The Microphones/ Mount Eerie (Official Thread)

[oddwithoutend]

Phil Elverum is an amazing lo-fi folk songwriter. The Glow Pt2 is incredible. Mount Eerie's Wind's Poem is set to be released sometime this year. I don't see enough discussion about this guy on this site. Hopefully this sparks a few replies.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Microphones

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Eerie

http://www.myspace.com/elverumandsun

[oddwithoutend]

Haha, well this is disappointing. A lot of people are missing out. Click on his myspace link, and listen to The Moon. See what you think.

[Stephen Chamberlain]

The Glow Pt. 2 is great. He just has so many records, it's hard to keep up.

[oddwithoutend]

Yeah, he's got a lot of material. I really think a lot of it's worth it. If you haven't listened to It Was Hot, We Stayed in the Water, that's a good one to check out. And I have a really good feeling about Wind's Poem to be honest.

[Stephen Chamberlain]

I would have liked to get that special edition book thing he had. Full of his photography.

[oddwithoutend]

Yeah I didn't get ahold of that either. Got a favourite track off The Glow Pt 2?

[joss d.]

the moon.
this man does not get enough love.
one of my favorite artists.

[oddwithoutend]

Great to see some appreciation.

My favorite off The Glow Pt 2 is probably I Want Wind to Blow. The Moon is fantastic though.

[oddwithoutend]

Listening to Mount Eerie's Dawn a lot lately. Probably the best album released in 2008.

[JimGray]

<3 This man.

[oddwithoutend]

<3 This man.

Good man.

[JimGray]

Good man.

I try my best =]

[oddwithoutend]

I try my best =]

I respect anyone that appreciates and enjoys Phil Elverum. I can relate to him so well, but he always seems to be one step ahead of me. Just when I feel like I have his art completely figured out, I discover some hidden gem in one of his songs. It's incredible. He's the deepest lyricist out there. Have you got a favourite song/album?

[JimGray]

I respect anyone that appreciates and enjoys Phil Elverum. I can relate to him so well, but he always seems to be one step ahead of me. Just when I feel like I have his art completely figured out, I discover some hidden gem in one of his songs. It's incredible. He's the deepest lyricist out there. Have you got a favourite song/album?

tbh, I've never heard anything i didn't like, or when i did, i quickly realized that i was being an idiot and it was amazing. i hate to be THAT GUY, but i really like all of his shit. my friend jesse (http://www.myspace.com/jessemeuniermusic) did a cover of his a while back. i doubt its still on the myspace, but you might be able to ask him for it, it was beautiful.

[Snork]

the only thing i've heard about wind's poem is that it features heavy use of a delay pedal

fucking sign me up, man

[oddwithoutend]

That's all I know, too. Or at least the live performances of the songs that are supposed to featured on Wind's Poem were heavy on the delay pedal. Also, Elverum referred to the album as "colossal sounding".

[Snork]

yeah
i'm listening to the glow pt 2 for the first time in a while and it makes me want to go camping and wear mocassins
also i'm excited for wind's poem

[oddwithoutend]

Haha The Glow Pt. 2 does the same thing to me. I Want Wind to Blow, The Moon, The Mansion, You'll Be in the Air, I Want to Be Cold, etc. are all amazing.

[Snork]

agreed

it's also making me hungry for the sausage and peppers and onions that i'm making

[oddwithoutend]

Haha

Have you listened to Mount Eerie's Dawn?

[Snork]

i haven't

[oddwithoutend]

You really, really, really should. There are some incredibly good songs on that album. It's very lyrical focussed, and free of complicated instrumentation. Just him and his acoustic.

[Snork]

will do

the sausage and peppers were delicious by the way

and enhanced by My Warm Blood

[oddwithoutend]

will do

the sausage and peppers were delicious by the way

and enhanced by My Warm Blood

I'm glad The Microphones can do that for you.

[oddwithoutend]

So Wind's Poem is supposed to be released this spring. Waiting...

[oddwithoutend]

Alright. I had to do it. I Want Wind to Blow is probably my favourite album opener of all time. No music has ever spoke to me in as fluent a language as its accompanied lyrics like this song has.

The song starts off with a very calm guitar riff that just screams desperation.

The thunder clouds broke up
And the rain dried up
The lightning let up
The clacking shutter just shut up

This stanza has Elverum explaining how his life became uneventful. Every line in this verse says essentially the same thing, a nature-themed description of the calming of his life. It can be argued that he wastes a lot of words on such a simple idea, but the repetitive, tired melody is essential in displaying his current disenchanted lifestyle.

There's no black or white
No change in the light
No night, no golden sun

Here the protagonist has revealed that he has become desensitized with life. The contrast of "black" and "white" and of "night" and "golden sun" shows that he is not only lamenting the lack of happiness and joy in his life, but he also misses the sad, dark, depressing times as well. He trudges through life without really caring about anything.

The sound of cars
The smell of bars
The awful feeling of electric heat
And the flourescent lights

I particularly like this verse because of how he associates the manufactured aspects of the city life (i.e. cars, bars, electric heat, flourescent lights) with being akin to the disenchanted feelings he possesses. It is my belief that this stanza is trying to convey that the narrator finds everything in his current life to be fake, not just the "electric heat" and such, but also the people and the events that he is involved with. He seeks what is real, and he thinks that only what is organic, honest, and real could ever relieve him of his careless outlook on life. He wants real people that are true to themselves to "sweep [him] off his feet". He doesn't want "flourescent lights"; he wants the "golden sun" that he lacks.

There's sacrifice
There's hard feelings
Theres pointless waste

Also love these lines because, while at first they seem to contradict his laments of his life being free of black and white and ups and downs, a closer look at these three lines reveals something much deeper. He says that there's "sacrifice" and "hard feelings", which on its own should not be a problem to him because he misses even the hardships. The problem is that the sacrifices and hard feelings in his current life only contribute to "pointless waste". He would love to make sacrifices, he would love to have hard feelings, but only if it pertains to something meaningful to him.

I want wind to blow

He belts out this line in true desperation. He wants things to happen, he wants his emotions struck, he wants things to get to him, he wants to feel love, hate, jealousy, passion, pain, joy, etc. He currently doesn't care. This is a song about becoming desensitized with your life, and this is the most encompassing line in the song. It is also worth mentioning that he what he wants is something natural (wind). He maintains the metaphor that nature is real, passionate, etc. and the city is dull, fake, disenchanted. He wants wind just like he wants the night and the golden sun.

My clothes off me
Sweep me off my feet
Take me up, don't bring me back
Oh, where I can see
Days pass by me
I have no head to hold in grief

The first line here once again reverts back to how he wants all that is manufactured to be gone. "Clothes are not real to him, they are fake, produced, dull neccessities in his current life. I can't stress the point enough that he associates nature with strong, real emotions that truly matter to him. This verse is pretty straightforward until the last three lines. Is he wishing that he had someone's head to hold in grief, or is he explaining that he currently hold his own head in grief? I think both are possible given that he would love to even be truly sad over important things than be in his present desensitized state, but on the other hand, he may be holding his own head in grief because of how he is disenchanted.Is he grieving because he doesn't feel strong emotions like grief anymore? It's a paradox, but a very possible one for people to experience.

But there's no hope for me
I've been set free
There's no breeze
No ship on my sea

Pretty straightforward closing verse. He doesn't feel like it's possible to recover from his current depressed state. He's been "set free" of his once-passionate outlook on life. There's no "breeze" (wind). No ship on his calm, motionless sea of his lackluster life.

The song ends with a repetitive guitar riff that illustrates the tired life he has. And then, just when it starts to quiet down, when you think the song is going to end, it bursts with huge emotion, the same riff but belted out hard accompanied by percussion. This loud burst reiterates how strongly, truly emotional you can get (the high dynamics, percussion) about nothing ever changing in your dull, passionless life (the by-now very repetitive riff). It reverts to the same paradox used earlier, and this is where the narrator truly experiences grief over his disenchanted life.

I Want Wind to Blow could very well be my favourite song of all time. If not, it's definitely the perfect opener for The Glow Pt 2, an album about feeling insignificant in your life, and looking back nostalgically at how passionate you used to be. If you haven;'t heard this album/song, you should definitely get to doing that. If you are familiar with it, what are your interpretations?

[IWasaCamera]

The song starts off with a very calm guitar riff that just screams desperation.
Never gotten that impression, always seemed more complacent than desperate. We're off to a nice start ha.
The thunder clouds broke up
And the rain dried up
The lightning let up
The clacking shutter just shut up

This stanza has Elverum explaining how his life became uneventful. Every line in this verse says essentially the same thing, a nature-themed description of the calming of his life. It can be argued that he wastes a lot of words on such a simple idea, but the repetitive, tired melody is essential in displaying his current disenchanted lifestyle.
The word choices seem to indicate that unpleasantness has subsided rather than monotony reigning supreme. "Thunder clouds", "lightning", and "clacking" do not typically bear positive connotations so them breaking up, letting up, and shutting up seem to be welcome respites. However, later portions of the song shed light on what is meant here and corroborate your perspective. Better to have thunder, rain, lightning, and clacking shutter than nothing at all.
There's no black or white
No change in the light
No night, no golden sun

Here the protagonist has revealed that he has become desensitized with life. The contrast of "black" and "white" and of "night" and "golden sun" shows that he is not only lamenting the lack of happiness and joy in his life, but he also misses the sad, dark, depressing times as well. He trudges through life without really caring about anything.
Now this is clearly indicative of disenchantment. As opposed to the previous lines which only seem to exclude terms with negative associations, here the narrator outright states there is nothing on the other side of the scale either.
The sound of cars
The smell of bars
The awful feeling of electric heat
And the flourescent lights

I particularly like this verse because of how he associates the manufactured aspects of the city life (i.e. cars, bars, electric heat, flourescent lights) with being akin to the disenchanted feelings he possesses. It is my belief that this stanza is trying to convey that the narrator finds everything in his current life to be fake, not just the "electric heat" and such, but also the people and the events that he is involved with. He seeks what is real, and he thinks that only what is organic, honest, and real could ever relieve him of his careless outlook on life. He wants real people that are true to themselves to "sweep [him] off his feet". He doesn't want "flourescent lights"; he wants the "golden sun" that he lacks.
There's sacrifice
There's hard feelings
Theres pointless waste

