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weworemasks 09/26/11 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by GIVEupyourGHSTx (Post 95492032)
this review is shit because its from the perspective of another asshole hoping for another dude ranch or chesire cat...looking for the true punk-blink, mark thru hearts all gone on there, be happy with that... this cd was far better than i expected, wayyy better than the self-titled, prolly better than toypanj... i dnt even kno how you came up with 5.9 ... clearly ur mother n father were related.... album is a 9/10 at the very absolute LEAST... fking box... as stated earlier i dont even kno how this is on the home page.


iT mUsT bE hArD lIviNg in NeW hAvEn, Ct.!

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Originally Posted by DylanPPPP (Post 95492802)
If I were to read this without listening to the album, I would have no idea what most of the songs sound like/the overall grasp of the album...you basically just said it sounds too much like AvA and it's boring and you don't like it.


oh well, i guess. sorry i didn't describe each song. i personally find those reviews boring, so to each his own.

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Originally Posted by hello299 (Post 95492962)
The review was actually pretty good IMO. Disagree with some of the criticism in it, but thought it was solidly written.


finally! thanks.

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Originally Posted by Nolessthanblink (Post 95494312)
I was around on this website when it came out. I believe I joined as a member in 2005, but I had been on here since right before TOYPAJ came out. Haha. So to assume that I wasn't on ap around tat time is just silly. How is Blink "trying too hard"? I HATE that idea. They'd probably have to try harder to write the same old poo poo pee pee songs about girls as near men in their mid-late 30s than they do to have to write more "serious" music. And just because the lyrical content is "different" doesn't mean it's HALF as good as s/t.

And the middle school comment had nothing to do with your ideas in the review. It had to do with the poor writing style/structure that you used in an attempt to convey your ideas. You GRADUATED WITH A DEGREE IN JOURNALISM Lol? No way I believe that dude. At all. Your writing style is MAYBE at a tenth grade level, and definitely not that of a college graduate (unless Houston's writing program is a complete joke). I guess it's fitting that you workED (past tense) at that paper though... And I'm not just some "jerkoff" on ap.net. I have a BA in education, and am currently a teacher, so believe me, I know what good writing is, and you may not be a bad writer, but this is an EXTREMELY poorly written review, and that has nothing to do with your ideas or views on the record differing from mine.


i think it's half as good, you don't. simple.

and it's past tense (workED) because i got laid off (budget cuts, they didn't want to pay any current students without BAs, etc), not because i was bad. thanks for being as condescending as possible, but i'm still pretty content with my writing capabilities.

MALKiiN 09/26/11 02:57 PM

this record did not exceed the low expectations i had for it

Jason Tate 09/26/11 02:58 PM

Can we at least fix this:

Lead single “Up All Night” was more AVA than Blink, and didn’t go over as well as “Hearts All Gone,” the beefy and energetic follow-up single, but anticipation and expectations for the record never faltered.

1) The song is the #3 song on alt radio and the video is over 2m views. The song has gone over very well.

2) "After Midnight" is the next single.

StephenYoung 09/26/11 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by GIVEupyourGHSTx (Post 95492032)
this review is shit because its from the perspective of another asshole hoping for another dude ranch or chesire cat...looking for the true punk-blink, mark thru hearts all gone on there, be happy with that... this cd was far better than i expected, wayyy better than the self-titled, prolly better than toypanj... i dnt even kno how you came up with 5.9 ... clearly ur mother n father were related.... album is a 9/10 at the very absolute LEAST... fking box... as stated earlier i dont even kno how this is on the home page.

This post makes me dislike the album just a little bit more.

DylanPPPP 09/26/11 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by themostdeplete (Post 95494572)
iT mUsT bE hArD lIviNg in NeW hAvEn, Ct.!



oh well, i guess. sorry i didn't describe each song. i personally find those reviews boring, so to each his own.



finally! thanks.



i think it's half as good, you don't. simple.

and it's past tense (workED) because i got laid off (budget cuts, they didn't want to pay any current students without BAs, etc), not because i was bad. thanks for being as condescending as possible, but i'm still pretty content with my writing capabilities.

