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Keagan Ilvonen 10/11/12 08:35 PM

Conditions Start Indiegogo For New Record
 
Conditions have started a indiegogo for their new record.

Submitted by Jennurna Gray

whenyourearound 10/11/12 08:39 PM

a new form of kickstarter i see...interesting

jusscali 10/11/12 08:42 PM

This record will own.

EndlessPrisoner 10/11/12 08:50 PM

oh goodness, those rewards.

killbrand.com 10/11/12 09:05 PM

Love conditions, but those rewards suck. If contributing 10 dollars got me a CD as well I'd do it. That's why I did Confides.

bobsheiskawy 10/11/12 09:13 PM

wait, none of them include a copy of the record? not even digital? this was the first donation-style project i was really excited to support, and (at least while these are the same rewards) now i don't think i will. come on, guys.

xsinkshipsx 10/11/12 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by whenyourearound (Post 114107272)
a new form of kickstarter i see...interesting

yeah. Indiegogo allows the artist to keep the money regardless of whether they make their goal. Kickstarter you have to make your goal to get the money

guitarguy211 10/11/12 09:16 PM

Awesome band, and I'm sure this album will rule.

However, I prefer the Kickstarter platform much more than Indiegogo. Anyone agree or disagree?

dancelukedance 10/11/12 09:17 PM

Shit, they've taken ages. I thought they were already recording

Searos 10/11/12 09:19 PM

I wanna help this band out but I would rather hand them 10 dollars then go through this thing. I honestly would of given a good amount if a cd was offered but I just can't justify giving that much when the rewards are just twitter shout outs and stuff I don't care about. I have bought all their eps and albums and will continue to but nothing about this is appealing other than getting their album made. I may give like 5 dollars but its not a priority atm. I hope they release a great album and can afford it but not offering even a digital download just sorta rubs me the wrong way. I know it is greedy to say but I wanna give a lot to the band and get something special from it to remember even if it is something as simple as the cd you could just get anywhere.

whenyourearound 10/11/12 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by xsinkshipsx (Post 114108572)
yeah. Indiegogo allows the artist to keep the money regardless of whether they make their goal. Kickstarter you have to make your goal to get the money

hmmm i did not know that, thanks for the insight

HCO SF 87 10/11/12 09:29 PM

I like this band, and that clip sounds good, but $750 for dinner with them? Seriously? They better pay for the meal haha

TheRealJohnOC 10/11/12 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by HCO SF 87 (Post 114109052)
I like this band, and that clip sounds good, but $750 for dinner with them? Seriously? They better pay for the meal haha

Well it's 750 for Dinner, two tickets to a show, meet and greet, skype performance, thank you liner note, skype chat, t-shirt/stickers, personalized auto and a personal tweet.

TheRealJohnOC 10/11/12 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by bobsheiskawy (Post 114108542)
wait, none of them include a copy of the record? not even digital? this was the first donation-style project i was really excited to support, and (at least while these are the same rewards) now i don't think i will. come on, guys.

That sounds very strange. Maybe they forgot to include it? I mean at least a digital copy should be included in 10 dollars and up.

likedyingy0ung 10/11/12 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Searos (Post 114108702)
I wanna help this band out but I would rather hand them 10 dollars then go through this thing. I honestly would of given a good amount if a cd was offered but I just can't justify giving that much when the rewards are just twitter shout outs and stuff I don't care about. I have bought all their eps and albums and will continue to but nothing about this is appealing other than getting their album made. I may give like 5 dollars but its not a priority atm. I hope they release a great album and can afford it but not offering even a digital download just sorta rubs me the wrong way. I know it is greedy to say but I wanna give a lot to the band and get something special from it to remember even if it is something as simple as the cd you could just get anywhere.

I think the assumption they're making, which is the assumption that I would make were I in a band in this position, is that anyone who cares enough to donate money to help them make a record already owns their pre-existing music in some capacity.

Searos 10/11/12 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by likedyingy0ung (Post 114109542)
I think the assumption they're making, which is the assumption that I would make were I in a band in this position, is that anyone who cares enough to donate money to help them make a record already owns their pre-existing music in some capacity.

