colts biggest challenge?

[TJ.Wells]

who will b the colts biggest challenge to a perfect regular season?

[NetNerdsRevenge]

Either Jax or San Diego. The Seattle game probably wont mean much since they will probably have the division. Unless Seattle feels like playing spoiler...

If anyone can do it, I think SD can. They have to step up in the next 5 games to make the playoffs.

[underthetalking]

No.one.

Perfect.

[Drew Beringer]

Chargers will the biggest threat.

[dangets]

chargers. i'll be rooting for the upset.

[weezer182]

san diego

[still_life]

It's the Seahawks, because they'll be 14-0, and there'll be a lot of pressure to play the starters, which Dungy said he will rest guys. It'll be hard to win at Seattle with Jim Sorgi and Rhodes. On the other hand, Seattle could also be playing their back ups. We might see a pre-season game in week 16. I'm not sure which team has better depth.

[afk999]

Chargers and Seahawks are the only threats on there unless they decide to start resting their starters

[weezer182]

Chargers and Seahawks are the only threats on there unless they decide to start resting their starters i would consider jacksonville a threat. they only lost by a touchtown earlier this year in indy

[livethesounds]

No team is hitting their stride like the colts are. It was comical to think that Pittsburgh could contend monday night. The chargers will contend the most, but as much as Pittsburgh could, the only teams that could possibly stop Indi are Cinncinati, Denver, or Kansas City because they have the type of team that could contend with the Colts O & D. If they dont face any of those teams in the playoffs then absoluteley 100%, the second best team in leauge history, and go undeafeated.

[Katie Schmitz]

I'd say Seattle. Don't they play at Seattle too?

[afk999]

i would consider jacksonville a threat. they only lost by a touchtown earlier this year in indy
not without leftwich

[weezer182]

not without leftwich good point but im still giving them a chance at home

[somethingyellow]

chargers

[NetNerdsRevenge]

It's the Seahawks, because they'll be 14-0, and there'll be a lot of pressure to play the starters, which Dungy said he will rest guys. It'll be hard to win at Seattle with Jim Sorgi and Rhodes. On the other hand, Seattle could also be playing their back ups. We might see a pre-season game in week 16. I'm not sure which team has better depth.
You really think the colts will play their second string with history on the line?

[btbam > you]

the chargers. by far.

[still_life]

If they dont face any of those teams in the playoffs then absoluteley 100%, the second best team in leauge history, and go undeafeated.

Who's #1?

You really think the colts will play their second string with history on the line?

Dungy's that kind of coach. The players would have to talk him out of it.

[Drew Beringer]

Who's #1?
Dungy's that kind of coach. The players would have to talk him out of it.

Dungy is that kind of coach, but I really think he would go for it. The city of Indianapolis hopes so.

And I think that guy meant the 72 Dolphins as the number one team in NFL history.

[still_life]

And I think that guy meant the 72 Dolphins as the number one team in NFL history.

Blah, I hope not. I believe that team had the easiest schedule ever for a SB champion in the SB era. And look at all the games they barely won. I'll take the 85 Bears over the 72 Dolphins any day.

[Fullcollapse3k]

There's a chance Seattle's sitting their starters by the time Indy comes into town. If they're still playing their starters at that point, and Indy isn't, then Seattle wins.

But I think they go 16-0.

[still_life]

Seattle and Indy are dumb if they play that game like a preseason game. What better way to prepare for a playoff run then to go balls out against each other? I doubt the #1 seeds in each conference ever had a regular season game between each other in week 16 before.

[commatosa]

Blah, I hope not. I believe that team had the easiest schedule ever for a SB champion in the SB era. And look at all the games they barely won. I'll take the 85 Bears over the 72 Dolphins any day.

you're a retard then. it's like saying the 96 Chicago bulls weren't that good of a team. The fact that the 72 dolphins didn't lose 1 single game makes them, by default, the greatest team of all time. Doesn't matter there schedule, it was still in the NFL.

