Originally Posted by Freshman15Davey

I mean, wasn't that song they released awhile ago about him as well? It just seems a little redundant.

Yea and the way the album is sounding the whole album is going to be him pitching shit at Tyler.

Hance's voice is killer. Should be used way more. Other than that, it's mehhh.

Rise metal has lasted way longer than it should have.

Call me a looser but.....

I dont enjoy all of the cussing they have added to their songs...

this sounds exactly like the last song

Originally Posted by Jack Appleby

As always, hearing a new Woe song made me re-listen to Oh, Manhattan. Seriously, one of my favorite post-hardcore records - Hance's screams are Keith Buckley-esque, and I love the way his cleans sound on that album.

In case you haven't, go listen: http://open.spotify.com/album/4FrgxRBUOOOiri3ziKS3YT
Whole album is great. Lyrics are fantastic, though note that they were written by the former singer.

Is this Hance's old band? If so then wow. This song and band in general need all Hance and none of that other screamer but I guess having only five members in their band is too little of a number for them. Hehe

This album went from being highly anticipated to not at all for me. I don't get why it was such a huge deal that members left W,IM that it caused the new members to latch on and talk all this shit. I mean, if Tyler and Michael never left then Hance and Doriano technically wouldn't have a job in such a well-known job so shouldn't they be happy?...This is all likely Austin's mastermind, who's pinning himself to be be quite the douche after all this. All these lyrics are doing is building up hate amoung very impressionable teens against a SPECIFIC person rather than the general ambiguity usually used within this scene. Finally, why do they keep on singing about [ex W,IM members] talking shit? Besides on King Of Armadillo it seems like they don't really give a shit.

Stop being bitter and write better lyrics jeezzz. So overproduced.

What's Hance gonna do during shows? He'll need a chair or something with how little singing time he gets.

Hmmmm lets see....what line should i put before the breakdown...i already hit him with a line about a dick in his mouth.....better tell him to "fucking die" again.

This band should seriously invest in adding a songwriter to the band. He can have a tambourine or something.

hey its heavy, is catchy, its bouncy, i like it

It is just so generic. The lyrics must stop. Why do they insist on beating a dead horse?

Originally Posted by ChristianLFTW

What's Hance gonna do during shows? He'll need a chair or something with how little singing time he gets.

Run in place and sync head banging with the rest of the band.

Originally Posted by Jack Appleby

I'd be really curious to see Woe and Issues sales numbers compared to other Rise acts. I wonder how much the shenanigans increase sales.

my thoughts