Also love these lines because, while at first they seem to contradict his laments of his life being free of black and white and ups and downs, a closer look at these three lines reveals something much deeper. He says that there's "sacrifice" and "hard feelings", which on its own should not be a problem to him because he misses even the hardships. The problem is that the sacrifices and hard feelings in his current life only contribute to "pointless waste". He would love to make sacrifices, he would love to have hard feelings, but only if it pertains to something meaningful to him.
Completely agree with this.
I want wind to blow

He belts out this line in true desperation. He wants things to happen, he wants his emotions struck, he wants things to get to him, he wants to feel love, hate, jealousy, passion, pain, joy, etc. He currently doesn't care. This is a song about becoming desensitized with your life, and this is the most encompassing line in the song. It is also worth mentioning that he what he wants is something natural (wind). He maintains the metaphor that nature is real, passionate, etc. and the city is dull, fake, disenchanted. He wants wind just like he wants the night and the golden sun.
Hmm, I'm not sure when it is you hear the belting. The delivery seems rather halfhearted to me, which is what makes him so poignant. He's been beaten down so badly by cars, bars, electric heat, and fluorescent lights that he can't bring himself to voice this sentiment in a grandiose manner. I second your notion that the mention of wind bolsters this idea that he pines for the natural. Obviously, by wishing for wind, he wishes for movement, for an occurrence. This reinforces the banality he asserted in the second set of lines.
My clothes off me
Sweep me off my feet
Take me up, don't bring me back
Oh, where I can see
Days pass by me
I have no head to hold in grief

The first line here once again reverts back to how he wants all that is manufactured to be gone. "Clothes are not real to him, they are fake, produced, dull neccessities in his current life. I can't stress the point enough that he associates nature with strong, real emotions that truly matter to him. This verse is pretty straightforward until the last three lines. Is he wishing that he had someone's head to hold in grief, or is he explaining that he currently hold his own head in grief? I think both are possible given that he would love to even be truly sad over important things than be in his present desensitized state, but on the other hand, he may be holding his own head in grief because of how he is disenchanted.Is he grieving because he doesn't feel strong emotions like grief anymore? It's a paradox, but a very possible one for people to experience.
A mental utopia here. Free from his shackles, he wanders around naked free to be swept off his feet (the word "sweep" in itself is rather powerful and often describes how one would feel about a fervent passion of theirs). For a brief moment, he flees only to return to reality, asking not to be brought "back". The "no head for grief" seems to be an extension of his dream world to me, one where his life would be so ideal he would no longer have the desire or ability to lament his predicament...
But there's no hope for me
I've been set free
There's no breeze
No ship on my sea

Pretty straightforward closing verse. He doesn't feel like it's possible to recover from his current depressed state. He's been "set free" of his once-passionate outlook on life. There's no "breeze" (wind). No ship on his calm, motionless sea of his lackluster life.
...hence the "but" standing as a contradiction to the delightful scene played out in his mind. There is hope for him and as you claim, no breeze, no ship, nothing.
The song ends with a repetitive guitar riff that illustrates the tired life he has. And then, just when it starts to quiet down, when you think the song is going to end, it bursts with huge emotion, the same riff but belted out hard accompanied by percussion. This loud burst reiterates how strongly, truly emotional you can get (the high dynamics, percussion) about nothing ever changing in your dull, passionless life (the by-now very repetitive riff). It reverts to the same paradox used earlier, and this is where the narrator truly experiences grief over his disenchanted life.

I Want Wind to Blow could very well be my favourite song of all time. If not, it's definitely the perfect opener for The Glow Pt 2, an album about feeling insignificant in your life, and looking back nostalgically at how passionate you used to be. If you haven;'t heard this album/song, you should definitely get to doing that. If you are familiar with it, what are your interpretations?
The raucous outro to me represents feeling overwhelmed by the cars, bars, and manufactured existence. That's why his vocal delivery is so delicate, it's lost in a sea of nothingness and cannot rise to the surface. He's so battered he can barely muster the energy to deplore the situation. He has no head, he has no mouth.

Probably my favorite song on The Glow Pt. 2 and a solid portrayal of a man at his wits' end regarding the evident lack of purpose and meaning in his life.

[chipdip18]

I'll be honest, i haven't listened to The Microphones, and i just downloaded the Glow Part 2. I'll give my thoughts on it later.

[oddwithoutend]

Never gotten that impression, always seemed more complacent than desperate. We're off to a nice start ha.

The word choices seem to indicate that unpleasantness has subsided rather than monotony reigning supreme. "Thunder clouds", "lightning", and "clacking" do not typically bear positive connotations so them breaking up, letting up, and shutting up seem to be welcome respites. However, later portions of the song shed light on what is meant here and corroborate your perspective. Better to have thunder, rain, lightning, and clacking shutter than nothing at all.

Now this is clearly indicative of disenchantment. As opposed to the previous lines which only seem to exclude terms with negative associations, here the narrator outright states there is nothing on the other side of the scale either.


Completely agree with this.

Hmm, I'm not sure when it is you hear the belting. The delivery seems rather halfhearted to me, which is what makes him so poignant. He's been beaten down so badly by cars, bars, electric heat, and fluorescent lights that he can't bring himself to voice this sentiment in a grandiose manner. I second your notion that the mention of wind bolsters this idea that he pines for the natural. Obviously, by wishing for wind, he wishes for movement, for an occurrence. This reinforces the banality he asserted in the second set of lines.

A mental utopia here. Free from his shackles, he wanders around naked free to be swept off his feet (the word "sweep" in itself is rather powerful and often describes how one would feel about a fervent passion of theirs). For a brief moment, he flees only to return to reality, asking not to be brought "back". The "no head for grief" seems to be an extension of his dream world to me, one where his life would be so ideal he would no longer have the desire or ability to lament his predicament...

...hence the "but" standing as a contradiction to the delightful scene played out in his mind. There is hope for him and as you claim, no breeze, no ship, nothing.

The raucous outro to me represents feeling overwhelmed by the cars, bars, and manufactured existence. That's why his vocal delivery is so delicate, it's lost in a sea of nothingness and cannot rise to the surface. He's so battered he can barely muster the energy to deplore the situation. He has no head, he has no mouth.

Probably my favorite song on The Glow Pt. 2 and a solid portrayal of a man at his wits' end regarding the evident lack of purpose and meaning in his life.

Here's the deal, man. You tell me how to break up a post into smaller sections (like you just did with mine), and then I'll reply to this. haha

[Rawrr]

I wasn't all into Mount Eeries newest.

[oddwithoutend]

I'll be honest, i haven't listened to The Microphones, and i just downloaded the Glow Part 2. I'll give my thoughts on it later.

Awesome, man. It's always great to see The Microphones get some attention. I don't understand why theyre not better known than what they are, as I find Elverum to be one the best lo-fi folk artists currently making music. Of course, Vinh could probably enlighten me on the reasons for the lack of appreciation for Elverum, given that he doesn't seem to enjoy his music nearly as much as I do. haha

[oddwithoutend]

I wasn't all into Mount Eeries newest.
Would that be Dawn? I would admit that there is a lack of variety that takes away from it, but I think there are some very thoughtful, inspired acoustic songs on there.

[Rawrr]

White Stag, was that just an ep though?

[oddwithoutend]

Haha Elverum is way too hard to keep track of. I haven't heard White Stag yet. Is it an EP? Who knows. Elverum probably doesn't even know. haha

[chipdip18]

Awesome, man. It's always great to see The Microphones get some attention. I don't understand why theyre not better known than what they are, as I find Elverum to be one the best lo-fi folk artists currently making music. Of course, Vinh could probably enlighten me on the reasons for the lack of appreciation for Elverum, given that he doesn't seem to enjoy his music nearly as much as I do. haha


Well to be honest... I'm right there with you. It's got all the elements that people want in lo-fi folk haha. And it's just pretty solid in general, the album is long, but i'm enjoying what i've heard so far.

[oddwithoutend]

Well to be honest... I'm right there with you. It's got all the elements that people want in lo-fi folk haha. And it's just pretty solid in general, the album is long, but i'm enjoying what i've heard so far.

Haha exactly. Glad to hear you're enjoying it, man.

[chipdip18]

Haha exactly. Glad to hear you're enjoying it, man.

Yeah, it's right down my alley, great stuff indeed. Now what you reccommend from Mount Eerie?

[oddwithoutend]

Yeah, it's right down my alley, great stuff indeed. Now what you reccommend from Mount Eerie?

Awesome. I would suggest you delve into The Microphones' It Was Hot, We Stayed in the Water, and Mount Eerie (the album, not the band, it gets confusing) before you listen to Mount Eerie (the band). The Microphones' material is definitely superior.

[chipdip18]

Awesome. I would suggest you delve into The Microphones' It Was Hot, We Stayed in the Water, and Mount Eerie (the album, not the band, it gets confusing) before you listen to Mount Eerie (the band). The Microphones' material is definitely superior.

Haha well The Glow Pt. 2 will keep me occupied for a while. It's an enormous album. I'll keep those other albums in mind for sure though.

[oddwithoutend]

Haha well The Glow Pt. 2 will keep me occupied for a while. It's an enormous album. I'll keep those other albums in mind for sure though.

Haha The Glow Pt. 2 will always keep me occupied. I Want Wind to Blow and The Moon are among my favourite songs of all time.

[IWasaCamera]

Here's the deal, man. You tell me how to break up a post into smaller sections (like you just did with mine), and then I'll reply to this. haha
I actually don't know how to properly and just manually break the massive posts up by copying/pasting excerpts in between the junk.
[quote=oddwithoutend;44077442]Awesome, man. It's always great to see The Microphones get some attention. I don't understand why theyre not better known than what they are, as I find Elverum to be one the best lo-fi folk artists currently making music. Of course, Vinh could probably enlighten me on the reasons for the lack of appreciation for Elverum, given that he doesn't seem to enjoy his music nearly as much as I do. haha
The lack of appreciation for Elvrum is only here frankly (which is to be expected). In "indie" circles, he has a rather large following and The Glow Pt. 2 is frequently cited as a favorite album. It's a similar predicament to that of Songs: Ohia and Jason Molina in that respect.

