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Frank Giaramita
12/04/05, 03:29 PM
pureVOLUME.com (www.purevolume.com) has launched their new features (click on a band's profile to see what I'm talking about). One of the more prominent features is the ability to create a profile as a listener (http://www.purevolume.com/signup_listener) (as opposed to an artist). To check out a brief overview of the new features, click here (http://backstage.purevolume.com/externals/listenerprofile-16sep.html).

Rohan Kohli
12/04/05, 03:31 PM
The simplicity of PV is what I liked about it; I really hope it doesn't become too cluttered. I hope the music is still their first priority.

she cant swim!
12/04/05, 03:31 PM
swish

jetxblack
12/04/05, 03:33 PM
purespace.

seans seatbelt
12/04/05, 03:33 PM
Sounds pretty gay to me.
Every website is turning into Myspace.

jfb392
12/04/05, 03:34 PM
I hope they don't change anything about the PurePlayer.
I want to still be able to rip music without doing a stereo mix rip.

Trust
12/04/05, 03:34 PM
My predictions-

1) These new features will totally flop because it doesn't seemt o provide people with anything fresh, new or innovative that Myspace hasn't already covered.

2) pureVOLUME.com will be offline and out of business by Summer '06... as Myspace.com continues to grow and kill them.

zbrmike79
12/04/05, 03:37 PM
i prefer purevolume over myspace music players... cause for some reason my school's internet cant load the myspace player songs.... so i really hope it doesnt go offline

jfb392
12/04/05, 03:37 PM
My predictions-

1) These new features will totally flop because it doesn't seemt o provide people with anything fresh, new or innovative that Myspace hasn't already covered.

2) pureVOLUME.com will be offline and out of business by Summer '06... as Myspace.com continues to grow and kill them.Well, paying members will have higher bitrate limits, so that's one +..

Mitch
12/04/05, 03:38 PM
I'm curious as to how it's going to be....Hopefully it launches soon.

carsandcalories
12/04/05, 03:38 PM
wow. thats cool/strange/shitty/dumb.

jfb392
12/04/05, 03:39 PM
did anyone read about the new features and see the screen shots of what its suppose to look like? It looks pretty cool to me.Yeah, some of the features like the buttons look exactly like AP on white style.

Spicoli hey bud
12/04/05, 03:40 PM
There is no reason to change purvolume

it's perfect

Mitch
12/04/05, 03:42 PM
There is no reason to change purvolume

it's perfect

Eh, I think it needed a design revamping. But it seems like they might be changing it too much, and changing the whole purpose of the original PV.

mr fun
12/04/05, 03:42 PM
Myspace is great becuase so many people use it, but it still kind of sucks in the features for bands dept. There are alot of things that labels and bands could use to help keep their relationships up with their fans. Hopefully PV will at least offer a better way to sort friends. That alone would be a coup over MS.

Trust
12/04/05, 03:43 PM
Everything that Purevolume provides, Myspace provides, and Myspace has a huge edge because it gets a lot more hits (which means more exposure for the artists) and allows the artists to promote through friends and other communicative methods. With this said, I can't name any major reasons why an artist would direct kids to their Purevolume.com page as opposed to their Myspace.com page... Purevolume won't survive unless they can discover a way to do this and discover a way to pull in hits that could give artists the exposure Myspace does.

Epilogue
12/04/05, 03:45 PM
My predictions-

1) These new features will totally flop because it doesn't seemt o provide people with anything fresh, new or innovative that Myspace hasn't already covered.

2) pureVOLUME.com will be offline and out of business by Summer '06... as Myspace.com continues to grow and kill them.

I think i'll second this. the new purevolume is looking like it's going to be way too complicated, if they wanted to complicate things they should have atleast have done it with unique features. But even their new music player has been bulked up and looks more like the myspace player. Not a smart move.

But onto more nerdy talk, I'm sure it'll be very clean semantic code I can drool over for hours.

SePaMc
12/04/05, 03:48 PM
but won't it have a player that can be taken off the page and u can continue to surf other places (kinda like the old PVPlayer?). That's a plus.

I wonder if FOB's plays will go down if they don't use Dead on Arrival as the main song that loads everytime? (i know it doesn't count, so don't criticize my sarcasm)

Melie
12/04/05, 03:55 PM
so that's what they were doing. i was wondering why that page kept coming up.

Reiver
12/04/05, 04:03 PM
The tag thing reminds me of Last.Fm

NFG4ever
12/04/05, 04:07 PM
I hope it doesn't turn into a my space. I find that site rather annoying.

