treos

[last light]

i have no idea why anybody likes this band.

[FrancesdaMute]

quality thread

[last light]

i just dont get it, they do not have an original sound, they dont do anything particularly well, bland, boring, overdone music IMO

[FrancesdaMute]

judging by the bands you like, I can see why you wouldn't like them. they take some of the elements of hardcore/harder music and infuse them with loads of melody, which may be a slap in the face to a hardcore enthusiast.

i do disagree that they don't bring anything original though. their writing style, though repeptitive, is impressive for a debut. the incorporation of electronics, though out've place at times, really shined on some tracks(dead men tell no tales, in my opinion). I also enjoyed their lyrics and vocals/harmonies. yes they're less than perfect, but i prefer that to auto-tuned shit. i really enjoy the song 'the war of all against all'.

that's all I got...hooray for you not saying they're gay or something as a legit reason for your negative opinion.

[brutusUbastard]

never heard em.

[ArTkY_]

judging by the bands you like, I can see why you wouldn't like them. they take some of the elements of hardcore/harder music and infuse them with loads of melody, which may be a slap in the face to a hardcore enthusiast.

i do disagree that they don't bring anything original though. their writing style, though repeptitive, is impressive for a debut. the incorporation of electronics, though out've place at times, really shined on some tracks(dead men tell no tales, in my opinion). I also enjoyed their lyrics and vocals/harmonies. yes they're less than perfect, but i prefer that to auto-tuned shit. i really enjoy the song 'the war of all against all'.

that's all I got...hooray for you not saying they're gay or something as a legit reason for your negative opinion.
You're right. I don't like them though, because as you said some of the stuff they infuse in their music is out of place.

[FrancesdaMute]

i really think their next cd will be incredible...they have the talent to write some incredible stuff, I just think they need to define themselves a bit more.

[walshknilb281]

i can see why some people dont like them because some parts are cluttered but that doesnt bother me, i love their lyrics and melodies. If you do not like them now however check out one of there live sets and u will gain more respect for them.

[1tarheels1]

i just dont get it, they do not have an original sound, they dont do anything particularly well, bland, boring, overdone music IMO

They are extremely creative. They do things nobody has thought to do in years, like recurring melodic themes strewn throughout the entire LP, and innovative song structures. So, I don't get your argument.

[last light]

They are extremely creative. They do things nobody has thought to do in years, like recurring melodic themes strewn throughout the entire LP, and innovative song structures. So, I don't get your argument.


haha no, no they dont do anything original at all...melodic themes throughout a cd, try half the bands that put cd's out this year including bands in the same or similar genre like boys night out, armor for sleep, cartel, coheed and cambria, dredg, i could go on a lot longer...that is a ridiculous statement.

[1tarheels1]

haha no, no they dont do anything original at all...melodic themes throughout a cd, try half the bands that put cd's out this year including bands in the same or similar genre like boys night out, armor for sleep, cartel, coheed and cambria, dredg, i could go on a lot longer...that is a ridiculous statement.

None of those bands have recurring themes that show up in multiple songs. you're a dumb ass. You obviously don't even know what a recurring melodic theme is. Go listen to your derivitive hardcore and shoot yourself.

[last light]

None of those bands have recurring themes that show up in multiple songs. you're a dumb ass. You obviously don't even know what a recurring melodic theme is. Go listen to your derivitive hardcore and shoot yourself.

hahahahaha have you lsitened to all of those releases? yes they do. derivitive hardcore? i barely listen to any hardcore bands so wrong again. you want another release that uses recurring melodic themes? listen to the buried inside album, or the secret album "luce".

[last light]

i guess i should go shoot myself because i dont like treos...god forbid i dont like another generic band.

[1tarheels1]

armor for sleep is one of my favorite bands. only ONE melody reoccurs on that album (Truth About Heaven/The End of Fraud)
cartel - NOTHING
dredg - NOTHING
Between the Heart and the Synapse displays melodies reoccuring in up to 5 songs. Listen to some classical music and grow the fuck up. You have no clue what you're talking about.