[chipdip18]

The lack of appreciation for Elvrum is only here frankly (which is to be expected). In "indie" circles, he has a rather large following and The Glow Pt. 2 is frequently cited as a favorite album. It's a similar predicament to that of Songs: Ohia and Jason Molina in that respect.

Where are these indie circles? Haha Maybe i've been talking on AP.net too long.

[IWasaCamera]

Blogs, music publications, and simply friends into that type of music in general.

[chipdip18]

I'll have to keep my eyes open.


By the way, got seven questions for Nebraska up, would you mind reading through them?

[oddwithoutend]

Never gotten that impression, always seemed more complacent than desperate. We're off to a nice start ha.

haha Yeah, I get a sense of desperation or a longing for an escape from routine. Probably overanalyzing a simple riff, but those kind of feelings I get from the music really show why I hold this album in such high regard. Like I said earlier, I don't think music has ever conveyed meaning as precisely as it does on this record.

The word choices seem to indicate that unpleasantness has subsided rather than monotony reigning supreme. "Thunder clouds", "lightning", and "clacking" do not typically bear positive connotations so them breaking up, letting up, and shutting up seem to be welcome respites. However, later portions of the song shed light on what is meant here and corroborate your perspective. Better to have thunder, rain, lightning, and clacking shutter than nothing at all.

I agree that the harsh words bear negative connotation, but I think the way he sings the words makes me feel that he didn't want the "thunder" and "lightning" to leave him.

Now this is clearly indicative of disenchantment. As opposed to the previous lines which only seem to exclude terms with negative associations, here the narrator outright states there is nothing on the other side of the scale either.

You probably feel like I'm forshadowing meaning into lyrics before it is actually possible to make the connections, and while that may be true, I like to believe that I can hear where this song is going before the words actually give it away later on. I probably just like the song too much though. haha

Completely agree with this.

Ha I'm savoring this one.

Hmm, I'm not sure when it is you hear the belting. The delivery seems rather halfhearted to me, which is what makes him so poignant. He's been beaten down so badly by cars, bars, electric heat, and fluorescent lights that he can't bring himself to voice this sentiment in a grandiose manner. I second your notion that the mention of wind bolsters this idea that he pines for the natural. Obviously, by wishing for wind, he wishes for movement, for an occurrence. This reinforces the banality he asserted in the second set of lines.

My mistake. I shouldn't have called it "belting". I agree with your explanation.

A mental utopia here. Free from his shackles, he wanders around naked free to be swept off his feet (the word "sweep" in itself is rather powerful and often describes how one would feel about a fervent passion of theirs). For a brief moment, he flees only to return to reality, asking not to be brought "back". The "no head for grief" seems to be an extension of his dream world to me, one where his life would be so ideal he would no longer have the desire or ability to lament his predicament...

...hence the "but" standing as a contradiction to the delightful scene played out in his mind. There is hope for him and as you claim, no breeze, no ship, nothing.

Haha the all-important "but". You're probably right because it makes sense for him to dream of a place where "[he] can see the days pass by [him]", as the passing of days is probably a reference to the (natural) motion of the sun and nighttime.

The raucous outro to me represents feeling overwhelmed by the cars, bars, and manufactured existence. That's why his vocal delivery is so delicate, it's lost in a sea of nothingness and cannot rise to the surface. He's so battered he can barely muster the energy to deplore the situation. He has no head, he has no mouth.

Yes. I like this, too.

Probably my favorite song on The Glow Pt. 2 and a solid portrayal of a man at his wits' end regarding the evident lack of purpose and meaning in his life.

Good man.

[oddwithoutend]

I actually don't know how to properly and just manually break the massive posts up by copying/pasting excerpts in between the junk.

Haha well I guess I still don't know how you go about doing it, seeing as I did it the other way just now. Thanks for accidently explaining to me the way that you don't know how to do it though. Haha

The lack of appreciation for Elvrum is only here frankly (which is to be expected). In "indie" circles, he has a rather large following and The Glow Pt. 2 is frequently cited as a favorite album. It's a similar predicament to that of Songs: Ohia and Jason Molina in that respect.

Yeah, that makes sense. Most of my friends do not enjoy him and it frustrates me, as they do listen to a lot of good music.

[IWasaCamera]

haha Yeah, I get a sense of desperation or a longing for an escape from routine. Probably overanalyzing a simple riff, but those kind of feelings I get from the music really show why I hold this album in such high regard. Like I said earlier, I don't think music has ever conveyed meaning as precisely as it does on this record.
It's not an overanalysis. I've long been of the position that great music can convey thoughts/emotions/etc. that words cannot accurately capture and this is one of those instances for you. I won't question what you hear, I have no right to strip your personal interpretation of validity. However, I will say that I'm far more inclined to agree with the narrator "longing for an escape from routine" than him evincing any "sense of desperation".
You probably feel like I'm forshadowing meaning into lyrics before it is actually possible to make the connections, and while that may be true, I like to believe that I can hear where this song is going before the words actually give it away later on. I probably just like the song too much though. haha
One of the wonderful advantages of stellar lyrics is the ability to retrace your steps, to uncover pearls now that weren't as evident then. When Elvrum sings the second set of lines, it entirely redefines his frame of mind in the song and the first set takes on new meaning. Happens me to quite often when I'm trying to break lyrics down. "Ohhhh" moments galore.
Haha well I guess I still don't know how you go about doing it, seeing as I did it the other way just now. Thanks for accidently explaining to me the way that you don't know how to do it though. Haha
By all means, let me know how to. Doing so manually is a flaming bitch.
Yeah, that makes sense. Most of my friends do not enjoy him and it frustrates me, as they do listen to a lot of good music.
Are they into lo-fi/freak-folk/whatever junk? Seems like he'd be right up their alley if so.

[oddwithoutend]

It's not an overanalysis. I've long been of the position that great music can convey thoughts/emotions/etc. that words cannot accurately capture and this is one of those instances for you. I won't question what you hear, I have no right to strip your personal interpretation of validity. However, I will say that I'm far more inclined to agree with the narrator "longing for an escape from routine" than him evincing any "sense of desperation". [ /quote]

[ quote]One of the wonderful advantages of stellar lyrics is the ability to retrace your steps, to uncover pearls now that weren't as evident then. When Elvrum sings the second set of lines, it entirely redefines his frame of mind in the song and the first set takes on new meaning. Happens me to quite often when I'm trying to break lyrics down. "Ohhhh" moments galore.[ /quote]

[ quote]By all means, let me know how to. Doing so manually is a flaming bitch.[ /quote]

[ quote]Are they into lo-fi/freak-folk/whatever junk? Seems like he'd be right up their alley if so.



I strongly agree with the bolded. The english language (and obviously, every other language) has limitations that music does not.

I like your "redefining" perspective because it is great for explaining why a song becomes more important to you after several listens.

haha So that's how you do it, except without the spaces between the brackets of course.

Yeah, they basically all like Devendra Banhart, Animal Collective, and Battles (not that those are all like The Microphones, but it gives you an idea), so it really doesnt make much sense to me that they don't enjoy Elverum.

[IWasaCamera]

Thanks, I had no idea it was so simple ha.

That's odd. Bet they were all over the Bon Iver hype too.

[oddwithoutend]

Thanks, I had no idea it was so simple ha.

That's odd. Bet they were all over the Bon Iver hype too.

haha Damn right they were.

[IWasaCamera]

Figures ha.

[oddwithoutend]

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_xy7CgDqUOSc/SjZpBotsx7I/AAAAAAAAB-w/fUphuJTlQ8I/s1600-h/351.jpg

Cover art for the album of the year.

[oddwithoutend]

According to Elverum, Wind's Poem will have "A hundred kinds of distortion, oceans of synth, and clouds of bass [as] the elements these twelve songs are built from, with moments of clarity occasionally revealing soft harmonies... reverently attempting to describe a dark mystery." I couldn't be any more excited for this. It's set to be released August 18.

[oddwithoutend]

Let's talk about how excited we are.

[Stephen Chamberlain]

I made a thread for it in general a little while ago, very excited.

http://absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=1115112&highlight=mount+eerie

[oddwithoutend]

Oh, you seem to get a little more replies in the general thread. Good to see that people are looking forward to it.

[Stephen Chamberlain]

I never post in the music forum about music as weird as that sounds. Most of the people in here like terrible music. I mean, there's an official Paramore thread...need I say more?

[oddwithoutend]

haha True enough. I should venture into General more often.

[chipdip18]

I need to listen to the Glow Pt. 2 more.

[oddwithoutend]

I need to listen to the Glow Pt. 2 more.

For sure. I just finished listening to it a bit ago haha.

[chipdip18]

I was actually just listening to it since i saw this thread bumped. I got to go though so i turned it off.

[TakeLotsWithAlcohol]

The Glow pt. 2 is such an amazing fucking album.

[oddwithoutend]

The Glow pt. 2 is such an amazing fucking album.

One of the best. Have you listened to It Was Hot, We Stayed in the Water?

[TakeLotsWithAlcohol]

One of the best. Have you listened to It Was Hot, We Stayed in the Water?



The Glow pt. 2 is the only thing I've heard, sadly.

[oddwithoutend]

The Glow pt. 2 is the only thing I've heard, sadly.

Man, definitely listen to It Was Hot... If you enjoy The Glow Pt 2 it's almost guaranteed that you will like that one.

[TakeLotsWithAlcohol]

Man, definitely listen to It Was Hot... If you enjoy The Glow Pt 2 it's almost guaranteed that you will like that one.



I've heard more of the Mount Erie stuff than Microphones, I'll defnintely get It Was Hot... though.

