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QuietThings430 11/27/12 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Your Milkshake (Post 115816892)
Youre right. Everyone should listen to exactly whatever kind of music they want to. Although, some people may be mad when they realize just how much money there is to make in the entertainment industry via tailored mass marketing and subculturing. If they percieve an artist to be insincere or untalented it may be frustrating to know that popular artists are rolling in the dough while more honest acts are barely scraping by. Think about how many songs in the last 1 to 2 years "reuse" elements from other songs. The point is maybe too much money is thrown at the next big pop stars and their labels, in a sense, enabling and resulting in a more homogenous and exclusive music industry. Thats not necessarily a good thing.


That's the unfortunate reality though, regardless of the medium. McDonalds will always make more money than the local burger shop. Michael Bay flicks will always make more money than a risk-taking indie film. And pop artists will always sell the most records, garner the larger fanbases and gain the most exposure. It's always been like this and probably always will. McDonalds is honestly a perfect comparison to pop music. It's cheap and potentially articficial but does it's job (and is infinitely better when you're drunk); however nobody wants to be that guy that only eats at McDonalds. Music is unfortunately a business like everything else, and artists like Ke$ha, for better or worse, are more marketable. The best thing you could do is concentrate on the artists you love, do everything you can to make sure they keep making music, and let the kids like whatevers on the radio; they'll broaded their horizons eventually *knocks on wood*

j4callen 11/27/12 05:10 PM

This album is mediocre but people throwing around the same, tired bullshit that pop stars they don't like are "untalented" is beyond annoying to me.

I'm kind of interested in hearing someone intelligently defend a position stating Kesha is completely untalented. "Ha, ha, ha, show me watchu got!" (AP cred, y'all).

Your Milkshake 11/27/12 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by QuietThings430 (Post 115818272)
That's the unfortunate reality though, regardless of the medium. McDonalds will always make more money than the local burger shop. Michael Bay flicks will always make more money than a risk-taking indie film. And pop artists will always sell the most records, garner the larger fanbases and gain the most exposure. It's always been like this and probably always will. McDonalds is honestly a perfect comparison to pop music. It's cheap and potentially articficial but does it's job (and is infinitely better when you're drunk); however nobody wants to be that guy that only eats at McDonalds. Music is unfortunately a business like everything else, and artists like Ke$ha, for better or worse, are more marketable. The best thing you could do is concentrate on the artists you love, do everything you can to make sure they keep making music, and let the kids like whatevers on the radio; they'll broaded their horizons eventually *knocks on wood*


I wholeheartedly agree with you although we must be careful to not speak in absolutes here. Are you familiar with popular music from the 70's? That era would like a word with your hypothesis if youre concerned with marketability. Actually every decades popular music up until after the 70's has been resoundingly acceptable to all demographics. Yes, the times are changing and music is becoming more streamlined.

For the record I personally am not the one calling Kesha untalented in here.

incognitojones 11/27/12 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by j4callen (Post 115819452)
This album is mediocre but people throwing around the same, tired bullshit that pop stars they don't like are "untalented" is beyond annoying to me.

I'm kind of interested in hearing someone intelligently defend a position stating Kesha is completely untalented. "Ha, ha, ha, show me watchu got!" (AP cred, y'all).

On edge of my seat waiting for someone to claim computers sing instead of her.

QuietThings430 11/27/12 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Your Milkshake (Post 115821172)
I wholeheartedly agree with you although we must be careful to not speak in absolutes here. Are you familiar with popular music from the 70's? That era would like a word with your hypothesis if youre concerned with marketability. Actually every decades popular music up until after the 70's has been resoundingly acceptable to all demographics. Yes, the times are changing and music is becoming more streamlined.

For the record I personally am not the one calling Kesha untalented in here.


That is true. I remember reading a Cracked article a while back explaining how Frampton Comes Alive and its record breaking sales inavertingly resulting in the birth of the modern music industry; an industry where the amount of records sold becaming the top priority. Coincidentally, around the time this album came out, disco started its rise in 70s culture, arguably the first musical genre to have an active backlash.

Your Milkshake 11/27/12 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by QuietThings430 (Post 115822122)
That is true. I remember reading a Cracked article a while back explaining how Frampton Comes Alive and its record breaking sales inavertingly resulting in the birth of the modern music industry; an industry where the amount of records sold becaming the top priority. Coincidentally, around the time this album came out, disco started its rise in 70s culture, arguably the first musical genre to have an active backlash.


Once the MBAs get ahold of anything, everything is run like a coldly calculated business. Imagine what its going to be like when all the employees at the hugest companies in the world with the brightest futures ahead of them such as Google are all superceded by these kind of people.

Joey-Wan Kenobi 11/27/12 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by incognitojones (Post 115821712)
On edge of my seat waiting for someone to claim computers sing instead of her.

i luv compooter sings.

