

[chipdip18]

Who is your favorite band out of these two? Be sure to read the replies for other users' cases for each band.

Is there an official bracket somewhere? Or list of all the bands up against each other?

[Anton Djamoos]

Is there an official bracket somewhere? Or list of all the bands up against each other?
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Final bracket is not set in stone...going to remove Sugarcult.

[chipdip18]

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Final bracket is not set in stone...going to remove Sugarcult.

Alright thanks! Oh man this will be a lot of fun. Will there be a news post when it is official?

[3eb23]

Death Cab > TSL

[theguy77]

come ON death cab please win this for me :-(

[Chromefox]

Diligently cast for Death Cab.

[jimjam32]

hipster indie-rock ftl. go tsl!

[Anton Djamoos]

After the final first round breacket will all 50 remaining bands be in the next poll?
Yessir.

[Bobby Tucker]

I like Narrow Stairs and Transatlantiicism but no band has meant as much to me as TSL. They have been in my cd player nonstop for the past five years and have served as the biggest gateway for getting me into so many other types of music. But, objectively, I'm probably not able to fairly judge this.

[irthesteve]

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Final bracket is not set in stone...going to remove Sugarcult.
so sad, i woulda voted for Sugarcult. Hometown Heroes ftw

[TalkShowsOnMute]

Death Cab.

[boxingwithstars]

Death Cab, hands down.

[bouttogetfancy]

death cab for cutie.

[VIVALAMATT]

Death Cab by a long shot.

[theguy77]

hipster indie-rock ftl. go tsl!

WHAT?!

:lol: :uhno:

hahahahahaha death cab. hipster. laughing my fucking ass off (yes i did spell that out)>

[MCSmate]

the starting line, please.
great pop-punk/pop-rock band with a great following.
my favorite band.

[Broclee]

hipster indie-rock ftl. go tsl!
Death Cab are far from "hipster" indie-rock.

[youngmountain]

Gotta be death cab surely

[Chris Fallon]

Transatlanticism automatically gives Death Cab the win in my court.

Do love The Starting Line though -- last two albums were fantastic.

[notoaststereo]

death cab

[DrewG]

In reference to the bracket: is there no Weezer?

[TheOtherAndrew]

Death Cab

[Drew Beringer]

DCFC easily

[anamericangod]

Death Cab

[radxbandit]

i like both, but the starting line are much more prevalent and meaningful in my life. i've been listening to them since i was 14. plus, i enjoy singing starting line songs much more than dcfc songs.

[Daniel Thompson]

death cab for cutie

[radxbandit]

my, there are some overzealous dcfc fans here.

[RAMROD85]

def. going to give my love to a band I go back with that stood out from everything else I've listened to Death Cab is unique.

[Broclee]

In reference to the bracket: is there no Weezer?

Weezer was up against mewithoutYou in the first round and destroyed them.

[ZachMadeMeOdd]

death cab for sure. the starting line weren't ever anything special imo. they would've had a good match up with, lets say yellowcard.

[anthonydarko]

Death Cab for me. The Starting Line is good but in terms of writing songs, Ben kicks Kenny's ass.

[katieissweet]

I hate this one. I picked The Starting Line.

[x1onexwo1fx]

i loooove tsl, but i don't think they're going to win. i should really start listening to death cab, though. don't be hating, i didn't say they're horrible or boring or anything, i just haven't listened to them yet.

[anomaly519]

Death Cab for sure, although The Starting Line are incredible.

[robat19]

tsl

[icarolina]

never cared for death cab. though i recognize they are quality.

[mickmadethelist]

this one should be close, and rightfully so. i voted DCFC, but love both

[bobby runs]

oh my FUCKING god if death cab loses im seriously going to have to take a break from this site.
And that's how I feel if TSL were to lose. They are my absolute favorite band.

Time to start making fake accounts.

[theguy77]

see i feel good about how this thread is turning out, but thats just a false sense of security becuase even if death cab wins this they will just lose to another pop-punk band later.

[Kevtron650]

death cab. death cab, death cab.

[LCincala]

this is hard. because death cab is so effin good, and the starting line carries so much nostalgia for me.

yikes.

[Bobby Tucker]

see i feel good about how this thread is turning out, but thats just a false sense of security becuase even if death cab wins this they will just lose to another boring unoriginal pop-punk band later.

I mean, if you're talking about SILYMI, I can slightly agree, because every album coming out around that time sounded like that, from Copeland's Behind Medicine Tree to Brand New's Your Favorite Weapon. But TSL's last two albums went far beyond the generic pop punk and moved into the same vein as Jimmy Eat World's Chase This Light. I feel like every band putting out "generic pop punk" early in this decade has changed their sound to become something much better than that; just look at Copeland, The Format, Brand New, and TSL. They've all evolved into much more important, and different, bands.

[theguy77]

I mean, if you're talking about SILYMI, I can slightly agree, because every album coming out around that time sounded like that, from Copeland's Behind Medicine Tree to Brand New's Your Favorite Weapon. But TSL's last two albums went far beyond the generic pop punk and moved into the same vein as Jimmy Eat World's Chase This Light. I feel like every band putting out "generic pop punk" early in this decade has changed their sound to become something much better than that; just look at Copeland, The Format, Brand New, and TSL. They've all evolved into much more important, and different, bands.

even within the confines of pop-rock TSL's only made a slight to moderate change in their sound. they've improved a bit i guess, but they still cant even touch the things death cab have done with indie-pop.

[DrewG]

Weezer was up against mewithoutYou in the first round and destroyed them.

Ah, my fault. Thanks.

[anthonydarko]

Death Cab For Cutie will be remembered for what they've done for indie music. I don't see TSL being remembered for what they've done for pop punk.

[Adrian Villagomez]

Death Cab for Cutie

[theguy77]

Death Cab For Cutie will be remembered for what they've done for indie music. I don't see TSL being remembered for what they've done for pop punk.

essentially my point, only emphasized more because indie-pop >>> pop-punk in general. although, unlike others, i do still see plenty of redeeming qualities and unique components to pop-punk even though it is overall a very bland, predictable, and amateur genre.

[anthonydarko]

essentially my point, only emphasized more because indie-pop >>> pop-punk in general. although, unlike others, i do still see plenty of redeeming qualities and unique components to pop-punk even though it is overall a very bland, predictable, and amateur genre.
Agreed.

[Bryant]

oh my FUCKING god if death cab loses im seriously going to have to take a break from this site.
Opposite of what you said!

[onthefringe]

the starting line.

[drudo182]

The Starting Line....

How are they losing? Based On A True Story is such a great album. All three of them are good but their second disc is my favorite.

[ohheroine]

t.s.l. no other way to do it

[theguy77]

The Starting Line....

How are they losing? Based On A True Story is such a great album. All three of them are good but their second disc is my favorite.

transatlanticism.
PLANS
the photo album
something about airplanes
narrow stairs

five major reasons right there.

[TheOtherAndrew]

Yeah, all five reasons are quite good.

[anthonydarko]

I would of voted for TSL if they didn't sound like every other pop punk band out there.

[anthonydarko]

Excellent five reasons for Death Cab.

