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ZachMadeMeOdd 10/13/12 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by yeahdude (Post 114129032)
perhaps it was all a publicity stunt for both bands.


The second I read the body of this post I thought the same thing.

InaGreendase 10/13/12 09:44 AM

So this is how you get 2012 relevance: sound like Gaslight.

stuckonsmile 10/13/12 10:31 AM

This sounds like a logical succession from So Long Astoria--unlike that other album (which i listened to just because it was them, but didn't really ever find to my enjoyment).

Searos 10/13/12 10:58 AM

eh I could care less about drama but when it comes to evaluating these songs they sound great. I honestly would've been ok if The Ataris didn't ever come out with a new album but while I am not going to wait on the edge for its release date I will definitely get it if it comes out. The Ataris were once one of my favorite bands and saw them live this year and it was awesome.

Daveyhavok832 10/13/12 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by InaGreendase (Post 114157002)
So this is how you get 2012 relevance: sound like Gaslight.

This is an odd statement for two reasons. 1) These songs are literally older than The Gaslight Anthem (Fast Times: 10 years old, 12/15/10: around 13-14 years old) and 2) They don't sound like The Gaslight Anthem at all. Your ignorance actually makes me wonder if you have ever heard The Gaslight Anthem and the whole folksy-bluesy thing they do...

cmark88 10/13/12 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Searos (Post 114155922)
These songs sound like a cross between Welcome To The Night and So Long Astoria. I have been wanting to hear 12/15/10 since they added it to their live sets. It was good live. Also the redone version of Fastimes is very different but if the album sounds like this then I can't wait. The Ataris will always be one of my favorites in pop punk.

I'm definitely getting the vibe of an album that's between those two sounds too. I love both those records. I feel like people that judged Welcome to the Night album and never went back should go back to it now, because it may sound better to you if your tastes have matured over the years! Same thing with Matchbook Romance's 'Voices'....

punkcrap 10/13/12 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by gregl (Post 114154072)

My favourite version of Fast Times is the live version that Kris released on a tour EP a couple of years ago, such a great representation of the song, in fact I think it was from a Napster session...




I also have this version on iTunes, it's really good. Kris' mentioned several times that this is the best song he ever wrote in his opinion, and I have to agree. Great lyrics.

Stephin_DC 10/13/12 12:56 PM

Kind of boring, I feel like Kris's vocals have gotten more generic over the years, I get what he is going for but his vocals arn't good enough to bring me in

Basketcase 10/13/12 01:54 PM

fucking great! i especially like the re-recorded version of Fast Times more than the original.

ILiveInMyCar 10/13/12 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by bradsonemanband (Post 114155012)
he was also in a band called Pollen waaay back in the day. They ruled too.

I can't believe someone else even knows of Pollen - god, I don't feel as old now.

sooperdoodey 10/13/12 04:16 PM

If they would just finish/release this god damned album it would do wonders for their career.

Searos 10/13/12 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by cmark88 (Post 114159162)
I'm definitely getting the vibe of an album that's between those two sounds too. I love both those records. I feel like people that judged Welcome to the Night album and never went back should go back to it now, because it may sound better to you if your tastes have matured over the years! Same thing with Matchbook Romance's 'Voices'....

I won't lie I did not like it at first but listened to it a 2 years ago and loved it. It is different and barely sounds like The Ataris but was good in a different way. I really like the bridge between those sounds. 12/15/10 is something I have wanted to hear for a long time.

AbbeyCarbs 10/13/12 07:10 PM

I was not expecting to like this. It's been a long time since So Long, Astoria. But... these are awesome!

dX927 10/13/12 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Daveyhavok832 (Post 114159112)
This is an odd statement for two reasons. 12/15/10: around 13-14 years old)

Kris knew the exact date of his grandmother's death for 11 years and didn't tell anyone?

bradsonemanband 10/14/12 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Daveyhavok832 (Post 114159112)
12/15/10: around 13-14 years old)


i think you're thinking of a different song...

Daveyhavok832 10/14/12 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by dX927 (Post 114173762)
Kris knew the exact date of his grandmother's death for 11 years and didn't tell anyone?


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Originally Posted by bradsonemanband (Post 114176592)
i think you're thinking of a different song...

I was. It was weird because I knew that song so well and had just assumed it was the song with the numbered title (I rarely know track names because I listen to cd's mostly and don't look at the tracklist). When I first heard it I knew all the words and so I just assumed it was a re-recorded song from Blue Skies. It turns out I knew it from Hang Your Head in Hope.

blindrider529 10/14/12 12:08 PM

Wouldn't it be awesome if the whole freakout was a publicity stunt to get more ears to the new songs?

scormier2 10/14/12 12:54 PM

I'll be sure to not check it out.