Vic7im of Life
12/04/05, 04:08 PM
The first time in a while that I wanted to use pv and now its down for awhile. awesome.

danielplaysbass
12/04/05, 04:12 PM
i hope band pages load faster on macs now. at least on mine..

kallok
12/04/05, 04:15 PM
The changes will be good for PV. I'm not worried about PV going downhill... it's going to stay about the music.

Stereo Therapy
12/04/05, 04:20 PM
eh, im not a big fan of purevolume since its mostly just a cesspool of generic shit... still, its a nice place to easily stream music. this whole purespace business is stupid. they should at least keep the old site running with just the music on it.

AgentX
12/04/05, 04:20 PM
ok the question here is do we really need another myspace???? i'm pretty sure one is enough (prob more than enough)

i used to love PV because it was all about the music and not a load of lame haircuts

JohnnyQuest
12/04/05, 04:20 PM
My predictions-

1) These new features will totally flop because it doesn't seemt o provide people with anything fresh, new or innovative that Myspace hasn't already covered.

2) pureVOLUME.com will be offline and out of business by Summer '06... as Myspace.com continues to grow and kill them.


They're going to continue offering a good service that's music-centric. Myspace may be rocking the house, but it doesn't mean there isn't room in the biz for two competitors. I bet PV is doing juuust fine with their ad revenues. And this new system will make kids spend even more time there bc they can personalize their pages (albeit with some practical constraints -- besides, myspace fan pages give me seizures).

Rohan Kohli
12/04/05, 04:21 PM
eh, im not a big fan of purevolume since its basically just a cesspool of generic shit... still, its a nice place to easily stream music. this is stupid. they should at least keep the old site running with just the music on it.

And MySpace doesn't have its share of generic shit?

fedhed7
12/04/05, 04:22 PM
Myspace is the Wal-Mart of the internet.

poppa Q
12/04/05, 04:24 PM
This gives AP.net a huge opportunity to step it up in the streaming of music; if the new PV.com flops, Jason Tate should prounce.

Trust
12/04/05, 04:25 PM
They're going to continue offering a good service that's music-centric. Myspace may be rocking the house, but it doesn't mean there isn't room in the biz for two competitors. I bet PV is doing juuust fine with their ad revenues. And this new system will make kids spend even more time there bc they can personalize their pages (albeit with some practical constraints -- besides, myspace fan pages give me seizures).
If pureVOLUME.com was doing "just fine" their traffic ranking (http://www.alexa.com/data/details/?url=purevolume.com) wouldn't have dropped from 138 to 2982 in the past month. ( I know Alexa isn't the most reliable thing in the world, but it's reliable enough to base an argument around). Pv.com's ranking is about even with PitchforkMedia.com right now... that's terrible. In my opinion, these new features are Purevolume.com's last stretch to keep themselves in existance. Also, calling Purevolume a "competitor" with Myspace is like calling my father's burger shop a competitor with Mcdonalds.

1check_1love
12/04/05, 04:29 PM
purevolume has always had those features. (except for the tagging and blogging)

lildevotionalx
12/04/05, 04:43 PM
Myspace is the Wal-Mart of the internet.
hahahaha.
i hope band pages load faster on macs now. at least on mine..
Mine too, that has been annoying me since I switched to a mac.

Jason Tate
12/04/05, 04:48 PM
Yikes. Those screen shots look a lot like what I was working on for our artists' profiles. (http://www.absolutepunk.net/artists/showlink.php?do=showdetails&l=1748&catid=2)

O well, I based mine off of ChosenOS, and we aren't trying to compete with Myspace or PV.com, I just want new ways for people to talk about bands - discover music - and document/database all of our favorites/features/etc. Our main focus will never change: latest news, newest bands - first.

thexflamesxburn
12/04/05, 04:50 PM
It looks like pureVOLUME.com (www.purevolume.com) is gearing up to launch their new Myspace.com-styled (http://backstage.purevolume.com/externals/listenerprofile-16sep.html) features.
dont you mean itunes ripoff features?

sweetmik
12/04/05, 04:53 PM
Godammit!!! You Fools!!! That Was Why Purevolume Was Awesome. Simplicity!!!!

xeroedhorizons
12/04/05, 04:56 PM
Purevolume players suck. They are very poor quality. The myspace players have fantastic quality. The only disadvantage to the myspace players is that they can not have more than 4 songs.

Trust
12/04/05, 05:01 PM
dont you mean itunes ripoff features?