[RAMROD85]

Death Cab For Cutie will be remembered for what they've done for indie music. I don't see TSL being remembered for what they've done for pop punk.
absofuckinglutely.

[Bobby Tucker]

I would of voted for TSL if they didn't sound like every other pop punk band out there.

Wow, seriously? I've been waiting five years to find bands that sound like TSL. Any recs in particular? :rolleyes:

[theguy77]

put it this way, my album's been compared to them and it has zero influence from them, not a single album of theirs impacted me or my writing process. thats how predictable the genre tends to be and how much they sit right in the middle of it.

[Bobby Tucker]

I can understand Death Cab winning, and I am slightly surprised that it's even this close for TSL given the responses in this thread and the discography that DCFC possesses. But the argument that "TSL sounds like every other pop punk band" is really trite and unfounded.

[anthonydarko]

Wow, seriously? I've been waiting five years to find bands that sound like TSL. Any recs in particular? :rolleyes:
So instead of finding great music, you spent time trying to find more generic pop punk that sounds like another generic pop punk band?

[RAMROD85]

haha this thread is starting to resemble the ATL vs SYG thread with the whole "generic pop punk band" discussion kicking in... I'm not getting involved because I'm on the other side this time ha.

[Bobby Tucker]

put it this way, my album's been compared to them and it has zero influence from them, not a single album of theirs impacted me or my writing process. thats how predictable the genre tends to be and how much they sit right in the middle of it.

Oh, no doubts. I'm not arguing about the genre in general. That's sort of the definition of "genre" is that it neatly classifies all of the bands within it by sound. The fact that Death Cab is in the "Indie-Pop" genre is a testament to how different their sound is while still holding true to the conventions of pop. Even bands like The Dangerous Summer are constantly compared to TSL, and I can see there people say they are "in the middle of the genre." But, most of the "same pop-punk bands" that everyone says they sound like seem to follow them, not precede them. Maybe that's just what it seems like from someone who's followed them and pursued other bands with a similar sound.

[Imperfektion]

Tsl

[theguy77]

Oh, no doubts. I'm not arguing about the genre in general. That's sort of the definition of "genre" is that it neatly classifies all of the bands within it by sound. The fact that Death Cab is in the "Indie-Pop" genre is a testament to how different their sound is while still holding true to the conventions of pop. Even bands like The Dangerous Summer are constantly compared to TSL, and I can see there people say they are "in the middle of the genre." But, most of the "same pop-punk bands" that everyone says they sound like seem to follow them, not precede them. Maybe that's just what it seems like from someone who's followed them and pursued other bands with a similar sound.

oh thats what you meant. yeah i could see that TSL did come pretty early, but only by a few months or so. idk, what im saying is at this point even if TSL is different from the rest of the genre, are they anywhere near as unique and distinct as death cab is? and its not like thats the only thing that constitutes "better music" but im just saying even if you wanted to make that argument for TSL, it just makes them look weaker when comparing them to DCFC in that category.

[lonelysuperstar]

Death Cab should be winning this by much more than they are. They are ten times the band that TSL are.

[fadedmemories]

I will never outgrow Say It Like You Mean It.

[Bobby Tucker]

So instead of finding great music, you spent time trying to find more generic pop punk that sounds like another generic pop punk band?

Note the eye rolls.

I have no doubts that Death Cab will be remembered for what they've done, and yes, maybe TSL will fade out with time, but I do and have enjoyed their sound, as have the "generic pop punk bands" that have followed them. Again, it does seem that many of these "generic" bands you reference have come after TSL.

[lonelysuperstar]

But, most of the "same pop-punk bands" that everyone says they sound like seem to follow them, not precede them.
I can't agree with this statement. I think they sound like all the bands that preceded them as well. It's not like they started pop punk. The genre hasn't really evolved much since Blink 182 made it huge.

[anthonydarko]

Death Cab should be winning this by much more than they are. They are ten times the band that TSL are.
Were, that band hit the dirt a year or so ago.

[fadedmemories]

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If The Get Up Kids lose to MCR I will be so disappointed with AP.

[anthonydarko]

Note the eye rolls.

I have no doubts that Death Cab will be remembered for what they've done, and yes, maybe TSL will fade out with time, but I do and have enjoyed their sound, as have the "generic pop punk bands" that have followed them. Again, it does seem that many of these "generic" bands you reference have come after TSL.
Actually around the same time they were starting to get popular, referring to the pop punk craze of the late 90's to early 00's. They were in a vast sea of pop punk bands that all sounded like each other during that time and they didn't sound any different from their peers.

[lonelysuperstar]

Were, that band hit the dirt a year or so ago.
Shows how much I care.

[anthonydarko]

Shows how much I care.
:-d

[Bobby Tucker]

oh thats what you meant. yeah i could see that TSL did come pretty early, but only by a few months or so. idk, what im saying is at this point even if TSL is different from the rest of the genre, are they anywhere near as unique and distinct as death cab is? and its not like thats the only thing that constitutes "better music" but im just saying even if you wanted to make that argument for TSL, it just makes them look weaker when comparing them to DCFC in that category.

Yeah, definitely, and DCFC will easily have more clout in music history than TSL. Their discography is more diverse and has had a bigger impact. Objectively, DC will always be considered "better music" or "more evolved" music, and I'll even surrender that to anyone in this thread who is on the fence. But in a scene where so many people started listening to The Early November or SoCo I feel like TSL certainly has their place among that group, even if that means they won't be remembered ten years from now...

[Bryant]

I can't agree with this statement. I think they sound like all the bands that preceded them as well. It's not like they started pop punk. The genre hasn't really evolved much since Blink 182 made it huge.Lol, TSL sounds like Blink?

[anthonydarko]

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Final bracket is not set in stone...going to remove Sugarcult.
Story Of The Year against Midtown? That's not even fair :-(

[Bobby Tucker]

Lol, TSL sounds like Blink?

I'd go so far as to say that SILYMI is inspired by Blink, but they've even said that they pursued a Jimmy Eat World sound with their last two records.

[lonelysuperstar]

Lol, TSL sounds like Blink?

You don't think so? TSL is a bit more emo-pop sounding, but that's just cause they started on the back of the emo explosion in the late 90s.

[Clark]

Yikes, it should not be this close. Quit voting for TSL, dorks. They're enjoyable, but nowhere close to Death Cab.

[Spenny]

Had to go with Death Cab.
Transatlanticism is beyond compare.

[Bryant]

I'd go so far as to say that SILYMI is inspired by Blink, but they've even said that they pursued a Jimmy Eat World sound with their last two records.Sure, they could've been inspired by them and I don't doubt it but that does not mean they sound the same. I don't think they were even aiming for that type of Pop-punk, but I'm sure the argument that, "All Pop-Punk is the same" will be a defense.

[Bobby Tucker]

Yikes, it should not be this close. Quit voting for TSL, dorks. They're enjoyable, but nowhere close to Death Cab.

Even I, as a TSL fan, am shocked to see it this close. But it's already hit a 25 vote difference a few times, so I'd say it's probably over.

