Originally Posted by Charlesieiy

Four Year Strong - Rise Or Die Trying
Yeah, they released that other one before it, but I'll always consider this their debut. I honestly don't think they'll ever top it, with their current direction.

Yeah, also defines this category ... the backlash on their recent album has been pretty harsh.

Originally Posted by Jason Tate

Where is this large amount of people? Every Thursday thread/discussion for like 10 years has been about how bad the production now sucks, how the sound has changed, etc. etc.

Even if it isn't their favorite, those same people can at least admit the growth in sound. Read Drews review. 98% if I remember correctly. It was one of their most critically acclaimed, even if the fans thought otherwise.
I for one enjoyed their more ambient direction on the latest record.

Originally Posted by zachiswayhot

Against me! - either Reinventing Axl Rose, or Eternal Cowboy. I feel like none of their newer releases have been anywhere near as good, but I may be in the minority with this one.

I was going to include Against Me. Also almost included Rise Against.

Originally Posted by Drew Beringer

my addition would be The Ugly Organ by Cursive. Even though it seems like a lot of older fans are back on board with the release of I Am Gemini.

stoked to hear this.

Originally Posted by Charlesieiy

Four Year Strong - Rise Or Die Trying
Yeah, they released that other one before it, but I'll always consider this their debut. I honestly don't think they'll ever top it, with their current direction.

No love for EOTW?

Originally Posted by Thomas Nassiff

Disagree wholeheartedly with Yellowcard.

You don't think fans wanted a return to OA sound? Or you don't think that OA was their pinnacle of popularity?

/Confused.

Originally Posted by cwhit412

Even if it isn't their favorite, those same people can at least admit the growth in sound. Read Drews review. 98% if I remember correctly. It was one of their most critically acclaimed, even if the fans thought otherwise.
I for one enjoyed their more ambient direction on the latest record.

Yeah, because Drew's not who we're talking about here ... Drew's a smart critic.

Originally Posted by irthesteve

snoooozzeeeeeeee

octagon. now. let's do this!

Think ATL's would be TPS - I see way more people regarding it as their 'curse' than people who think of PUOSU that way. But it's either one of them, and sometimes (rarely) it's SWIR.

There won't be another IARB. Max is, well, happy. It won't happen again. It's no excuse for the constant quality drop album after album, but it's something that should be very clear by now.

Originally Posted by Jason Tate

Yeah, and I liked End is Forever, and SoLong ... but holy cow was Blue Skies my fav.

definitely my favorite. i'd also say TTTYG is fall out boy's curse

Originally Posted by Alex DiVincenzo

Hawthorne Heights - The Silence In Black And White
The Ataris - So Long Astoria
Sum 41 - All Killer No Filler

Still dig all three of these bands, though.

Blue Skies????

i have loved everything Cartel has put out to this point, but i agree with Chroma being the damn albatross

Originally Posted by Holly HoX!

Blue Skies????

I know Blue Skies is more of a fan favorite, but So Long was their most successful. Either one works though, as after Welcome the Night flopped they have been trying to recapture the glory days. I'm hoping they do it with the new album. The EP was good.

Tell All Your Friends is easily number one. Everything TBS has done since is just blaaah.

Originally Posted by Jason Tate

Yeah, because Drew's not who we're talking about here ... Drew's a smart critic.

THAT'S HIGH PRAISE!