I get that but I mean this is the only one of these things I have ever seen where you don't get a digital download or a cd of the new album when its done. I get that they wanna sell it and that is all good but if fans are willing to give 20-100+ throwing in a copy of the album seems standard. Even assuming the band is going for a full digital only release and no hard copies this time around which I have seen bands do tacking on a digital copy can't hurt them that much especially when it really gives the fans that want this album out so much what they really want in the end. These things are meant to be mutually beneficial. Money is given to the band to record a record with hopes it will be good and rewards are given to the backers for their contribution to making the album release possible.

I will buy the album when it comes out and if the singer asked for a bit of help (I know the guy) I would easily give him a 10 or something but I just don't see the need (personally...not speaking for everyone) to go through this whole process.

messiguy01 10/11/12 10:06 PM

Lotta gimme gimmes in here. I would hope everyone's first intention would be 'I'd love to help them out any way I can' and that it doesn't fly out the window when one realizes perks are involved. I may not always have cash for merch at shows but I'll throw a fiver in the tip bucket without hesitation.

Regardless, glad to see folks are throwing some big support their way. Great dudes with honest heart for making music.

HCO SF 87 10/11/12 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by TheRealJohnOC (Post 114109372)
Well it's 750 for Dinner, two tickets to a show, meet and greet, skype performance, thank you liner note, skype chat, t-shirt/stickers, personalized auto and a personal tweet.

Oh I didn't see that. It's still a huge amount for what you get.

henry chinaski 10/11/12 11:30 PM

Damn that clip sounds great

PermanentTourists 10/12/12 01:41 AM

Hilarious rewards

Avalanche1 10/12/12 02:36 AM

Dumb rewards

likedyingy0ung 10/12/12 03:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Searos (Post 114109972)
I get that but I mean this is the only one of these things I have ever seen where you don't get a digital download or a cd of the new album when its done. I get that they wanna sell it and that is all good but if fans are willing to give 20-100+ throwing in a copy of the album seems standard. Even assuming the band is going for a full digital only release and no hard copies this time around which I have seen bands do tacking on a digital copy can't hurt them that much especially when it really gives the fans that want this album out so much what they really want in the end. These things are meant to be mutually beneficial. Money is given to the band to record a record with hopes it will be good and rewards are given to the backers for their contribution to making the album release possible.

I will buy the album when it comes out and if the singer asked for a bit of help (I know the guy) I would easily give him a 10 or something but I just don't see the need (personally...not speaking for everyone) to go through this whole process.

I know Brandon as well, we grew up in the same town and I sold merch for them at one of their first shows where they actually had merch to sell. To start, I thought people were saying a copy of like Flourescent Youth should be thrown in, so my fault there. As far as throwing a copy of the album in once it's done, yeah it would be nice, but I can see why they wouldn't do it. The reason that they can't afford to record now is because like it or not, they haven't done well financially with their previous releases. They can't guarantee this album will sell well enough to make them back more than what they spend making it, and yeah, it sucks, but it's just not a wise business move. They care about the fans certainly, but they're trying to make things happen to where they can get this recorded AND tour on it, and they're trying to be smart in order to accomplish that. They did offer a surplus of rewards to anyone paying high amounts, and yeah, only the $25 package seems really fitting, but even if they threw the album in, would it make everything in the $750 package seem worth $750 to you? They can only do so much. That being said, I like their music alot and the shirt I bought from them when FY came out has a hole in it, so I'm going to cash out $25 when I get paid to do my bit and replace it all in one.

Steve Alcala 10/12/12 04:07 AM

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Originally Posted by dancelukedance (Post 114108672)
Shit, they've taken ages. I thought they were already recording

They are!

I'm really excited to hear new music especially because of the team they're working with but yeah, not liking these rewards much.