[Bobby Tucker]

Sure, they could've been inspired by them and I don't doubt it but that does not mean they sound the same. I don't think they were even aiming for that type of Pop-punk, but I'm sure the argument that, "All Pop-Punk is the same" will be a defense.

Oh yeah, it's already been used. But I am right there with you man... ;-)

[Bryant]

You don't think so? TSL is a bit more emo-pop sounding, but that's just cause they started on the back of the emo explosion in the late 90s.To be honest, I still don't know what emo is. But no, I don't think they sound the same. I couldn't get into Blink as much as the next guy because I found more passion in TSL. That alone makes them worlds apart to me.

[fadedmemories]

TSL's only 20 posts behind as of now, come on TSL!

[Bryant]

Oh yeah, it's already been used. But I am right there with you man... ;-)Thanks man, but yea, I am not even here to defend against Death Cab, I came to defend Pop-Punk, haha.

[Bobby Tucker]

TSL's only 20 posts behind as of now, come on TSL!

They've been 19/20 out the whole time. I'm rooting for them, but I don't really see it happening...

[fadedmemories]

They've been 19/20 out the whole time. I'm rooting for them, but I don't really see it happening...
Unfortunately, I feel the same way, I'm just in denial haha

[Bobby Tucker]

Thanks man, but yea, I am not even here to defend against Death Cab, I came to defend Pop-Punk, haha.

Yeah, I mean I like Death Cab, but I love TSL and wish they weren't lumped in with some of the really annoying bands that followed them. Not saying they are objectively better, but nothing will ever replace that first time I popped in BOATS, or the first time I played Something Left to Give on full blast. Great, great moments for me...

[Bobby Tucker]

Unfortunately, I feel the same way, I'm just in denial haha

Sometimes its the best way to go. :-) It'll keep you happier, no doubts...

[speakhandsforme]

I'm shocked that The Starting Line isn't winning. Why they aren't held in as high regards as New Found, Saves the Day, and Blink is beyond me.

[amysaurus]

As much as I love me some Death Cab, TSL was and still is one of my favorite bands

[fadedmemories]

Sometimes its the best way to go. :-) It'll keep you happier, no doubts...
Yes indeed.
I'm shocked that The Starting Line isn't winning. Why they aren't held in as high regards as New Found, Saves the Day, and Blink is beyond me.
Agreed
In my opinion: STD>NFG>TSL>Blink

[Bobby Tucker]

I'm shocked that The Starting Line isn't winning. Why they aren't held in as high regards as New Found, Saves the Day, and Blink is beyond me.

Direction at the least should be held up as high as Chase This Light by JEW (not all of JEW's discography). Both came out around the same time, and both were the biggest steps forward in the genre (pop-rock, pop-punk) yet. You'll never win the Blink argument, though I'm not a huge Blink fan by any means. Saves The Day is an enigma to me; they release an ok record (TBC), a good one (SWYA), and three hugely disappointing ones (In Reverie, Sound The Alarm, and Under The Boards). TSL has never disappointed to that big of an extent, and each of their records surpasses anything put out by STD.

[Bryant]

I'm shocked that The Starting Line isn't winning. Why they aren't held in as high regards as New Found, Saves the Day, and Blink is beyond me.Amen.

[lonelysuperstar]

Yes indeed.

Agreed
In my opinion: STD>NFG>TSL>Blink

Nobody is going to agree with my opinion, but it is:
Blink>TSL>STD>NFG

I've just never been able to get into New Found Glory.

[Bryant]

TSL>NFG>Blink and I have not given Saves The Day a chance yet.

[speakhandsforme]

I just think that Say It Like You Mean It Like You Mean It is as catchy, influential, and musically-potent as albums get in the pop-punk genre. I personally prefer New Found Glory out of the four mentioned bands but I believe TSL, to be as musically gifted as any.

[speakhandsforme]

And since everyone's doing it...

NFG > TSL > STD > Blink

[speakhandsforme]

Direction at the least should be held up as high as Chase This Light by JEW (not all of JEW's discography). Both came out around the same time, and both were the biggest steps forward in the genre (pop-rock, pop-punk) yet. You'll never win the Blink argument, though I'm not a huge Blink fan by any means. Saves The Day is an enigma to me; they release an ok record (TBC), a good one (SWYA), and three hugely disappointing ones (In Reverie, Sound The Alarm, and Under The Boards). TSL has never disappointed to that big of an extent, and each of their records surpasses anything put out by STD.

I think Sound the Alarm is their best by far, by the way.

[fadedmemories]

TSL>NFG>Blink and I have not given Saves The Day a chance yet.
You totally should :-)
I just think that Say It Like You Mean It Like You Mean It is as catchy, influential, and musically-potent as albums get in the pop-punk genre. I personally prefer New Found Glory out of the four mentioned bands but I believe TSL, to be as musically gifted as any.
Word
I think Sound the Alarm is their best by far, by the way.
Stay What You Are for me.

[RAMROD85]

...ugh... nfg is epic... came before TSL, and has lasted after TSL... and will be remembered for much, much longer.

nothing gold can stay and self titled are just..............................

I guess it's just not worth it in this thread.

[Bryant]

You totally should :-)

WordAll my friends and brother love them, but I don't know why I haven't.

I couldn't think of a band that TSL sounded a lot like, but then I remembered Spitalfield. Remember Right Now was an amazing album.

[anthonydarko]

I think Sound the Alarm is their best by far, by the way.
I use that CD as a coaster.

[fadedmemories]

...ugh... nfg is epic... came before TSL, and has lasted after TSL... and will be remembered for much, much longer.

nothing gold can stay and self titled are just..............................

I guess it's just not worth it in this thread.
I completely agree with the bolded parts, what I can't get is why people don't think of TSL the way they regard NFG.
All my friends and brother love them, but I don't know why I haven't.

How could that be? :-(

[Bobby Tucker]

TSL>Blink>STD>NFG. I only like a few songs off of Catalyst, otherwise NFG has never done it for me. Blink and STD are close for me, but Blink edges out because I haven't listened to all of their stuff, so there is still the potential that I'll hit that sweet spot with them, whereas I have given STD the full listen and only really like TBC and SWYA and a couple from Under the Boards. It goes without saying that I place TSL far ahead personally, but I'll agree that they are all pretty close talentwise. Simply based on what each has done with said talent, TSLFTWZOMG for me... :-)

[speakhandsforme]

...ugh... nfg is epic... came before TSL, and has lasted after TSL... and will be remembered for much, much longer.

nothing gold can stay and self titled are just..............................

I guess it's just not worth it in this thread.

I've been listening to NFG since I was 9, back in 1999. You'll probably hate me for this but, to be honest, I think Coming Home is the best thing they have ever done and likely will ever do. There is some sentimental attachment but still. In fact, I really never liked their self-titled all that much. It was their first album I heard but I never considered it to be the best.

[Bobby Tucker]

I use that CD as a coaster.

Agreed, so terrible, especially considering it was supposed to be their "comeback" after In Reverie...

[CLARIFY THIS]

Death Cab just edged to the win for me thanks to Transatlanticism

[speakhandsforme]

But to be clear, everybody, Something Corporate's Leaving Through the Window thrashes all the others in the genre.

