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Oz Gilead
04/11/09, 05:39 PM
So, first post here, and all, I'm hesitant to say anything that won't get thrown back at me with unnecessary cruelty. But I'll try.

At the moment, I'm not thrilled with life. It seems every time I try to make one step toward growing up and becoming a better person, I take ten steps back. I have my heart broken on quite a regular basis, and by that, I mean every time I try to date. I'm behind in school work. So, to ease the pain, I took up smoking as a form of self-flagellation. At this point, I'm willing to try anything to feel better, so, I figure, this is the lesser of many evils.

I just want to feel better about myself again, and at this rate, it looks like it won't happen.

anamericangod
04/11/09, 05:41 PM
What you're saying is you want to feel New Again?

Oz Gilead
04/11/09, 05:48 PM
Yeah. Religiosity is not an option though, because my cynicism, and religion's illogic (which is not a word, but fuck Webster's Dictionary) are present, there's nothing there for me.

I've basically tried most avenues, short of hard drugs (and hopefully I'll never get that bad) and cutting.

You know you're fucked when you wake up and say "Why?" out loud.

timbedinosaur
04/11/09, 05:51 PM
Drugs are bad, mmk.

anamericangod
04/11/09, 05:51 PM
http://www.takingbacksunday.com/_news/data/upimages/NAFINALcoverfw.jpg

thehereaway
04/11/09, 05:53 PM
Could you be more specific with what it is you want to change/what it is you want in life?

leftapart
04/11/09, 05:55 PM
What excuses do you make? Happiness is hard to find. Maybe you're dying inside. Aprils' been so lonely. It's been so long since you've felt her touch. You could care less if you deserve this. You will never survive staying inflicted.

Oz Gilead
04/11/09, 05:55 PM
Most specifically, My loneliness. Yes, I have friends, and they're great. I have family, love 'em to death. I've got everything I need in my life, except for that one person I can turn to who will send me that "Good morning, babe" text, come by after work with a hug and a smile, just do the little things.

.invisible ink.
04/11/09, 05:59 PM
what about trying anti-depressants? even if it's a natural one like 5-htp or SaM-e or St. John's Wort, it's worth a try.

anamericangod
04/11/09, 06:03 PM
Where do you live?

Oz Gilead
04/11/09, 06:05 PM
Oh, I took that route too. It's nice and all... until you forget your meds. Then you lose the forward momentum a nd you forget to take them... for days at a time. and days turn into weeks. You see where I'm going with this. When I said I've tried EVERY ROUTE outside of hard drugs (marijuana notwithstanding) and cutting, you need to know I'm not bullshitting you.

and I live in Florida

anamericangod
04/11/09, 06:06 PM
Ehhhh if you're forgetting to take your meds for days at a time, that's just a matter of personal responsibility and how much you truly care.

Oz Gilead
04/11/09, 06:12 PM
Well, you tend to kind of stop giving a shit about a lot of things when no matter what you do, you always end up depressed when the chips are down.

TheHoldSteady
04/11/09, 06:25 PM
Music usually always helps me.

Oz Gilead
04/11/09, 06:38 PM
Yeah... music passes the time while I smoke my life away.

TheHoldSteady
04/11/09, 06:39 PM
Sounds depressing.

I guess the obvious thing is you need a girlfriend.

thehereaway
04/11/09, 06:43 PM
No disrespect, and i'm sure different situations affect people differently and all, but you can't be this depressed just because you don't have a girlfriend surely? Is there other stuff that gets you down?

The Summer Ends
04/11/09, 06:47 PM
Stay focused on other stuff. Play video games, go out with friends, go to the gym, play basketball, etc. Don't sit inside all day doing nothing.

Oz Gilead
04/11/09, 06:47 PM
its not just the no girlfriend thing. its that I try to put myself out there, better myself. try to meet people, and GET a girlfriend, and every female I've ever been interested in has hurt me in one way or another.