[last light]

armor for sleep is one of my favorite bands. only ONE melody reoccurs on that album (Truth About Heaven/The End of Fraud)
cartel - NOTHING
dredg - NOTHING
Between the Heart and the Synapse displays melodies reoccuring in up to 5 songs. Listen to some classical music and grow the fuck up. You have no clue what you're talking about.

me grow the fuck up? hahah im pretty sure youre the one pissing yourself because i proved you wrong, listen to the cartel album again, you are extremely incorrect. listen to the themes in dredg again, you are extremely incorrect. the fact you compared anything treos does to classical music proves you ignorance. you make assinine statements about me listening to derivitive hardcore when probably 5 bands in my entire music section are hardcore bands. no comment about the other 2 bands i mentioned? too ignorant to check out those bands apparently? ohhhh heres another one from this year, gatsbys american dream.

[1tarheels1]

dude, just b/c TREOS doesn't sound like Bach doesn't mean the don't borrow from him in theory. Melodic reaccurance COMES from classical music. Classical Evolved spawned 70s prog like the band Yes for example. TREOS heavilly borrows from that ilk, thematically speaking. Just because something sounds like something from an earlier song doesn't mean it's a reaccurance. I'm talking about the EXACT same scale, the EXACT same arpeggio. I'm done with this argument because you have no clue what your talking about.
P.S. - I listened to Catch Without Arms this morning dude. Great album, but it doesn't bring back themes like TREOS. Nice try though.

[last light]

dude, just b/c TREOS doesn't sound like Bach doesn't mean the don't borrow from him in theory. Melodic reaccurance COMES from classical music. Classical Evolved spawned 70s prog like the band Yes for example. TREOS heavilly borrows from that ilk, thematically speaking. Just because something sounds like something from an earlier song doesn't mean it's a reaccurance. I'm talking about the EXACT same scale, the EXACT same arpeggio. I'm done with this argument because you have no clue what your talking about.
P.S. - I listened to Catch Without Arms this morning dude. Great album, but it doesn't bring back themes like TREOS. Nice try though.

youre argument is the weakest shit ive ever heard in my life. you act like because they "borrow" from classical artist, then that makes them good? or makes them produce a quality album? the dredg album is a thematic album, it follows a theme, all the songs sound similar in theme, in fact ALL of their albums follow a theme. treos does nothing original, thats what was said...can you prove they do? nope...you sure cant. your attempts at insult are even more pathetic, prove your ignorance, and further void any quality points you might have made. the fact you said no band brings back melodic themes is laughable. i named about 10 and you picked out 2 that didnt. and im still laughing at your derivitive hardcore insult, i suppose buried inside, the red chord, through the eyes of the dead, blood has been shed are hardcore bands in your mind...further proves your ignorance.

[1tarheels1]

youre argument is the weakest shit ive ever heard in my life. you act like because they "borrow" from classical artist, then that makes them good? or makes them produce a quality album? the dredg album is a thematic album, it follows a theme, all the songs sound similar in theme, in fact ALL of their albums follow a theme. treos does nothing original, thats what was said...can you prove they do? nope...you sure cant. your attempts at insult are even more pathetic, prove your ignorance, and further void any quality points you might have made. the fact you said no band brings back melodic themes is laughable. i named about 10 and you picked out 2 that didnt. and im still laughing at your derivitive hardcore insult, i suppose buried inside, the red chord, through the eyes of the dead, blood has been shed are hardcore bands in your mind...further proves your ignorance.
You're a musical neandrothal. Some how we went from specific melodic themes, to songs that "sound similar in theme"
Nice try buddy.
p.s. CWAG sucks.

[last light]

You're a musical neandrothal. Some how we went from specific melodic themes, to songs that "sound similar in theme"
Nice try buddy.
p.s. CWAG sucks.

haha ouch!!!!! cwag sucks, that hurts man fuck.


you cant even disprove any of my points, gatsby did it this year, coheed did it this year, armor for sleep did it this year, buried inside did it this year, the secret did it last year, and all youve said is "oh dredg didnt".

but according to you only TREOS has done it and it makes them original.

[last light]

They are extremely creative. They do things nobody has thought to do in years, like recurring melodic themes strewn throughout the entire LP, and innovative song structures. So, I don't get your argument.

theres your direct quote...you have been proven wrong.

[1tarheels1]

what's that? oh, it's the sound of your blood pressure rising. you might need to take a walk or something.

[last light]

what's that? oh, it's the sound of your blood pressure rising. you might need to take a walk or something.

haha me? youre the one that jumped out with the insults when you were proven wrong.