"Friend Requests", "Add As Friend", "Messages", "Send Messages", "Comments", "View My Profile" "View Blog Posts" ... sounds more like Myspace.com to me.

suburbn_thrills
12/04/05, 05:04 PM
The simplicity of PV is what I liked about it; I really hope it doesn't become too cluttered. I hope the music is still their first priority.
I agree.
I want to be able to go just to listen to music...not to deal with friends and comments and messages.
I can't keep up with all these things turning into myspace.

BeerNSluts
12/04/05, 05:07 PM
Man thing I dislike about PV is the streaming quality. I know they are increasing it, but it better at least be 128kbps. I stream most of my stuff at 128 and it sounds 100% better than what they use as compression.

Frank Giaramita
12/04/05, 05:08 PM
"Friend Requests", "Add As Friend", "Messages", "Send Messages", "Comments", "View My Profile" "View Blog Posts" ... sounds more like Myspace.com to me.

Yeah, these new features use a lot of the same exact terms as Myspace.com does. Even if the features are different then what Myspace offers, the association is there strictly becuase of the naming.

predwhit77
12/04/05, 05:08 PM
ahhh

Sycro
12/04/05, 05:13 PM
The new PV site is UBER slow... I hope it speeds up with time.

nufan475
12/04/05, 05:18 PM
haha you have to be female to sign up for a profile!

HatShapedHat
12/04/05, 05:19 PM
The new PV site is UBER slow... I hope it speeds up with time.
Are you fuckin retarded?

That's a serious question btw.

SePaMc
12/04/05, 05:35 PM
Are you fuckin retarded?

That's a serious question btw.

ummm. the site is slow, in fact it just didn't even load for me....why does that make him retarded?

nufan475
12/04/05, 05:39 PM
I think the layout is awesome!

Trust
12/04/05, 05:41 PM
Are you fuckin retarded?

That's a serious question btw.

Are you retarded? I was able to take a shit (wipe my ass four times) and grab a glass of lemonade before this site finished loading.

Boring Pop Song
12/04/05, 05:48 PM
i don't like how you have to click a tab to find the plays, other than that, it seems pretty cool

They
12/04/05, 05:49 PM
Myspace is terrible. The band sites are pointless...who gives a FUCK about the people that write shit like "awesomez new songorzz guyzzz!" from a bunch of people that they dont even know, and probably wont ever see. Purevolume is amazing, fast, the music player has never ONCE not worked and I spend at least and hour a day researching bands. Its the best music site on the web, period....right now the site is pretty much crippled and not a good sign...the SPEED of PV was what I loved the most about it, also the fact that theres very little "trend" to it...the music of each band speaks for itself. I hope it stays that way

Frank Giaramita
12/04/05, 05:55 PM
Myspace is terrible. The band sites are pointless...who gives a FUCK about the people that write shit like "awesomez new songorzz guyzzz!" from a bunch of people that they dont even know, and probably wont ever see. Purevolume is amazing, fast, the music player has never ONCE not worked and I spend at least and hour a day researching bands. Its the best music site on the web, period.

In my opinion, Purevolume's streaming quality is absolutely horrendous, while Myspace's design/coding is a total mess. Your "who gives a fuck about comments..." statement is absolutely absurd. Of course bands dont "know" these people who leave them comments... I would say most bands probably don't personally know about 99.9% of their fans.

Read this (http://www.musicbiz.com/content.asp?page=/columns/gu arino/guarino.asp) article (all the way at the bottom). A guy did a study and came to the conclusion that for every ten plays a band gets on Myspace, it equals about 1 play on national radio (based on record sales)... that definetly doesn't fit my definition of "pointless". Although you may not like Myspace, don't discredit the power it has.

ForeverInADay
12/04/05, 06:00 PM
Man thing I dislike about PV is the streaming quality. I know they are increasing it, but it better at least be 128kbps. I stream most of my stuff at 128 and it sounds 100% better than what they use as compression.
stream quality is horrible

handmedownbuick
12/04/05, 06:01 PM
Myspace is terrible. The band sites are pointless...who gives a FUCK about the people that write shit like "awesomez new songorzz guyzzz!" from a bunch of people that they dont even know, and probably wont ever see. Purevolume is amazing, fast, the music player has never ONCE not worked and I spend at least and hour a day researching bands. Its the best music site on the web, period.

agreed: purevolume is awesome.. simple.. easy to use especially for someone like you who is researching bands all day or someone in ar- and also- when i just want to hear songs i for sure use pv simply becuase of the player.. loads quick as opposed to myspace which can take forever for me at least..

