thanks for the love mel!
-btt

agreed.

between the trees though. heck yeah, theyve been my ringtone for a few months now. puts me in a good mood everytime i get a call.

it sucks park broke up

no rookie of the year? www.myspace.com/rookieoftheyear serious?

I was curious if you could explain to me how Cute Is What We Aim For or Panic! sold out? They are both new bands on Fueled by, correct? This is just what they are. Panic! comes from Las Vegas, and I think that explains why they perform, instead of just sing, not to mention their live show is truly incredible. But selling out seems to be an inaccurate term. You might dislike them, even hate, but I don't believe they have sold out. I mean, I am assuming you never were implying that they were disappointing albums, because that too would be curious...How much did you expect from them if that was the case...

Thanks - Not trying to start a fight, just confused.

Re-issuing an album several different times (I'll also point out that this album only came out Winter 2005) just to get money from their fans isn't selling out? Telling a girl you can't date her because you're famous and have to be single isn't being an asshole and selling out? Having your album sound completely different from what the demos you released pre-signing because you'll make more money and gain the MTV crowd isn't selling out?

Park at #1? I like your moxie, girl. You have a good list. Me like.

Two things...

1. I don't know anything about the, "got to be single, to be famous, asshole" stuff. If that is true, than yes, that is rude. Not really selling out. Still, I'd argue, that it probably does make sense to be single on the road and two, whoever did this, is not alone. I'd bet some other members of bands have done similar things, maybe even some of your favorites. I do not know how you heard of this either, if it wasn't straight from the source or if you weren't there watching to hear it, the story may have been misrepresented by now.

2. Then, this demo thing. I actually know what you're talking about here. I was a little upset about it, because I liked the demos (but didn't dislike the new versions either); I happened to have heard of them by the September before their record came out. But the songs were just barely changed and were cleaned up through production...Is that selling out...sure, in a form of the word of course. But calling them out on it while forgetting all the countless other bands who have changed demos to cleaner versions (for radio and public purposes) seems ridiculously unfair. Panic!, even with the original demos, would have been a for sure hit. A MTV hit. I actually think both versions of Nails are great, anyways. The first is a slower, seeming acoustic at times, but still enjoyable. It makes sense to have changed it too, to go along with the rest of their albums feel and outlook.

Thanks, I appreciate genuine talks about music.

The band's milked their catalog dry - and siphoned every penny from their fans they can off this one release. Selling a "box set" for 50$ - can only, ONLY, be described as selling out.

park fucking broke up?

I am not saying I disagree, but I do wonder, if it were their sophomore or later album, would it be acceptable to sell a box set? Or is that price high (I am not familar with pricing off the top of my head for box sets)? I feel like most bands put out things like this, rehashing albums and songs. No one forces the fans to repurchase. The fans should make a point and stop buying these things and then they will stop being marketed. If their wasn't a market for them then they wouldn't be available.

They haven't even been around long enough to be able to even give a thought to a box set. Beatles? Yes. Rolling Stone? Yes. Motley Crue? Sure. Nirvana? Alright. Weezer? Okay. Panic! At the Disco? Hell no. I've had goldfish that have lived longer than their entire music career.

I can neither confirm nor deny this one anymore.

There's no doubt you are right.

My point is, it is not uncommon for bands to reissue. Say Anything did. You'll argue it had more songs, and then I'd argue Panic!'s boxset has a full length concert of all their songs plus two covers. I'd bet if you look hard enough, most bands do it (reissue music to fans). Is a box set over the top, sure. But the point is, the industry is always looking to suck more money from the fans...the fans need to take a stand. And it's not just Panic! who is doing it. Does that make it right? Of course not, but picking on them and ignoring the industry trend seems odd because so many others do the same, in some form or another.

Probably Gatsby's.