[Stephen Chamberlain]

New track and interview:

http://stereogum.com/the-gum-drop/song.php?tid=75482

http://stereogum.com//archives/mp3/the-gum-drop-xciv-hear-new-mount-eerie-win-moscot_075762.html#comments

[chipdip18]

I gotta get that other album oddwithoutend just rec'd too.

[oddwithoutend]

New track and interview:

http://stereogum.com/the-gum-drop/song.php?tid=75482

http://stereogum.com//archives/mp3/the-gum-drop-xciv-hear-new-mount-eerie-win-moscot_075762.html#comments

Awesome. Thanks, man.

I gotta get that other album oddwithoutend just rec'd too.

So I take it you're enjoying The Glow Pt. 2? Then yeah, I would say go to It was Hot, We Stayed in the Water next. While The Glow Pt. 2 is a stronger, more mature album, It was Hot... has some very strong points that are essential to anyone that enjoys The Glow Pt. 2. Of course, then he went on to make Mount Eerie, a much more experimental, genre-defying album than his previous two. It's pretty great also; some would argue its his best.

[Stephen Chamberlain]

:woot: Two more tracks.

http://www.imposemagazine.com/mount-eeries-latest-steals-sound-of-wind-twin-peaks-theme/20260/

[Stephen Chamberlain]

1,000 posts about All Time Low's new bullshit, and not one about these sweet tracks--one of which is like Sunn O))) with Phil's vocals and the other samples Twin Peaks.:-| :-0M-(

:explode:

[joss d.]

been listening to phil alot lately.
mount eerie is such an incredible concept record.
his work never ceases to amaze me.

[Stephen Chamberlain]

Love Phil. Been listening to a lot of Seam myself.

[bradnewman]

1,000 posts about All Time Low's new bullshit, and not one about these sweet tracks--one of which is like Sunn O))) with Phil's vocals and the other samples Twin Peaks.:-| :-0M-(

:explode:
but deep down you know its better than sun O)))

[Stephen Chamberlain]

but deep down you know its better than sun O)))
Oh yeah I'm not even that big of a fan of theirs.

[chipdip18]

So I take it you're enjoying The Glow Pt. 2? Then yeah, I would say go to It was Hot, We Stayed in the Water next. While The Glow Pt. 2 is a stronger, more mature album, It was Hot... has some very strong points that are essential to anyone that enjoys The Glow Pt. 2. Of course, then he went on to make Mount Eerie, a much more experimental, genre-defying album than his previous two. It's pretty great also; some would argue its his best.

Late response but yeah i'm really enjoying The Glow Pt. 2. I'm in this huge indie-rock kick right now and that album definitely hits the spot quite nicely. I'll definitely go find It Was Hot, We Stayed In the Water.

[Stephen Chamberlain]

Wind's Poem has hit the interwebz.

[SickOfStars]

Wind's Poem has hit the interwebz.

I am unable to find it and severely frustrated

[The Personist]

Wind's Poem has hit the interwebz.

I do not believe this statement.

[oddwithoutend]

I haven't found it yet, but Mr. Snow doesn't lie.

[The Personist]

he could be...


God I want that album.

[oddwithoutend]

Well I dont know him to lie, and why would he bump this thread with a lie? haha Only like three people on this site know who Elverum is.

[The Personist]

Well I dont know him to lie, and why would he bump this thread with a lie? haha Only like three people on this site know who Elverum is.

Am I #4?

[oddwithoutend]

Am I #4?

haha As far as I know.

[Stephen Chamberlain]

No I promise, it's out there. I didn't download it because it's in m4a (although 320 kbps) and I'm waiting for mp3. But it's readily available and there are threads discussing it if you know where to look.

[The Personist]

No I promise, it's out there. I didn't download it because it's in m4a (although 320 kbps) and I'm waiting for mp3. But it's readily available and there are threads discussing it if you know where to look.

Which I do not. God dammit I wanna hear this. To the internets!

[SickOfStars]

No I promise, it's out there. I didn't download it because it's in m4a (although 320 kbps) and I'm waiting for mp3. But it's readily available and there are threads discussing it if you know where to look.

are you kidding me dude? If you gave me the m4a link I could give you mp3 like 15 minutes later!!!

[Stephen Chamberlain]

are you kidding me dude? If you gave me the m4a link I could give you mp3 like 15 minutes later!!!
Won't some of the quality be lost?

[Dagless]

I know who Elverum is! :wave:

Thank you oddwithoutend

[SickOfStars]

Won't some of the quality be lost?

beats me, but to be perfectly honest, it's a LEAK.

I'm pretty sure it'd still be a far cry better quality than a lot of 128 or webrip bs that gets out there.

I'm sorry if it sounds like I'm trying to hit you with a hammer, I just wish I had gotten to you sooner so I could've been like "NOOOOO WAAAAIT"

[The Personist]

I know who Elverum is! :wave:

Thank you oddwithoutend

he's the reason I know, too!

[Stephen Chamberlain]

beats me, but to be perfectly honest, it's a LEAK.

I'm pretty sure it'd still be a far cry better quality than a lot of 128 or webrip bs that gets out there.

I'm sorry if it sounds like I'm trying to hit you with a hammer, I just wish I had gotten to you sooner so I could've been like "NOOOOO WAAAAIT"
I send you a link in a sec.
he's the reason I know, too!
Nice avatar. Love his poetry.

[SickOfStars]

I send you a link in a sec.

Nice avatar. Love his poetry.

Awesome. I have to head out to practice for a few hours in like 5, but when I get back I'll mp3 the shit out of that rip for you. You're one of the last true knights of good, and your poop probably smells like strawberry marshmellows (that are conveniently not made of horse hooves).


<3

[The Personist]

I send you a link in a sec.

Nice avatar. Love his poetry.

First person outside the poetry forum who knew who my avatar was. We are officially BFFs.

[Stephen Chamberlain]

Awesome. I have to head out to practice for a few hours in like 5, but when I get back I'll mp3 the shit out of that rip for you. You're one of the last true knights of good, and your poop probably smells like strawberry marshmellows (that are conveniently not made of horse hooves).


<3
Sent. And you don't have to convert it or anything, I'll just wait til it shows up on What.
Haha thanks I think.
First person outside the poetry forum who knew who my avatar was. We are officially BFFs.
Word. Well I minored in creative writing as an undergrad and am working on a master's in poetry, so it'd be pretty hard to not run across ol' Frank.

[The Personist]

Sent. And you don't have to convert it or anything, I'll just wait til it shows up on What.
Haha thanks I think.

Word. Well I minored in creative writing as an undergrad and am working on a master's in poetry, so it'd be pretty hard to not run across ol' Frank.

That's awesome. I'm double majoring in literature and theatre right now and intend to go to grad school for poetry because I have this crazy insane outlandish notion of being a poet. Woo!

[Stephen Chamberlain]

Yeah you have to be crazy that's for sure. How it invariably works is, you pay the bills teaching and do the poetry so you don't kill yourself lol.

[The Personist]

Yeah you have to be crazy that's for sure. How it invariably works is, you pay the bills teaching and do the poetry so you don't kill yourself lol.

Alternate ending:
drink too much, live in poverty and squalor, hate yourself, hate life, but be really good at poetry.

/Bukowski

[Stephen Chamberlain]

Not a fan of his personally, but yeah he had that lifestyle down to a science.

[The Personist]

It's a sucky lifestyle, though. I'm definitely going for the "teach and publish" approach. Or somethign and publish. I dunno if I wanna teach. I gotta figurethis stuff out. Blah.

[Stephen Chamberlain]

I'd really like to teach, but before they'll let you do that (more than just as an instructor), you have to be well published. Basically have a book.

[oddwithoutend]

I know who Elverum is! :wave:

Thank you oddwithoutend

haha My pleasure.

[oddwithoutend]

Found it.

[Dagless]

Right, I've got The Glow Pt. 2 and it's great. I just got Wind's Poem. I think I'll get It Was Hot... next, but where should I go from there?

[oddwithoutend]

Right, I've got The Glow Pt. 2 and it's great. I just got Wind's Poem. I think I'll get It Was Hot... next, but where should I go from there?

After It Was Hot... you could really go anywhere. Personally, I'd check out Mount Eerie (the album) after that. Got a favourite track on The Glow Pt. 2?

[Dagless]

After It Was Hot... you could really go anywhere. Personally, I'd check out Mount Eerie (the album) after that. Got a favourite track on The Glow Pt. 2?

Off the top of my head, probably I Want Wind To Blow. I don't know tracks by their title that well yet, I just know that I enjoy listening to the album :-d

Thanks for the recommendation. I really like this lo-fi style of music.

[oddwithoutend]

Off the top of my head, probably I Want Wind To Blow. I don't know tracks by their title that well yet, I just know that I enjoy listening to the album :-d

Thanks for the recommendation. I really like this lo-fi style of music.

My favourite too.

[briewer]

Bump.

Okay, so the new album, Wind's Poem, is supposed to be Phil Elverum's "black metal album" (http://pitchfork.com/news/35602-mount-eerie-preps-black-metal-album/). How do you guys feel about that? Considering how he's delved into some metal-ish dynamics in the past, like "The Gleam" on It Was Hot, We Stayed In The Water, various flourishes on The Glow Pt. 2 and Mount Eerie, and his Black Wooden Ceiling Opening EP, I think that it might turn out pretty well as long as he sticks to the Pelican-esque black metal, which he kind of has down pat already. What do you think? Is this going to turn out okay, or are we going to end up with another Lil Wayne does rock disaster?

[The Personist]

Bump.

Okay, so the new album, Wind's Poem, is supposed to be Phil Elverum's "black metal album" (http://pitchfork.com/news/35602-mount-eerie-preps-black-metal-album/). How do you guys feel about that? Considering how he's delved into some metal-ish dynamics in the past, like "The Gleam" on It Was Hot, We Stayed In The Water, various flourishes on The Glow Pt. 2 and Mount Eerie, and his Black Wooden Ceiling Opening EP, I think that it might turn out pretty well as long as he sticks to the Pelican-esque black metal, which he kind of has down pat already. What do you think? Is this going to turn out okay, or are we going to end up with another Lil Wayne does rock disaster?

If it were earlier, I'd reply in more depth. Quote me later and I shall?