[Bryant]

I'd have to go with the boring old answer of TTTYG taking the cake, but I hate to open up another can of worms.

[Bobby Tucker]

But to be clear, everybody, Something Corporate's Leaving Through the Window thrashes all the others in the genre.

Meh, really just depends. Are we counting JEW? Are we counting the albums that came after it, or just the other releases around that time? Because if so, then LTTW is behind Clarity, Chase This Light, Direction, BOATS, North, and even Everything In Transit. And I love SoCo, but North is better than LTTW, so it just depends on how you're viewing the genre.

[RAMROD85]

I've been listening to NFG since I was 9, back in 1999. You'll probably hate me for this but, to be honest, I think Coming Home is the best thing they have ever done and likely will ever do. There is some sentimental attachment but still. In fact, I really never liked their self-titled all that much. It was their first album I heard but I never considered it to be the best.
haha why would I hate you for liking Coming Home? I liked Coming Home... I just love the way their earlier stuff flows... the bass lines in their self titled are great. Sincerely me and Second to Last are awesome imo.

[fadedmemories]

Agreed, so terrible, especially considering it was supposed to be their "comeback" after In Reverie...
Never got why so many people hate In Reverie
I'd have to go with the boring old answer of TTTYG taking the cake, but I hate to open up another can of worms.
This x 1000

[theguy77]

yaaaaaaaaaaay death cab's still winning :biggrin:

[Bobby Tucker]

Never got why so many people hate In Reverie

Well, it's just so unexpected, so much more folksy and, to those expecting another SWYA, a bit boring. I'd compare it to Dog Problems by The Format, which was a huge disappointment for me sound and vocal wise after I&L, but everyone seems to love Dog Problems, so I'll try to stay away from that...

[speakhandsforme]

Meh, really just depends. Are we counting JEW? Are we counting the albums that came after it, or just the other releases around that time? Because if so, then LTTW is behind Clarity, Chase This Light, Direction, BOATS, North, and even Everything In Transit. And I love SoCo, but North is better than LTTW, so it just depends on how you're viewing the genre.

I really don't consider Jimmy to be pop-punk. The beauty found in Futures (which I consider to be their best) cannot be restricted to a genre. I prefer Futures to anything made by any of the four bands that have been ranked in the recent pages of this thread.

[Bobby Tucker]

yaaaaaaaaaaay death cab's still winning :biggrin:

Yea, no worries for you theguy. No break from AP.net either, then, I would guess...?

[RAMROD85]

I'd have to go with the boring old answer of TTTYG taking the cake, but I hate to open up another can of worms.
boring answer only because it can't be argued.

SoCo's LTTW is phenominal too, though... I get lost in it, but I would not place it near TTTYG. I will put it on the table that Woke up in a Car is probably my favorite song of all time, but for personal reasons I guess...

[Olympia]

I like Death Cab, but I've been listening to Direction a lot recently.

[fadedmemories]

Well, it's just so unexpected, so much more folksy and, to those expecting another SWYA, a bit boring. I'd compare it to Dog Problems by The Format, which was a huge disappointment for me sound and vocal wise after I&L, but everyone seems to love Dog Problems, so I'll try to stay away from that...
TBQH no one should've been surprised at the direction STD took with IR.
Agreed with the comparison to Dog Problems.

[Bobby Tucker]

I really don't consider Jimmy to be pop-punk. The beauty found in Futures (which I consider to be their best) cannot be restricted to a genre. I prefer Futures to anything made by any of the four bands that have been ranked in the recent pages of this thread.

Sure, and Futures is a great record, probably their most different along with Clarity. But if JEW isn't pop-punk, then neither is later TSL, especially Direction. You can't like Chase This Light and tell me that you dislike Direction, and both are well outside what TSL did with SILYMI soundwise. So it's all just really finnicky and subjective. Which is why people should stop saying that "-Insert band name here- sounds like every other pop punk band" because pop-punk in itself is a hard genre to pin, and most of the bands that became a part of that genre branched out of it with their later works...

[Bobby Tucker]

TBQH no one should've been surprised at the direction STD took with IR.
Agreed with the comparison to Dog Problems.

I don't know the story behind any of STD's records, so if there is a personal resonance in the direction they took with IR, I obviously missed it. Maybe if I had known beforehand? Were you into Dog Problems, or that fun. exclusive they have up?

[Undue Noise]

This is getting harder, but Death Cab for me.

[Bryant]

boring answer only because it can't be argued.

SoCo's LTTW is phenominal too, though... I get lost in it, but I would not place it near TTTYG. I will put it on the table that Woke up in a Car is probably my favorite song of all time, but for personal reasons I guess...Yea, if I had to give another answer, I love the Self Against City EP and the ATL EP.

[fadedmemories]

I don't know the story behind any of STD's records, so if there is a personal resonance in the direction they took with IR, I obviously missed it. Maybe if I had known beforehand? Were you into Dog Problems, or that fun. exclusive they have up?
I'm not aware if there was any specific reason why they chose to go with the direction they took with IR
Only Dog Problems, not a big fan of that band.

[Bobby Tucker]

boring answer only because it can't be argued.

SoCo's LTTW is phenominal too, though... I get lost in it, but I would not place it near TTTYG. I will put it on the table that Woke up in a Car is probably my favorite song of all time, but for personal reasons I guess...

Personal reasons really guide our musical tastes, so no one should argue you on Woke Up in a Car. Being a spoiled kid in suburban, affluent Georgia, Something Left to Give really impacted me in a way no other song has. I can seriously say that I had a musical epiphany listening to that song, which is probably why TSL is still so important to me...

[RAMROD85]

Yea, if I had to give another answer, I love the Self Against City EP and the ATL EP.
ATL EP is def. in my top 5 just because of CSS... but I've argued that in numerous other threads so I didn't want to start THAT again ha.

[Bobby Tucker]

I'm not aware if there was any specific reason why they chose to go with the direction they took with IR
Only Dog Problems, not a big fan of that band.

Yeah, I just wish he (Nate) wouldn't fiddle so much with his voice and the upper falsetto stuff. Not really what I was expecting following I&L. I just remember hearing that Chris was really depressed or messed up or something and that's what inspired that cycle of Sound The Alarm, Under The Boards, and whatever their new record will be. That's why I thought there might be something to their eariler stuff too.

[speakhandsforme]

I've never understood the divine appeal of TTTYG. While their best, I could never really see past its poppy, upbeat demeanor. It's the type of album I can listen to while driving around with a group of people but could never listen to when I'm alone and wanting substance/fullfillment. Everything about FOB's music has always seemed too made-to-be-heard-and-nothing-else if you get my drift.

Sure, and Futures is a great record, probably their most different along with Clarity. But if JEW isn't pop-punk, then neither is later TSL, especially Direction. You can't like Chase This Light and tell me that you dislike Direction, and both are well outside what TSL did with SILYMI soundwise. So it's all just really finnicky and subjective. Which is why people should stop saying that "-Insert band name here- sounds like every other pop punk band" because pop-punk in itself is a hard genre to pin, and most of the bands that became a part of that genre branched out of it with their later works...