.invisible ink.
04/11/09, 06:57 PM
its not just the no girlfriend thing. its that I try to put myself out there, better myself. try to meet people, and GET a girlfriend, and every female I've ever been interested in has hurt me in one way or another.

excuses and pity parties are fine and well, but if you truly want things to change for the better, you need to take some responsibility for yourself and work towards getting out of this funk. Better yourself, whether that means not forgetting to take your meds or just doing some other form of self-improvement (i.e., take up a hobby, read, go running, etc.). You'll feel better about yourself and girls will be more attracted to you because you're confident and feel good about life. People can pick up on misery, it reeks. It's not easy but nothing worthwhile ever is.

framebyframe
04/11/09, 07:09 PM
I've been there. And I've felt like it will never get better. But right now you have to realize that it is not the end of world. One day you will be old and thinking about how you should have never stressed about something like this. I was in a really bad place for a while. I think the only thing you can do (or at least what made me feel better) is to spend time with family and spend time outside. It really helps to make you feel better. For any problem. Things always get fucked up bet soon enough it will be fine

SeeYouSeptember
04/11/09, 07:11 PM
I hate how you have to pay to go to the gym.

leftapart
04/11/09, 08:24 PM
Maybe your expectations are too high. I didn't read every post on here but you have to just go about your day keeping your head high and hoping for the best. If something great and fantastic comes your way or happens to you, than fucking celebrate! If not, than oh well, its not the end of the world, and you always have tomorrow to look forward to. Make sense?

lonelysuperstar
04/11/09, 11:23 PM
Sounds like you need a good dose of harden the fuck up.

Mr. Ryan
04/11/09, 11:33 PM
Sounds like you need a good dose of harden the fuck up.

Agreed.


While your woes may be completely valid, it sounds like you're just looking at things through the wrong lens. If you wake up thinking shit is going to suck, it will. If you wake up thinking 'I'm going to make today awesome', most likely it will. Stay busy, stay positive. Try not to dwell.

banditandrew
04/12/09, 12:40 AM
its not just the no girlfriend thing. its that I try to put myself out there, better myself. try to meet people, and GET a girlfriend, and every female I've ever been interested in has hurt me in one way or another.


Hey man I was depressed about life for the longest time, thinking things sucked and would never get better. But I fought it and trained myself to think positive. I hated being sad and depressed all the time. I know it is fucken hard, and it will be the hardest thing you will do in your life. But if you can pull it off it will make life that much enjoyable

BryterJonah
04/12/09, 07:49 AM
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anamericangod
04/12/09, 07:52 AM
Buy this shirt:

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BryterJonah
04/12/09, 07:53 AM
Once you realize how unnecessary pity is and stop looking for it, it gets easier to realize what really is necessary. Like, you care about your future and that could be the motivation that totally boosts your self worth.

At least that's how I handled it. Girlfriends are overrated anyway.

TheSkyline
04/12/09, 07:57 AM
What you're saying is you want to feel New Again?

lol, clever.

anamericangod
04/12/09, 07:59 AM
Once you realize how unnecessary pity is and stop looking for it, it gets easier to realize what really is necessary. Like, you care about your future and that could be the motivation that totally boosts your self worth.

At least that's how I handled it. Girlfriends are overrated anyway.

Pity and feeling sorry for yourself is useful to a certain extent. You have to find a way to turn that into motivation or some kind of greater good. You can't just sit there and wallow in it and do nothing. That's just destructive.

pinkzeppelin182
04/12/09, 08:08 AM
Honestly, don't just try to validate your existence with a girl. That's a really unhealthy thing to do. Because even that will never be as good as your imagination wants it to be. Live for yourself and just try to do things mildly productive/fun. Summer is coming up and every time you ever feel like that put on your headphones and go for a walk. Or be even more awesome blast Wham! from a boombox. When I went through this type of thing I started playing guitar and it helped a lot. I've always been a drummer but I just needed a change of pace.

perceptrons
04/12/09, 08:16 AM
Dive head first into some subject of interest, and lose yourself in it. You'll be doing something productive, it'll take your mind off feeling like a loser, and you might even meet someone in the process.