Searos 10/12/12 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by likedyingy0ung (Post 114112892)
I know Brandon as well, we grew up in the same town and I sold merch for them at one of their first shows where they actually had merch to sell. To start, I thought people were saying a copy of like Flourescent Youth should be thrown in, so my fault there. As far as throwing a copy of the album in once it's done, yeah it would be nice, but I can see why they wouldn't do it. The reason that they can't afford to record now is because like it or not, they haven't done well financially with their previous releases. They can't guarantee this album will sell well enough to make them back more than what they spend making it, and yeah, it sucks, but it's just not a wise business move. They care about the fans certainly, but they're trying to make things happen to where they can get this recorded AND tour on it, and they're trying to be smart in order to accomplish that. They did offer a surplus of rewards to anyone paying high amounts, and yeah, only the $25 package seems really fitting, but even if they threw the album in, would it make everything in the $750 package seem worth $750 to you? They can only do so much. That being said, I like their music alot and the shirt I bought from them when FY came out has a hole in it, so I'm going to cash out $25 when I get paid to do my bit and replace it all in one.

Fair enough. I mean I may reconsider and donate for the sake of having this album and I get what you are saying but even the newest of bands recording maybe their first album or something normally have at least digital copies. Then again I have high hopes for this album as 2 albums I got through kickstarter this year have been absolutely amazing and return to form. I have 1 more coming which seems to be taking a darker approach which will be awesome for their genre. If there is any band that I knew locally that always release solid material though it is conditions.

jimmyeatsboys 10/12/12 06:33 AM

I really hope someone from this band is checking out the feedback in this thread and beyond. but offering these rewards with NO NEW MUSIC is ridiculous. at least throw a digital download at us if we're the ones funding the recording and reproduction for physical copies.

Davey_Owens 10/12/12 07:11 AM

Good Fight can't afford to send them to the studio? Fuck I love this band

dohare 10/12/12 07:31 AM

i can't wait to graduate, have a real job. and throw up $1,000 to have bands like this play table side at my apartment while i eat surf and turf.

but i'm throwing up for this, band has always been solid, but has ALWAYS missed out on a "WOW" type sound/song for me.

Jared Luttrell 10/12/12 10:08 AM

Conditions are so fucking talented. It's weird that there is no digital release with this and weird that good fight can't come up with enough money to fund the whole record, but I will support just about anything these guys do. A digital download feels like a must though for backers.

snowboarderkid 10/12/12 10:20 AM

The rewards suck so this band isn't getting any money from me

brokenwings 10/12/12 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by guitarguy211 (Post 114108642)
Awesome band, and I'm sure this album will rule.

However, I prefer the Kickstarter platform much more than Indiegogo. Anyone agree or disagree?

I agree. Kickstarter is a fantastic platform and I really don't feel like signing up for something new.
I would have probably donated some money if the rewards were better, however. The stuff they are offering is just bullshit. They should have taken a look at what other bands offer before starting something like this. Also, they should have chosen Kickstarter, which is just much more established.

And what exactly is their label good for, if they can't get the band in the studio? WTF? And how did Conditions finance the recording of their EPs when they were not on a label? Sorry, for whining around, but I just don't get this whole thing.

Miketheunicycle 10/12/12 12:04 PM

stoked for thsi record!

likedyingy0ung 10/12/12 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by snowboarderkid (Post 114121932)
The rewards suck so this band isn't getting any money from me

I still think $25 for a t-shirt, sticker, set of autographs, a tweet, and a skype session with the band is pretty reasonable, at least if you genuinely enjoy their music on the level I do. I wouldn't cash out for any of the higher priced ones though.

sweetfootaction 10/13/12 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by likedyingy0ung (Post 114132012)
I still think $25 for a t-shirt, sticker, set of autographs, a tweet, and a skype session with the band is pretty reasonable, at least if you genuinely enjoy their music on the level I do. I wouldn't cash out for any of the higher priced ones though.

How in the world do you see it as a "wise business move" for them to not include the album in the incentives? THE WHOLE POINT OF THE PROJECT IS TO RECORD THE ALBUM!

Also, what is the point of being signed to a label if you have to fund the record yourself?