I don't consider "later TSL" to be pop-punk either. Direction, Chase This Light, Clarity, and Futures are outside the confines of the genre. Bleed American is the only JEW record I could see as being "pop-punk." I also agree that pop-punk" and "pop-rock" are way to similar to be always deciphered. Albums like NFG's S/T is undoubtedly pop-punk but other records like SILYMI are questionable. Actually, I do like Chase This Light much more than Direction-- "Island" is an incredible song but not much else grabs my attention.

[Bryant]

ATL EP is def. in my top 5 just because of CSS... but I've argued that in numerous other threads so I didn't want to start THAT again ha.Running From Lions is my favorite song of theirs. It would definitely find itself in a "top" list for me.

[fadedmemories]

ATL EP is def. in my top 5 just because of CSS... but I've argued that in numerous other threads so I didn't want to start THAT again ha.
We agree on so much.
Yeah, I just wish he (Nate) wouldn't fiddle so much with his voice and the upper falsetto stuff. Not really what I was expecting following I&L. I just remember hearing that Chris was really depressed or messed up or something and that's what inspired that cycle of Sound The Alarm, Under The Boards, and whatever their new record will be. That's why I thought there might be something to their eariler stuff too.
Agree so much with what you said about his voice. Next record is supposed to be called "Daybreak"

[Bryant]

I've never understood the divine appeal of TTTYG. While their best, I could never really see past its poppy, upbeat demeanor. It's the type of album I can listen to while driving around with a group of people but could never listen to when I'm alone and wanting substance/fullfillment. Everything about FOB's music has always seemed too made-to-be-heard-and-nothing-else if you get my drift.



I don't consider "later TSL" to be pop-punk either. Direction, Chase This Light, Clarity, and Futures are outside the confines of the genre. Bleed American is the only JEW record I could see as being "pop-punk." I also agree that pop-punk" and "pop-rock" are way to similar to be always deciphered. Albums like NFG's S/T is undoubtedly pop-punk but other records like SILYMI are questionable. Actually, I do like Chase This Light much more than Direction-- "Island" is an incredible song but not much else grabs my attention.TTTYG's lyrics are unsurpassable in my book in a time where all I thought about was growin up, girls, and friends. The music hit hard and fast. I see the album like a "Gentle Giant". The power of the music and lyrics show agressivness but still, in the end all they want is some good friends and a girl around the arm.

[AussieBoy]

startling line, love em.. death cab.. just never did it for me, go back to the OC bitches!

[Ryzenfall]

Death Cab will probably win this. I had to go with TSL because I listen to Direction almost twice as much as everything by DCFC.

But DCFC is great and I'd say lyrically way superior.

[RAMROD85]

I've never understood the divine appeal of TTTYG. While their best, I could never really see past its poppy, upbeat demeanor. It's the type of album I can listen to while driving around with a group of people but could never listen to when I'm alone and wanting substance/fullfillment. Everything about FOB's music has always seemed too made-to-be-heard-and-nothing-else if you get my drift.
When it comes to FOB, I consider pre 2005 FOB one band, and anything after a different band... Take This To Your Grave, when it first came out, and when they toured with it, was everything I could have asked for in an album. The lyrics are phenominal, and I see substance in them in the sense that I could pull quotes from the album and use them to describe the most emotional moments of my life (at the time). The whole "made to be heard" concept is how I view their later stuff... but when I saw FOB in 2004, the crowd was full of awesome kids who would mosh and sing every line of Grand Theft Autumn. And the venue was full of insanity and it was AWESOME... it'll never be the same at a FOB show now, and I'm so fucking glad I caught them before the mainstream era hit...

I never viewed it as upbeat and poppy with lyrics like "breaking hearts has never looked so cool as when you wrap your car around a tree, your makeup looks so great next to his teeth" ha <3 love it forever.

[speakhandsforme]

When it comes to FOB, I consider pre 2005 FOB one band, and anything after a different band... Take This To Your Grave, when it first came out, and when they toured with it, was everything I could have asked for in an album. The lyrics are phenominal, and I see substance in them in the sense that I could pull quotes from the album and use them to describe the most emotional moments of my life (at the time). The whole "made to be heard" concept is how I view their later stuff... but when I saw FOB in 2004, the crowd was full of awesome kids who would mosh and sing every line of Grand Theft Autumn. And the venue was full of insanity and it was AWESOME... it'll never be the same at a FOB show now, and I'm so fucking glad I caught them before the mainstream era hit...

I never viewed it as upbeat and poppy with lyrics like "breaking hearts has never looked so cool as when you wrap your car around a tree, your makeup looks so great next to his teeth" ha <3 love it forever.

Haha, well you make a convincing argument. It's not so much the lyrical prowess but the delivery that makes it seem to land softly with me.

There are albums with mediocre lyrics that really carry an incredible amount of value with me because of the delivery of the words like Number One Fan's Compromises and others have the exact opposite complex. However, I may be biased. FOB toured with Coheed in 04-05 (directly after their big break)....and because of that, the general intelligent, age, devotion, and overall quality of the crowd suffered. I really don't like knocking over 12-year old girls wearing high heels. It's just not a hobby of mine.

[fadedmemories]

When it comes to FOB, I consider pre 2005 FOB one band, and anything after a different band... Take This To Your Grave, when it first came out, and when they toured with it, was everything I could have asked for in an album. The lyrics are phenominal, and I see substance in them in the sense that I could pull quotes from the album and use them to describe the most emotional moments of my life (at the time). The whole "made to be heard" concept is how I view their later stuff... but when I saw FOB in 2004, the crowd was full of awesome kids who would mosh and sing every line of Grand Theft Autumn. And the venue was full of insanity and it was AWESOME... it'll never be the same at a FOB show now, and I'm so fucking glad I caught them before the mainstream era hit...

I never viewed it as upbeat and poppy with lyrics like "breaking hearts has never looked so cool as when you wrap your car around a tree, your makeup looks so great next to his teeth" ha <3 love it forever.
I'm so jealous right now haha

I especially love Chicago Is So Two Years Ago

[Broden Terry]

I voted The Starting Line. I could never really get into Death Cab :shrug:

[RAMROD85]

Haha, well you make a convincing argument. It's not so much the lyrical prowess but the delivery that makes it seem to land softly with me.

There are albums with mediocre lyrics that really carry an incredible amount of value with me because of the delivery of the words like Number One Fan's Compromises and others have the exact opposite complex. However, I may be biased. FOB toured with Coheed in 04-05 (directly after their big break)....and because of that, the general intelligent, age, devotion, and overall quality of the crowd suffered. I really don't like knocking over 12-year old girls wearing high heels. It's just not a hobby of mine.
completely understood...

I used to get so irritated with all the kids who bitch about their favorite bands making it big because they didn't want the exclusiveness and tightness of the shows and fanbase to suffer... but I've been understanding it more and more as FOB sells out arenas and ATL shows are full of girls wearing tiny tank tops and covered in makeup... it's a shame but it's unavoidable...

