[Cursethishearse]

Originally Posted by Chris92

Hm. The cover artwork for White Crosses has taken on a whole new meaning. Just realized that.

It was one of the first things I thought of.

[rawesome]

Originally Posted by Chris92

Hm. The cover artwork for White Crosses has taken on a whole new meaning. Just realized that.

Like I said in the Tom Gabel thread, every song I listen to now makes me wonder if he's talking about his transgender dysphoria.

For example, "Tonight, We're Gonna Give it 35%":

I can't believe how naive I was to think things could ever be so simple,
And can you live with what you know about yourself,
When you're all alone, behind closed doors?
The things we never said, but we always knew were right there.

[stupidtyonparad]

pretty sure 35% is about exactly what it sounds like. trying to make it in the music industry and not realizing just how hard it can be with critics/fans/etc.

but, it's an interesting perspective.

if you look up the jbtv interview they did for white crosses, he says some pretty interesting stuff. the interviewer asks him point blank if he cross dresses and tom just laughs it off and changes the subject.

besides that, i think it's the only performance video while andrew was away having his baby. and i'm pretty sure he discusses the origins of "black me out" without even doing it in the twitter part of the video.

[Genuma]

I've been assuming the vocals are going to be drastically different. just something we'll have to get used to.

[ImTheSheriff]

apparently they won't be from what I've been reading

[SanePsychotic]

Originally Posted by Genuma

I've been assuming the vocals are going to be drastically different. just something we'll have to get used to.

They shouldn't be if she just does hormones. Estrogen doesn't undo the change that testosterone does to your vocal chords.

[Genuma]

Originally Posted by SanePsychotic

They shouldn't be if she just does hormones. Estrogen doesn't undo the change that testosterone does to your vocal chords.

ah. I don't have a real grasp on how this works at all, so it was a pretty ignorant assumption of mine.

[mattmatumbo]

Originally Posted by SanePsychotic

They shouldn't be if she just does hormones. Estrogen doesn't undo the change that testosterone does to your vocal chords.

From what i've seen on Taboo and other such television shows, this is correct.

[TheOtherAndrew]

Your tells are so obvious.
Shoulders too broad for a girl
Keeps you reminded
Helps you remember where you come from

You want them to notice
The ragged ends of your summer dress
You want them to see you like they see every other girl.
They just see a ******. They hold their breath not to catch the sick
Washed up on the coast, I wish we could've spent the whole day alone
With you

You've got no cunt in your strut
You've got no hips to shake
You know it's obvious, but we can't choose how we're made

[deanster321]

Whatever people think of him it was pretty cool to see Mike Shinoda of all people express support for her

Once I got past the shittier reactions I saw the whole thing in general made me feel really really good about people

[SanePsychotic]

Originally Posted by Genuma

ah. I don't have a real grasp on how this works at all, so it was a pretty ignorant assumption of mine.

It's all good. I only know because I'm on testosterone, so I know the differing effects of the two hormones. Most people don't need to know, haha.

Originally Posted by mattmatumbo

From what i've seen on Taboo and other such television shows, this is correct.

Wait, Taboo is still on the air? That show used to be so good.

[strauburi]

Originally Posted by TheOtherAndrew

"You want them to see you like they see every other girl.
They just see a ******."

So sad. I can relate.

[mattmatumbo]

Originally Posted by SanePsychotic

It's all good. I only know because I'm on testosterone, so I know the differing effects of the two hormones. Most people don't need to know, haha.



Wait, Taboo is still on the air? That show used to be so good.

mmmm. I don't think it still is, but it had 3/4 seasons. Netflix has them all I think. Great show.

I've seen some pretty ignorant posts about Laura (Tom), it saddens me.

[domotime2]

have there been negative reactions to this? all ive seen were generally supportive ones

[versus_god]

http://www.jbtvonline.com/interviews...concept-albums