[briewer]

If it were earlier, I'd reply in more depth. Quote me later and I shall?
Done.

[oddwithoutend]

Bump.

Okay, so the new album, Wind's Poem, is supposed to be Phil Elverum's "black metal album" (http://pitchfork.com/news/35602-mount-eerie-preps-black-metal-album/). How do you guys feel about that? Considering how he's delved into some metal-ish dynamics in the past, like "The Gleam" on It Was Hot, We Stayed In The Water, various flourishes on The Glow Pt. 2 and Mount Eerie, and his Black Wooden Ceiling Opening EP, I think that it might turn out pretty well as long as he sticks to the Pelican-esque black metal, which he kind of has down pat already. What do you think? Is this going to turn out okay, or are we going to end up with another Lil Wayne does rock disaster?

Well, I've listened to the album and can say that he has had success delving into black metal. It has folk qualities blended throughout the record which tends to give the album the perfect amount of variation in sound. Best Mount Eerie release and probably third best Elverum release (behind The Glow Pt. 2 and Mount Eerie).

[briewer]

Well, I've listened to the album and can say that he has had success delving into black metal. It has folk qualities blended throughout the record which tends to give the album the perfect amount of variation in sound. Best Mount Eerie release and probably third best Elverum release (behind The Glow Pt. 2 and Mount Eerie).
Really? That's good news. Where did you hear it?

[oddwithoutend]

Really? That's good news. Where did you hear it?

It leaked a while back, and it was incredibly difficult to find. But yeah, it's great stuff. Can't wait to get a physical copy.

[briewer]

It leaked a while back, and it was incredibly difficult to find. But yeah, it's great stuff. Can't wait to get a physical copy.
Cool, I'll do a little torrent hunting then.

[The Personist]

Bump.

Okay, so the new album, Wind's Poem, is supposed to be Phil Elverum's "black metal album" (http://pitchfork.com/news/35602-mount-eerie-preps-black-metal-album/). How do you guys feel about that? Considering how he's delved into some metal-ish dynamics in the past, like "The Gleam" on It Was Hot, We Stayed In The Water, various flourishes on The Glow Pt. 2 and Mount Eerie, and his Black Wooden Ceiling Opening EP, I think that it might turn out pretty well as long as he sticks to the Pelican-esque black metal, which he kind of has down pat already. What do you think? Is this going to turn out okay, or are we going to end up with another Lil Wayne does rock disaster?

I agree with basically everything Rick (oddwithoutend) said. It has a very "black metal" feel to it, but there's just enough folkiness to keep the sound grounded and make it a very Elverum album (as opposed to something that floundered a la Lil Wayne).

I wish I had more to say, but Rick said it all.

[briewer]

I agree with basically everything Rick (oddwithoutend) said. It has a very "black metal" feel to it, but there's just enough folkiness to keep the sound grounded and make it a very Elverum album (as opposed to something that floundered a la Lil Wayne).

I wish I had more to say, but Rick said it all.
I agree. I downloaded it, and I think Elverum might have been shitting himself a little with the "black metal" label. It's definitely heavier than anything he's done outside of Black Wooden Ceiling Opening, but his music has for the most part not shied away from from the heavier end of the spectrum so this isn't really a large departure from what he's done in the past, and I don't think it's quite heavy enough to be considered straight up black metal as opposed to indie rock that delves into black metal (<-Jeez, Professor Run-Ons over here). At any rate I'm loving it, and it's definitely my favorite thing he's done as Mount Eerie. I'm still putting The Glow Pt. 2, It Was Hot, We Stayed In The Water, and Mount Eerie ahead of it though. I'm glad to see Elverum not disappointing me as it seems every other artist to release an album this year has done.

[The Personist]

I agree. I downloaded it, and I think Elverum might have been shitting himself a little with the "black metal" label. It's definitely heavier than anything he's done outside of Black Wooden Ceiling Opening, but his music has for the most part not shied away from from the heavier end of the spectrum so this isn't really a large departure from what he's done in the past, and I don't think it's quite heavy enough to be considered straight up black metal as opposed to indie rock that delves into black metal (<-Jeez, Professor Run-Ons over here). At any rate I'm loving it, and it's definitely my favorite thing he's done as Mount Eerie. I'm still putting The Glow Pt. 2, It Was Hot, We Stayed In The Water, and Mount Eerie ahead of it though. I'm glad to see Elverum not disappointing me as it seems every other artist to release an album this year has done.

Peter Doherty's solo album was exquisite

/fanboy

It is really good, and as a black metal fan (like, legit, Norwegian, we spend more time on our makeup than our writing black metal), I can SORT OF see a FEW parallels between what he's doing and black metal. He obviously hasn't heard Gorgoroth, though.

The Glow Pt. 2 is far and away the best Elverum release, though I think this is better than Mount Eerie. I can see myself listening to it more.

[briewer]

Peter Doherty's solo album was exquisite

/fanboy
lol.

It is really good, and as a black metal fan (like, legit, Norwegian, we spend more time on our makeup than our writing black metal), I can SORT OF see a FEW parallels between what he's doing and black metal. He obviously hasn't heard Gorgoroth, though.
Of course, I just think it's more 'indie rock with heavy death metal influences' than straight up 'death metal.' Nitpicking, I know.

The Glow Pt. 2 is far and away the best Elverum release, though I think this is better than Mount Eerie. I can see myself listening to it more.
I've always liked It Was Hot, We Stayed In The Water the most, for whatever reason.

/controversial opinions

[The Personist]

lol.


Of course, I just think it's more 'indie rock with heavy death metal influences' than straight up 'death metal.' Nitpicking, I know.


I've always liked It Was Hot, We Stayed In The Water the most, for whatever reason.

/controversial opinions

Seriously, though. Listen to the Doherty album.

And why do you think It was Hot is better?

[briewer]

Seriously, though. Listen to the Doherty album.
I'll check it out, I promise.

And why do you think It was Hot is better?
I don't know if it's "better", per se, but I like it more because it's a bit more focused than The Glow Pt. 2. That or my attention span can handle 41 minutes but not 66 minutes.

[The Personist]

I'll check it out, I promise.


I don't know if it's "better", per se, but I like it more because it's a bit more focused than The Glow Pt. 2. That or my attention span can handle 41 minutes but not 66 minutes.

If there were one thing I DON'T like about The Glow Pt. 2, it's the length. An ideal album length, to me, is around 50 minutes. At the same time, though, every time I listen to it, I get sucked in. not to say It Was Hot isn't engaging, but there's something about The Glow Pt. 2 that makes it seem so much shorter than it actually is.

[briewer]

If there were one thing I DON'T like about The Glow Pt. 2, it's the length. An ideal album length, to me, is around 50 minutes. At the same time, though, every time I listen to it, I get sucked in. not to say It Was Hot isn't engaging, but there's something about The Glow Pt. 2 that makes it seem so much shorter than it actually is.
This is totally me. Part of the reason I lurve No Age is because their albums are 30 and 31 minutes each. Combined, they are shorter than The Glow Pt. 2. I mean, I love both albums and pretty much anything else Elverum has had his hand in, but I think the length, that airy single note that he disperses throughout The Glow Pt. 2 (like at the beginning of "Map") that just throws off the flow of the album (in my mind, at least), and the immaculate beauty that is "The Glow", which is probably my favorite track by him ever, push It Was Hot... slightly ahead of The Glow Pt. 2 for me.

[oddwithoutend]

The Glow Pt. 2 and Mount Eerie are similarly incredible, but of course, for very different reasons. It Was Hot is not up to par with the other two, in my eyes.

Also, Wind's Poem is probably the third best Elverum release.

[Klatzke]

Downloading Winds Poem now.. hoping for the best, the track streaming on Pitchfork was good.

[briewer]

Wind's Poem is getting some love from Tiny Mix Tapes:

http://www.tinymixtapes.com/Mount-Eerie,9465

[oddwithoutend]

Most reviews have been quite praising.

And Yay! It comes out today.

[Colorblind!]

If the rest of his stuff is even remotely close to Lost Wisdom, he will quickly become one of my favorite artists.

[briewer]

If the rest of his stuff is even remotely close to Lost Wisdom, he will quickly become one of my favorite artists.
I'd say most of his stuff (especially as the Microphones) is better than Lost Wisdom. You're in for quite the treat.

[oddwithoutend]

So how about that Wind's Poem? Album of the year? Could be...

[oddwithoutend]

I revealed myself to you
And let the wind take me
Obliterated, you know me by my shadow

[SickOfStars]

it is time to buy the moccassins and the flannels!

[oddwithoutend]

And to think a new post had me all excited...

[SickOfStars]

And to think a new post had me all excited...

REAL TALK

I've been jamming No Flashlight pretty often lately. It's really weird, I rarely see that one talked about, but it's seriously so fucking good.

[oddwithoutend]

REAL TALK

I've been jamming No Flashlight pretty often lately. It's really weird, I rarely see that one talked about, but it's seriously so fucking good.

It's decent. I like all of Elverum's material to some degree, though. Have you gave Wind's Poem a listen?

[Colorblind!]

Wind's Poem is quickly growing on me, at first I didn't get it at all, but I've listened to it all the way through a few times since then and it's starting to sort of click.

I wish Mount Eerie wasn't just five songs, I know it's a petty complaint but for some reason I enjoy a more split up album, like The Glow Pt. 2.

[SickOfStars]

It's decent. I like all of Elverum's material to some degree, though. Have you gave Wind's Poem a listen?

You betcha. I can be a mild to moderate elvrum/elverum/what-fucking-ever nerd. I'm really into the whole "black metal" elements making a return after the 2006 EP. Stone's Ode is love.

[DejaNew]

Not a fan of Wind's Poem. The only album I like by Elverum is The Glow Pt. 2.

[oddwithoutend]

Definitely. He hasn't had such a brilliantly ambiguous conclusion to an album since Mount Eerie.

[SickOfStars]

Not a fan of Wind's Poem. The only album I like by Elverum is The Glow Pt. 2.