BUT... myspace is FAR from pointless.. especially if you are in a lesser known band. It is extremely easy to get your music heared in many places- If your trying to plan a tour, myspace makes it easy to find and contact other bands and promoters in different areas - if you need to promote a show in your area its key- once we played a show in connecticut, mind you we are from AC, NJ, and had to sell 30 tickets (it was with not so known bands) and it would have been tough to do without myspace..

just my 2 cents--

They
12/04/05, 06:05 PM
In my opinion, Purevolume's streaming quality is absolutely horrendous, while Myspace's design/coding is a total mess. Your "who gives a fuck about comments..." statement is absolutely absurd. Of course bands dont "know" these people who leave them comments... I would say most bands probably don't personally know about 99.9% of their fans.

Read this (http://www.musicbiz.com/content.asp?page=/columns/gu%20arino/guarino.asp) article (all the way at the bottom). A guy did a study and came to the conclusion that for every ten plays a band gets on Myspace, it equals about 1 play on national radio (based on record sales)... that definetly doesn't fit my definition of "pointless". Although you may not like Myspace, don't discredit the power it has.

I agree with the power it has and what it can do for a small band, the pointless statement was more in my opinion that I just like MUSIC. Thats it, thats all I want to do and thats why I love purevolume because its was a no-nonsense site for music enthusiasts. I guess I could have made my statement a little more clear, I dont for one minute underestimate the power Myspace has and what it has done for music in general...but I think Purevolume is music, Myspace is people.

JohnnyG
12/04/05, 06:09 PM
Is purevolume running slow or is it just my computer?

JohnnyG
12/04/05, 06:11 PM
Nevermind I saw my answer above.

Jason Tate
12/04/05, 06:11 PM
Not even loading for me .. *yawn* .. over it. I don't want to be internet friends with bands, I want to listen to the music.

FUNLIKEAGUN
12/04/05, 06:12 PM
this new PV will wont even load...i subscribe to the saying "if it aint broke don't fix it"

Imtheotherguy
12/04/05, 06:13 PM
i usually go myspace first, and when myspace's player doesnt work (which it usually doesnt) i am so thankful for purevolumes reliability.

KidLightning
12/04/05, 06:14 PM
Of course bands dont "know" these people who leave them comments... I would say most bands probably don't personally know about 99.9% of their fans..

I love being able to leave comments for and send messages to bands. Even if they hire someone to run their myspace for them, the band members themselves still have the option of signing in and checking out the messages and comments themselves, especially with lesser known bands.

In fact, I've had comments left for me by Paper Models and Action Reaction and even got a message from Jason of Action Reaction earlier today. Combining the utilization of sites like these with the ideas behind Cordless Recordings posted about earlier has me quite excited about the future of the music industry.

tommyhaych
12/04/05, 06:15 PM
this site is nowhere near mozilla friendly. When i try to sign up, that box is missing. But when i try to sign up on ie, I can only choose a 'female' gender.

Frank Giaramita
12/04/05, 06:17 PM
Purevolume is music, Myspace is people.

I can agree with this statement, however, it's implying "Purevolume is music... without the people". I know very few bands who would want to be involved with a website that isn't strongly focused around "people"...exposure is everything.

I love being able to leave comments for and send messages to bands. Even if they hire someone to run their myspace for them, the band members themselves still have the option of signing in and checking out the messages and comments themselves, especially with lesser known bands.
In fact, I've had comments left for me by Paper Models and Action Reaction and even got a message from Jason of Action Reaction earlier today. Combining the utilization of sites like these with the ideas behind Cordless Recordings posted about earlier has me quite excited about the future of the music industry.

I totally agree.

They
12/04/05, 06:20 PM
this site is nowhere near mozilla friendly. When i try to sign up, that box is missing. But when i try to sign up on ie, I can only choose a 'female' gender.

a nice touch.

kevinhagan
12/04/05, 06:23 PM
Are you retarded? I was able to take a shit (wipe my ass four times) and grab a glass of lemonade before this site finished loading.

amazing post. i laughed out loud, really loud.
and yea, i cant get it to work at all really.

OveriseFan
12/04/05, 06:26 PM
I totally agree.

Eh, I use AIM for that...

Because.

The bigger bands you won't be able to talk to via Myspace, or now purespace, and the smaller bands, it's so much better talking to them via AIM, it's so much more personal than email or one of those comment things.

tommyhaych
12/04/05, 06:26 PM
they have totally fucked this site up now. It took me like half an hour to be able to sign up. I kept getting the validation code wrong cause i couldnt see it and now I can't log in after i validated my account.

