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ChaseTx 11/19/12 11:06 AM

He's an acquired taste.

bobsheiskawy 11/19/12 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Micah511 (Post 115558862)
He can also write a catchy vocal melody, which Jonny hasn't done since the first dtbm

spoken like someone who's never listened to emarosa or jonny's solo work.

Micah511 11/19/12 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by bobsheiskawy (Post 115561602)
spoken like someone who's never listened to emarosa or jonny's solo work.

hilarious, because ive listened to all of it. i used to be a jonny fanboy. look, i like emarosa, but their entire first album has 2-3 maybe memorable vocal melodies. a melody is different than having a great voice. hes just not that good at writing catchy songs. it got a little better on the second album, but that might be due to emarosa dumbing down the instruments to make it easier to write melodies. Solo material? The best song of his solo career was one written with the guys from Closure in Moscow. DGD's DTBMII does not have a single memorable chorus, which is why i say the albums with kurt are better. he might not be as talented of a singer, but i can remember every hook of every song he sang with DGD, which is way more than i can say for jonny.

ZachMadeMeOdd 11/19/12 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Your Milkshake (Post 115559362)
Both of Saosin's full lengths are SO BLAND... Fans reactions and critical reception has not been kind to them. There is an overwhelming argument for their irrelevancy. And yes I know Translating and even the subsequent ep were legendary.

Im not replying to your comments on dgd because i dont necessarily agree/disagree with them. At least even if I or anyone else hated any dgd song, no one could ever accuse them of being boring or indistinguishable from any other bands.


Their newest full length absolutely fell short of what that band is capable of, mostly due to a poor performance from Cove. But to say their first full length with him was bland is insulting. The song structuring and vocals on that album far surpass anything DGD has done, and it's sold better as well. Saosin has a much wider fan base thanks to that album and everything they did with Anthony before that is untouchable.


It takes more than a flashy guitarist and a ginger singing about bitches to be considered a great band in my eyes.

Micah511 11/19/12 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by ZachMadeMeOdd (Post 115563952)
Their newest full length absolutely fell short of what that band is capable of, mostly due to a poor performance from Cove. But to say their first full length with him was bland is insulting. The song structuring and vocals on that album far surpass anything DGD has done, and it's sold better as well. Saosin has a much wider fan base thanks to that album and everything they did with Anthony before that is untouchable.


It takes more than a flashy guitarist and a ginger singing about bitches to be considered a great band in my eyes.

dance gavin dance are great in my book because of songs like carl barker, dont tell dave, and uneasy hearts weigh the most. if jonny dgd is all youve listened to, kurt dgd is rather refreshing.

ZachMadeMeOdd 11/19/12 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by George_mm (Post 115561392)
I will never understand how people think Jon Mess is good


Agreed. The fact that he doesn't even really have a scream, but more so just a rasp noise, and his lyrics which don't really ever make sense.. The dude really isn't even a vocalist.

I even recall him saying once that he laughed at a fan for getting his lyrics tattoo'd because the fans read the stuff and think its gold on paper when none of it is serious.

PandaBear! 11/19/12 11:57 AM

I can see it sound a lot like DBM1 music-wise, with lots of spacey, delay-heavy guitars 'cause thats what suits Tillians voice imo. High hopes right here, as DGD haven't disappointed me yet!

Skinny blaque 11/19/12 12:20 PM

Jon Mess is the shit better and more unique than the majority of the screamers in the scene as far as originality goes

Djentleman 11/19/12 12:26 PM

"dance gavin dance"

not DGD without Jonny Craig. break up already, frauds

ZachMadeMeOdd 11/19/12 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Micah511 (Post 115564092)
dance gavin dance are great in my book because of songs like carl barker, dont tell dave, and uneasy hearts weigh the most. if jonny dgd is all youve listened to, kurt dgd is rather refreshing.


I do listen to some of their stuff still. I won't say that I don't like all of their work, and Kurt on record did well. Though his live show wasn't that great.

_veges_ 11/19/12 12:30 PM

I'm actually excited to listen to a DGD album now. Is that weird?

pepster50 11/19/12 12:52 PM

dont get the hate for DBM2. Loved all the albums but that was probably my favorite. Only thing that i though wasn't as good as past releases was the drums. Guitarwork was amazing on DBM2.

Your Milkshake 11/19/12 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ZachMadeMeOdd (Post 115563952)
Their newest full length absolutely fell short of what that band is capable of, mostly due to a poor performance from Cove. But to say their first full length with him was bland is insulting. The song structuring and vocals on that album far surpass anything DGD has done, and it's sold better as well. Saosin has a much wider fan base thanks to that album and everything they did with Anthony before that is untouchable.


It takes more than a flashy guitarist and a ginger singing about bitches to be considered a great band in my eyes.


I myself like almost half of that album well enough. I dont think its a stretch to call a good chunk of that album bland though. Im not trying to discredit Saosin at all, theyve progressed post hardcore and alternative music as we know it. I am a fan in the end and used to call them one of my favorite bands but pretty much all of their fanbase knows that theres been a dip in quality for the longest time with them. Just go to the saoboards and take a look around.

tldr; Saosin is an important band but no one expects them to return in all their former glory. Therefore, the possibility of new material surfacing is arguably irrelevant because of their recent track record.

cubsml34 11/19/12 01:11 PM

Next best option to Tillian going back to Tides of Man, which is the only thing I want for Christmas.

bobsheiskawy 11/19/12 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Micah511 (Post 115562002)
hilarious, because ive listened to all of it. i used to be a jonny fanboy. look, i like emarosa, but their entire first album has 2-3 maybe memorable vocal melodies. a melody is different than having a great voice. hes just not that good at writing catchy songs. it got a little better on the second album, but that might be due to emarosa dumbing down the instruments to make it easier to write melodies. Solo material? The best song of his solo career was one written with the guys from Closure in Moscow. DGD's DTBMII does not have a single memorable chorus, which is why i say the albums with kurt are better. he might not be as talented of a singer, but i can remember every hook of every song he sang with DGD, which is way more than i can say for jonny.

i think the second emarosa album is way better than anything dance gavin dance has ever released.