AmericanBryan 10/14/12 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by rbf737 (Post 114154432)
Speaking of the producer (someone mentioned him) his name is Bob Hoag and he had a band called "the Go Reflex" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHnmI4SpM3c which I got into because I think Kris mentioned them back in the day. They had some good tunes like a decade ago but kind of disappeared pretty quickly. Nowadays he plays keys in the Ataris as someone said and produces and I messaged him asking him for a copy of one of the Go Reflex songs a couple of years ago and he said he was re-recording them and was planning some kind of release.

Anyway, sorry for the tangent I'm sure no one has heard of them but I liked their stuff and have to think of them when I think of Bob.

The Go Reflex is amazing Bob is such a good songwriter we actually had them play some west coast shows with us a few months ago and in Tempe, AZ they did a Pollen set too!

jaymzbtw 10/14/12 04:59 PM

This re-recording of Fast Times is so fecking old. I got it on a demo CD that Kris was giving out when he did an acoustic tour of Australia back in 2009.
Other song is great.

honkytonk 10/14/12 05:03 PM

Wish he kept the piano at the end of Fast Times

hectorial85 10/15/12 05:02 AM

Brilliant.

The Ataris have always been a fave band of mine. I'm so stoked for new music from them. Graveyard is going to be on high repeat for me.

I'm happy to see people loving Welcome The Night here too. That was a very timely album in my life. Had a chance to talk to Kris about that at a show years ago. So good.

Jacktheskipper 10/15/12 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by jaymzbtw (Post 114198362)
This re-recording of Fast Times is so fecking old. I got it on a demo CD that Kris was giving out when he did an acoustic tour of Australia back in 2009.
Other song is great.

What else was on that CD?

splitsecond 10/15/12 06:22 AM

weird... I thought they scrapped the flying blanket recordings. if these are the originals, they were no joke recorded back in 2009.

mikenewsbears 10/15/12 06:39 AM

The Ataris and Saves The Day first introduced me to pop-punk back in the day. Won't lie, these are pretty great.

Great to hear "Fast Times At Dropout High" again. It sounds incredible.

jimjam32 10/15/12 07:13 AM

damn i want this cd

hectorial85 10/15/12 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Jacktheskipper (Post 114211762)
What else was on that CD?

I might be wrong but the tour EP with a new version of Fast Times was a live version and had this track listing:

1: Soul and Fire (Sebadoh cover)
2: Oh Kansas City
3: Fast Times At Dropout High (live)
4: Cardiff By The Sea (live)
5: The Cheyenne Line (live)
6: Secret Handshakes (live)
7: Untitled

The version of Fast Times on this tour EP is really "Welcome The Night"-ish (pretty sure it was recorded late on the touring cycle for that LP) with a long outro and some great guitar work.

This new studio version is fucking great. Loving new Ataris :)

Searos 10/15/12 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by hectorial85 (Post 114215412)
I might be wrong but the tour EP with a new version of Fast Times was a live version and had this track listing:

1: Soul and Fire (Sebadoh cover)
2: Oh Kansas City
3: Fast Times At Dropout High (live)
4: Cardiff By The Sea (live)
5: The Cheyenne Line (live)
6: Secret Handshakes (live)
7: Untitled

The version of Fast Times on this tour EP is really "Welcome The Night"-ish (pretty sure it was recorded late on the touring cycle for that LP) with a long outro and some great guitar work.

This new studio version is fucking great. Loving new Ataris :)

That tour EP sounds awesome. I never knew about it. Regardless if the album sounds like this then I am down. I liked All Souls Day and Graveyard of The Atlantic that were previously released because they had a darker sound with still having that so long astoria (one of my favorite albums of all time) elements. These 2 songs just released follow suit with even more Welcome The Night vibe without loosing touch of that so long, astoria vibe. This is generally a more mature sounding melodic punk/alt rock and honestly if The Ataris ever get this album out it may be on a lot of people's ATOY lists despite them not really being active over the last few years.

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hectorial85 10/16/12 03:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Searos (Post 114237982)
That tour EP sounds awesome. I never knew about it. Regardless if the album sounds like this then I am down. I liked All Souls Day and Graveyard of The Atlantic that were previously released because they had a darker sound with still having that so long astoria (one of my favorite albums of all time) elements. These 2 songs just released follow suit with even more Welcome The Night vibe without loosing touch of that so long, astoria vibe. This is generally a more mature sounding melodic punk/alt rock and honestly if The Ataris ever get this album out it may be on a lot of people's ATOY lists despite them not really being active over the last few years.


It is pretty great. I have another EP Kris was selling in 06 or 07 (?) from Chain Reaction in California. It has no label, writing or anything - literally just a burnt CD of acoustic cover songs. It has this tracklisting:

1: Soul and Fire (Sebadoh) slightly different to the other EP version, I think????
2: Horseshoe Lounge (Slade Cleaves)
3: 747 (Kent)
4: Car (Built To Spill)
5: Priests and Paramedics (Pedro The Lion)
6: We Don't Mind (Hayden)
7: Kiss The Bottle (Jawbreaker)

But yeah, I'm super excited for Graveyard. Loving the 4 songs released from it so far. All Soul's Day is just perfect. I think it'll be right up there with my fave albums if these tunes are any indication.