Honestly though, you just sound like you gave up and are too lazy to try and fix anything. Stop being a bum.

killerswells
04/12/09, 08:50 AM
Maybe chill out on smoking pot all the time? When I smoked a lot I felt depressed bc I wasn't accomplishing anything I wanted on a daily basis. I'm not saying quit, but maybe tone it down a little.

Also, start small, make daily goals for yourself to do things like work out, read, talk to friends in person, be socially active. Once you get in a pattern of doing positives in your life, you automatically think positive.

You don't need a girlfriend to make yourself feel happy. You need to love yourself before you can fully love someone else brosef.

ammar
04/12/09, 09:08 AM
^^ I don't think he said he smoked weed, I think he meant cigs...

but anyway you should buy a dog, buy some weed, take up a hobby or sport and play video games. Do all this while listening to muisc to hehe... basically get high, take care of your dog and chillout listen to some great ass music, play video games... hey maybe even play some online games and join a clan/team which have organised matches against other clans. Might sound nerdy, but hey fuck what people say.
Plus, dogs are mans best friends.

LaDiabla
04/12/09, 09:36 AM
Who isn't depressed with life?

Make one weekly goal and try accomplishing it. Baby steps, nothing big. And then build up on that.

Charles777
04/12/09, 09:39 AM
Or be even more awesome blast Wham! from a boombox.

Lol

What you're saying is you want to feel New Again?

I enjoyed this.

As for this guys problem, go out to dinner with your friends. Spend time with positive people.

ascitiesburn101
04/12/09, 10:57 AM
I spent my friday night drinking and smoking with my friends outside of a coffee shop and my ex-girlfriend's friends showed up and I just felt like shit because it's been two months and I'm still chillin' in the depths of self-pity while she's successful and with her boyfriend and happy. I think I'm even making myself sick because I don't really care about my body. Last night I had insanely fucked up dreams and the chills/shakes for hours and am relatively hungover on Easter sunday.

Welcome to the club

Ailite
04/12/09, 11:03 AM
Stay positive, it works

BryterJonah
04/12/09, 11:06 AM
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Welcome to the club :bluesad:

lulz, not really

Srsly
04/12/09, 04:31 PM
So, first post here, and all, I'm hesitant to say anything that won't get thrown back at me with unnecessary cruelty. But I'll try.

At the moment, I'm not thrilled with life. It seems every time I try to make one step toward growing up and becoming a better person, I take ten steps back. I have my heart broken on quite a regular basis, and by that, I mean every time I try to date. I'm behind in school work. So, to ease the pain, I took up smoking as a form of self-flagellation. At this point, I'm willing to try anything to feel better, so, I figure, this is the lesser of many evils.

I just want to feel better about myself again, and at this rate, it looks like it won't happen.

I'm just keeping things going and trying to keep my mind away from analyzing my life.. I'm doing the most impulsive things to make me happy for minutes, fuck long term.

limepomegranate
04/13/09, 12:10 PM
what about trying anti-depressants? even if it's a natural one like 5-htp or SaM-e or St. John's Wort, it's worth a try.
they have natural ones? do they work? because i can't get regular ones til this summer and i'm really suicidal right now. i've tried everything but antidepressants and i can't fucking take it anymore.

tawtaw
04/13/09, 12:35 PM
What you're saying is you want to feel New Again?

Hah, oh my.

Roboman
04/13/09, 12:47 PM
they have natural ones? do they work? because i can't get regular ones til this summer and i'm really suicidal right now. i've tried everything but antidepressants and i can't fucking take it anymore.

:pet::hug:

4N6 science
04/13/09, 12:48 PM
they have natural ones? do they work? because i can't get regular ones til this summer and i'm really suicidal right now. i've tried everything but antidepressants and i can't fucking take it anymore.

I hope everything is ok and that you're talking with someone you trust about how you're feeling.

.invisible ink.
04/13/09, 12:48 PM
they have natural ones? do they work? because i can't get regular ones til this summer and i'm really suicidal right now. i've tried everything but antidepressants and i can't fucking take it anymore.

