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The Scene Is NOT Dead... But Let It Live Long Anyway...
The Scene Is NOT Dead... But Let It Live Long Anyway...
01/17/09 at 09:48 AM by npmshah
Recently, AP.net user anamericangod posted a rant about how the scene is dead. Even though i can see his point, and completely respect his opinion, i feel compelled to declare that the scene is not indeed dead. It is, however, very much alive. The passion is there, the heart is there, the only thing different is that we make the music with a heavy emphaisis on a new instrument: the computer program. All this negative reaction and declarations of the "scene is dead" is because old "purists" are not as willing to embrace a new style of music for a new generation. And that is completely understandable. I am 100% sure that the earlier fans of TBS, JEW, and THursday had to endure the same proclomations of a "dead" scene when they started coming into their own.read more]
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09:54 AM on 01/17/09
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i don't think people reject electronic music. most people here love the postal service. when people use catchy computer generated beats instead of something original or heartfelt, there's a problem.

i agree with some points from your argument though, and some from anamericangod's
12:24 PM on 01/17/09
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People aren't rejecting innovation, but what you're painting as innovation isn't. It's kids who don't know how to play music using a computer as a crutch.
12:33 PM on 01/17/09
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Originally Posted by Jeff9898
i don't think people reject electronic music. most people here love the postal service. when people use catchy computer generated beats instead of something original or heartfelt, there's a problem.

i agree with some points from your argument though, and some from anamericangod's
the postal service where one of the first few bands who did what they did
so anything they did wouldve been considered original...
im just saying that these bands need to mature
a key example: PATDs first album was laced with electronica while the second was uberly stripped down
08:57 PM on 01/17/09
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Thursday's first record did not have a song about Shaking It.

What a fucking idiot.
07:17 PM on 01/18/09
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Originally Posted by sweetfootaction
Thursday's first record did not have a song about Shaking It.

What a fucking idiot.
hahaha
nice to know your so strongly opinionated
what im saying here is that times are changing...
Metro Station came from a music family
and had close proximity to different themes of music
so they chose a theme that is about partying and Shaking it... so what?
am i saying i agree with it? absolutely not
what im saying is that theres a new generation of bands out there that like it or not are getting big on their music and lyrics these days
im sure there were bands even back than that had lyrics on the smae scale of immaturity as Metro Station
but the main question: do they have lasting power like Thursday, who have headlined Taste Of Chaos twice?
are they gonna be good enough to wrtie a second album
and the main question: if they do write a new album, will they mature?
persoanlly, i think they can write more mature stuff
because i doubt theyll be considered anywhere near rock/alternative for much longer if they continues to write the way they do...
12:21 AM on 08/21/09
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A musical scenes life span is cyclical, every ten or so years one is slowly replaced by another and the world keeps turning. While this is the nature of music (and musical tastes) one can't help but notice that this time around it's not just the music thats changing but the quality of musicianship being put forward. Synthesizers and computer generated beats have become the crutch for the untalented, a tool for those who are unwilling to work through the endless nights required to master an instrument. Computers are the grail for instant gratification. While I agree and do believe that computers will have an inevitably large role in the way music is viewed and distributed they should not substitute as an actual instrument.

Why should we indulge a trend just because it's the alleged "next big thing"? Progression is not mutually exclusive to what is right and to what should be accepted. We are witnessing a diminishing passion in some musicians; a waning consciousness, a fuller wallet. It's sad to see but it's undeniable clear. Yes, music has evolved as it always has but this time something is missing.

There has always been shitty bands no matter the time or place, they have come and gone as nothing more but small blips on the radar. They disappeared because people demanded more from their music, they expected an experience, apiece of art that would evoke an emotion or a thought. The bar for what fans have grown to expect has been lowered and as a result music has followed suit. I'm not upset because there are more synths found in music now ( I dislike it but I'm not upset by it) I'm upset because of the attitudes of some current musicians and their fans. They lack the sense of integrity and genuine musicianship that made (and still occasionally makes) music great. Instead of hearing about a mans moral outcry against war we get some douche in shutter glasses screaming about getting laid or getting wasted. It's not the music that bothers me but the content and attitude commonly associated by it.

All I'm saying is that your argument of just gradually accepting whatever is new just because things change is invalid and a total over simplification of a much bigger problem. The "purists" (while some of them are just afraid of change) see not just a change in sound or medium but a change in attitude. How can a band like Brokencyde get any better if the foundation they were built upon is made up of cliche techno beats and contrived lyrical structures?
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