Again, I'm super happy that there is some Welcome The Night love being posted. I always looked at it as a separate project for Kris but still under The Ataris name. I think he put a lot of effort into that LP so I'm glad it is being acknowledged by others.

Searos 10/16/12 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by hectorial85 (Post 114251472)
It is pretty great. I have another EP Kris was selling in 06 or 07 (?) from Chain Reaction in California. It has no label, writing or anything - literally just a burnt CD of acoustic cover songs. It has this tracklisting:

1: Soul and Fire (Sebadoh) slightly different to the other EP version, I think????
2: Horseshoe Lounge (Slade Cleaves)
3: 747 (Kent)
4: Car (Built To Spill)
5: Priests and Paramedics (Pedro The Lion)
6: We Don't Mind (Hayden)
7: Kiss The Bottle (Jawbreaker)

But yeah, I'm super excited for Graveyard. Loving the 4 songs released from it so far. All Soul's Day is just perfect. I think it'll be right up there with my fave albums if these tunes are any indication.

Again, I'm super happy that there is some Welcome The Night love being posted. I always looked at it as a separate project for Kris but still under The Ataris name. I think he put a lot of effort into that LP so I'm glad it is being acknowledged by others.

I think time will pay off. They have waited a long time to really get this LP done but by combining that alt rock sound with their pop punk sound they have created some really special songs here. If people don't just write off the band because of the drama in current events (all bands have drama) than I got a feeling this album will be really good.

hectorial85 10/16/12 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Searos (Post 114259322)
I think time will pay off. They have waited a long time to really get this LP done but by combining that alt rock sound with their pop punk sound they have created some really special songs here. If people don't just write off the band because of the drama in current events (all bands have drama) than I got a feeling this album will be really good.

Agreed. I hope people let the music speak for itself.

Searos 10/16/12 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by hectorial85 (Post 114259992)
Agreed. I hope people let the music speak for itself.

Honestly as much as I love pop punk bands and old ataris as well as a whole slew of bands from my childhood are up there as my favorite bands I still really love darker records. Saves The Day, Bayside, Brand New, Taking Back Sunday, Jimmy Eat World, Dinosaur Jr, and more have been on heavy rotation recently. It could just be the weather getting colder but music is perceived based on the mood in which the album exists. A lot of people wrote off Invented by Jimmy Eat World when it came out but it fit within a specific mood that even I had to find and once I did I absolutely loved it.

I honestly did not like Welcome The Night that much when it came out cause it was just such a jarring change but once I found the mood it exists within and how it fits into binges of that style of music it really hit home. So Long, Astoria will always be my favorite as I have so many memories with that album that grow stronger every year (GF found the LP for 20 bucks for my birthday) and Blue Skies is a classic pop punk album. Despite that I think progression in a band should never be written off especially if the listener has not discovered its mood yet. Thats why I think Daybreak is up there as the best or 2nd best Saves The Day record. It branches out while drawing elements from multiple of their albums and lyrically is relatable.

hectorial85 10/17/12 03:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Searos (Post 114260762)
Honestly as much as I love pop punk bands and old ataris as well as a whole slew of bands from my childhood are up there as my favorite bands I still really love darker records. Saves The Day, Bayside, Brand New, Taking Back Sunday, Jimmy Eat World, Dinosaur Jr, and more have been on heavy rotation recently. It could just be the weather getting colder but music is perceived based on the mood in which the album exists. A lot of people wrote off Invented by Jimmy Eat World when it came out but it fit within a specific mood that even I had to find and once I did I absolutely loved it.

I honestly did not like Welcome The Night that much when it came out cause it was just such a jarring change but once I found the mood it exists within and how it fits into binges of that style of music it really hit home. So Long, Astoria will always be my favorite as I have so many memories with that album that grow stronger every year (GF found the LP for 20 bucks for my birthday) and Blue Skies is a classic pop punk album. Despite that I think progression in a band should never be written off especially if the listener has not discovered its mood yet. Thats why I think Daybreak is up there as the best or 2nd best Saves The Day record. It branches out while drawing elements from multiple of their albums and lyrically is relatable.


I dug Welcome The Night when it came out. I agree with you - it is a better winter record. I was ready for something different. I'd been playing The Ataris (and pop-punk in general) for years and so when some of my fave bands were making more diverse records I ate it up. I had a chat with Kris before a show back in 09 about how much Welcome The Night meant to me, comparing it to Weezer's Pinkerton and Saves The Day's In Reverie. Don't even get me started on Saves The Day.

I still haven't given Invented a good go. I'll get on to that.

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