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Thomas Nassiff 06/05/12 02:24 PM

UTG Presents: Crystalyne EP Stream, Christofer Drew/Bryan Stars Op-Ed
 
Our friends at UnderTheGun have had a busy couple of days. They are streaming Crystalyne and States Away's new EPs, have an op-ed on the Christofer Drew/Bryan Stars situation that has inspired a lot of debate, and inspect the plot holes in Spiderman 3.

UnderMyDreams 06/05/12 02:30 PM

That op ed is good.

Raarzipan 06/05/12 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by UnderMyDreams (Post 108952592)
That op ed is good.

I felt it was a bit to bias towards Chris, his fans came up with the questions Bryan asked and Bryan has never tried to be "serious"

phillipjacob 06/05/12 02:37 PM

i'm curious to know what bands called Christopher Drew out?

zachff 06/05/12 02:47 PM

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n music, the focus SHOULD be on music and the process that goes into making it, not skinny jeans and haircuts. This is the point Drew drives home, but in a fashion that left much to be desired.
I like what he did there.

DisasterCode 06/05/12 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by phillipjacob (Post 108952902)
i'm curious to know what bands called Christopher Drew out?

I know Kellin Quinn did.

2MoveOnIs2Grow 06/05/12 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by phillipjacob (Post 108952902)
i'm curious to know what bands called Christopher Drew out?


Chris Fronzack from Attila, Tyler Carter and Michael Bohn(ex Woe Is Me), Stephan Jerzak, and Kellin Quinn from Sleeping With Sirens. Chris Drew then proceeded to do what he always does, and posted himself smoking weed.

phillipjacob 06/05/12 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by 2MoveOnIs2Grow (Post 108954272)
Chris Fronzack from Attila, Tyler Carter and Michael Bohn(ex Woe Is Me), Stephan Jerzak, and Kellin Quinn from Sleeping With Sirens. Chris Drew then proceeded to do what he always does, and posted himself smoking weed.


Well I'm not taking sides in this story, but Christopher Drew didn't do his self any favors making enemies per se with other bands/band people.

2MoveOnIs2Grow 06/05/12 03:24 PM

And as for the article, I think it was great. From havin met Bryan, he is very humble and doesn't like to be in the spotlight when off camera. Chris knew what the interview would be like, and went ahead and did it anyway. Yeah, Bryan's questions can get awkward and repetitive, but it gives bands a break from the stresses of touring. If NSN didn't want to do it, they could have easily said no. Other bands have. And when Bryan asked one of the members music questions, he blew him off with short answers.

Scrawns 06/05/12 03:25 PM

when i watch a bryan stars interview it is because i want to see artists just chatting and hanging out, and he brings that out in people. i feel like a lot of the interviews about music have answers that are very planned or are based on telling fans what they want to hear, so its nice to see someone change things up a little bit. this drew guy knew what he was getting into when they agreed to do this, and somehow he is still butthurt about it. also, i have a lot of respect for other musicians who defended the stars guy, as it is easy to see the value in his interviews.

MObassman 06/05/12 03:27 PM

so i didnt watch the whole thing, just skipped to 35:00 where it apparently starts. i didnt think chris said anything tooo over the line, but he really didnt need to say it on camera. i can understand why he'd feel a little frustrated, but he should have just let the interviewer do his thing and said something to him off-record. it just kind of made himself look rude, not an image you want to go for

George_mm 06/05/12 04:14 PM

Still want to like Spider-Man 3 so much, but its so hard.

glassinthesea 06/05/12 05:32 PM

really like the states away songs!!

steve187 06/05/12 06:04 PM

that Op-Ed thing was extremely one sided towards chris

"we're not going to take sides"

"but from a journalistic perspective heres why i think chris was right"

PepperminCherry 06/05/12 06:08 PM

I went to school with this kid and I see him around town on occasion. He was a dick then and he's a dick now, probably even more so than before. He's all talk and no talent.

With that being said, I understand both sides. I get that Christofer Drew and everyone else in the band are frustrated not being asked questions about their music, but they knew that's how this guy is, he just doesn't always ask about the music, which personally, I kinda enjoy when the interview asks non-music questions. But i also get when Bryan Stars was upset about being told he was a joke and that he needed to be 'real'. He seems pretty real, even if his real is kind of annoying.

Jacob Tender 06/05/12 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by UnderMyDreams (Post 108952592)
That op ed is good.

Thanks

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Originally Posted by zachff (Post 108953292)
I like what he did there.

Ha, I'll be honest, I didn't plan that, but thanks.

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Originally Posted by 2MoveOnIs2Grow (Post 108954642)
And as for the article, I think it was great. From havin met Bryan, he is very humble and doesn't like to be in the spotlight when off camera. Chris knew what the interview would be like, and went ahead and did it anyway. Yeah, Bryan's questions can get awkward and repetitive, but it gives bands a break from the stresses of touring. If NSN didn't want to do it, they could have easily said no. Other bands have. And when Bryan asked one of the members music questions, he blew him off with short answers.

