AbsolutePunk.net

AbsolutePunk.net (http://www.absolutepunk.net/forum.php)
-  Album Reviews (http://www.absolutepunk.net/forumdisplay.php?f=166)
  -  Breathe Carolina - Hello Fascination (http://www.absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=1276602)

foreverSWEET 08/21/09 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drew Beringer (Post 52180322)
That's like saying I rather have brown poop than green poop.

Quite honestly, this is all a matter of opinion. It's well and known that a majority of people on the website abhor this genre, and for good reason. Breathe Carolina, I like. So sue me? It is, again, all opinion based. Just because I listen to the neon doesn't mean my iPod is devoid of any of the music people on here would deem "worth" listening to. I think the review could have been written in a tad bit better taste, for the sole purpose of being a music review, (mostly) impartial to bias, instead of an excuse to make fun of a band who (in my opinion) are not "making fun" of music -- they honestly enjoy what they do. EDIT: I've seen you write great reviews, so I know you're capable :-p

TriangularDuck 08/21/09 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drew Beringer (Post 52180272)
Are you sure? Maybe you should put on "Tripped and Fell" and tell me about the screaming throughout the song, or maybe "The Dressing Room." There is a lot of screaming on this. And I spent more than a sentence on the music. I actually only spent one sentence on their marketing though, their "image" (even though all I mention is a neon coffin), and I did spend a few sentences on their fans because I don't understand what's so appealing about this band or genre. But that's just me, I don't really care if people dislike this review.

Tripped and Fell is the "heaviest" song on the album, so it's fairly fitting that there's a lot of screaming. I never said anything about that song not having much screaming. The Dressing Room has a background scream or eight, but it's barely scream-driven. I'll concede that point, I shouldn't have used that as an example of less screaming, should have used Take Me To Infinity that has a scream buried in the background of the mix when the chorus hits. Or Can I Take You Home, which I just listened through, and has a few segments that might be a scream, or might be a synth hit. I really can't tell, betting on synth hit because there's background vocals there. Sorry I don't have the time to listen through an album when making a reply to a review.

The songs on It's Classy, Not Classic were almost all "scream driven." Listen to a song like The Birds and the Bees, where the chorus swaps lines with the screamer and the singer. When does that happen on this album? Are you sure you listened to the right album?

asteria 08/21/09 08:16 AM

Well now if I ever get bored and decide to fuck a scene girl just for the hell of it, I can play this music and their clothes will immediately come off.

Thanks Drew! I'm going to get some ass because of your review!

raptorz44 08/21/09 08:19 AM

haha great review drew.

Supernovacaine 08/21/09 08:19 AM

I think there's nothing wrong with the review, its spot on. Anything more to say would just be a regurgitated form of previous sentences. Kinda like preparing a lovely dinner and getting all dressed up to invite over a chick you have zero interest in; unnecessary effort.

Drew Beringer 08/21/09 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TriangularDuck (Post 52180622)
Tripped and Fell is the "heaviest" song on the album, so it's fairly fitting that there's a lot of screaming. I never said anything about that song not having much screaming. The Dressing Room has a background scream or eight, but it's barely scream-driven. I'll concede that point, I shouldn't have used that as an example of less screaming, should have used Take Me To Infinity that has a scream buried in the background of the mix when the chorus hits. Or Can I Take You Home, which I just listened through, and has a few segments that might be a scream, or might be a synth hit. I really can't tell, betting on synth hit because there's background vocals there. Sorry I don't have the time to listen through an album when making a reply to a review.

The songs on It's Classy, Not Classic were almost all "scream driven." Listen to a song like The Birds and the Bees, where the chorus swaps lines with the screamer and the singer. When does that happen on this album? Are you sure you listened to the right album?

I never said that the singer and the screamer swap lines at all. I wrote that there are "background screams" which there are. It's whiny vocals with back ground screams.

TriangularDuck 08/21/09 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supernovacaine (Post 52180802)
I think there's nothing wrong with the review, its spot on. Anything more to say would just be a regurgitated form of previous sentences. Kinda like preparing a lovely dinner and getting all dressed up to invite over a chick you have zero interest in; unnecessary effort.

Reviewing something you don't like is often times harder than reviewing something you do like. It's easy to gush, but it's hard to put your words down to paper for something you don't like and still do a good job, unless you're a novelty act like thousands of Youtube reviewers who shout at their computers about how shitty something is. Trust me. I had to review Charlie's Angels for the Gamecube.

TriangularDuck 08/21/09 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drew Beringer (Post 52180932)
I never said that the singer and the screamer swap lines at all. I wrote that there are "background screams" which there are. It's whiny vocals with back ground screams.

So then, what about the songs where the screams take center focus, like Tripped and Fell, Hello Fascination, or I Have To Return Some Video Tapes? Those aren't background screams.

handlikesecret 08/21/09 08:33 AM

awesome review. anyone who is looking for a decent review of garbage like this is looking in the wrong place. i'd suggest you check out some of the iTunes reviews.

willvc 08/21/09 08:34 AM

Perfect review.

Drew Beringer 08/21/09 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TriangularDuck (Post 52181082)
So then, what about the songs where the screams take center focus, like Tripped and Fell, Hello Fascination, or I Have To Return Some Video Tapes? Those aren't background screams.

So you've gone from "there aren't many screams" to "what about the screams on such and such songs." Which is it? Regardless, the screams are awful whether they are background or foreground (the majority of which are background).

CellarGhosts 08/21/09 08:44 AM

Good review, but 23% is still way too high. Ha.

TriangularDuck 08/21/09 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drew Beringer (Post 52181892)
So you've gone from "there aren't many screams" to "what about the screams on such and such songs." Which is it? Regardless, the screams are awful whether they are background or foreground (the majority of which are background).

I said when they're present, they're much more suited for the songs. The songs where the screaming appears are the more aggressive tracks. The lighter tracks have little to no screams, the more aggressive, hard-hitting songs have much more prevalent screams. I'd call Hello Fascination, I'm the Type of Person to Take Things Personal, I Have to Return Some Video Tapes, and Tripped and Fell in Portland the heaviest tracks on the album, and they also have the most screaming. The lighter tracks have little to no screaming, and when the screaming appears, it's usually marked with a switch in sound (My Obsession). To use your example before, when the screaming section begins in The Dressing Room, it's marked by the entrance of chugging guitars. And, objectively, as a screamer who's been working on his scream for 8 years, the screams are not bad at all. Nothing amazing though, but the "Nobody make a move, everybody on the ground" section of I'm the Type of Person... are fairly impressive, and he can pull it off live too.

p, FRY 08/21/09 08:53 AM

this is like banging your head against a brick wall.

fantastic review - perfectly suited to the type of music its describing. it deserved nothing more.

Gregory Robson 08/21/09 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by inthemidst (Post 52179882)
The reason that this bashing is true is because "bands" like these are insulting to the scene. I believe in the right to market your "art" freely, but I also reserve the right to criticize something that has a mass appeal that doesn't deserve it. I don't necessarily believe that Drew wanted to send a negative review just for the hell of it, but I believe that he honestly analyzed the album, and found it extremely trite and lacking any kind of artistic appeal.

I beg to differ. But to each their own.