[still_life]

No, it's nothing like saying anything about a basketball team. The Dolphins were not the best team ever. And they also only played 17 games, not the 19 you'd have to play now. 18-1, with pretty much dominating wins (especially in the playoffs against the best teams) every single week is better than the "barely made it through the year" 17-0 record that Dolphins team had.

[Spicoli hey bud]

No, it's nothing like saying anything about a basketball team. The Dolphins were not the best team ever. And they also only played 17 games, not the 19 you'd have to play now. 18-1, with pretty much dominating wins (especially in the playoffs against the best teams) every single week is better than the "barely made it through the year" 17-0 record that Dolphins team had.
Wrong. The Dolphins WERE the best team ever. They did not lose. You can't hold the fact that they played less games against them. That team could have won 19 if they had to, yet there's no way of ever knowing. Regardless of any stat or record you can throw in there, the fact remains that this team DID NOT LOSE. This alone makes them the best ever.

[NetNerdsRevenge]

still_life...if at all possible, bring up stats about the defenses and offenses each team faced over the course of their regular season. Combine that with the points they scored, yards they gained, and vice versa for their defense.

1 because itll be interesting to see
2 I dont know enough about football stats to do it
3 I have a feeling youre right, and this may shut these people up.

[G-Unit]

dungy is not going to play second string when he can go down as the coach of the best team ever. the gayphins won it bakc in 72. the league is different now. everyone is gigantic. the chargers have the best shot because of.............LT. duh. everyone thought the steelrs were gonna do it and then peyton throws an 80yd touchdown pass to start the colts drive. 16-0 greatest nfl team ever. theyll win the superbowl and usc will win the national title. great football everywhere

[still_life]

I don't care if they didn't lose to their pop warner schedule, they weren't the best team. Just look at the playoff runs. Bears outscored their opponents 91-10, while Miami struggled every week to win 55-38. 91-10 against the best teams.

[still_life]

still_life...if at all possible, bring up stats about the defenses and offenses each team faced over the course of their regular season. Combine that with the points they scored, yards they gained, and vice versa for their defense.
1 because itll be interesting to see
2 I dont know enough about football stats to do it
3 I have a feeling youre right, and this may shut these people up.

Maybe tomorrow. Only thing I'm really impressed about with the Dolphins is that they had two 1000 yard rushers. Other than that on offense, no one even caught 30 passes, and the combined QB stats were average.

[Spicoli hey bud]

still_life...if at all possible, bring up stats about the defenses and offenses each team faced over the course of their regular season. Combine that with the points they scored, yards they gained, and vice versa for their defense.

1 because itll be interesting to see
2 I dont know enough about football stats to do it
3 I have a feeling youre right, and this may shut these people up.
The stats mean absolutely nothing. There's no true way to determine which team was better, because they played in different decades, against different teams, with different players.

[Spicoli hey bud]

dungy is not going to play second string when he can go down as the coach of the best team ever. the gayphins won it bakc in 72. the league is different now. everyone is gigantic. the chargers have the best shot because of.............LT. duh. everyone thought the steelrs were gonna do it and then peyton throws an 80yd touchdown pass to start the colts drive. 16-0 greatest nfl team ever. theyll win the superbowl and usc will win the national title. great football everywhere
funny, I seem to remember dungy saying the complete opposite.

[Spicoli hey bud]

Maybe tomorrow. Only thing I'm really impressed about with the Dolphins is that they had two 1000 yard rushers. Other than that on offense, no one even caught 30 passes, and the combined QB stats were average.
Exactly. But the point of these facts are that they dominated the clock and the ball control in their games. They weren't really "squeakers." Morris and Csanka were incredible, and went through most of the season without their leader, Griese, in the lineup. They did exactly what they needed to do everygame, and it was a perfect success.

[still_life]

I think there's a difference between "doing enough to win every week" and blowing out the competition every week. The Bears only lost one game, and I believe they were without Jim McMahon for it. And that was going to be an almost impossible game to win. 85 Dolphins weren't as good as the 84 team, but still not bad. Marino is the perfect QB to face the 46 defense, and he was all over it that night. It was in Miami, on MNF, the team had to protect the undefeated season, and did. Still doesn't take away from the other 18 games.