I guess that's why I'll always adore NFG... the shows are consistently awesome... I guess the chicks that wear heels avoid NFG shows............awesome.

[RAMROD85]

I'm so jealous right now haha

I especially love Chicago Is So Two Years Ago
aw you're saying you never caught a show before 2005? that's a damn shame because you are completely passionate about that album! and you should be jealous haha... the guys used to hang out in the venue before their set and just talk to everyone... it's so fn weird to think about because they don't come out anymore... that's why I feel like there are two different bands- pre and post '05.

[speakhandsforme]

completely understood...

I used to get so irritated with all the kids who bitch about their favorite bands making it big because they didn't want the exclusiveness and tightness of the shows and fanbase to suffer... but I've been understanding it more and more as FOB sells out arenas and ATL shows are full of girls wearing tiny tank tops and covered in makeup... it's a shame but it's unavoidable...

I guess that's why I'll always adore NFG... the shows are consistently awesome... I guess the chicks that wear heels avoid NFG shows............awesome.

Well, there could be an explanation for that. One of my ex's once told me long ago that NFG lacks sex appeal with Jordan's face and Ian's less than taught-school-boy physique. But, then again, she liked to listen to Drop Dead Gorgeous during her basketball practices, so maybe she was mentally-handicapped in hindsight.

[RAMROD85]

Well, there could be an explanation for that. One of my ex's once told me long ago that NFG lacks sex appeal with Jordan's face and Ian's less than taught-school-boy physique. But, then again, she liked to listen to Drop Dead Gorgeous during her basketball practices, so maybe she was mentally-handicapped in hindsight.
hahaha...

I think the hardcore kids that show up at their shows intimidate young kids and girls... it's usually a 20+ male crowd at the venues they play at in the NE. hahaha I hate how girls only listen to bands that have attractive band members... I think Ian's gut is awesome.

[aoftbsten]

TSL, I grew up with them and I honestly find death cab boring.

[speakhandsforme]

hahaha...

I think the hardcore kids that show up at their shows intimidate young kids and girls... it's usually a 20+ male crowd at the venues they play at in the NE. hahaha I hate how girls only listen to bands that have attractive band members... I think Ian's gut is awesome.

I love Ian. At Warped a few years ago I had nothing for him to sign other than a condom that were being given out. When I gave it to him, he laughed and said that he couldn't see past his gut to put a condom on himself but for me to enjoy. It was the highlight of my day.

[fadedmemories]

aw you're saying you never caught a show before 2005? that's a damn shame because you are completely passionate about that album! and you should be jealous haha... the guys used to hang out in the venue before their set and just talk to everyone... it's so fn weird to think about because they don't come out anymore... that's why I feel like there are two different bands- pre and post '05.
I know, sad isn't it? I admit I'm one of the millions of FOB fans who discovered them through FUCT, but TTYG is my favorite record of all time. I wish I was born earlier :-(

[xNyssa]

Death Cab For Cutie by far. Although I never heard of The Startling Line, DC is my favourite band so :P

[theguy77]

its one thing to find death cab boring. its another thing to find death cab boring because you only listen to pop-punk and they dont make that sound so they're automatically not interesting to you. thats just being musically ignorant and immature.

[kazuma_ootaro28]

Definitely Death Cab For Cutie. The Starting Line is garbage, except for about two of their songs.

[Hamlet]

TSL have some awesome songs, but Death Cab has got a stronger emotional connection with me.

+1 for DCfC

[blinkme]

love both of these bands but TSL is my pick hands down.

[theguy77]

oh man dont even get me started on emotional appeal. TSL is like yeah great your girlfriend broke up with you, you're 15 years old and you dated her for 2 months you'll live. death cab on the other hand is like, for me personally, one of the most pathologically appealing bands out there for a number of reasons, from the simplistic yet incredibly aphoric, meta-contextual, and imagery-driven lyrics all the way down to the quaint and candid splendor of gibbard's unique, soft, pleasantly nasal vocal delivery. its hard to find more earnest songwriting than what's seen on transatlanticism and plans.

/trying too hard to use just the right words to explain what i was gettting at hahaha

[Kid Freash]

The Starting Line reminds me of the golden age of Drive Thru Records, plus you can't rock out to death cab

[theguy77]

The Starting Line reminds me of the golden age of Drive Thru Records, plus you can't rock out to death cab

okay go listen to "we laugh indoors", "crooked teeth", and "we looked like giants" and then try and come back at me with that shit.

oh and "long division" that one too.

[kazuma_ootaro28]

The Starting Line reminds me of the golden age of Drive Thru Records, plus you can't rock out to death cab

I find "The Sound of Settling" a lot more enjoyable to rock out to than fucking "Bedroom Talk".

[theguy77]

hahaha bedroom talk blows hard, at least songs like "the best of me" have some sort of pop-punk value

[Kid Freash]

okay go listen to "we laugh indoors", "crooked teeth", and "we looked like giants" and then try and come back at me with that shit.

oh and "long division" that one too.

You know what I will! brb

[theguy77]

You know what I will! brb

oh! awesome haha. we laugh indoors takes awhile to develop but once you really get into it you'll see what i mean.

EDIT: i might have just got pwned by sarcasm but i can hope he actually listened :shrug:

[Keagan Ilvonen]

I love TSL but they can't compare to DCFC. Sorry Kenny.

[Naenia]

Damn, that's close but I never got Death Cab. At all.

[Kid Freash]

oh! awesome haha. we laugh indoors takes awhile to develop but once you really get into it you'll see what i mean.

EDIT: i might have just got pwned by sarcasm but i can hope he actually listened :shrug:

haha well I took a listen (thanks to projectplaylist.com) and crooked teeth is a decent track and we looked like giants rocked! but in a different kind of rainy day rock type day but I will resend my previous comment. And you can't listen to The Starting Lines last album (Direction) and tell me tracks like 21 and Birds doesn't rock!

[theguy77]

I disagree dude. I used to be very close minded about music and mainly listened to pop punk and a few other bands at the beginning of high school and found DCFC boring then. My tastes have expanded and diversified greatly since then and I still find them mind numbingly boring. I find DCFC to be incredibly boring mainly because of Ben Gibbard's voice and how it sounds the same in almost every song. I'm well aware they are a talented but they just aren't for me, Besides their vocals I enjoy their music but vocals are what make or break a band for me so I don't like them

no thats what i was saying, i was saying that its fine to think they're boring. but if you think they're boring and all you listen to is pop-punk then thats an opinion made out of immaturity and not credibility. its perfectly fine if your tastes diversified and you still think them boring, although i think limiting your opinion of them simply to ben's voice is a really shallow and trivial justification for not liking them, and that there is a lot of genius in both the writing and the production that you're overlooking just because hes not a pop singer. but i guess a perspective cant be changed with logic; you perceive what you perceive no matter how trivial.

[theguy77]

haha well I took a listen (thanks to projectplaylist.com) and crooked teeth is a decent track and we looked like giants rocked! but in a different kind of rainy day rock type day but I will resend my previous comment. And you can't listen to The Starting Lines last album (Direction) and tell me tracks like 21 and Birds doesn't rock!

oh sweet man im glad you listened! i think death cab has all kinds of appeal. :-)

[just-in.]