[1tarheels1]

prove me wrong? you'll need another 9,000 posts to do that buddy. have a nice day.

[last light]

i needed 1.

[last light]

armor for sleep is one of my favorite bands. only ONE melody reoccurs on that album (Truth About Heaven/The End of Fraud)
cartel - NOTHING
dredg - NOTHING
Between the Heart and the Synapse displays melodies reoccuring in up to 5 songs. Listen to some classical music and grow the fuck up. You have no clue what you're talking about.

you said it yourself.

[1tarheels1]

Good gosh, you don't quit. How about we give this one a rest, and your bi ass can try to argue about some lame shit another time.

[last light]

Good gosh, you don't quit. How about we give this one a rest, and your bi ass can try to argue about some lame shit another time.

haha i love when someone is wrong how they back off.

[1tarheels1]

I'm not wrong, I just have a fucking life. I'm sick of having to educate your fat ass. But since you obiviously have nothing to do with your life, go listen to Lindsay Lohan's new album so you can tell me tomorrow that it too has reoccuring melodic themes. I wouldn't put it past your ignorant ass.

[last light]

I'm not wrong, I just have a fucking life. I'm sick of having to educate your fat ass. But since you obiviously have nothing to do with your life, go listen to Lindsay Lohan's new album so you can tell me tomorrow that it too has reoccuring melodic themes. I wouldn't put it past your ignorant ass.

haha another zinger...where do you come up with this stuff?

[mogwaifearsatan]

I can understand why some people wouldn't like them, so I won't bother defending them. Opinions are opinions. They aren't terribly groundbreaking. But something about them just hits that special spot and keeps me addicted. Awesome lyrics, catchy songs, and at times downright epic (Epilogue, the end of This Armistice). Something about them just has me friggin' hooked. Plus it definitely helps that they are one of the tightest sounding live acts I've ever heard.

and Tarheels, the man has a point about a lot of stuff. Just let him listen to whatever he wants. You aren't going to change his mind. People are allowed to have their own opinions, and you are just embarassing yourself at this point.

[last light]

I can understand why some people wouldn't like them, so I won't bother defending them. Opinions are opinions. They aren't terribly groundbreaking. But something about them just hits that special spot and keeps me addicted. Awesome lyrics, catchy songs, and at times downright epic (Epilogue, the end of This Armistice). Something about them just has me friggin' hooked. Plus it definitely helps that they are one of the tightest sounding live acts I've ever heard.

and Tarheels, the man has a point about a lot of stuff. Just let him listen to whatever he wants. You aren't going to change his mind. People are allowed to have their own opinions, and you are just embarassing yourself at this point.

see there is a good explanation as to why someone likes them...tarheels should take a note

[FrancesdaMute]

to back tarheels, treos does follow alot've baroque musical trends. but so do other artists.

I don't think treos is derivative bullshit, nor do I think they the next leap in modern rock. I like listening to them, some people don't. What the fuck else is new?

[a speedo model]

i enjoy them, their lyrics are very good. but i understand how someone could not like them. it's all in opinion.

[yutsmcgee]

I've gotta side with tarheels on this one. His argument makes a bit more sense to me. It's good to see somebody who can appreciate the more subtle, technical elements of modern music. Plus, I've seen TREOS live and they absolutely kick ass.

[btbam > you]

wow. i missed another good one. tarheels got pwnt.

[XKing'sX]

Damn, that was a fuckin brawl. Ima pick tarheels though. last light didn't really say much. and those examples he gave were kinda bogus compared to TREOS.

[last light]

Damn, that was a fuckin brawl. Ima pick tarheels though. last light didn't really say much. and those examples he gave were kinda bogus compared to TREOS.

how are they bogus? he said no bands in years have brought melodic themes back throughout a cd...every one i named had, he even admitted one.

[XKing'sX]

I think you had a different take on what the whole "melodic reoccurance" thing was. Your examples were good displays of your take on that idea, but they don't fall into the category of what he was talking about in the first place. But you both had good points.

[last light]

I think you had a different take on what the whole "melodic reoccurance" thing was. Your examples were good displays of your take on that idea, but they don't fall into the category of what he was talking about in the first place. But you both had good points.

listen to buried inside-chronoclast and tell me thats not melodic reoccurance, that cd pretty much defines it. my whole problem with him was that he SAID armor for sleep did it, and then continued to argue that he was right. thats all.