:-( I'm sorry to hear that. I've been taking 5-htp (5-hydroxy tryptophan) for approx. 10 years in lieu of prescription antidepressants and have had great success. I take between 200-400 mg right before I go to bed each night. I notice a difference within days of taking it if I've stopped for a week or two. It's not cheap, but it is widely available at most vitamin/drug stores, like GNC or Vitamin Shoppe or online at a great site called iherb.com (where I get all my vitamins/supplements) - not big box places like Walmart, Rite Aid, or Target, they don't usually carry it.

I've also heard great things about SaM-e, which I take but not really for depression, so I don't know how it works on its own since I always take the 5-htp.

It might take a few weeks to really get in your system and it might not solve your problem. It helps your body create additional seratonin, so if that's not the reason you're depressed, it may not work properly. I would certainly say, try it for a few weeks and see how you do, if it doesn't work, maybe you should try going to a doctor. Good luck!

anamericangod
04/13/09, 12:52 PM
they have natural ones? do they work? because i can't get regular ones til this summer and i'm really suicidal right now. i've tried everything but antidepressants and i can't fucking take it anymore.

If you really couldn't take it anymore, you would check yourself in someplace and get help. You wouldn't be posting in a bullshit thread on AP.

abusedvictim
04/13/09, 12:59 PM
they have natural ones? do they work? because i can't get regular ones til this summer and i'm really suicidal right now. i've tried everything but antidepressants and i can't fucking take it anymore.


Yo I got 5 on it that she won't make it pass Sunday


Anyone else in?

killerswells
04/13/09, 01:05 PM
Yo I got 5 on it that she won't make it pass Sunday


Anyone else in?


yo thats fucked up.











make it twenty, and i say tuesday.

anamericangod
04/13/09, 01:10 PM
Nah, it'll be longer than that. She's been making posts for a month or two talking about how suicidal she is. If she was legit about any of that she would do something about it instead of just make remarks like that online.

Honestly, if she did kill herself, AP.net could probably be found liable for not reporting her "suicidal" comments. She's basically said that she's going to kill herself. I wonder if there's any obligation to report it to the authorities.

4N6 science
04/13/09, 01:12 PM
I'm going to say that AP.net has already covered themselves in this area and are not liable.

anamericangod
04/13/09, 01:22 PM
Hopefully that's right, but there's a lot of gray areas when it comes to that sort of thing online. No doubt it could be grounds for a lawsuit.

Bottom line is she needs to stop posting and is probably a fake account anyways.

4N6 science
04/13/09, 01:26 PM
How can they be liable. I see this similar to a situation where someone tells a friend they're suicidal and the friend says nothing. Is that person to blame for the death. I don't think AP.net can take anything said on here literally because people have the freedom to write anything they please whether it be true or false.

anamericangod
04/13/09, 01:33 PM
It is taken seriously online. Blizzard, the company who runs World of Warcraft, had a case not long ago where a user was threatening suicide and they took action. If somebody posted on AP saying suicidal stuff, and then they killed themselves and somehow the parents found out that "AP did nothing to prevent this" you can bet there is gonna be some lawyer licking his lips at this case.

I'm not saying it's fair or that AP or any other community is really to blame, but that's how lawsuits and courts work.

Also, how does your argument stack up to somebody making terroristic threats online? Still shouldn't be taken literally since we have the freedom to write or say anything we want? I can't yell FIRE in a theatre. I can't say BOMB on an airplane. People have freedom of choice but there are still societal repercussions for some actions and behaviors.

killerswells
04/13/09, 01:42 PM
what is the world coming to when AP is responsible for user suicides.

limepomegranate
04/13/09, 01:52 PM
:-( I'm sorry to hear that. I've been taking 5-htp (5-hydroxy tryptophan) for approx. 10 years in lieu of prescription antidepressants and have had great success. I take between 200-400 mg right before I go to bed each night. I notice a difference within days of taking it if I've stopped for a week or two. It's not cheap, but it is widely available at most vitamin/drug stores, like GNC or Vitamin Shoppe or online at a great site called iherb.com (where I get all my vitamins/supplements) - not big box places like Walmart, Rite Aid, or Target, they don't usually carry it.