Yeah, I really do not like Death Cab. The Starting Line should be winning this.

[3mpire]

Direction at the least should be held up as high as Chase This Light by JEW (not all of JEW's discography). Both came out around the same time, and both were the biggest steps forward in the genre (pop-rock, pop-punk) yet.
Really?.... I found Chase This Light incredible generic and predictable.

Death Cab For Cutie will be remembered for what they've done for indie music. I don't see TSL being remembered for what they've done for pop punk.
100x over. Seriously. Photo Album <3

[:-)]

This is the hardest one yet.

[the1]

Its close!!

But DCFC are more diverse. Even if Direction was awesome...

[Heart-A-Tact]

TSL holds a ridiculous amount of nostalgic value with me.

[theguy77]

Why is it? For me vocals are the deciding factor if I enjoy a band. His voice simply lacks emotion and enthusiasm. He sounds like he isn't giving it his all. Compare his vocals to say Andy Hull's and Andy shits all over Ben Gibbard. His voice just packs an emotional wallop and his delivery is so sincere. The singer of Clap Your Hands has a terrible yet appealing voice and stlil sounds more convincing than Gibbard. I am extremely open minded when it comes to vocalists but just can't stand him

im doing my best to respect your opinion, but i cant help but to actually feel offended by this. so many bands write incredible music without having talented vocals and for you to overlook the meat of the band because of one component of the band is a massive waste of quality music, an entire creative process, and the heart and soul of those musicians. and i mean its not even like ben has an abrasive or annoying voice that hurts your ears -- i for one usually cant stand to listen to screaming/growling music, but just becuase his voice isnt expressive to you? i just really cant have this discussion with you in all honesty, i disagree too much with the foundation of your perspective.

[theguy77]

Well I can and I fucking love some #12, Dillinger, Red Chord and Cephalic Carnage. I understand if those vocals don't appeal to everybody but don't get mad when people don't care for that type of music. Obviously your too much of a fucking fan boy to accept somebody elses' opinion about Gibbard's vocals. So basically you feel the same way about heavy music as I do about Gibbard. You can't stand the vocals so you don't like the music. Honestly you sound like a damn hypocrite.

wow way to be a fucking douchebag when i was attempting to be respectful. when you're done patting yourself on the back for pointing out my hypocrisy you can read my fucking post again and realize that i was noting a distinction between disliking vocals becuase they are abrasive/unlistenable to you and disliking the whole band because the vocals are boring to you. you said, ben's a boring singer, therefore i dont like death cab. thats much different and more trivial than saying, screaming vocals are harsh on my ears, its hard to listen around them and appreciate the music. get your head out of your ass.

by the way, it's called music, not vocalism. i refrained from calling you single-minded before but you just proved that you wholeheartedly deserve that description.

[absolution]

wow, currently at 244/ 244 (my vote just tied it omgz)

[Samlynire...]

Holy shit. As of right now The Starting Line has a four point lead! So close. I love it! [[Oh and I voted for The Starting Line as Death Cab isn't nearly as good.]]

[SteffRyanFail]

I like the starting line.. but I listen to death cab a lott more.

[IWasHerHorse]

wow way to be a fucking douchebag when i was attempting to be respectful. when you're done patting yourself on the back for pointing out my hypocrisy you can read my fucking post again and realize that i was noting a distinction between disliking vocals becuase they are abrasive/unlistenable to you and disliking the whole band because the vocals are boring to you. you said, ben's a boring singer, therefore i dont like death cab. thats much different and more trivial than saying, screaming vocals are harsh on my ears, its hard to listen around them and appreciate the music. get your head out of your ass.

by the way, it's called music, not vocalism. i refrained from calling you single-minded before but you just proved that you wholeheartedly deserve that description.

It's not different, it doesn't have to be harsh on your ears at all; you make it sound like heavy bands are giving you hearing damage so there's a justifiable reason not to like them. It's all a matter of opinion, I love Death Cab For Cutie, but I could see how someone else wouldn't like it, and who cares if they don't.

[Everiggs]

This has been the most difficult yet...I can't believe I had to make a choice.

In any event, I picked TSL because they were such a huge part of my teenage years. But it was damn close.

[5cent tour]

The Starting Line is definitely the better of the two. They got me into the scene and I will love them forever, so yeah, they win.

[CS Lewis]

This is a joke. It really is. People are voting for nostalgic reasons purely. TSL was NOT that great. Their music did not stand out as anything special. They contributed to a scene, not to music. I love listening to them because they are a fun band, but your average music listener would not be able to distinguish TSL's "The Best of Me" from Yellowcard's "Ocean Avenue." True story. DCFC is easily a better band for being more musically talented and more musically diverse. This is turning into a popularity contest.

[topher465]

Say It Like You Mean It is such a nostalgic album, but I love death cab.

[theguy77]

It's not different, it doesn't have to be harsh on your ears at all; you make it sound like heavy bands are giving you hearing damage so there's a justifiable reason not to like them. It's all a matter of opinion, I love Death Cab For Cutie, but I could see how someone else wouldn't like it, and who cares if they don't.

i wasnt just talking about death cab for cutie, i just dont like the idea of dismissing music becuase the vocals dont showcase enough talent in general. i do physically have a hard time listening to some screaming music becuase it really does fuck with my ears and make it difficult for me to pay attention to the music. whereas if you find a vocalist to be bland you can easily dig deeper and its not like its this huge aesthetic block to your ability to appreciate their creativity or songwriting. also theres a difference between disliking a certain vocal STYLE thats emphasized in the music (like the screaming in hardcore), and just thinking the singer isn't talented enough. for example, rap music puts a focal point on talking instead of singing, and not being a fan of that STYLE essentially has to do with the creative aesthetic of the music rather than merely the talent of the performer. there are several different ways in which vocals can manipulate your perspective, and there are many different ways your perspective can be manipulated. theres a plethora of reasons a person could like say manchester orchestra more than death cab, and i just think that the talent of the vocalist is a shallow one, considering last time i checked, original music is usually meant to be an expression of creativity, not a talent show. (of course there's grey area; for example if a singer cant sing on pitch, you cant tell what notes are SUPPOSED to be sung so that also interferes with the analysis of the writing).

so, with all that explained, it wasnt the fact he doesnt like DCFC that bothered me; he contested a post of mine that directly stated "its fine if you think death cab is boring." it was his reason for thinking so that bothered me, and after trying to politely express that, he got pissy with me so thats why it got ugly.

[meghanlail]

The Starting Line. DCFC never did anything for me.

[cscwell107]

TSL. DCFC can bore me sometimes even though they are a good band.

[CS Lewis]

That is exactly what the whole thing it about. The question is which is your favorite band not which band is more talented or diverse.

That is very true. Point taken.

[Dr. Acula]

Hahaha The Starting Line is winning. That's a flat out shame.

[Formatfun]

Aww I want Death Cab to win, but it's so close. I think Death Cab has more solid albums overall, but Say It Like You Mean It is my favorite album between both of these two band's albums.

[ashiex3]

A little hard for me, but I had to go with Death Cab.