OveriseFan
12/04/05, 06:26 PM
a nice touch.

Hey, if I was female I'd be giving myself a nice touch too.

Ok, that was totally inappropriate...

billcom7
12/04/05, 06:27 PM
I need pictures off purevolume to finish some website design homework I have, but the damn thing wont load!

OveriseFan
12/04/05, 06:27 PM
This site won't even load for me, thanks a lot pureVOLUME, you fucked up again.

Frank Giaramita
12/04/05, 06:28 PM
Eh, I use AIM for that...

Because.

The bigger bands you won't be able to talk to via Myspace, or now purespace, and the smaller bands, it's so much better talking to them via AIM, it's so much more personal than email or one of those comment things.

AIM is too personal for me, I like communities (like this) where everything is public and open to everyone's input.

They
12/04/05, 06:31 PM
they have totally fucked this site up now. It took me like half an hour to be able to sign up. I kept getting the validation code wrong cause i couldnt see it and now I can't log in after i validated my account.

haha I know that thing was fucking cryptic! I had to tilt my notebook screen like all different ways to decipher the code...I thought maybe I had to stare at it like a Magic Eye book.

Sycro
12/04/05, 06:33 PM
Are you fuckin retarded?

That's a serious question btw.

Yes. I am "fuckin retarded" because the web site, when connected through a shared T1 line, takes 5 minutes to load the main page. The fact that it doesn't load at all for some people obviously proves that my statement about it being slow is retarded.

jfb392
12/04/05, 06:35 PM
Times out too much.
Nice resource management by PV on this one..

OveriseFan
12/04/05, 06:37 PM
AIM is too personal for me, I like communities (like this) where everything is public and open to everyone's input.

Ah, ok...

I love being personal with musicians. They're usually the nicest people (Minus a select few), and really do talk when they're not that big.

I'm good friends with some and I've never even met them.

KidLightning
12/04/05, 06:41 PM
Eh, I use AIM for that...

Because.

The bigger bands you won't be able to talk to via Myspace, or now purespace, and the smaller bands, it's so much better talking to them via AIM, it's so much more personal than email or one of those comment things.

The problem with AIM is that you have to be online at the same time...with comments and emails the messages are delivered whether you're online or not, and you have to purposely delete them instead of them just disappearing when they're closed.

And similar to what Frank said, the fact that AIM is completely private is something I don't feel goes well with the music scene. It needs to be more community based and the MySpace-style sites give it a chance to be more public. I've had plenty of friends check out new bands because they're friends of mine on MySpace.

theESCO
12/04/05, 06:42 PM
I really hope it's just because everyone is rushing to check out the new site, but it really is slow as hell. I tried to go to my profile as soon as I opened this thread, and it's still loading. It just seems really unnecessarily bulky.

Mitch
12/04/05, 06:54 PM
I got Armor for Sleeps part to work for me....The quality is pretty good for streaming, and the songs load fast as shit.

thexflamesxburn
12/04/05, 06:54 PM
i prefer purevolume over myspace music players... cause for some reason my school's internet cant load the myspace player songs.... so i really hope it doesnt go offline
i hate myspace players. i never listen to music on there. pv all the way.

HatShapedHat
12/04/05, 06:57 PM
Are you retarded? I was able to take a shit (wipe my ass four times) and grab a glass of lemonade before this site finished loading.
Thousands of people are hitting at once putting crazy stress on the server.

Learn something about the fucking internet.

cahrishurr
12/04/05, 07:00 PM
why the hell did PV change the site?

it did not need it
it looked fine
worked fine
everything

they FUCKED IT UP

OveriseFan
12/04/05, 07:02 PM
The problem with AIM is that you have to be online at the same time...with comments and emails the messages are delivered whether you're online or not, and you have to purposely delete them instead of them just disappearing when they're closed.

And similar to what Frank said, the fact that AIM is completely private is something I don't feel goes well with the music scene. It needs to be more community based and the MySpace-style sites give it a chance to be more public. I've had plenty of friends check out new bands because they're friends of mine on MySpace.

Well, in response to the last one, I wasn't talking about telling your friends.

I just mean becoming friends with bands, I usually just say something on AIM, and then we talk a while, then it just snowballs.

That can't happen with E-mail and Comments... with bands anyway.

OveriseFan
12/04/05, 07:02 PM
Thousands of people are hitting at once putting crazy stress on the server.

Learn something about the fucking internet.

