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EmoErk 03/21/12 07:45 PM

Whenever I get super stressed out I take the day off to J off, its natural. On the couch or in traffic

fna4 03/21/12 09:44 PM

Mental illness and I hope he gets the treatment he needs. That being said, there are still a decent amount of factual inaccuracies in that video. Not to mention the sad reflection it is on our generation that it takes a slickly made video to get people to focus on one of many issues of this nature. (even if it was for a brief moment)

Liciakasher 03/22/12 08:06 AM

They're still going with the whole stressed out/mental illness thing? I'm pretty sure people would like him more if he just said "Yeah, i made an ass of myself. I'm sorry." the end. This is all just making him look more ridiculous.

mikeXXXnj 03/22/12 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Jason Tate (Post 105102222)
Because my presence in Uganda is as useful as my presence in a research lab.

http://m.theatlantic.com/internation...plex/254843/1/

http://m.theatlantic.com/internation...plex/254843/2/

http://www.vice.com/read/kony-baloney

UnderMyDreams 03/22/12 08:53 AM


That link from Vice starts with "As someone who has worked in propaganda for a long time," and then continues by using propaganda to try to turn people away from IC. In many ways, including bringing up irrelevant info, taking quotes way out of context, and even claiming Kony is not that bad.

Try again.

mikeXXXnj 03/22/12 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UnderMyDreams (Post 105132862)
That link from Vice starts with "As someone who has worked in propaganda for a long time," and then continues by using propaganda to try to turn people away from IC. In many ways, including bringing up irrelevant info, taking quotes way out of context, and even claiming Kony is not that bad.

Try again.

way to completely ignore the first two links. clearly written by a young african man.

and the vice article doesn't say that Kony "is not that bad". it basically states the LRA are growing more and more irrelevant on their own and Kony really hasn't been an issue in northern Uganda recently. and now with the IC campaign, he is being brought to light again. The LRA has less than 100 members and kills less people than disease does in Uganda (about 3-4 since 2006). This campaign is uninvited in Uganda (see link of reprimand from the Ugandan Prime Minister: http://globalvoicesonline.org/2012/0...rime-minister/) and misdirected (calling on the Uganda military to take action when their travesties are almost also equal as the LRA's :http://www.observer.ug/index.php?option=com_content&view=a rticle&id=17456:updf-in-kony-hunt-accused-of-rape-looting)

please get informed before trying to call me out asshole.

Holly HoX! 03/22/12 09:21 AM

This whole thing - this guy, IC, Kony - is a mess. I'd be hard-pressed to give less a fuck about any of it at this point.

UnderMyDreams 03/22/12 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by mikeXXXnj (Post 105133542)
way to completely ignore the first two links. clearly written by a young african man.

and the vice article doesn't say that Kony "is not that bad". it basically states the LRA are growing more and more irrelevant on their own and Kony really hasn't been an issue in northern Uganda recently. and now with the IC campaign, he is being brought to light again. The LRA has less than 100 members and kills less people than disease does in Uganda (about 3-4 since 2006). This campaign is uninvited in Uganda (see link of reprimand from the Ugandan Prime Minister: http://globalvoicesonline.org/2012/0...rime-minister/) and misdirected (calling on the Uganda military to take action when their travesties are almost also equal as the LRA's :http://www.observer.ug/index.php?option=com_content&view=a rticle&id=17456:updf-in-kony-hunt-accused-of-rape-looting)

please get informed before trying to call me out asshole.


So, you're arguing that it's not that Kony's not that bad, it's just there's worse problems in the world, so their efforts should be going to a bigger problem? And the Prime Minister says he's not in Uganda, so we shouldn't look for him because it's not worth it or something?

That doesn't sound right. And it's not like they new this would go viral, they were raising awareness for a problem that their charity organization specifically is targeted. I don't understand.

mikeXXXnj 03/22/12 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by UnderMyDreams (Post 105136852)
So, you're arguing that it's not that Kony's not that bad, it's just there's worse problems in the world, so their efforts should be going to a bigger problem? And the Prime Minister says he's not in Uganda, so we shouldn't look for him because it's not worth it or something?

That doesn't sound right. And it's not like they new this would go viral, they were raising awareness for a problem that their charity organization specifically is targeted. I don't understand.


that's such an ignorant statement. They didn't know that it would go viral? If you truly think that then you're a damn fool. They definitely knew it would go viral. And their charity is under fire because of the their questionable financials.

UnderMyDreams 03/22/12 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by mikeXXXnj (Post 105150402)
that's such an ignorant statement. They didn't know that it would go viral? If you truly think that then you're a damn fool. They definitely knew it would go viral. And their charity is under fire because of the their questionable financials.


Jason showed their finances earlier.

mikeXXXnj 03/22/12 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by UnderMyDreams (Post 105159102)
Jason showed their finances earlier.

and, at least to me, they're still questionable.

jessicalynn-xx 03/22/12 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UnderMyDreams (Post 105132862)
That link from Vice starts with "As someone who has worked in propaganda for a long time," and then continues by using propaganda to try to turn people away from IC. In many ways, including bringing up irrelevant info, taking quotes way out of context, and even claiming Kony is not that bad.

Try again.

Where is the propaganda in the Vice article? I didn't notice the propaganda techniques you mentioned, or any others. But maybe I was just being lazy.

Jason Tate 03/22/12 07:35 PM


That proved my statement...

mikeXXXnj 03/23/12 02:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Jason Tate (Post 105166502)
That proved my statement...

I'm unsure of what statement you're referring to.

Jason Tate 03/23/12 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikeXXXnj (Post 105178272)
I'm unsure of what statement you're referring to.

..my presence in Uganda is as useful as my presence in a research lab..