[theguy77]

Originally Posted by WakingTheMisery

If I played anything other than Squirtle to start, I always used Lapras until I got a Dewgong. Ice Beam is just fantastic.

Originally Posted by Argentine

Lapras is one the best physical tanks to me. A Curse set with Avalanche, Waterfall, and Rest, yo.

so what do you guys think:

Surf
Ice Beam
Rest
Sleep Talk

or

Surf
Ice Beam
Sunny Day
Solarbeam

one makes it more powerful an attacker and gives it a huge edge over other water types, the other makes it way harder than it already is to take down. obviously Hydro Pump will replace Surf later

[WakingTheMisery]

I've never been huge on Rest and love Solar Beam.

[BornUnderPunches]

It's already a tank so I'd go with option #2

[boiledfrogs]

why have sunny day when it just weakens lapras' STAB surf?

[WakingTheMisery]

So it can use Solar Beam without delay.

[boiledfrogs]

lol i understand that but why not just use thunder and have rain dance which would boost the surf instead of weaken it as well as give thunder 100% accuracy?

[WakingTheMisery]

Take out bulky waters. Either one works.

[CheckeredFloors]

Surf gives Thunder 100% accuracy? What?

[Argentine]

Weather moves are usually a waste of a move slot.

Hydro Pump has too low accuracy for me to consider it over something like Waterfall or Surf.

[BornUnderPunches]

Originally Posted by CheckeredFloors

Surf gives Thunder 100% accuracy? What?

No, he said Rain Dance gives Thunder 100% accuracy, which it does

[CheckeredFloors]

Originally Posted by BornUnderPunches

No, he said Rain Dance gives Thunder 100% accuracy, which it does

Oh, yeah I think that's what I meant.

Did not know that. Cool.

[theguy77]

Originally Posted by boiledfrogs

why have sunny day when it just weakens lapras' STAB surf?

Originally Posted by boiledfrogs

lol i understand that but why not just use thunder and have rain dance which would boost the surf instead of weaken it as well as give thunder 100% accuracy?

it would only be for fighting other water pokemon. the only things water moves are weak against, is grass pokemon and other water pokemon. Lapras already can have an edge on Grass because it's an Ice hybrid and packs a strong ass ice beam, so if i give it an edge over water too i can literally have no trouble beating any pokemon type with Lapras.

so if i use Sunny Day, yes it weakens Lapras's water moves. but it also weakens the other water pokemon's moves. yet while that pokemon probably still has to use its shitty water move to attack me, i can just use solarbeam, so i'm weakening their move AND using a powerful move that is also super effective, without having to wait two turns for it to strike.

besides, i already taught my Magneton Rain Dance and Thunder.

[theguy77]

Originally Posted by Argentine

Weather moves are usually a waste of a move slot.

Hydro Pump has too low accuracy for me to consider it over something like Waterfall or Surf.

dude Thunder literally can not miss with Rain Dance. that's vital to electric pokemon because Thunder is really inaccurate and a lot of times you need that move to take down water pokemon (like Lapras, or Dewgong, or anything else with the defenses to handle most Thunderbolts). Solarbeam takes two turns without Sunny Day so you can do twice as much damage with it.

[Argentine]

Originally Posted by theguy77

dude Thunder literally can not miss with Rain Dance. that's vital to electric pokemon because Thunder is really inaccurate and a lot of times you need that move to take down water pokemon (like Lapras, or Dewgong, or anything else with the defenses to handle most Thunderbolts). Solarbeam takes two turns without Sunny Day so you can do twice as much damage with it.

I know all of this. You don't know shit.

[Kris_Gontz9]

Wait, but why would you need the lapras JUST for fighting other water pokemon? :o? If you have magneton then that's kind of useless. I'd go with the rain dance/thunder so you still can pack an even better STAB Surf :)

I guess i should start my Platinum Run by the way.