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Young Machetes 01/17/12 05:40 AM

Much, much better than their previous records in my opinion. That being said, this could have been put into an EP until Feldman could produce the full length.

ChaplainTappman 01/17/12 06:10 AM

Is this still a Christian band or is that over?

iseejosh 01/17/12 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by ChaplainTappman (Post 101322742)
Is this still a Christian band or is that over?

way over, at least with this album and its lyrics

Supernovacaine 01/17/12 06:29 AM

yeah its a pretty boring album.. one or two okay songs, but for the most part they all sound the same

TheRealJohnOC 01/17/12 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by ChaplainTappman (Post 101322742)
Is this still a Christian band or is that over?

They were Christian? lol

TheRealJohnOC 01/17/12 06:52 AM

I thought this album was going to be the first one of theirs to break that 50 mark. Close but no cigar!

Edit: Apparently their debut scored a 51! Woops!

get up kidd 01/17/12 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by perceptrons (Post 101303232)
The album art looks like two oddly mutilated penises in a V formation to me.

No lie, I looked at the art and said..

"Why are there two dicks on it?"

Holly HoX! 01/17/12 06:58 AM

Damn you, AP!!! You always dog my favorite bands!!!

Josh20426 01/17/12 07:18 AM

Interlude off of SCS will always be their best song

i_am_near_main 01/17/12 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by j4callen (Post 101320942)
The Worst

LOL

jvg4444 01/17/12 07:39 AM

This band fooled us all with the promise of progression when they released the teaser video. Shame on them for continuing to be shitty.

Quijiba 01/17/12 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by EnZo (Post 101306102)
guitar work is so blahh with these guys...could they chug anymore?

this. Don't get me wrong I love a good chug now and then, but its just annoying in this case

Capulet 01/17/12 08:48 AM

i think its a great album

Moses Malone 01/17/12 10:04 AM

Anybody seen the new music video? Reminds me a whole lot of As I Lay Dying's Nothing Left/Sound of Truth videos, which is to say, what a ridiculously overused convention.

Spencer Control 01/17/12 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by ClintMontgomery (Post 101306422)
"For some reason, I had a bit of hope for this record – and then I pressed play."

This was my exact feeling upon listening to the stream on Altpress yesterday. Sigh.

And mine.

I do want to note, though, that there are bands that pull this off well. Memphis May Fire, most notably, is Risecore, but it actually sounds good and substantial enough for me to enjoy it.

cubine 01/17/12 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Spencer Control (Post 101336412)
And mine.

I do want to note, though, that there are bands that pull this off well. Memphis May Fire, most notably, is Risecore, but it actually sounds good and substantial enough for me to enjoy it.

Memphis May Fire bores me to death far more than this album does... that's just me

CurtisFFI 01/17/12 11:31 AM

Interested in hearing the new style for the clean vocals.

Does this mean they stopped using auto-tune as an effect, or?

almightykingdom 01/17/12 12:10 PM

I enjoyed it. For me, This Means War is good running music. I like "The Abduction". The spoken word part was pretty intense I thought.

iseejosh 01/17/12 12:13 PM

Yeah, this band has barely changed their sound(that can be argued, seeing as the new album doesnt have cheesy dance breakdowns), but a lot of bands that are loved on this sight barely do. the only difference is that with this genre of music, the jokes come easy. That being said, the record isnt bad, isnt great, just heavy and somewhat generic. But I dont hink deserving of all the hate(minus the album art,come on guys)

oneeightytwo 01/17/12 12:14 PM

Quite experimental with the song names... "The..." "The..." etc. haha

EnZo 01/17/12 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by SourStuff (Post 101312742)
As usual this band gets treated unfairly here but I fully agree with the sentiment stated that the record stays on the safe side. There are moments where I'm like ok this is going somewhere and it falls so damn flat. There is nothing memorable on this record for me, and I'd consider myself a big fan of theirs. I think this record is very different from all their records. They're all different in my opinion but honestly they've getting away from what I liked about them.

So sure, my comments will probably get trolled, discredited, and dismissed but it's a shame that the reviewer seems to think it's the same record in a row. It's not. Secondly, I always see these jokes about oh they can't play guitar or "guitar work is so blahh with these guys." Why are you coming to Attack Attack! for guitar work that pleases you? You know what you gonna get. Go somewhere else if you want that. It's just frivolousness and a waste of time.

Finally I agree with the reviewer's statement "I had hope that the guys would possibly release something different." I agree and, I can't believe I'm saying it, the grade is kinda fair. This isn't the progression I foresaw or wanted. I was hoping for more of the self-titled sound just without the auto-tuned singing. Caleb sings really well. I like it but the scream sucks now. On the self-titled it was just bone-crushing, or devastating. It was better than. I like that they tried nu-metal stuff but "might as well listen to nu-metal if you like this."

This record disappoints me, sadly.

guitar work makes an album interesting especially in this genre, its not too much to expect a band like this to throw something out there that isn't palm muted chugging or heavily down tuned power chords. How can musicianship not be relevant in critiquing a record? How can you not lose credibility for using the same riff practically throughout the entire album?

claw38 01/17/12 01:15 PM

It's an improvement over the last two albums, and the missing autotune/techno crap makes it at least listenable. Caleb's vocals are decent enough at least

cubine 01/17/12 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by CurtisFFI (Post 101339492)
Interested in hearing the new style for the clean vocals.

Does this mean they stopped using auto-tune as an effect, or?