[Spicoli hey bud]

No you're right, the 1 game doesn't take away form the other 18. I can honestly say that I think that the 85 bears was the best defense of all time, hands down. But I don't see how you can say any team was better than a team that did not lose. In the words of the coach of the team I hate the most in the league..."You play to win the game." The 72 dolphins did just that, perfectly.

[still_life]

Didn't the Louisville Cardinals go 11-1 in NCAAF last year? I think so. It's like saying Utah (12-0) was a better team because they didn't lose a game. Yeah, but the Cardinals had the craziest offense and actually played some good teams, while Utah's in the Mountain West.

[Spicoli hey bud]

Didn't the Louisville Cardinals go 11-1 in NCAAF last year? I think so. It's like saying Utah (12-0) was a better team because they didn't lose a game. Yeah, but the Cardinals had the craziest offense and actually played some good teams, while Utah's in the Mountain West.
College is one thing, the NFL is another...
in the NFL every team is legit. Not losing in a season will ALWAYS be an accomplishment.
So no, it's nothing like saying Utah is a better team.

[still_life]

It's a better example than the 96 Bulls.

I have a hard time keeping a straight face at the thought of Houston or the Jets being legit this year, or Houston being legit in 1972 for that matter. And the 72 Dolphins will always be a great accomplishment, but best team ever? Nah

[Spicoli hey bud]

It's a better example than the 96 Bulls.

I have a hard time keeping a straight face at the thought of Houston or the Jets being legit this year, or Houston being legit in 1972 for that matter. And the 72 Dolphins will always be a great accomplishment, but best team ever? Nah
The basketball comparison was not really very accurate and quite frankly, I skipped over that entire part of the post. But you're going to tell me that you think going undefeated in a weak college conference is just as big of a feat as doing it in the NFL? No way. Obviously some teams are going to be weaker than others, but to beat each and every team that you face in a given season; that is superb. The fact still remains that in the NFL, moreso than college, any given team can win on any given day.

[still_life]

I don't remember the SOS or feel like adding it up, but I think the 72 Dolphins faced a schedule with teams that had a .340-ish winning average. That's very very weak, similar to playing a weak college schedule. I believe in "any given Sunday", but you don't often see teams with 2 wins beating a team with 12 wins.

[Spicoli hey bud]

I don't remember the SOS or feel like adding it up, but I think the 72 Dolphins faced a schedule with teams that had a .340-ish winning average. That's very very weak, similar to playing a weak college schedule. I believe in "any given Sunday", but you don't often see teams with 2 wins beating a team with 12 wins.
You can't really hold that against them. They won every game. They outscored their opponents by over 200 points in the regular season. They beat a very respectable steeler team in the playoffs and then a very good redskin team in the superbowl. It was a PERFECT season, and you can't take away the fact that they are the only team ever to accomplish this. They are the best team ever.

[Jesse2]

for the sake of this question, pretend that the '72 dolphins were the best team in history, without debate....

what would the colts have to do to be the best team in history, instead of those dolphins?

in my opinion, they had to listen to people talk about how they didn't have a very challenging schedule, and i think they showed monday night that they aren't fucking around. they made a very good team look silly. i don't see any team beating them in the regular season, unless they take starters out.

[lostntheseethru]

i will be at the game against san diego. i havent been to a colts game in a really long time. i honestly believe the colts "challenge" will come from a team where you least expect it. i was for sure they would lose monday just because everyone was so confident they would win...i just think thats how its gonna go.

[lostntheseethru]

for the sake of this question, pretend that the '72 dolphins were the best team in history, without debate....

what would the colts have to do to be the best team in history, instead of those dolphins?

in my opinion, they had to listen to people talk about how they didn't have a very challenging schedule, and i think they showed monday night that they aren't fucking around. they made a very good team look silly. i don't see any team beating them in the regular season, unless they take starters out.

i think you're right...im sure the starters will be taken out at least the last game. this has been a huge debate at my house...no one understands that being a superbowl contender or champion is much bigger than having an undefeated season. if i were on that team or a coach on that team, there is no way i would debate leaving my starters in just to preserve a perfect record. id much rather have the idea that the superbowl is more accessible if my starters are 100% healthy and ready to do playoff games.

