how so.. have you listened to their first album? besides time to pretend and kids, the rest sounds very similar to Congratulations. I really don't understand why people were so against their last album.. honestly, listen to the songs besides their singles and you'll see where that album is coming from. I don't think they ever had ambitions to be mainstream, nor are they trying to avoid being it. Not trying to come off like a snob, but if people truly liked their debut.. they wouldn't have been surprised by Congratulations at all.. Not saying you in particular, but I feel like most people only know this band by their two "mainstream" singles, which are both very different then the rest of their material.