It's always going to be the best one. I think Lost Wisdom came pretty goddamn close, but The Glow Pt. 2 will forever be the best Fall album ever.

[DejaNew]

It's always going to be the best one. I think Lost Wisdom came pretty goddamn close, but The Glow Pt. 2 will forever be the best Fall album ever.
Rick's really pushed it, and it worked. I can't get into any of his other stuff though.

[Colorblind!]

Rick's really pushed it, and it worked. I can't get into any of his other stuff though.

Have you tried Lost Wisdom? I absolutely love it.

[SickOfStars]

Lost Wisdom is fucking short and sweet. I think it clocks in at somewhere between 25 and 30 minutes, but it's still such a moving album.

Also, check out some of the b-sides they compiled on "Dawn." Moon Sequel is the sad jam of the century.

[DejaNew]

Have you tried Lost Wisdom? I absolutely love it.
Yeah man, just not my thing. I don't usually like this style of music, but The Glow Pt.2 is a gem.

[SickOfStars]

I should come on this site more often. You fucking kids are liking so much more music that I dig every day.


and I say that with zero condescension <3

[DejaNew]

Lost Wisdom is fucking short and sweet. I think it clocks in at somewhere between 25 and 30 minutes, but it's still such a moving album.

Also, check out some of the b-sides they compiled on "Dawn." Moon Sequel is the sad jam of the century.
Moon Sequel is great. I can agree with that. Did you know that Elverum can't play The Moon live because he said it makes him so sad that he would throw up? The Moon is easily one of the most depressing and moving songs I've ever listened to.

[SickOfStars]

Moon Sequel is great. I can agree with that. Did you know that Elverum can't play The Moon live because he said it makes him so sad that he would throw up? The Moon is easily one of the most depressing and moving songs I've ever listened to.

Now, this is where I might sound like a dick, but I'm going to go ahead and say "yeah, okay dude. you are clearly fucking deep"

People sing songs really sad songs about awful shit that's happened to them every day. The fact that Phil can't look back at the awful things that came of that song, choose to get something out of playing the song, and move forward with his life kinda make me sad for him.

Or at least, I think it would, if I didn't think that that statement is look how fucking indie I am horseshit.

[DejaNew]

Now, this is where I might sound like a dick, but I'm going to go ahead and say "yeah, okay dude. you are clearly fucking deep"

People sing songs really sad songs about awful shit that's happened to them every day. The fact that Phil can't look back at the awful things that came of that song, choose to get something out of playing the song, and move forward with his life kinda make me sad for him.

Or at least, I think it would, if I didn't think that that statement is look how fucking indie I am horseshit.
Trust me man, I'm not that indie. I was just sharing a piece of information that I found interesting. I'm still backing up the fact that The Moon is really sad though.

[SickOfStars]

Trust me man, I'm not that indie. I was just sharing a piece of information that I found interesting. I'm still backing up the fact that The Moon is really sad though.

Hahahaha, that whole quote was towards Phil. He's too indie. Go back and read. No one is attacking you, my brother :-p


Like, it's just so goddamn fucking dramatic to be like "oh I can't play that song. I'd get so sad that I'd vomit blood" Like, fucking get over it dude. You wrote the song with the express purpose of emoting and being able to move forward with your life. Now you're stuck with it being your best song. You are going to have to sack up and play it. Not for fans, I don't believe in fan service, just in general.

[oddwithoutend]

Lost Wisdom is fucking short and sweet. I think it clocks in at somewhere between 25 and 30 minutes, but it's still such a moving album.

Also, check out some of the b-sides they compiled on "Dawn." Moon Sequel is the sad jam of the century.

Dawn is a great bunch of songs, but together it all kind of meshes together. "I Say No" is fantastic.

[DejaNew]

Hahahaha, that whole quote was towards Phil. He's too indie. Go back and read. No one is attacking you, my brother :-p


Like, it's just so goddamn fucking dramatic to be like "oh I can't play that song. I'd get so sad that I'd vomit blood" Like, fucking get over it dude. You wrote the song with the express purpose of emoting and being able to move forward with your life. Now you're stuck with it being your best song. You are going to have to sack up and play it. Not for fans, I don't believe in fan service, just in general.
Hahahahahah. I'm an idiot. To be honest, I think it adds a whole new dynamic to the song. Knowing that he wrote a song that makes him so sad that he gets sick to his stomach even thinking about playing it makes you wonder what it is that is so depressing about the song. I don't think he is trying to be pretentious, I mean, the guy went and lived by himself in the middle of nowhere in Norway for a year just to know what it felt like to truly be alone. I think he thrives on being depressed.

[Colorblind!]

I should come on this site more often. You fucking kids are liking so much more music that I dig every day.


and I say that with zero condescension <3

We could use your humble opinions every now and then. ;)

[SickOfStars]

Hahahahahah. I'm an idiot. To be honest, I think it adds a whole new dynamic to the song. Knowing that he wrote a song that makes him so sad that he gets sick to his stomach even thinking about playing it makes you wonder what it is that is so depressing about the song. I don't think he is trying to be pretentious, I mean, the guy went and lived by himself in the middle of nowhere in Norway for a year just to know what it felt like to truly be alone. I think he thrives on being depressed.

Which may or may not be retarded :-)

I mean, I say all this in the context of admiring him as a human being and an artist, so I don't really know where I'm going with the ranting and all haha.

[DejaNew]

Which may or may not be retarded :-)

I mean, I say all this in the context of admiring him as a human being and an artist, so I don't really know where I'm going with the ranting and all haha.
I can understand your frustration. Sometimes it may seem that by doing these things that he is trying to act more indie than anybody else. I think Phil just wants to experience just how deep each emotion can feel. I really respect him for that too. It takes a lot of bravery to experiment with human emotion, the mind can only take so much before it switches itself off.

[SickOfStars]

I can understand your frustration. Sometimes it may seem that by doing these things that he is trying to act more indie than anybody else. I think Phil just wants to experience just how deep each emotion can feel. I really respect him for that too. It takes a lot of bravery to experiment with human emotion, the mind can only take so much before it switches itself off.

When you word it like an experiment, it makes more sense to me, but overall, life's too short to spend all your time with your dick dipped in a frozen lake just to know how cold and eventually detached it can get.

[DejaNew]

When you word it like an experiment, it makes more sense to me, but overall, life's too short to spend all your time with your dick dipped in a frozen lake just to know how cold and eventually detached it can get.
Seriously, I have a new signature.

[SickOfStars]

Seriously, I have a new signature.

:-d

[DejaNew]

:-d
You have no idea how much I just laughed at that. Why I have never talked to you before is beyond me.

[oddwithoutend]

Wow. A conversation I never expected to go down here, just happened.

Phil Elverum has decidedly depressed himself by spending time in Norway. It's an experiment with his life. It's very strange, bt it produced some of the best art I've ever appreciated. Don't know how to view him as a person, other than the fact that I see a lot of him in myself, but as an artist, absolutely supernatural.

[SickOfStars]

You have no idea how much I just laughed at that. Why I have never talked to you before is beyond me.

I flit in and out of existence around here. College. Bands. Work. and Etc.

[DejaNew]

I flit in and out of existence around here. College. Bands. Work. and Etc.
Ah, I'm the same way. I've decided not to build my schedule around a website.

[SickOfStars]

Wow. A conversation I never expected to go down here, just happened.

Phil Elverum has decidedly depressed himself by spending time in Norway. It's an experiment with his life. It's very strange, bt it produced some of the best art I've ever appreciated. Don't know how to view him as a person, other than the fact that I see a lot of him in myself, but as an artist, absolutely supernatural.

I think Phillie's probably a good guy. He's no doubt supernaturally weird though. I love his art, but he is like a riddle to me. We booked Mt. Eerie (aka just him) to come play at my school last year. He just showed up and played fucking Thanksgiving songs. It was a cool set, but I did not see Mt. Eerie live, and when it comes down to it, we payed Mt. Eerie to come play. I'm not sore about it, but I'm pretty sure that other booking folks would've probably been upset.

I feel like if I ever had a conversation that wasn't telling him where his free dinner was, we would probably disagree on some stuff. I don't agree with romanticizing or anecdotalizing life, and being open to different approaches to carrying out one's existence is important. However, when it comes down to it, we have a limited amount of time on this planet, and having an overall good time is a little bit more important than experimenting with total isolation and giving your emotional well-being a fucking runny nose.

I write and sing/yell songs about some pretty bad stuff that has happened to me or is happening within the confines of the society we as a species have built, but that doesn't mean that I'm going to get as depressed as possible. Life is multi-faceted and should be treated with a forward-looking, yet definitely aware mindset.

[oddwithoutend]

I think Phillie's probably a good guy. He's no doubt supernaturally weird though. I love his art, but he is like a riddle to me. We booked Mt. Eerie (aka just him) to come play at my school last year. He just showed up and played fucking Thanksgiving songs. It was a cool set, but I did not see Mt. Eerie live, and when it comes down to it, we payed Mt. Eerie to come play. I'm not sore about it, but I'm pretty sure that other booking folks would've probably been upset.

Yeah, not sure how much you could trust him; that's disappointing. Is he faking that strange personality he wears on his sleeve? Possibly, but he does it so well. I like to think he's not just putting on a show.

[oddwithoutend]

I feel like if I ever had a conversation that wasn't telling him where his free dinner was, we would probably disagree on some stuff. I don't agree with romanticizing or anecdotalizing life, and being open to different approaches to carrying out one's life is important. However, when it comes down to it, we have a limited amount of time on this planet, and having an overall good time is a little bit more important than experimenting with total aloneness.

I write and sing/yell songs about some pretty bad stuff that has happened to me or is happening within the confines of the society we as a species have built, but that doesn't mean that I'm going to get as depressed as possible. Life is multi-faceted and should be treated with a forward-looking, yet definitely aware mindset.


So do you think that the creation of art should show benefit to your life of some sort, or that it's unneccessary? If Elverum's life goal was to be an amazing artist, he's succeeded, but at what cost? Is that a worthy cause to live your life for, regardless of consequence? It's not something I'd dedicate my life to, but yeah. Who am I to say that my goals are more tasteful, you know?

