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AP.net Chat: Steve Rennie

Posted by: Christian Wagner (10/07/13)
At 7 PM EST, Steve Rennie, manager of Incubus and the brains behind Renman MB, will join us to chat with you guys. If you have any questions about the industry, how to try and get noticed, or know what "Fuck The Gatekeepers" means, this is the guy to talk to.

Update: Steve has wrapped things up. Thanks for taking the time out to chat!
  
 
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03:43 PM on 10/07/13
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03:52 PM on 10/07/13
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Steve, thanks for doing this. As a young, aspiring manager, it's a great opportunity to pick your brain. I've got some questions for you:

1. What is a common pitfall you see in young managers?
2. For someone looking to break into the management end, with so many artists to choose from, do you suggest sticking with 1 all the way through, or working with several and hoping one pans out?
3. Thoughts on the EDM bubble? Is it going to just keep growing or will it burst soon?
4. I know what "Fuck The Gatekeepers" means, but for those that don't care to explain?

Thanks!
03:58 PM on 10/07/13
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If they doesn't answer your question, feel free to ask another.

This is not a way to ask them for favors, to ask them if they'll make your voicemail message for you or visit you at your house.

Have fun. The idea is for everyone to talk together and share in a collective experience.

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"Hello folks. Looking forward to your questions"
04:02 PM on 10/07/13
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Hi Steve,

I'm in a a hardcore band out of the midwest. We've been trying to prioritize the most important types of people to have around us with the limited money that we have... What do you think is most important, hiring a manager or a publicist?
04:02 PM on 10/07/13
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" the most common pitfall I see young managers falling into is the inability to say " I don't know". Too often I find that young managers who try to bullshit their way through issues they are not experienced in, rather than saying "I'm not sure..let me do some homework and come back to you on that one." I've been doing this for 35 years and there is still a ton of stuff that I'm not an expert on. When I don't know something I'll say it. And then I'll get busy getting the answer. Many times that means finding someone who is an expert on a particular issue and picking his or her brain and getting the right answer."
04:04 PM on 10/07/13
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Hi Steve,

I'm in a a hardcore band out of the midwest. We've been trying to prioritize the most important types of people to have around us with the limited money that we have... What do you think is most important, hiring a manager or a publicist?
I think without a doubt the most important team member will be a great manager. If you get that one right the rest will tend to follow.
04:05 PM on 10/07/13
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hello sir. so i'm in the biggest local band in the world, Modern Chemistry. i was wondering how to be the biggest band overall in the world?
04:06 PM on 10/07/13
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Thanks Renman, I've been following your show since last year. I'm moving to LA next month with an aspiration to get into management. Do you have any extra advice you can give me? I'm currently reading up on management as much as I can before I move. I just wanted to find 1 band to focus on and go from there.
04:06 PM on 10/07/13
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Steve, thanks for doing this. As a young, aspiring manager, it's a great opportunity to pick your brain. I've got some questions for you:

1. What is a common pitfall you see in young managers?
2. For someone looking to break into the management end, with so many artists to choose from, do you suggest sticking with 1 all the way through, or working with several and hoping one pans out?
3. Thoughts on the EDM bubble? Is it going to just keep growing or will it burst soon?
4. I know what "Fuck The Gatekeepers" means, but for those that don't care to explain?

Thanks!
I've worked with a number of artists at the same time earlier in my career. I believed in all of them but none of them became big successful artists with long careers. I've only managed Incubus for the last 15 years and resisted the temptation to add a bunch of acts to my 'roster'. I think that some of the success we've had with Incubus could reasonably be atrributed to the fact that I had only them to focus on.
04:07 PM on 10/07/13
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I've worked with a number of artists at the same time earlier in my career. I believed in all of them but none of them became big successful artists with long careers. I've only managed Incubus for the last 15 years and resisted the temptation to add a bunch of acts to my 'roster'. I think that some of the success we've had with Incubus could reasonably be atrributed to the fact that I had only them to focus on.
Awesome. Thank you!
04:09 PM on 10/07/13
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hello sir. so i'm in the biggest local band in the world, Modern Chemistry. i was wondering how to be the biggest band overall in the world?
Keep doing all the things you did to become the biggest local band in the world but start thinking bigger. Get out of your local area and be the biggest band in your state, then region, and then country. You'll need some help so look for key team members like a manager who has national/intrnational experience. Tell your local story to people outside your local area.
04:13 PM on 10/07/13
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I've worked with a number of artists at the same time earlier in my career. I believed in all of them but none of them became big successful artists with long careers. I've only managed Incubus for the last 15 years and resisted the temptation to add a bunch of acts to my 'roster'. I think that some of the success we've had with Incubus could reasonably be atrributed to the fact that I had only them to focus on.
FUCK THE GATEKEEPERS is the battle cry for the doers in the world. FTGK says I'm doing this no matter how many NO's I hear. FTGK says I will find ways around the obstacles I face. FTGK says I will decide to have a great attitude and focus on the wins. FTGK says I'm more in love with winning than I hate losing. Everybody who did something great in their life had moments of fear, insecurity, and anxiety where it would have been easier to quit. But they did not. FTGK I'm doing this has to be your battle cry.
04:15 PM on 10/07/13
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Thanks Renman, I've been following your show since last year. I'm moving to LA next month with an aspiration to get into management. Do you have any extra advice you can give me? I'm currently reading up on management as much as I can before I move. I just wanted to find 1 band to focus on and go from there.
You should have looked at every clip on Renman MB with managers that are doing it. Everybody has a different story of how they overcame obstacles. A manager's main gig is to overcome adversity and inspire confidence in their artists. Here is a link to a managers playlist.
http://www.renmanmb.com/search/results?keywords=manager
04:17 PM on 10/07/13
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Thanks Renman, I've been following your show since last year. I'm moving to LA next month with an aspiration to get into management. Do you have any extra advice you can give me? I'm currently reading up on management as much as I can before I move. I just wanted to find 1 band to focus on and go from there.
Finding one great band and starting there is a great idea. Its very easy to do the old 'throw shit on the wall' approach but its not the best idea imo.
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