I agree. Both sides were a bit rude.

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Originally Posted by steve187 (Post 108960492)
i don't even know why i care about this but that Op-Ed thing was extremely one sided

"we're not going to take sides"

"but from a journalistic perspective heres why i think chris was right"

Yea, after reading, I think it reads that way, but I won't cover my ass by editing it. It's published, it's done. I really think that NSN should have declined the interview or just asked it to end. What they did was very rude and discourteous. At the same time, Bryan should have just scrapped the interview, publishing it makes him no better than Christofer Drew.

Everyone has bad interviews sometimes, it's better to learn or try to save the interview though, rather than "finishing it" with a few shots of you crying over it. That isn't anyway to go about it. Sometimes you have to deal with dicks like Drew, but in cases like that, you move on to the next interview and keep doing your thing, maybe a bit different next time.

In short, the video shouldn't have been posted, Chris should have told him no, and we could continue just disliking them for their music or interview questions, not for ridiculous dramatic reasons.

steve187 06/05/12 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by jender4 (Post 108960832)


Yea, after reading, I think it reads that way, but I won't cover my ass by editing it. It's published, it's done. I really think that NSN should have declined the interview or just asked it to end. What they did was very rude and discourteous. At the same time, Bryan should have just scrapped the interview, publishing it makes him no better than Christofer Drew.

Everyone has bad interviews sometimes, it's better to learn or try to save the interview though, rather than "finishing it" with a few shots of you crying over it. That isn't anyway to go about it. Sometimes you have to deal with dicks like Drew, but in cases like that, you move on to the next interview and keep doing your thing, maybe a bit different next time.

In short, the video shouldn't have been posted, Chris should have told him no, and we could continue just disliking them for their music or interview questions, not for ridiculous dramatic reasons.


changed my post a little bit but i can see where you're coming from. in the end, like you said i think they should have just said no to the interview in the first place since they obviously wanted no part of in it. i'm not trying to defend the bryan guy, if i was in a band i wouldn't want to waste my time with his bullshit either but the point is they agreed to it and made the dude drive 7 hours just to humiliate him and call what he does scum and a joke when they knew exactly what kind of interview it would be

Jacob Tender 06/05/12 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by steve187 (Post 108961192)
changed my post a little bit but i can see where you're coming from. in the end, like you said i think they should have just said no to the interview in the first place since they obviously wanted no part of in it. i'm not trying to defend the bryan guy, if i was in a band i wouldn't want to waste my time with his bullshit either but the point is they agreed to it and made the dude drive 7 hours just to humiliate him and call what he does scum and a joke when they knew exactly what kind of interview it would be

I edited to reflect your changes.

Again, that example shows that I didn't edit properly. The way I was thinking was "Everyone thinks Chris is wrong. They are right about that, but he did have a reason for what he said, even if it wasn't conveyed correctly, and here is why..."

I don't mean that Chris is the only one in the "Right," I just don't think he is the only one in the wrong. He is right to a degree, but he didn't handle the interview/situation in the right way. Keep it off camera.

Oskarr 06/05/12 06:31 PM

Bryan stars' interviews are entertaining. Dude isn't hurting anyone.

AussieBoy 06/05/12 07:41 PM

Someone just needs to punch that little twerp Drew right in his clitoris

xBranx 06/05/12 09:31 PM

That States Away EP is a jam.

SteveD 06/05/12 09:37 PM

Spiderman 3 was good. I don't understand all the hate, could it have been better? Sure. But it entertained me. Did its job as a movie.

AussieBoy 06/05/12 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveD (Post 108971372)
Spiderman 3 was good. I don't understand all the hate, could it have been better? Sure. But it entertained me. Did its job as a movie.


I liked it except for that lame emo hair black suit dancing bit it not a patch on first 2

cowlord 06/05/12 10:35 PM

Just remembered how bad this dude's dubstep album was.

WeltallAY 06/06/12 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by AussieBoy (Post 108972022)
I liked it except for that lame emo hair black suit dancing bit it not a patch on first 2


Hahahahaha, that part was actually painful to watch and unfortunately sticks out to me the most.

SteveD 06/06/12 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by AussieBoy (Post 108972022)
I liked it except for that lame emo hair black suit dancing bit it not a patch on first 2


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Originally Posted by WeltallAY (Post 108980212)
Hahahahaha, that part was actually painful to watch and unfortunately sticks out to me the most.


The dancing is unfortunate but you understand the reason they went for the black hair and all that stuff though. I don't think the movie should be penalized for 1 bad scene... sadly it has. :(

signal to noise 06/06/12 11:59 AM

The WTFilm write up on Spider-Man 3 was like they were onto something and then the article just kind of ends. And saying that Venom needs more origin that Spider-Man? eehhh. thats... a stretch.