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davidwalbrun 10/23/12 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by musicfan9795 (Post 114519182)
Garret's been doing both since their first record.


No way, Justin their bassist did screams on their last album

HeyItsAllyssa 10/23/12 03:03 PM

The singer is a real nice guy just needs to work on his vocals live. I hope he isn't leaving.

Scrawns 10/23/12 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by sosayweall (Post 114514132)
Joshua Moore is WCAR's guitarist and he writes their songs.

oh man i feel so derp, i totally skimmed over that and thought something completely different. my bad. nice username too, great show

low_rising 10/23/12 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by davidwalbrun (Post 114522092)
No way, Justin their bassist did screams on their last album

nah im pretty sure garret recorded them and justin assisted live.

sosayweall 10/23/12 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Scrawns (Post 114522932)
oh man i feel so derp, i totally skimmed over that and thought something completely different. my bad. nice username too, great show

Frak yeah!

The_Effort 10/23/12 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ZachMadeMeOdd (Post 114515512)
Well, drummers and vocalists build and create off the melodies first made by a guitarist in a band. So, if you like this band that much you should be interested in who's playing guitar.


What? That's kind of a big generalization, man. Plenty of songs start as vocal melodies or simple chord progressions that lack melody. There are songs that have been started by an idea on drums as well and the application of chords/melody to the rhythmic structure that they create. Also, some times the vocalist is the one who writes the initial guitar parts and teaches them to the guitarist so they can build from there. This isn't meant as any sort of disrespect or anything though, just saying.

ZachMadeMeOdd 10/23/12 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by The_Effort (Post 114528752)
What? That's kind of a big generalization, man. Plenty of songs start as vocal melodies or simple chord progressions that lack melody. There are songs that have been started by an idea on drums as well and the application of chords/melody to the rhythmic structure that they create. Also, some times the vocalist is the one who writes the initial guitar parts and teaches them to the guitarist so they can build from there. This isn't meant as any sort of disrespect or anything though, just saying.


Didn't say that doesn't happen. But as a musician that's been in a band it almost always comes down to having guitar rhythms first. The drummer can't just start jamming and expect everyone to write off them. Not to mention drummers can't create harmonies or melodies, just beats. And vocalists, well most of the time they're on their own somewhere writing nonsense.

The_Effort 10/23/12 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ZachMadeMeOdd (Post 114539722)
Didn't say that doesn't happen. But as a musician that's been in a band it almost always comes down to having guitar rhythms first. The drummer can't just start jamming and expect everyone to write off them. Not to mention drummers can't create harmonies or melodies, just beats. And vocalists, well most of the time they're on their own somewhere writing nonsense.


I know what you're saying about it happening a majority of the time in most bands, but as a musician who's been in numerous bands, toured, and taught music for a living, I can tell you from my own experience the things I said happen, do in fact happen. I've written plenty of songs that started with a vocal melody, I've also written plenty of songs that started with a drum idea that had the right feel and drive that I was going for. Also, the drummer in my current band writes a lot of the vocal harmonies and also does some backing vocals. I'm doing vocals in this particular band as well and can assure you every song that's been written for it was written by me and I taught the parts to our guitar players. I've also had songs start as basic chord changes with no melody and build from there, and even songs that I wrote on piano and transferred to guitar in order to more fit the style. Again, this isn't meant to be disrespectful by any means. I see your point; I just feel as though it was a broad generalization. Not looking to argue at all though.

Journey408 10/24/12 02:11 AM

wcar suck

Miketheunicycle 10/24/12 10:17 AM

love tcm looking forward to new material, im sure itll be solid stuff