[XKing'sX]

They do things nobody has thought to do in years, like recurring melodic themes strewn throughout the entire LP
that's what he said originally. Then, when you said that Armor did this, he replied with the following...

"armor for sleep is one of my favorite bands. only ONE melody reoccurs on that album (Truth About Heaven/The End of Fraud)"

He wasn't admitting that you were right. He was saying that your example (Armor) didn't do what he had originally said TREOS did ("recurring melodic themes strewn throughout the entire LP" - entire being the key word)

Like i said, it was close, but i think you came up a bit short dude.

[last light]

haha oh well, i gave him tons of examples that he couldnt even comment on, buried inside has done it this year, coheed has done it this year, regardless of if its throughout an entire album...it is done, treos isnt original for making a concept record.

[XKing'sX]

it is done. BUT concept record is a completely different thing. But lets not start something over that.

[last light]

i just dont understand this argument, listen to buried insides album chronoclast and then tell me it hasnt been done in years, that record came out this year.

[Caleb Cattivera]

TREOS will be one of the biggest bands in 2006. their album was my favorite album this year hands down. maybe they're not too original. but they're lyrics are fucking brilliant and their songs are epic. each one builds up into an amazing ending. you may not like em, and that's your opinion, but i think they're a great band. and as for originality alot of the bands in your profile arent original, if thats what your looking for. it's all chug chug chug stuff, well not all but alot...not being a dick, just syaing.

[last light]

TREOS will be one of the biggest bands in 2006. their album was my favorite album this year hands down. maybe they're not too original. but they're lyrics are fucking brilliant and their songs are epic. each one builds up into an amazing ending. you may not like em, and that's your opinion, but i think they're a great band. and as for originality alot of the bands in your profile arent original, if thats what your looking for. it's all chug chug chug stuff, well not all but alot...not being a dick, just syaing.
its fine you liek them, that last statement is extremely false, you clearly havent listened to very many of those bands.

edit: you said most, i still would disagree

[xgloryxfadesx27]

I think last light provides a compelling argument, and I can now see why some people wouldn't like them. But IMO, BTHATS was one of the best releases this year. I thought the lyrics were very intelligent, and the way they incorporated electronics into the songs was really cool. I also liked the recurring parts in different songs, like certain lyrics ("her fingers like spiders...", "oh how i've been teething..." etc) and guitar parts. As for their originality...while they may not be the most groundbreaking band of '05, seeing as how they're coming from an area where almost every band is a chug chug, drop-c, lets-fuck-shit-up band...I think they've got a lot of originality. I like them.

[last light]

ya, i mean im gglad people enjoy them, this was meant for me to find out why...i just found tarheels argument very flawed, thats all.

[WakingTheMisery]

if you are gonna have three guitarists, try not to have them play the same shit.

[apoemtothedead]

catchy as hell

[xgloryxfadesx27]

catchy as hell
Haunted and Haunting...We are followed...Like shadows...Plagued by what we know

[walshknilb281]

if you are gonna have three guitarists, try not to have them play the same shit.


they dont play the same shit at all. Listen closely

[WakingTheMisery]

they dont play the same shit at all. Listen closely
they don't seem to be taking advantage to all the talent i hear they have though.

[Scott Weber]

None of those bands have recurring themes that show up in multiple songs. you're a dumb ass. You obviously don't even know what a recurring melodic theme is. Go listen to your derivitive hardcore and shoot yourself.
haha, you idiot, Gatsbys American Dream did it in Volcano, and not only did they do it from song to song on that CD, they also brought back musical themes from PREVIOUS ALBUMS.

[btbam > you]

haha, you idiot, Gatsbys American Dream did it in Volcano, and not only did they do it from song to song on that CD, they also brought back musical themes from PREVIOUS ALBUMS.



pwnt

[Stereo Mike]

I can see why people wouldn't like it, but i think it's a great CD.
Loved the EP too.

[ChokingOnADream]

They are very generic.

[KarolaBloch]

i think treos is incredible live. like amazing.

[ActorInThisPlay]

i just dont get it, they do not have an original sound, they dont do anything particularly well, bland, boring, overdone music IMO
wtf...i love TREOS.