ChaseTx 11/27/12 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by QuietThings430 (Post 115818272)
That's the unfortunate reality though, regardless of the medium. McDonalds will always make more money than the local burger shop. Michael Bay flicks will always make more money than a risk-taking indie film. And pop artists will always sell the most records, garner the larger fanbases and gain the most exposure. It's always been like this and probably always will. McDonalds is honestly a perfect comparison to pop music. It's cheap and potentially articficial but does it's job (and is infinitely better when you're drunk); however nobody wants to be that guy that only eats at McDonalds. Music is unfortunately a business like everything else, and artists like Ke$ha, for better or worse, are more marketable. The best thing you could do is concentrate on the artists you love, do everything you can to make sure they keep making music, and let the kids like whatevers on the radio; they'll broaded their horizons eventually *knocks on wood*

Good analogies. I have no problem with pop music; in fact I'm a fan of a lot of stuff that gets constantly derided by rock elitists. I just REALLY can't stand Kesha. And don't get me started on Flo Rida.

QuietThings430 11/27/12 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ChaseTx (Post 115825052)
Good analogies. I have no problem with pop music; in fact I'm a fan of a lot of stuff that gets constantly derided by rock elitists. I just REALLY can't stand Kesha. And don't get me started on Flo Rida.

To me, Flo Rida is like the Train of hip-hop. It is void of anything special or noteworthy but at the same time, it's so harmlessly bland that if you heard it on the radio, it wouldn't come off as something so bad you need to vent about it. Maybe you'd change the station out of boredom but it wouldn't inject a leech on your brain. I'd even say some of his tracks, mainly "Club Can't Handle Me", had some sweet hooks/production on it (probably because he had absolutely nothing to do with it). Because whenever he does a song by himself (Fucking. Fuuuuuucking Whistle) it's completely atrocious.

TheDillon 11/27/12 10:05 PM

I love Ke$ha.

brokencyde 11/28/12 12:03 AM

I think this album is a lot better than Animal. (and I thought Animal was pretty good)

Dr. Luke >>>>>

Evan123 11/28/12 12:57 AM

I normally hate this music, but this album is fucking sick. tooo catchy.

mattregan 11/28/12 07:01 AM

Beats are sick.

j4callen 11/28/12 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by QuietThings430 (Post 115828672)
To me, Flo Rida is like the Train of hip-hop. It is void of anything special or noteworthy but at the same time, it's so harmlessly bland that if you heard it on the radio, it wouldn't come off as something so bad you need to vent about it. Maybe you'd change the station out of boredom but it wouldn't inject a leech on your brain. I'd even say some of his tracks, mainly "Club Can't Handle Me", had some sweet hooks/production on it (probably because he had absolutely nothing to do with it). Because whenever he does a song by himself (Fucking. Fuuuuuucking Whistle) it's completely atrocious.


He didn't write the hook to whistle. It was a submission to Mike Caren, Pres of A&R for WMG who liked it, gave it to flo and brought in producers to build it up from scratch.

Song is a smash, btw.

Star Slight 11/28/12 07:14 AM

Flo rida has great beats/hooks. New song is really fun

QuietThings430 11/28/12 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by j4callen (Post 115833802)
He didn't write the hook to whistle. It was a submission to Mike Caren, Pres of A&R for WMG who liked it, gave it to flo and brought in producers to build it up from scratch.

Song is a smash, btw.

Oh yeah I meant to say Whistle is the one of his hit songs where he doesn't have any big names alongside him. Club Can't Handle Me had Guetta, Wild Ones had Sia, Good Feeling used the same hook as Avicii's Levels etc.

WasteSomeTime 11/28/12 10:00 AM

The amount of idiotic comments by most in this thread is laughable. Lets not forget this site's love for Nate and fun. and he had no issue working with her.

Jason Tate 11/28/12 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by jjm1 (Post 115817942)
It seems like every Kesha post (pretty sure its usually by Joe DeAndre) you immediately come in and make sure everyone knows you think Kesha sucks. I know you like to let staff post whatever they want but does it piss you off when this stuff is posted or something?

Not really ... we post about a lot of stuff I, personally, think is horrendous.

15 Step 11/28/12 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Your Milkshake (Post 115809502)
Im "over it." Just telling you why people think its crap. Your lack of maturity is showing.

omg im so fucking glad your perspective of maturity is what constitutes it's definition in this day and age. i can finally start the path of being "mature"

Your Milkshake 11/28/12 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by 15 Step (Post 115839372)
omg im so fucking glad your perspective of maturity is what constitutes it's definition in this day and age. i can finally start the path of being "mature"


good

Formatfun 11/30/12 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by WasteSomeTime (Post 115838422)
The amount of idiotic comments by most in this thread is laughable. Lets not forget this site's love for Nate and fun. and he had no issue working with her.

Thanks for spelling fun. right.

And we support Nate. He can do whatever he wants and I'll be happy he can stay financially alive through his work with other people to be able to keep making beautiful music.

Anyway... Ke$ha sucks.