[SickOfStars]

Yeah, not sure how much you could trust him; that's disappointing. Is he faking that strange personality he wears on his sleeve? Possibly, but he does it so well. I like to think he's not just putting on a show.

I'd like to think that too, but fucking seriously. I've met a lot of people in my life, and it's been a common thread in all of them that you're just bellyaching after a point. I mean, I have no idea the shit Phil Elvrum's seen, he may have lived through Saw II in real life or something fucked up, but overall, there are few things traumatic enough to make you like that.

...and then there are chemical imbalances, which for whatever reason, I have entirely overlooked until this very second. Duh on my part.

[DejaNew]

I know this is off topic, but I can't figure out how to quote somebody into my signature. Help?

[SickOfStars]

So do you think that the creation of art should show benefit to your life of some sort, or that it's unneccessary? If Elverum's life goal was to be an amazing artist, he's succeeded, but at what cost? Is that a worthy cause to live your life for, regardless of consequence? It's not something I'd dedicate my life to, but yeah. Who am I to say that my goals are more tasteful, you know?

I think the creation of art is the creation of art. I'm not saying anything about artistic motivation. Make your art. Make it come from your heart. Take pride in your craft. Immerse yourself in it. Get dangerous to others and yourself with it.

I don't think Phil did or should set out to become a great artist. I don't think anyone should. Art is a funny thing, and so it should remain. Why do you make art? Because you do. And that's all there should be to it. If we start trying to assign tangible goals to creating art, then it ceases to be art. You can receive tangible things for making art, as long as you don't set out to make art simply to receive tangible benefit. I know it seems kind of weird, but it's just how it should be, in my humblest of opinions.

What it comes down to is being able to compartmentalize. We've all had bad things happen to us. Some of us create based off of those things. Obviously those things may be sad/angry in nature. That, however, doesn't mean that we have to become sad and alone all the fucking time. The fact that Phil has supposedly immersed himself so completely in sadness, while it may keep giving me great songs to listen to, shows an unwillingness to live that I don't know if anyone could respect (if it's as severe as it sounds).

We exist on this planet but once, and it's for too short of a time to bellyache the whole time, is all I'm saying. It's not a very difficult conclusion to come to, either. I'm not saying that negative emotions should be ignored, because then you're just painting a smile on, but I feel that with perspective one can actually live their life with a much smaller amount of personal sadness than the average person wallows in.

[oddwithoutend]

That's all well and good, but I don't think I'll be able to create good art when i reach a certain point in my life. I'll be too desensitized, too stable, too content, etc. Elverum may have long reached that point, yet continues to force emotion onto himself. I don't consider Wind's Poem very depressing to be honest, though a lot of his material is. I don't think he forced himself into depression for this album, he forced himself into a different state of mind. Hard to judge his actions without knowing his personal life though, I guess.

[SickOfStars]

That's all well and good, but I don't think I'll be able to create good art when i reach a certain point in my life. I'll be too desensitized, too stable, too content, etc. Elverum may have long reached that point, yet continues to force emotion onto himself. I don't consider Wind's Poem very depressing to be honest, though a lot of his material is. I don't think he forced himself into depression for this album, he forced himself into a different state of mind. Hard to judge his actions without knowing his personal life though, I guess.

Haha, this is probably way beyond judging Phil. I think he became more of a symbol at this point.

Phil, to be perfectly honest, seems like a pretty chill guy, which I respect immensely. One can recognize and experience the full range of emotions, write some truly heartbreaking/moving art, and still be down to earth, and that's great.

This whole shebang basically spurned from DejaNew saying someone once said that Phil said he couldn't play the moon because he'd vomit. Which, even if true, is a little bit dramatic.

and I don't know about becoming desensetized in addition to stable and content. I really don't want to preach, because I have a lot to learn about existing myself, but becoming stable and content with your physical/emotional identity doesn't mean desensitization toward the negative or positive. I like to think that I am pleasantly overwhelmed with life. I'm not going to deny myself sadness. If I'm sad, I'll be fucking sad, but upon thinking about things most of the time, the sadness goes away. This isn't about reaching any extreme, but just living your own life.

I feel like I may not be getting a lot of what I'm saying across at all because I'm kind of a muddled thinker. I'm basically saying:

Guy can be sad. Guy can create sad art. Sad art can be sad. Guy doesn't have to embody the character of his art. Guy can make sad songs and not be sad. Guy can write world's saddest song and play it without vomiting. If guy needs to vomit from playing the song, guy should sit down and think for a little bit about why he's vomiting.

Mike Kinsella writes some sad fucking songs but was awesome to hang out with and will sing along to Fight For Your Right to Party if it's played around him and alcohol. There is no denying the raw fucking awesomeness of that.

[oddwithoutend]

You're right. This conversation is strange because we're not even sure if this "ultimately depressed" person even exists, you know? haha

[SickOfStars]

You're right. This conversation is strange because we're not even sure if this "ultimately depressed" person even exists, you know? haha

Haha, yeah, exactly. I mean, no one in here seems to be in that state either, so the zen-out pep-talk philosophy is probably something I could've checked at the door.

I just wanted to know that if such a self-made depressed person existed, that someone else besides me would go "ohhhhh brother" is all, I guess.

[oddwithoutend]

Haha, yeah, exactly. I mean, no one in here seems to be in that state either, so the zen-out pep-talk philosophy is probably something I could've checked at the door.

I just wanted to know that if such a self-made depressed person existed, that someone else besides me would go "ohhhhh brother" is all, I guess.

hahaha Fair enough. You can count me in.

[SickOfStars]

hahaha Fair enough. You can count me in.

I feel like a lot of that tyrading of mine should've been focused on someone like Jesse Lacey hahaha. However, I'm about sure he is pretty much boozing and fucking 23/6, so eh.

[oddwithoutend]

haha I agree. I'm not really sure if Lacey is truly an artist at heart. Like, if I met him, I don't think he'd come off that way.

[SickOfStars]

haha I agree. I'm not really sure if Lacey is truly an artist at heart. Like, if I met him, I don't think he'd come off that way.

Which might rule. An artist and a dude/girl should be the same thing. If someone makes art and I meet him and he is just a dude, my life feels like it's a little bit better.

[oddwithoutend]

Interesting. You don't believe in the "artist type"?

[SickOfStars]

Interesting. You don't believe in the "artist type"?

They exist, and some of them are pretty cool people/friends of mine.

However, if it seems like they are THAT much of the artist type, it's bullshit. A lot of people are preoccupied with being the artist type. Even if you actually talk to real life artist types, chances are they're just people. They drink. They eat. They masturbate to internet porn. They like burritos. You know? The fuck good is a facade for anybody?

I'm just a 5'6" little guy that likes to wear sweaters and be nice to people. Why would I try to be anything else just because I am in bands??? Art speaks for itself so you don't have to be moody all day.

[oddwithoutend]

Yeah, I'm inclined to agree. Nothing's worse than bullshit, either. haha

[SickOfStars]

Yeah, I'm inclined to agree. Nothing's worse than bullshit, either. haha

Indeed.

I just think it's weird that people build up other people that make art to be these giant melancholy monoliths.

I bet Thom Yorke has beers with his friends and cracks jokes and maybe even FARTS *gasp*.


A lot of people in Phil's neck of the 100 acre wood (musically) do kinda seem like they are trying very hard to be artist types (YO WHAT UP ELEPHANT SIX HOW YOU ALL DOIN'), and while that is seven kinds of distasteful to me, I like a lot of the music too much to even care.

[briewer]

I know this is off topic, but I can't figure out how to quote somebody into my signature. Help?
The same way you would if you were quoting them in the forum. Just click "Quote" under the post, copy everything in the [QUOTE] [QUOTE/] box, and paste it in your sig.

[blebbio]

Phil Elverum is a musical genius.

[SickOfStars]

Phil Elverum is a musical genius.

seconded

[oddwithoutend]

Wind's Poem is still epic.

[oddwithoutend]

The roots that held a tree down
Left a deep hole
Full of water
Reflecting sky

This is why Elverum is still the best.

[xJesusFreakx]

I know that I like the sound of The Glow Pt 2 a lot, but I haven't listened to it much at all, and I still haven't even thought about the lyrical content. Tragic, I know, especially since I already know I'll love it once I really get into it.

[oddwithoutend]

The little verse I posted is from his latest, Wind's Poem actually. His music can be exhausting, but when you're in the mood give it a listen. Nothing can beat it.

[xJesusFreakx]

The little verse I posted is from his latest, Wind's Poem actually. His music can be exhausting, but when you're in the mood give it a listen. Nothing can beat it.

I haven't gone anywhere beyond The Glow Pt 2 yet (obviously, since I'm still new to it). Isn't that album a bit different?

[oddwithoutend]

Yeah, it's quite different. One of his more experimental outings, as black metal influences are intertwined with his usual imaginative folk.

[ruffian]

listened to mount eerie (album) for the first time in forever last night. so amazing.

[xJesusFreakx]

Yeah, it's quite different. One of his more experimental outings, as black metal influences are intertwined with his usual imaginative folk.

Black metal? Huh. I'm curious now.

[oddwithoutend]

listened to mount eerie (album) for the first time in forever last night. so amazing.
Such a great album.

[Kevin Enns]

He's actually the worst musician ever.

The Glow Part 2, especially, shall go down in history as a landmark abomination.

The song, "The Moon," in fact, will be known for centuries as one of mankind's worst things.

[xJesusFreakx]

He's actually the worst musician ever.

The Glow Part 2, especially, shall go down in history as a landmark abomination.

The song, "The Moon," in fact, will be known for centuries as one of mankind's worst things.

http://memegenerator.net/Instances/579/Boxxy-Yous-Trollin8.jpg

[oddwithoutend]

He's actually the worst musician ever.

The Glow Part 2, especially, shall go down in history as a landmark abomination.

The song, "The Moon," in fact, will be known for centuries as one of mankind's worst things.
Get ass cancer, you molester!

[Kevin Enns]

http://memegenerator.net/Instances/579/Boxxy-Yous-Trollin8.jpg

Congratulations!