Yea, and it's fucking annoying, I wanna see it and I can't.

dan.is.empire
12/04/05, 07:02 PM
i think this is one of the stupidest ideas ever.

myspace is there for the reason of having a profile and friends. if you want that, go there. not EVERY SITE ON THE INTERNET has to be for this reason.

Trust
12/04/05, 07:02 PM
Thousands of people are hitting at once putting crazy stress on the server.

Learn something about the fucking internet.
It's a Sunday night at 9:45pm EST... this is the slowest day of the week for websites (hence why Purevolume.com chose to do their little switch today). I find it VERY hard to believe Pv.com are even getting the same amount of hits right now (let alone more) then they do on a Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday or Thursday mid-afternoon. I'd be willing to bet my bottom dollar that more kids are drawn to Purevolume when Fall Out Boy or Underoath post a new song than when Purevolume.com adds a few new features (whoopdy doo).

(note: there would even be more pressure on the server(s) when a large band like FOB posts a new song because a massive amount of kids would be streaming the song... they handle that traffic fine. Right now, people aren't even streaming shit, just viewing the page.)

Learn something about fucking logic.

KidLightning
12/04/05, 07:06 PM
Well, in response to the last one, I wasn't talking about telling your friends.

I just mean becoming friends with bands, I usually just say something on AIM, and then we talk a while, then it just snowballs.

That can't happen with E-mail and Comments... with bands anyway.

yeah, i understand what you mean...and it can happen but it just takes more time...personally i have a hard time keeping up with most of my real friends, let alone having the time to become good friends with bands through the use of AIM so the community thing just works better for me.

Different strokes for different folks. It's a good thing we have the option and so I give credit to sites like MySpace, PureVolume and AbsolutePunk for giving people a start with getting involved in the "community" aspect of the scene.

dan.is.empire
12/04/05, 07:08 PM
yes. the site IS very slow.

FASSWcore
12/04/05, 07:09 PM
The simplicity of PV is what I liked about it; I really hope it doesn't become too cluttered. I hope the music is still their first priority.
yeah, i really don't want to see a "myspace of music" or something..

Sycro
12/04/05, 07:10 PM
Thousands of people are hitting at once putting crazy stress on the server.

Learn something about the fucking internet.

They should learn something about the internet. They should get servers with a larger bandwidth size. They should definitely have the ability to accept the number of hits they are getting if they want to be a successful website.

sizablescarsxx
12/04/05, 07:14 PM
" error'd. someone set us up the bomb! "

Am I the only person getting that message when I try to confirm my account?

dan.is.empire
12/04/05, 07:15 PM
this is rediculous. the confirmation link DOESNT WORK. eff this new feature crap.

Spicoli hey bud
12/04/05, 07:15 PM
I can't even get the homepage to load

resUrectMe617
12/04/05, 07:16 PM
i hate myspace, and i really hope that i don't grow to hate purevolume cause pv was fucking awesome the way it was before (although i do agree with some people that said the design itself needed a new face, not the purpose and priority).

ACA
12/04/05, 07:24 PM
" error'd. someone set us up the bomb! "

Am I the only person getting that message when I try to confirm my account?

You have no chance to survive make your time.

-ACA

Jason Tate
12/04/05, 07:32 PM
It's a Sunday night at 9:45pm EST... this is the slowest day of the week for websites (hence why Purevolume.com chose to do their little switch today). I find it VERY hard to believe Pv.com are even getting the same amount of hits right now (let alone more) then they do on a Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday or Thursday mid-afternoon. I'd be willing to bet my bottom dollar that more kids are drawn to Purevolume when Fall Out Boy or Underoath post a new song than when Purevolume.com adds a few new features (whoopdy doo).

(note: there would even be more pressure on the server(s) when a large band like FOB posts a new song because a massive amount of kids would be streaming the song... they handle that traffic fine. Right now, people aren't even streaming shit, just viewing the page.)

Learn something about fucking logic.
And with the servers and amount of money they pull in - they really shouldn't have an issue with traffic, there's most likely a bottle neck in some of the code .. that's the only reason it's doing what it's doing. O well, for once I don't have to troubleshoot something.

Our user/artist profiles are going to be a whole lot cooler anyways :P

cremesoda201
12/04/05, 07:35 PM
i don't see why people are complaining. if you don't like a website, don't go to it. it's not hard to understand a site getting thousands of signups within an hour is going to have some considerable lag.

personally, i like the new layout/features. sure, they may be taking some ideas from myspace. but i like it and it's nothing any other website doesn't have (even this one). if you don't want to sign up, don't. pv looks like they spend a lot of time making things work/look nice. myspace looks like a web-saavy elementery school kid made the layout.