You don't need to describe each song in depth, but touching on more than two with a worthwhile comment goes a long way.

Nolessthanblink 09/26/11 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by themostdeplete (Post 95494572)



i think it's half as good, you don't. simple.

and it's past tense (workED) because i got laid off (budget cuts, they didn't want to pay any current students without BAs, etc), not because i was bad. thanks for being as condescending as possible, but i'm still pretty content with my writing capabilities.



WHY do you think it's half as good? please, explain this to me. I just feel you wrote this review without much knowledge of the album. Almost like you wrote it based off of what you READ about the album, not what your thoughts were after actually hearing it.

And that sucks about the budget cut. I'm sorry about that. I feel your pain (big budget cuts happened for education here in TX last year too), as several of my close friends were let go due to budget cuts this past summer... But never be content man, always try to get better. :-)

Jay Sean Fenris 09/26/11 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by StephenYoung (Post 95494852)
This post makes me dislike the album just a little bit more.

That's how I felt. It was already pretty down there too.

weworemasks 09/26/11 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DylanPPPP (Post 95494932)
You don't need to describe each song in depth, but touching on more than two with a worthwhile comment goes a long way.

up all night - said it sounded more ava
heart's all gone - said it was good
ghost on the dancefloor/love is dangerous - uninspired/boring
kaleidoscope/natives - band sounds great, good songs, etc
snake charmer/mh 4.18 - uneventful and aimless

i mentioned 8/14 songs. i'd say that's pretty good.

DylanPPPP 09/26/11 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by themostdeplete (Post 95495082)
up all night - said it sounded more ava
heart's all gone - said it was good
ghost on the dancefloor/love is dangerous - uninspired/boring
kaleidoscope/natives - band sounds great, good songs, etc
snake charmer/mh 4.18 - uneventful and aimless

i mentioned 8/14 songs. i'd say that's pretty good.

Yeah but you didn't say anything about them really worth knowing.

weworemasks 09/26/11 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Nolessthanblink (Post 95494972)
WHY do you think it's half as good? please, explain this to me. I just feel you wrote this review without much knowledge of the album. Almost like you wrote it based off of what you READ about the album, not what your thoughts were after actually hearing it.

And that sucks about the budget cut. I'm sorry about that. I feel your pain (big budget cuts happened for education here in TX last year too), as several of my close friends were let go due to budget cuts this past summer... But never be content man, always try to get better. :-)

overall, i think a lot of the songs are boring and have no real relevance or importance in the grand scheme of music. i can still listen to songs on the self-titled and feel what those songs were supposed to mean. i can visualize the videos for "violence" and "i miss you" and put memories to those songs.

these songs feel phoned in and pointless, and seemed like a studio battle of which band would shine through: ava or blink. in songs that i mentioned, ava came out. i hate ava. what is the important and the weight of a song like "snake charmer," or "mh 4.18.2011." sure they COULD be catchy at best, but the song's not really speaking to me.

overall, it just felt flat, but this isn't to take away from the actual great songs on here.

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Originally Posted by DylanPPPP (Post 95495152)
Yeah but you didn't say anything about them really worth knowing.


next time i write a review, i'll consult you before posting my opinions. deal?

Nolessthanblink 09/26/11 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by themostdeplete (Post 95495182)
overall, i think a lot of the songs are boring and have no real relevance or importance in the grand scheme of music. i can still listen to songs on the self-titled and feel what those songs were supposed to mean. i can visualize the videos for "violence" and "i miss you" and put memories to those songs.

these songs feel phoned in and pointless, and seemed like a studio battle of which band would shine through: ava or blink. in songs that i mentioned, ava came out. i hate ava. what is the important and the weight of a song like "snake charmer," or "mh 4.18.2011." sure they COULD be catchy at best, but the song's not really speaking to me.

overall, it just felt flat, but this isn't to take away from the actual great songs on here.


Well you can't put memories to these new songs yet cause they've only been out for two weeks (aside from the previous 4 that were played prior to the leak). Give it time and I'm sure you'll make memories with these songs as well. I remember I HATED Violence when s/t came out and after a few months it became one of my favorites. Hopefully that'll be the case with you and this record.