Yes. I mean I'm sure it was still used as is the case with basically every modern professional recording but there is no T-Pain style stuff on here. Caleb sounds great.

AWCFDUSTIN 01/17/12 01:52 PM

Awful review
 
I cannot disagree more. This album, while it does obviously stay in the same genre, is nothing like the last record. The chord structure, and overall guitar work is much better and much more complex. Just because there are breakdowns does not make the breakdowns similar. That is, obviously, the style of music that they play, and the style that their fans prefer. However, to say that they just re-did the last album is ridiculous. While they stay in the same genre, they are not similar at all. Oh, and Shomo sounds nothing like McKinnon. At all.

CurtisFFI 01/17/12 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by cubine (Post 101352852)
Yes. I mean I'm sure it was still used as is the case with basically every modern professional recording but there is no T-Pain style stuff on here. Caleb sounds great.


Oh yeah I'm sure tuning was used to polish the vocal but I meant as an effect.

Hmmm interesting, I'll have to check this out then. When I saw them live a few years ago, it seemes like he was lip synching.

Thanks!

XenoLovegood 01/17/12 02:13 PM

Meh, it's better than the last two albums at least. I had so much hope for these guys after hearing the s/t deluxe tracks. Attack Attack!, I am disappoint.

DylanPPPP 01/17/12 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by SourStuff (Post 101313172)
I think this band gets a bad rap for that GIF right above us in the thread. Plus these guys were mostly children when they started out. If this record was their debut, and this was the first time people had seen'em; I guarantee you nobody would rail this band.

I guarantee you they would.

signal to noise 01/17/12 05:28 PM

How is that dick picture still there and that dude not banned? That's...incredible actually.

AquaMan 01/17/12 06:32 PM

I find myself in that awkward position of actually liking an album that apparently sucks. I know better than to rage so I'll put it like this: I personally thought that this sounds much different than their previous efforts. It sounds evolved in an angry sort of way, like all of a sudden their taking it serious. I thought that they actually had some creativity as well. For example, the piano opening on The Wretched, or the synth breakdown in The Reality. Two each his own, but I enjoy this album, and I'll just say it, give it a chance

CellarGhosts 01/17/12 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by cubine (Post 101313402)
That's EXACTLY what I said over in the album stream thread. If it weren't for SCS and specifically the Stick Stickly video they would just be viewed as a mediocre-to-decent metalcore band by most people on this website, but no, just because of that music video everyone takes it upon themselves to write paragraph after paragraph about how supposedly "ear-bleedingly terrible" they are.

That's because they are fucking terrible.

cubine 01/17/12 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by CellarGhosts (Post 101374352)
That's because they are fucking terrible.

That's just not true. Judged purely on this record they are at worst a mediocre metalcore band.

TenSpeed 01/17/12 11:07 PM

so bad i dont even have to listen to more than one song to know.

DylanPPPP 01/17/12 11:11 PM

I love how people are that delusional that they can't believe people think a terrible band is terrible because they're terrible.

Alligator Blood 01/18/12 01:26 AM

Mehhh, I think it's an alright record. Nothing special, but everybody on this site seems to bash it like it'll be the undoing their musical integrity.

cubine 01/18/12 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Alligator Blood (Post 101395932)
Mehhh, I think it's an alright record. Nothing special, but everybody on this site seems to bash it like it'll be the undoing their musical integrity.

Yeah I can't stand the level of hatred so many people on this website seem to have for AA!, their recent output has been alright.

Although if we're talking about albums full of "The ____" titles, this one fucking destroys all others:


FFAA is byfar my favorite "brutal" band. They don't fuck around.

Evan123 01/18/12 03:02 PM

Listening to this record makes me appreciate bands like Emmure... and that's saying something.

Hidden In NJ 01/18/12 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by SourStuff (Post 101315262)
http://youarethescene.net/wp-content/comment-image/7247-tn.jpg
Can't help myself...


lololololololololol, that definitely made me chuckle! Congrats

starseed 01/18/12 08:02 PM

I'm so glad I'm not the only one who thought that album cover looked like a couple of dicks.

JoshSalas 01/18/12 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by SourStuff (Post 101315262)
[IMG]http://youarethescene.net/wp-content/comment-image/7247-tn.jpg[/IMG
Can't help myself...

LOL.

UntamedLazyeye 01/19/12 01:26 PM

I don't get all the hate for this album. Yeah its not the best metalcore album out their but its a decent one.

Jason Tate 01/19/12 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by cubine (Post 101379012)
That's just not true. Judged purely on this record they are at worst a mediocre metalcore band.

Mediocre metalcore is terrible.

justbradley 01/19/12 01:52 PM

Well, I won't be checking this out. I've been wondering whether or not I should give it a shot, and I don't think it deserves my time. Haha. But great review, Ryan.

HanLuk 01/19/12 02:10 PM

I thought this was a slight improvement.....and by slight I mean as slight as your car hitting a squirrell.

defmytones 01/19/12 04:18 PM

I came, I heard,
I moved on.

No lasting value at all.

MilanM 01/19/12 05:46 PM

Guess I won't be checking out this cadaverpenis-laden album.

mrnubnub 01/19/12 06:28 PM

You guys just don't "get" it

Miketheunicycle 01/19/12 08:57 PM

so plain

ablueskytragedy 01/21/12 09:11 AM

does John Feldman just produce anything people give him these days?

Ohaidere 01/21/12 11:44 AM

This album is definitely deserving of a 10%

AvengedCorpse 01/21/12 01:19 PM

I'd give it a solid 26%.