I've also heard great things about SaM-e, which I take but not really for depression, so I don't know how it works on its own since I always take the 5-htp.

It might take a few weeks to really get in your system and it might not solve your problem. It helps your body create additional seratonin, so if that's not the reason you're depressed, it may not work properly. I would certainly say, try it for a few weeks and see how you do, if it doesn't work, maybe you should try going to a doctor. Good luck!
ok thanks i am going to a doctor and i have a recommendation but my dad doesn't believe i'm "fucked up in the head enough"

If you really couldn't take it anymore, you would check yourself in someplace and get help. You wouldn't be posting in a bullshit thread on AP.
thanks i'll get right on that because those places are expensive and there's no place that takes my insurance. oh and besides that my dad doesn't believe me. and i'm not a fake account but i don't care if you don't believe me because you're an overall dick to me anyway.

4N6 science
04/13/09, 01:55 PM
It is taken seriously online. Blizzard, the company who runs World of Warcraft, had a case not long ago where a user was threatening suicide and they took action. If somebody posted on AP saying suicidal stuff, and then they killed themselves and somehow the parents found out that "AP did nothing to prevent this" you can bet there is gonna be some lawyer licking his lips at this case.

I'm not saying it's fair or that AP or any other community is really to blame, but that's how lawsuits and courts work.

Also, how does your argument stack up to somebody making terroristic threats online? Still shouldn't be taken literally since we have the freedom to write or say anything we want? I can't yell FIRE in a theatre. I can't say BOMB on an airplane. People have freedom of choice but there are still societal repercussions for some actions and behaviors.

Good point.

killerswells
04/13/09, 01:57 PM
ok thanks i am going to a doctor and i have a recommendation but my dad doesn't believe i'm "fucked up in the head enough"


thanks i'll get right on that because those places are expensive and there's no place that takes my insurance. oh and besides that my dad doesn't believe me. and i'm not a fake account but i don't care if you don't believe me because you're an overall dick to me anyway.

im pretty sure there are free help clinics for people like you. stop looking for pity parties, and get some real help if you need it. posting on here just makes you seem starved for attention

mybreakingpoint
04/13/09, 02:26 PM
http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r225/everest9005/cheer_up.jpg

BryterJonah
04/13/09, 02:29 PM
God dammit. Why would you post that?! :-(

AlkalineAshes
04/13/09, 02:43 PM
see its funny cause its true

.invisible ink.
04/13/09, 03:46 PM
this thread went down the toilet...whatever happened to the OP? He's probably gone off and killed himself after his thread got hijacked. Good going guys!:-)

Oz Gilead
04/13/09, 07:00 PM
Still alive, thanks. I've just been busy.

4N6 science
04/13/09, 07:02 PM
I'm depressed because I have to study!

.invisible ink.
04/13/09, 07:08 PM
Still alive, thanks. I've just been busy.

that's good. staying busy helps you keep your mind off negative things.

killerswells
04/13/09, 10:40 PM
im depressed bc i have to go to work. again.

NickLopez
04/13/09, 10:44 PM
April is the cruellest month.

robat19
04/13/09, 11:45 PM
A+ thread. Glad to hear people have shittier lives than I do.

jco3
04/14/09, 12:06 AM
Honestly, don't just try to validate your existence with a girl. That's a really unhealthy thing to do. Because even that will never be as good as your imagination wants it to be. Live for yourself and just try to do things mildly productive/fun. Summer is coming up and every time you ever feel like that put on your headphones and go for a walk. Or be even more awesome blast Wham! from a boombox. When I went through this type of thing I started playing guitar and it helped a lot. I've always been a drummer but I just needed a change of pace.

This'd

jco3
04/14/09, 12:08 AM
^^ I don't think he said he smoked weed, I think he meant cigs...

but anyway you should buy a dog, buy some weed, take up a hobby or sport and play video games. Do all this while listening to muisc to hehe... basically get high, take care of your dog and chillout listen to some great ass music, play video games... hey maybe even play some online games and join a clan/team which have organised matches against other clans. Might sound nerdy, but hey fuck what people say.
Plus, dogs are mans best friends.