Read the interview with Chris Holmes when it's posted on here; I'm sure it will provide a pretty good look at what the recording process was actually like. And don't think of AVA or your hate for them when you listen to the new record. Listen to the songs for what they are; Blink 182. Btw, the main riff in Snake Charmer sounds rather similar to an AVA song... ;-)

Jason Tate 09/26/11 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by themostdeplete (Post 95495182)
overall, i think a lot of the songs are boring and have no real relevance or importance in the grand scheme of music. i can still listen to songs on the self-titled and feel what those songs were supposed to mean. i can visualize the videos for "violence" and "i miss you" and put memories to those songs.

these songs feel phoned in and pointless, and seemed like a studio battle of which band would shine through: ava or blink. in songs that i mentioned, ava came out. i hate ava. what is the important and the weight of a song like "snake charmer," or "mh 4.18.2011." sure they COULD be catchy at best, but the song's not really speaking to me.

overall, it just felt flat, but this isn't to take away from the actual great songs on here.



next time i write a review, i'll consult you before posting my opinions. deal?

You've had 7 years to put memories to the S/T album. Assuming a new album is going to give you anywhere close to the same feeling is just, for lack of a better word ... wrong.

Again, I think the biggest problem with this review is you thinking you know what happened, for example, in the studio (or the motivations of the writers) - and making assumptions based on that. These are not statements about the music or the album -- they're just assumptions. And when we get to the part where you're reviewing a song based upon guessed assumptions of the writers? That ... well, that's not a review. It's just a guess. And if you really think they phoned it in ... watch Mark talk about recording the album, they most certainly did not "phone it in" - and that's completely obvious from the passion in which he talks about the recording process for these songs.

HometownHero 09/26/11 03:21 PM

Thought the review was good. I just enjoyed it more.

luv u

CastlesXClouds 09/26/11 03:28 PM


weworemasks 09/26/11 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Nolessthanblink (Post 95495452)
Well you can't put memories to these new songs yet cause they've only been out for two weeks (aside from the previous 4 that were played prior to the leak). Give it time and I'm sure you'll make memories with these songs as well. I remember I HATED Violence when s/t came out and after a few months it became one of my favorites. Hopefully that'll be the case with you and this record.

Read the interview with Chris Holmes when it's posted on here; I'm sure it will provide a pretty good look at what the recording process was actually like. And don't think of AVA or your hate for them when you listen to the new record. Listen to the songs for what they are; Blink 182. Btw, the main riff in Snake Charmer sounds rather similar to an AVA song... ;-)


blink has never been the band that has songs "grow" on me. for my own judgment, they've always been a band where everything was on the surface. i've dissected this albums in 10 listens and a lot of it just doesn't sit or stick with me.

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Originally Posted by Jason Tate (Post 95495462)
You've had 7 years to put memories to the S/T album. Assuming a new album is going to give you anywhere close to the same feeling is just, for lack of a better word ... wrong.

Again, I think the biggest problem with this review is you thinking you know what happened, for example, in the studio (or the motivations of the writers) - and making assumptions based on that. These are not statements about the music or the album -- they're just assumptions. And when we get to the part where you're reviewing a song based upon guessed assumptions of the writers? That ... well, that's not a review. It's just a guess. And if you really think they phoned it in ... watch Mark talk about recording the album, they most certainly did not "phone it in" - and that's completely obvious from the passion in which he talks about the recording process for these songs.


you're definitely right about the 7 years part. but at the same time, i was immediately attached to that album after my first listen. granted, my musical tastes are nowhere near the same as they were in november 2003, but the sentiment was there. and maybe it wasn't phoned in - but i definitely feel like some of these songs lack the "punch" that a lot of s/t's songs had. i hate to be the guy comparing a 7 year old album with one that comes out tomorrow, but they definitely didn't stray genre-wise, and i feel like it's somewhat fair.

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Originally Posted by CastlesXClouds (Post 95496242)


so good. best post.