[NetNerdsRevenge]

The stats mean absolutely nothing. There's no true way to determine which team was better, because they played in different decades, against different teams, with different players.
But it still gives you a feel for their competition. Nothing is ever going to be dead on accurate unless it happens in the same season. But throwing aside stats such as these, and claiming the Dolphins better based solely on record is unfair to the Bears. Maybe they did face harder teams in their season than the Dolphins did, which accounted for the one loss. You have to compare, IMO

[Jesse2]

But it still gives you a feel for their competition. Nothing is ever going to be dead on accurate unless it happens in the same season. But throwing aside stats such as these, and claiming the Dolphins better based solely on record is unfair to the Bears. Maybe they did face harder teams in their season than the Dolphins did, which accounted for the one loss. You have to compare, IMO

i agree. too bad this isn't baseball, you'd have 3 pages of stats up here for us all to read. :)

[Goober Snacks]

No ONE

[Spicoli hey bud]

But throwing aside stats such as these, and claiming the Dolphins better based solely on record is unfair to the Bears.
and saying that anyone is better than the dolphins based on a so called "harder schedule" (which may very well be true, yet there's no way to tell) is not fair to the dolphins

it works both ways

[selftitled85]

god you guys are dumb.

dungy will not play his starters because if by chance peyton, harrison, freeney, edge, stokley, or anyone else gets injured he is in trouble. the afc is so hardcore this yr that if one guy goes down things may be very different. dungy is making the correct call. who the fuck cares about that season undefeated mark if you cant win the super bowl?

and miami had the no name defense in the 70s. they were fabulous. in the super bowl they did not allow an offensive td. the td came on a blocked field goal. id call that a good job. if it wasnt for the blocked field goal the game would've ended 17-0. thats pretty good...

[Spicoli hey bud]

god you guys are dumb.

dungy will not play his starters because if by chance peyton, harrison, freeney, edge, stokley, or anyone else gets injured he is in trouble. the afc is so hardcore this yr that if one guy goes down things may be very different. dungy is making the correct call. who the fuck cares about that season undefeated mark if you cant win the super bowl?

and miami had the no name defense in the 70s. they were fabulous. in the super bowl they did not allow an offensive td. the td came on a blocked field goal. id call that a good job. if it wasnt for the blocked field goal the game would've ended 17-0. thats pretty good...
thank you twice

[last light]

their biggest challenge is obviously me. of that list i just went with seahawks because of record.

[lostntheseethru]

their biggest challenge is obviously me. of that list i just went with seahawks because of record.

maybe...its tough for me to say between the seahawks and the chargers...i wanna say chargers just cuz ill be at that game and i want it to be an interesting game haha.

honestly though. a lot of their games lately have been boring cuz they were pretty near blow outs...it sucked watching them play the patriots cuz they were just killing them. monday against the steelers was probably one of the most fun games to watch this season...

[LeftWideOpen]

I'm really surprised there are so little votes for Jacksonville. J'ville has two things going for them: they get the Colts at home and they have the best defense of any team on that list.

No team is going to outscore the Coltsand San Diego's weak pass D isnt going to be able to disrupt their offense at all. Seattle is having an excellent season and they get them at home too, but they still don't have the D to muscle up with Indy and disrupt them either - St.Louis has already put 31 up on them and they run a similar offense.

Jacksonville went on the road to Indy and only gave up 10 points. Leftwich or no Leftwich, your chances of beating Indy skyrocket when you've proven you can shut them down - especially on the road. Greg Jones has stepped right in for Taylor and Garrard will do the same for Leftwich. This is one of the deepest teams in the league, and if any team has a chance, I gotta go with them.