This might be the worst advice I've ever heard.

ArmoredSleep
04/14/09, 02:18 AM
This might be the worst advice I've ever heard.


***** please!

Weed fixes everything!

takemyhand
04/14/09, 02:35 AM
aw.
get a puppy to keep you company, take it on walks, meet some girls with your new puppy.
...could teach your puppy how to text then, by the description of what you were looking for earlier.. you're all set.

Smeee
04/14/09, 02:38 AM
aw.
get a puppy to keep you company, take it on walks, meet some girls with your new puppy.
...could teach your puppy how to text then, by the description of what you were looking for earlier.. you're all set.

Dogs can text now?! :-0

I've been out of the loop...

takemyhand
04/14/09, 02:40 AM
Dogs can text now?! :-0

I've been out of the loop...

totally

deathinkosovo
04/14/09, 02:53 AM
This thread is pullin' a double shift at the cry factory. Bah.

takemyhand
04/14/09, 03:12 AM
the op would like a wahamburger & frenchcries plz.

killerswells
04/14/09, 08:20 AM
the op would like a wahamburger & frenchcries plz.

ahh you funny gurllllll

n1asfan
04/14/09, 09:15 AM
Yeah... music passes the time while I smoke my life away.

Weed is a depressant. If you are depressed, smoking is the worst possible thing to do.

kemichels
04/14/09, 09:25 AM
came in here to just say 'lol" @ Thread title.

AlkalineAshes
04/14/09, 09:34 AM
Weed is a depressant. If you are depressed, smoking is the worst possible thing to do.

dont spread your misinformation here. THC is a mild hallucinogen not a depressant. and I get the feeling people who say things are depressants don't even know the meaning of the word. Alcohol is a central nervous system depressant, meaning it slows down breathing, it doesn't make you depressed. X-)not saying its good for you but Im gettin tired of seeing " its a depressant. its makes you depressed".

AlkalineAshes
04/14/09, 09:44 AM
excuses and pity parties are fine and well, but if you truly want things to change for the better, you need to take some responsibility for yourself and work towards getting out of this funk. Better yourself, whether that means not forgetting to take your meds or just doing some other form of self-improvement (i.e., take up a hobby, read, go running, etc.). You'll feel better about yourself and girls will be more attracted to you because you're confident and feel good about life. People can pick up on misery, it reeks. It's not easy but nothing worthwhile ever is.

this is good advice. I used to be depressed and not have any confidence and even tho I managed to finally get a hot girl, she walked all over me and left me. now Ive had a perspective change, try to better myself, and just realize my strengths and I have noticed girls take notice if you just believe in yourself.

n1asfan
04/14/09, 09:49 AM
dont spread your misinformation here. THC is a mild hallucinogen not a depressant. and I get the feeling people who say things are depressants don't even know the meaning of the word. Alcohol is a central nervous system depressant, meaning it slows down breathing, it doesn't make you depressed. X-)not saying its good for you but Im gettin tired of seeing " its a depressant. its makes you depressed".

Obviously I'm not a doctor by any means, but from my own personal experience and many people in my life who have smoke marijuana on a regular basis, it most definitely has negative effects, such as depression and anger. Ok, it may not be classified as a depressant, but even studies show that smoking while depressed is a bad idea.

http://health.usnews.com/articles/health/brain-and-behavior/2008/05/09/teen-depression-worsened-by-marijuana-government-says.html

anamericangod
04/14/09, 09:57 AM
Obviously I'm not a doctor by any means, but from my own personal experience and many people in my life who have smoke marijuana on a regular basis, it most definitely has negative effects, such as depression and anger. Ok, it may not be classified as a depressant, but even studies show that smoking while depressed is a bad idea.

http://health.usnews.com/articles/health/brain-and-behavior/2008/05/09/teen-depression-worsened-by-marijuana-government-says.html

Smart girl.

