Originally Posted by sergioisevil

OM&M and TDWP probably won't be relocating since both have members of Christian faith. I don't know about the other ones but I sincerely hope that ADTR follows in TSSF's footsteps.

(Holy fucking acronyms).

who in OM&M is christian?

Originally Posted by kaylasananjou

Yeah, they totally support hate free environments, that's why they still play "Daughters" live and are hypocritical, sexist assholes.

Originally Posted by jkim4007

and yet, Daughters and Mt. Diablo continue to played at their shows.

"I'm all for LGBT rights but FUCK GIRLS WHO SLEEP WITH PEOPLE AND DRINK!!! AWW YEAHH!!! WEED!!!!"

Garbage argument with almost no correlation to the Rocketown story.

Originally Posted by NickMadeVisible

Daughters is about girls who put themselves to shame by letting their guard down. Not about every female in general. By the way, adultery/promiscuity, which are the themes in those songs, are choices. Homosexuality is not. Get real.

spot on.

Getting upset at high school boys who are getting angsty with high school girls is kinda...you know...high school-ish.

There's plenty of bands out there who sing about girls and drunk girls and girls who bang dudes and can still have progressive social equality views.

Originally Posted by Djentleman

who in OM&M is christian?

Austin Carlile claimed being a Christian on a interview before.

Originally Posted by NickMadeVisible

Daughters is about girls who put themselves to shame by letting their guard down. Not about every female in general. By the way, adultery/promiscuity, which are the themes in those songs, are choices. Homosexuality is not. Get real.

You're kidding, right? There's absolutely nothing wrong with promiscuity, and to shame people for it is incredibly fucked up. To shame promiscuous members of one gender, while leaving the other out of the picture, is what we call sexism.

If homosexuality was a choice, would it be wrong then?

Originally Posted by NickMadeVisible

Daughters is about girls who put themselves to shame by letting their guard down. Not about every female in general. By the way, adultery/promiscuity, which are the themes in those songs, are choices. Homosexuality is not. Get real.

"Put themselves to shame by letting their guard down."

Seriously?

And there's a serious different between high school angst and flat-out name calling and calling girls at shows sluts and making the environment unsafe for them.

Originally Posted by dangerofthought

Getting upset at high school boys who are getting angsty with high school girls is kinda...you know...high school-ish.

There's plenty of bands out there who sing about girls and drunk girls and girls who bang dudes and can still have progressive social equality views.

Like? And do those bands also call out "sluts" at their shows?

I knew this thread would turn into this...take it somewhere else! They're doing something good

Originally Posted by jkim4007

You're kidding, right? There's absolutely nothing wrong with promiscuity, and to shame people for it is incredibly fucked up. To shame promiscuous members of one gender, while leaving the other out of the picture, is what we call sexism.

If homosexuality was a choice, would it be wrong then?

Oh, I'm guessing you've never listened to any Taylor Swift song, ever.

Originally Posted by NickMadeVisible

Oh, I'm guessing you've never listened to any Taylor Swift song, ever.

And what makes you think I find nothing wrong with her?

I figured that a dumb argument would arise out of you guys. All I have to say is I totally support their move to not play the venue. Very cool of them.

It's weird how when speaking out against someone's homophobic or racist comments, it's encouraged and applauded. For example, when everyone trashed the For Today guy, and said it didn't matter how many good things he did or has done, the underlying intolerance meant we should continue to speak out against him. But when speaking out against sexism, you're met with groans, and pleas to "take it somewhere else, because they're doing a good thing!"

It's the same principle. You are free to applaud them for doing a good thing. I am happy they're switching venues. But that doesn't excuse their underlying intolerance and frankly disgusting attitude towards women.

Originally Posted by NickMadeVisible

Daughters is about girls who put themselves to shame by letting their guard down. Not about every female in general. By the way, adultery/promiscuity, which are the themes in those songs, are choices. Homosexuality is not. Get real.

Just quoting so it's shown again on this thread.
Spot on.

Originally Posted by kaylasananjou

It's weird how when speaking out against someone's homophobic or racist comments, it's encouraged and applauded. For example, when everyone trashed the For Today guy, and said it didn't matter how many good things he did or has done, the underlying intolerance meant we should continue to speak out against him. But when speaking out against sexism, you're met with groans, and pleas to "take it somewhere else, because they're doing a good thing!"

It's the same principle. You are free to applaud them for doing a good thing. I am happy they're switching venues. But that doesn't excuse their underlying intolerance and frankly disgusting attitude towards women.

Are you fucking kidding me?

Originally Posted by kaylasananjou

It's weird how when speaking out against someone's homophobic or racist comments, it's encouraged and applauded. For example, when everyone trashed the For Today guy, and said it didn't matter how many good things he did or has done, the underlying intolerance meant we should continue to speak out against him. But when speaking out against sexism, you're met with groans, and pleas to "take it somewhere else, because they're doing a good thing!"

It's the same principle. You are free to applaud them for doing a good thing. I am happy they're switching venues. But that doesn't excuse their underlying intolerance and frankly disgusting attitude towards women.

Yes, I'm the sure the views expressed towards certain individual women, are at least an incredibly small margin of them in those songs are expressive of the entire female sex as a whole.