Originally Posted by i like apples
Blackbird, Yesterday, A Day in the Life, In My Life. Anything written by Billy Joel. You cannot win this argument. Every critic, magazine, and real musician would side with The Beatles over Bruce Springsteen. I love Bruce but cmon man, get a grip. I guess this is what I should of expected coming into this thread though.
Dude, you can't win the argument solely on the "most people say it so it must be true" mantra. You have supplied no evidence in the songs you are naming that makes them better than the ones I am naming, which leads me to believe that either A) you don't actually know anything about songwriting or musicianship or B) you have been told one thing for so long that you've been brainwashed into believing it's true, even if you can't think critically about it or form a cohesive argument on its behalf.
Your sweeping generalizations only discredit you further: every critic? Thomas and I are both a part of that population, and yet here we are siding against you. Every "real" musician? Have you ever played in a band or worked with any professional musicians? I'd actually argue that Bruce and The E-Street Band are more respected in the musical community, specifically because of the number of virtuoso talents on its roster. I'm sure none of them would deride the Beatles either (other than Ringo, who is, deservedly or undeservedly, a running joke), but none of them had the sheer technical ability of Clarence Clemons or Roy Bittan. 9/10 saxophonists, at least in my experience, would take Bruce over the Beatles. Are they not "real" musicians? And goddamn, I think a few of the bands in your "favorite artists" lists would have some choice words for your blanket statement as well.
written by Billy Joel?! I love the guy, but just about anyone will recognize how inconsistent he is as an album maker. The Stranger
is one of the 25 greatest records of all time, but even that doesn't have the thematic arc, the musical splendor, or the breathtaking flow of Born to Run
. But you say Billy never wrote a song that WASN'T better than Bruce's greats? Are you trying to say that "We Didn't Start the Fire" or "I Go to Extremes" are better songs than "Thunder Road"? Speaking of statements any critic or real musician would laugh at...
And yeah, you should have expected Bruce bias in this thread, but what you shouldn't have expected was that I was just going to let you laugh at my claim, call me a moron for making it, and then let you get away without defending your arguments. Naming song titles may seem significant, but I can do that right back at you. How about "Backstreets," "Rosalita," "Incident on 57th Street," "Badlands," "Darkness on the Edge of Town," "The River," "Atlantic City," "Stolen Car," "Lost in the Flood"? All of those songs have at least one aspect (if not many) that places them above all or most Beatles songs in my mind, and I could argue why for all of them.