A_Passing_Hero
12/04/05, 08:01 PM
you have to remember it just launched of course it has problems, every site does when they launch. Some features are probably offline right now. From what i've seen so far it looks and opperates a hell of a lot better then the old one did. If there is any site that can take on myspace it's purevolume and now that they have a better look then myspace it's going to be a battle, just gotta get the users now.

Ruggiero2oo8
12/04/05, 08:02 PM
i liked it before :shake:

Jason Tate
12/04/05, 08:12 PM
you have to remember it just launched of course it has problems, every site does when they launch. Some features are probably offline right now. From what i've seen so far it looks and opperates a hell of a lot better then the old one did. If there is any site that can take on myspace it's purevolume and now that they have a better look then myspace it's going to be a battle, just gotta get the users now.
It is no competition. Myspace to PV is like comparing PV to AP. It's a slaughter.

resUrectMe617
12/04/05, 08:19 PM
i don't see why people are complaining. if you don't like a website, don't go to it. it's not hard to understand a site getting thousands of signups within an hour is going to have some considerable lag.

personally, i like the new layout/features. sure, they may be taking some ideas from myspace. but i like it and it's nothing any other website doesn't have (even this one). if you don't want to sign up, don't. pv looks like they spend a lot of time making things work/look nice. myspace looks like a web-saavy elementery school kid made the layout.

well you'd totally be right in saying not to go to it... if i had never gone to it in the first place. of course if i've never been to purevolume, and i checked it out now and disliked it, i can easily just not go to it anymore. but purevolume has been a big database for me in terms of: finding new bands for personal tastes, for booking shows, etc. and i've been an avid fan for over 2+ years now. with all this fancy schmancy stuff going on (totally distracting from its original purpose of creation: music), i can complain and it is hard to pull myself away from it, or rather, adapt to it slowly.

Sureshot182
12/04/05, 08:21 PM
the layout and functions are better, i just hope they stick to what got them this far. purevolume and myspace are two of the most innovative creations of our time, especially for music.

cremesoda201
12/04/05, 08:23 PM
well you'd totally be right in saying not to go to it... if i had never gone to it in the first place. of course if i've never been to purevolume, and i checked it out now and disliked it, i can easily just not go to it anymore. but purevolume has been a big database for me in terms of: finding new bands for personal tastes, for booking shows, etc. and i've been an avid fan for over 2+ years now. with all this fancy schmancy stuff going on (totally distracting from its original purpose of creation: music), i can complain and it is hard to pull myself away from it, or rather, adapt to it slowly.

yeah i agree. i'll flip if they start making you login to listen to music/etc.

Jason Tate
12/04/05, 08:27 PM
the layout and functions are better, i just hope they stick to what got them this far. purevolume and myspace are two of the most innovative creations of our time, especially for music.
MP3.com and Frienster/makeoutclub would be kinda pissed. Seeing as .. well, those were the "originals" of both creations.

I still can't get PV.com to even load for me .. so, I dunno what it's like yet. I still think AP's going to shock some zines this coming year with what we have going...

cahrishurr
12/04/05, 08:50 PM
i still dont understand why the site cant just be about the music and not about friends and all that extra bullshit

AbsentTruth
12/04/05, 08:57 PM
I like the new layout :thumbsup:

blindluck13
12/04/05, 09:02 PM
Here is an interesting fact, im willing to bet, none of you know.. the people at PV can manually change the number of plays and views you have.. how about that.. so its not even real.. its all how much money someone is probably willing to shell out. its always about the money with them. so it was never a really reliable music site to begin with..

Trust
12/04/05, 09:03 PM
It is no competition. Myspace to PV is like comparing PV to AP. It's a slaughter.
Yeah, I don't think people understand that Myspace.com has everything from hip hop fans, to country fans, to 35 year old Moms to circus clown freak homosexuals on it. PV.com appeals (generally) to the "scene" rock bands/fans. A lot of the people on Myspace probably have no clue what the hell Purevolume.com even is.

If Pv.com wish to compete with Myspace, they'd literally have to tear the website down, totally start over and aim for age groups of all kinds... as well as market the hell out of themselves and come up with some completely innovative ideas.

kallok
12/04/05, 09:16 PM
I miss the good old days of mp3.com, that was the best.... along with napster. now both suck.