AlkalineAshes
04/14/09, 10:31 AM
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/11/071105120556.htm
This topic can be debated for awhile. It could be difficult to treat depression with marijuana because the person may engage in what is seen as antisocial behavior, such as isolating more. But if used responsibly, cannabis can jump start motivation and perspective, as im pretty sure this study shows the antidepressant properties of the MJ

John is a cult
04/14/09, 10:38 AM
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/11/071105120556.htm
This topic can be debated for awhile. It could be difficult to treat depression with marijuana because the person may engage in what is seen as antisocial behavior, such as isolating more. But if used responsibly, cannabis can jump start motivation and perspective, as im pretty sure this study shows the antidepressant properties of the MJ

That's right! most all cannabis users are SUPER motivated!
:-|

AlkalineAshes
04/14/09, 10:51 AM
That's right! most all cannabis users are SUPER motivated!
:-|

anymore munchies or cheech and chong stereotypes youd like to throw out there to help your wonderful argument?

John is a cult
04/14/09, 03:08 PM
anymore munchies or cheech and chong stereotypes youd like to throw out there to help your wonderful argument?

no. just like to point out that soothing agitated mice does not = cheering up humans.
that study is busted.

AlkalineAshes
04/14/09, 03:14 PM
just like to point out that soothing agitated mice does not = cheering up humans....
Chronic stress, anxiety and depression have been linked to atrophy or loss of hippocampal neurons. A few years ago, Hen’s colleague and co-author Ronald Duman, Ph.D., Yale University, reported that some antidepressants promote hippocampal neurogenesis. But to what effect? To begin to demonstrate a causal relationship between these newly generated cells and relief from depression, researchers would have to find a way to prevent their formation in a behaving animal.

The researchers first showed that mice become less anxious – they begin eating sooner in a novel environment – after four weeks of antidepressant treatment
( http://www.4therapy.com/consumer/conditions/article/7184/110/Important+New+Insight+Into+How+Anti depressants+Work)
cliff-notes for you... anti depressants soothed mice..and humans. just maybe the cannabis plant that has been used for thousands of years might also have some or these properties. "wow crazy dudeeeee""

BryterJonah
04/14/09, 03:20 PM
23 years old. Grow up, stoner.

killerswells
04/14/09, 03:24 PM
23 years old. Grow up, stoner.

grow up? why, bc he is educated on what pot does to humans?

anamericangod
04/14/09, 03:25 PM
just like to point out that soothing agitated mice does not = cheering up humans....
Chronic stress, anxiety and depression have been linked to atrophy or loss of hippocampal neurons. A few years ago, Hen’s colleague and co-author Ronald Duman, Ph.D., Yale University, reported that some antidepressants promote hippocampal neurogenesis. But to what effect? To begin to demonstrate a causal relationship between these newly generated cells and relief from depression, researchers would have to find a way to prevent their formation in a behaving animal.

The researchers first showed that mice become less anxious – they begin eating sooner in a novel environment – after four weeks of antidepressant treatment
( http://www.4therapy.com/consumer/conditions/article/7184/110/Important+New+Insight+Into+How+Anti depressants+Work)
cliff-notes for you... anti depressants soothed mice..and humans. just maybe the cannabis plant that has been used for thousands of years might also have some or these properties. "wow crazy dudeeeee""

Your argument is terrible. Xanax is soothing. Cigarettes are soothing. Ketamine is soothing. Just because it is a drug or chemical or plant or whatever that has some sort of soothing effect doesn't mean that it has a long lasting therapeutic, stabilizing result.

I'm not saying pot is evil, because it's not, but advocating it in a situation like this is irresponsible at best.

AlkalineAshes
04/14/09, 03:27 PM
Your argument is terrible. Xanax is soothing. Cigarettes are soothing. Ketamine is soothing. Just because it is a drug or chemical or plant or whatever that has some sort of soothing effect doesn't mean that it has a long lasting therapeutic, stabilizing result.

way to dodge my original post. low dosages, not dissociative drugs like ketamine.. nice try tho

BryterJonah
04/14/09, 03:28 PM
grow up? why, bc he is educated on what pot does to humans?
Oh yeah, I forgot how fundamental that info was.