[WoodenSoldier]

TSL all the way, no doubt about it

[drewziph]

has anyone realised the posts are not reflecting the poll in the slightest? :p

DCFC by a fucking mile.

[citylites]

oh my FUCKING god if death cab loses im seriously going to have to take a break from this site.

Wow, me too.

[fly_guy]

Oooh, it's a close one

[lolliot]

Wow, Death Cab isn't winning by a mile? I put in a vote for them though, it will probably be the deciding one.

[jimjam32]

WHAT?!

:lol: :uhno:

hahahahahaha death cab. hipster. laughing my fucking ass off (yes i did spell that out)>

Death Cab are far from "hipster" indie-rock.


i enjoy some death cab, but i have hipster-indie-rock friends who hate on everything that isn't deathcab-like.

[3mpire]

Well nostalgia is the culprit. Its the same reason why Blink will win or at least be in the top 2
Sadly this is the truth.

More people need to vote Death Cab! Come guys.

[googirl8907]

The Starting Line.

[live.]

Death Cab's the better band, but I like TSL more.

[¡vivalasanti!]

this one is gonna be really close... it's at a five vote difference right now :o

personally, i love both.
tsl wins for me, though.

[futurebreed]

The Starting Line RIP

[Kill_the_radio]

Though one, but I went for TSL

[Circa1628]

Keep up the votes for TSL

[zubinmoosa]

The Starting Line by far for me personally. But I'll be surprised if Death Cab doesn't take this. Hope TSL does though.

[WFUJerseyJon]

TOUGH match up, but there are few bands that hold the place in my heart that The Starting Line does.

[Chemical Love]

Went with Death Cab because I still listen to them.

[TwoTongues]

hah.. I just gave TSL 1 Up. this is close! enjoy them much more than death cab, though they're good too.

EDIT: DAMN.. so much for that 1 point lead...

[Circa1628]

wow 361-361

[shift]

voted TSL.

The Starting Line 357
Death Cab 358

holy shit.

[blimpcityhero11]

This was a tough one...I have such a connection to TSL, but I think Death Cab is the superb band musically. However, I went with TSL just because I feel like Death Cab will win.

[gatewaydrug]

this is a good one!

[phoenixinflames]

Whoa this poll is close. I went with Death Cab.

[bailmeout13]

Death Cab.

[therookielot]

someone tie this up!

[Circa1628]

c'mon TSL

[trappedintime]

This is hard. But I chose DCFC. And now they're winning by my one vote.

[taylerx0]

Dead even! But I went with TSL because I never really could get into DCFC.

[teej_1106]

How is this a first round match up? Poor seeding if you ask me.

[crimsonandclovr]

TSL for me. So many memories. and i still love playing their old stuff.

death cab is good.. but sometimes a bit boring

[MattDennis]

Tough choice, but Death Cab's songs just mean so much more for me.

[SomedayTheFire]

Serious? Death Cab all the way. TSL are good, but not that good.

[batmannj]

wow that was a difficult choice. In the end I went with Death Cab because I think their discography is more consistent.

[verity38]

wow 50-50 all tied up

[RamInGoreville]

TSL has an immense amount of nostalgic value to me so I had to with them. I miss K-Dog.

Really a tough one though, both these bands mean a lot to me.

[_Andrew]

voted death cab... as of this post its in the lead by only 1... Death Cab better win.. I mean TSL is good too but c'mon this is Ben Gibbard for fucks sake.

edit: as i pressed post.. it seems its a tie now.

[ericsounds41]

How is The Starting Line keeping up with Death Cab? This is way too close.

[Montauk1222]

Voted Death Cab even though I love both

[mcdizzle88]

damn, this one was really hard.

[Galedeep]

Wow a tie.

The Starting Line, 'Best of Me' was probably one of my most played songs in high school and was huge in getting me into pop-punk. Never been able to get into Death Cab. But to be fair I've never really tried.

[wahwah16]

The Starting Line..hands down

[MADSTA]

Wawawewoo it's close!
Come on people, vote Death Cab!

[Xianmusicfan]

How is this tied?!?!? Death Cab is 10 times better than 90% of the bands mentioned on this site, including TSL.

[xhandgunxheart]

Starting Line, hands down.
Dont get me wrong, I love DCFC, but SILYMI is better than anything they've done.

[whenyourearound]

I understand that death cab is the better band musically and do like them, but I love TSL and have been listening to the sweet sounds of pop-punk for years. Some people need to get off their high fucking horses about how DCFC is the greatest band and stop shitting on pop-punk.

[ihatecayte]

it hassssss to be death cab. it just does.

[uglystar03]

I love both of these bands, but I feel Death Cab has a more consistent discography.

[Dirge07]

Wow this is a pretty close battle. Both awesome bands, but it's TSL for me though

[mxpxjf]

Never did like Death Cab. TSL, as far as I'm concerned, has never put out a bad disc.

[hydraulicheart]

I do not like how close this is. DCFC, for me.

[JoeJealousy]

dont care about dcfc....starting line are one of the most underrated bands ever

[ben_jamin_john]

Death Cab shows so much more variety,

although i do enjoy both, but death cab can fit so many moods and dynamics.
there for they win, no questions asked.

[TheGoodnightMoon]

I have TSL to thank for getting me into music, but DCFC discography is solid through and through. Plus I haven't touched a TSL album in over a year, I listen to Death Cab at least once a week.

[Broclee]

i enjoy some death cab, but i have hipster-indie-rock friends who hate on everything that isn't deathcab-like.
Death Cab for Cutie are possibly one of the most accessible indie-rock/pop bands out there today, I have some "hipster" friends who've disowned Death Cab because everyone and their mother loves I Will Follow You Into the Dark.

[drudo182]

Yay. Starting Line is now winning.

[friskycurtain]

Love both but love The Starting Line more

[bobby runs]

see i feel good about how this thread is turning out, but thats just a false sense of security becuase even if death cab wins this they will just lose to another boring unoriginal pop-punk band later.

Its one thing to find death cab boring. its another thing to find death cab boring because you only listen to pop-punk and they dont make that sound so they're automatically not interesting to you. thats just being musically ignorant and immature.
Okay first of all you and other people need to realize the target audience of this website. It's called Absolute PUNK and although much of the music isn't straight up punk it is closer to it than Death Cab will ever be. I feel the only reason Death Cab is even in this is because a lot of users from this site (who were probably brought in because of a band like TSL) really like them. It's the truth and on that fact alone TSL should trump DCFC.

Now musically DCFC has only left me with one satisfied album, Narrow Stairs. I can't get into Transatlanticism. I like the "darker" DCFC over the older stuff. Also you can't tell me that "The Best Of Me" hasn't been one of the biggest songs of this genre in the last ten years.

When I first saw this match up I thought DCFC was gonna win this easier than the polls are showing so thank you TSL fans for coming out. It's AP.net's favorite band NOT Shitfork's
Death Cab's the better band, but I like TSL more.
I agree with this musically. TSL has done WAYYYYYY more for me than DCFC ever will. I also refused to get into DCFC for the longest time because at my high school "it was the thing to do."