Jason Tate
12/04/05, 09:22 PM
Here is an interesting fact, im willing to bet, none of you know.. the people at PV can manually change the number of plays and views you have.. how about that.. so its not even real.. its all how much money someone is probably willing to shell out. its always about the money with them. so it was never a really reliable music site to begin with..
True statement. Of course, any website can do that ... I mean, I could give you 3 million posts right now if I wanted. Of course, I'd want a million bucks to do it. Haha.

Trevor Sostarich
12/04/05, 09:54 PM
MP3.com and Frienster/makeoutclub would be kinda pissed. Seeing as .. well, those were the "originals" of both creations.

I still can't get PV.com to even load for me .. so, I dunno what it's like yet. I still think AP's going to shock some zines this coming year with what we have going...It won't load for me neither. Damn the internet. Damn it all.

CyberInferno
12/04/05, 10:13 PM
I hope they don't change anything about the PurePlayer.
I want to still be able to rip music without doing a stereo mix rip.
Nope, it's still cached the same way as I refer to in my guide (http://www.absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?p=2069408#post206940 8).

infamous_alias
12/04/05, 10:21 PM
Nope, it's still cached the same way as I refer to in my guide (http://www.absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?p=2069408#post206940 8).

Saweeeeet! Now I just need pv to load the effing flash player!

tragedyco
12/04/05, 10:36 PM
purevolume is too slooooowwwwwww.

(+)DemiaN(+)
12/04/05, 11:24 PM
Purevolume is so much better than myspace there is no way to compare. Myspace is for internet addicts, purevolume for music lovers. At least, that's how I see it. Anyway, sign to the new purevolume and make them the first music site! ;)

Seans9
12/04/05, 11:43 PM
i hope band pages load faster on macs now. at least on mine..

i have the same problem. dont use safari for pv stuff. ive noticed it makes it a lot slower.

matt_rawlings
12/05/05, 02:19 AM
i prefer purevolume over myspace music players... cause for some reason my school's internet cant load the myspace player songs.... so i really hope it doesnt go offline

My university is exactly the same and unfortunatly purevolume now has this problem as well..

Fuck! Purevolume was the website I went on and listened to shit loads of awesome music for the first time while I was pretending to resemble a competent student at my uni....no more!

xTJx
12/05/05, 06:27 AM
I've found that the loading time of songs is much quicker than the old version...but I do dislike the 'friend' and 'comment' sections

1000shadesofred
12/05/05, 07:03 AM
is anyone else having problems creating an account as a listener... e.g.: typing in the correct password and saying your account doesnt exist, or typing in the correct validation code thing and it saying you typed in the incorrect one??

ntingley
12/05/05, 07:23 AM
i think the new change is pretty cool..i just hope you can continue to play as many songs as you want unlike the 4 songs you can put on your myspace

she cant swim!
12/05/05, 07:34 AM
its quite cool

/jameshollingworth

HeadSock
12/05/05, 08:10 AM
I didnt check because of the length of this discussion, but was anyone forced to sign up as a female? For the "Sex" there was no male option....

emocore
12/05/05, 08:51 AM
it's slow as hell. everyone and their cousin is probly on there right now.

sgbrian
12/05/05, 08:54 AM
Its kinda sad how it is turning into a myspace nation pure volume was sweet before they had no reason to change it. i cant stand it.

sgbrian
12/05/05, 08:56 AM
My predictions-

1) These new features will totally flop because it doesn't seemt o provide people with anything fresh, new or innovative that Myspace hasn't already covered.

2) pureVOLUME.com will be offline and out of business by Summer '06... as Myspace.com continues to grow and kill them.


yeah except for the fact of how many ppl hate myspace

CheChe1455
12/05/05, 08:56 AM
shitty shitty shitty
it's way tooooooo cluttered and slow...
good job assholes.

duffe
12/05/05, 09:13 AM
There is a problem connecting to the database.

bluekey
12/05/05, 10:44 AM
http://virb.com/ will probably be pv's answer to myspace.

pvs player is beter because a. it works like 300% more of the time than myspace's b. it can play through a playlist as opposed to one song

maybe pv added these features so that bands dont have to have a pv and myspace page, they can do it all at pv now.

bubbles
12/05/05, 10:56 AM
i cant get on still

Frank Giaramita
12/05/05, 11:51 AM
yeah except for the fact of how many ppl hate myspace
The amoun tof people that hate Myspace.com are relatively nothing compared to the amont that love it. Myspace is right up there with Google, Amazon.com and Aol.com with hits.

41,487,322 people have profiles on Myspace.com right now... FOURTY ONE MILLION +

bubbles
02/04/10, 06:32 PM
this was around the time i left...and the site went to *insert your own opinion of its current state*