AlkalineAshes
04/14/09, 03:29 PM
and I dont post saying everyone needs to smoke and be happy. I post when morons come on and say smoking is the worst thing you can do for all depression.. cause in some cases, probobly mild depression, it can help

11:11
04/14/09, 03:29 PM
To the OP:

It's all in your head. You won't get over it until you think you are. And if you're sitting there being a smartass, saying "Ok. I just thought it was over, and I still feel depressed", obviously you didn't truly think it was.

killerswells
04/14/09, 03:35 PM
and I dont post saying everyone needs to smoke and be happy. I post when morons come on and say smoking is the worst thing you can do for all depression.. cause in some cases, probobly mild depression, it can help

i agree. not saying pot is for everyone, but there is a reason it is prescribed as medicinal to some people.

ChrisFranz
04/14/09, 03:39 PM
Listen to BryterJonah he's right!idk how bad you feel and if I even know how you feel, but sometimes ot feels like everything is fucked up and won't get better. When my gf from the past year screwed me over with my old friend, my grades fell and I felt like I had hit rock bottom. Then I took a serious talk with my dad, forced my self to push my grades up, went to bed earlier at night, started going to the gym, got a job and got the band back together. I basically realized that you shouldn't put your life in another persons hands, a gf is great to have but it's even better to know that you can accomplish anything on your own!Hope you'll get better! Enjoy the sun dude!

BryterJonah
04/14/09, 03:41 PM
For the love of god, do not listen to me.

anamericangod
04/14/09, 03:43 PM
Fitter, happier, more productive.

Kozzy333
04/14/09, 05:25 PM
I went through a period of time last year where I felt like nobody would miss me when if I died suddenly. It depressed me but music helped me through it, especially Say Anything. It wasn't anything serious but it depressed me.

takemyhand
04/14/09, 07:06 PM
ahh you funny gurllllll

hehehehe

Mibabalou
04/15/09, 05:31 PM
:-(

Whowolf
04/15/09, 07:10 PM
I can't wait to feel New Again as well.

BryterJonah
04/15/09, 07:34 PM
I went through a period of time last year where I felt like nobody would miss me when if I died suddenly.
What's wrong with that? Just sounds like one less thing to worry about.

Kozzy333
04/15/09, 07:51 PM
What's wrong with that? Just sounds like one less thing to worry about.

I'm not sure, just seemed like other people couldn't give a shit about me. Most people don't remember me, I haven't really done anything. I don't really care anymore.

n1asfan
04/16/09, 12:29 PM
Smart girl.

Thank you :)

goodnews
04/16/09, 12:32 PM
OP is a pussy.

mattmatumbo
04/16/09, 01:11 PM
"it's time you've inhaled with a new set of lungs"

BryterJonah
04/16/09, 01:13 PM
Fish & chips, mate.

xica_sp4ever
04/17/09, 06:23 AM
So, first post here, and all, I'm hesitant to say anything that won't get thrown back at me with unnecessary cruelty. But I'll try.

At the moment, I'm not thrilled with life. It seems every time I try to make one step toward growing up and becoming a better person, I take ten steps back. I have my heart broken on quite a regular basis, and by that, I mean every time I try to date. I'm behind in school work. So, to ease the pain, I took up smoking as a form of self-flagellation. At this point, I'm willing to try anything to feel better, so, I figure, this is the lesser of many evils.

I just want to feel better about myself again, and at this rate, it looks like it won't happen.

http://www.supplierlist.com/photo_images/14243/Douche_Bottles_for_Women.jpg

This'll make you feel fresh & good as new.

mmmmmpoetry
04/17/09, 01:45 PM
What excuses do you make? Happiness is hard to find. Maybe you're dying inside. Aprils' been so lonely. It's been so long since you've felt her touch. You could care less if you deserve this. You will never survive staying inflicted.

off topic, but sick avatar. matthew gilbert is gold.