You've stated the obvious.

In all seriousness, they are pretty good, as far as their genre goes.

[briewer]

If the Microphones/Mount Eerie thread gets bumped and neither Rick nor I did it, does it still count?

[Kevin Enns]

Yeah, it's quite different. One of his more experimental outings, as black metal influences are intertwined with his usual imaginative folk.
I assume you are talking about The Glow Part 2?

As someone who has heard this album and thought it was good as far as its genre goes, I fail to see what black metal influences you are referring to.

I concede it was recorded by one man in Norway around a campfire, and has naturesque themes. Those all can be components of black metal.

But there were no harsh, rasping vocals that few people like.

There were no "extreme" themes (be they satanism (i.e., Mayhem, Carpathian Forest, Gorgoroth), extremist Christianity (i.e., Horde, Poems of Shadows), national socialism (i.e., Hate Forest), depressive-suicidialism (i.e., Xasthur). This is not to say ANY genre of music is defined by its lyrics, as I am the worlds biggest proponent of placing music into genres based on how it sounds, not on what it is about. However, it is rather difficult to locate black metal which is not extreme in themes.

I don't see Phil Elvrum wearing corpse paint.

From Wikipedia:
Black metal is an extreme (http://www.absolutepunk.net/wiki/Extreme_metal) subgenre of heavy metal (http://www.absolutepunk.net/wiki/Heavy_metal_music). It often employs fast tempos, shrieked vocals, highly distorted guitars played with tremolo picking (http://www.absolutepunk.net/wiki/Tremolo_picking), double-kick drumming, and unconventional song structure.

What of this was found in The Glow Part 2?

Not to be rude, but just saying. Any clarification would be appreciated.

Also note I do not primarily listen to black metal, as I am more of a death metal person, however, I think I am in the top half of people in the world in terms of general knowledge about black metal (I know it exists, for example). Also, although most of my favorite bands fall under one of death metal's banners, my #1 favorite band would be considered black metal (symphonic/experimetnal unblack metal if we want to be specific): VIXIVI.

Merry Christmas.

[IWasaCamera]

Wind's Poem, not The Glow Pt. 2.

[Kevin Enns]

Well, looks like I win the idiot of the day award. I'll give that one a spin and see if it is actually black metal or not.

I didn't read back far enough to see that you were talking about Wind's Poem (if you read back you can see how easy it would be for another person to make the same error).

Sorry.

[oddwithoutend]

To clarify, it is not a black metal album. I was merely saying that black metal influences are present and obvious.

[xJesusFreakx]

To clarify, it is not a black metal album. I was merely saying that black metal influences are present and obvious.

No, you said the words "black," "metal," and "album"! You said it!!

[oddwithoutend]

No, you said the words "black," "metal," and "album"! You said it!!
We're tired of the Timothy Hay!

[xJesusFreakx]

We're tired of the Timothy Hay!

Don't you quote my least favorite album from one of my favorite bands to me. I heard this too often immediately after the album came out. (This was my most disappointing album of the year before I had the displeasure of hearing Daisy.)

[oddwithoutend]

Oh no, Timothy Hay! Oh no, Timothy Hay! Dooo Do Do. Dooo Do Do. Doo Doo DOoo Do Do.

I'm sorry. I think it's a pretty good album, but I can reeeeeeeeeeeeally see how a previous fan of mewithoutYou would hate it.

[xJesusFreakx]

Oh no, Timothy Hay! Oh no, Timothy Hay! Dooo Do Do. Dooo Do Do. Doo Doo DOoo Do Do.

I'm sorry. I think it's a pretty good album, but I can reeeeeeeeeeeeally see how a previous fan of mewithoutYou would hate it.

I think I liked the album more when Neutral Milk Hotel did it. Just saying... Their strongest point has always been their poetic-yet-conversational lyrics and delivery, and they through that out almost completely. There's just very little to make me care. I think Micah hit the nail on the head in his review when he called it the first mewithoutYou album with lyrics inferior to the instrumentation.

[oddwithoutend]

I think I liked the album more when Neutral Milk Hotel did it. Just saying...
When you start comparing bands to NMH, you're bound to be disappointed though. Look at The Rural Alberta Advantage. Similar style to NMH, but as soon as I realised that they really had quite a different goal in mind, I appreciated their music a lot more.
Their strongest point has always been their poetic-yet-conversational lyrics and delivery, and they through that out almost completely. There's just very little to make me care.
I enjoyed that from them too, but ignoring their past releases (which can be very difficult or even pointless to try and do) they're pretty successful with their new approach.
I think Micah hit the nail on the head in his review when he called it the first mewithoutYou album with lyrics inferior to the instrumentation.
Yeah, I can't argue with that.

[xJesusFreakx]

They're moderately successful with the new approach, I suppose, but I don't care for it at all. Maybe I would if they had managed to keep me interested lyrically. I appreciate the subtlety, but Aaron used to display this same subtlety while at the same time keeping things delightfully confessional and conversational.

[oddwithoutend]

haha Yeah, i don't enjoy the album, either. Can't really get into its style. I'm just saying that I think it's fairly good.

[xJesusFreakx]

You also enjoy MGMT. I don't care if you write for Sun on the Sand and worship The Glow Pt 2. Opinion negated.

[oddwithoutend]

haha MGMT has a few good songs. No good albums, but a few good songs.

Posting in this thread is a privilege, Tim, not a right. Understand?

[xJesusFreakx]

Hey, I just listened to half of "The Glow Pt 2" and posted a video of it on Facebook. I then moved on to Demi Lovato. So, bleh.

[SickOfStars]

you fucking kids get along or else

[xJesusFreakx]

He started it!

[IWasaCamera]

You also enjoy MGMT. I don't care if you write for Sun on the Sand and worship The Glow Pt 2. Opinion negated.
Basically.

[oddwithoutend]

Today I learned that It Was Hot, We Stayed In The Water is still good.

[oddwithoutend]

Anyone else have any Elverum-related realisations today?

[oddwithoutend]

Well, it was worth a try.

[Rawrr]

Yes, the first four songs on It Was Hot.. are virtually perfect imo

[jbertclassic]

I'm gonna try Microphones/Mt. Eerie out as I've never heard them before. Starting point?

And on a side note, I'm a huge mwY fan and their latest was a big disappointment for me as well.

[Rawrr]

I'd start out with either Glow, Pt. 2 or It Was Hot, We Stayed In the Water for the Microphones, but those are just my two favorite releases of his.

For Mount Eerie, I really like Lost Wisdom

[jbertclassic]

I'd start out with either Glow, Pt. 2 or It Was Hot, We Stayed In the Water for the Microphones, but those are just my two favorite releases of his.

For Mount Eerie, I really like Lost Wisdom

Sounds good thanks. Just took a peek at the Wiki. This guy's got a ton of material, my goodness.

[briewer]

Today I learned that It Was Hot, We Stayed In The Water is still good.
How did you just "realize" that? I've been shoving that opinion down your throat as long as I've known you.

[oddwithoutend]

How did you just "realize" that? I've been shoving that opinion down your throat as long as I've known you.
haha The key word in my post was "still".

[GhostFight]

it was hot we stayed in the water is a great album to start with

[oddwithoutend]

Yes, the first four songs on It Was Hot.. are virtually perfect imo
I can't complain.

[kearn1tm]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blank_Generation_%28album%29

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d2/Blankgeneration.jpg

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I'm swell.

[oddwithoutend]

Touché.

[kearn1tm]

Touché.

You're welcome.

[DejaNew]

Mommy! I'm obscure!

[IntoTheSun]

Hahaha, Todd just had to get his revenge.

[Rawrr]

How are the Microphones/Mount Eerie obscure in any way? Assuming that's what your post is about.

[DejaNew]

Inside joke.

[oddwithoutend]

How are the Microphones/Mount Eerie obscure in any way? Assuming that's what your post is about.
I would argue The Microphones and Mount Eerie are obscure in every way. Their music on albums such as Mount Eerie, Wind's Poem, or White Stag is obscure in that their meanings are ambiguous and difficult to discern. They are also obscure in the sense of being dark, as a lot of their music carries an ominous ambience to it. Lastly, they are obscure in terms of their popularity; especially Mount Eerie, as only the most dedicated of music enthusiast has even heard of them.

[Rawrr]

No.

[oddwithoutend]

haha

[DejaNew]

No.
Is that even an argument?

[xJesusFreakx]

I love posts that just simply say, "No," or some other powerful one-word statement. It's just so final.

[IntoTheSun]

I love posts that just simply say, "No," or some other powerful one-word statement. It's just so final.

No.

[DejaNew]

I love posts that just simply say, "No," or some other powerful one-word statement. It's just so final.
I don't understand it. Either he feels he's too good for us regular music-listeners or he has no argument.

[xJesusFreakx]

No.

Yes.

[IntoTheSun]

Yes.

Douche.

[DejaNew]

Douche.
Ouch.

[xJesusFreakx]

Douche.

Cool.

[IntoTheSun]

Ouch.

Another inside joke has made me look bad.

Or does it just make me more kick ass?

[DejaNew]

Another inside joke has made me look bad.

Or does it just make me more kick ass?
It makes you look BADASS.

[IntoTheSun]

Cool.

Tim.

It makes you look BADASS.

I see what you did there xD

[oddwithoutend]

What's with all of this non-Elverum stuff? Dom, get liking The Microphones. Tim, get liking them more. Andrea, tell me your current favourite song.

[DejaNew]

What's with all of this non-Elverum stuff? Dom, get liking The Microphones. Tim, get liking them more. Andrea, tell me your current favourite song.
Rick, I like The Glow Pt.2. That's all.

[xJesusFreakx]

Tim.

Rickistryingtogetusontopicbecausehe islame.

[IntoTheSun]

What's with all of this non-Elverum stuff? Dom, get liking The Microphones. Tim, get liking them more. Andrea, tell me your current favourite song.

I refuse to pick just one.

[oddwithoutend]

Rick, I like The Glow Pt.2. That's all.
But you would most definitely like It Was Hot, We Stayed In The Water more. haha You know I know these things.